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Bluestar

Yes Fr is a beautiful language - the sounds are tre bien.

I asked my kid to take Basic Fr (i.e. Fr as 3rd language) instead of Jap, and if and when I take him to Europe I will have a guide !

kaifu

I think your kids' family background is quite unique and definitely more global.  Given this kind of background, I guess schools like TSL or SMC are likely to rate their candidacy highly.  And they also speak fluent French, I am not sure if the French stream students can do that when they started at P1 in TSL or SMC.   
I was just offering my views from a local perspective.  For our kids, whether we like it or not, learning Chinese is almost a must here.    The reason I mentioned about secondary schools to you is that if you do intend to have your kids go to local secondary schools, you really should plan carefully for their primary education.  This is particularly important if they go to a school like TSL which does not have a secondary section.  There are probably a few good local schools providing French as one of the major language subjects.  In order to get into those fine schools kids need to perform very well academically plus achievements in extracurricular activities.  For most above-aveage and average-performing students, they will be allocated by the government to different local schools based on their primary school results.  Most local secondary schools offer Chinese and English as the mandatory language subjects.  If your kids happen to be allocated to those schools, their chinese language training at TSL may not be enough for them to catch up with the regular chinese curriculum.  It may be too late if you realize abou this a few years later.  Certainly you can always send them to international schools to avoid this problem.  
Please don't get me wrong.  I was not trying to look down on the status of the French language, but there are really not many well-qualified French teachers in local schools.    Hey perhaps you and your wife should apply for teaching positions in French there!  
If you like to talk more about these issues you may leave me your email address in my private message box at babykingdom.  

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 08-11-7 17:39 發表
as for the 2nd part of thinking.
french background is important to our children but we also understand the geographic status. we think our children my at least finished secondary school in hong kong. ...

angelprincess

Hey, Florstangraphy,

Don't be so worry!  You still have time to consider your children's primary school.  May be I can drop down a note and ask my daughter to pass it to her French classmates to see if their parents can give some comments to you about your concerns.  I'll inform you once I received any feedback.

I had French lesson tonight, it's really tres difficile, but I'll try my best.

I had went to Quebec 2 years ago, most of the people speaks French, it's a beautiful place, hope I can go there again and speak French with the people there.

flostangraphy

Bluestar,
it's a good plan!!!

原帖由 Bluestar 於 7/11/2008 17:53 發表
Yes Fr is a beautiful language - the sounds are tre bien.

I asked my kid to take Basic Fr (i.e. Fr as 3rd language) instead of Jap, and if and when I take him to Europe I will have a guide !

...

flostangraphy

hello kaifu,
please don't get my reply wrong, i didn't feel offended by your post. and i'm glad that i could have vary different opinions and advise from different point of view!
i'm happy i can actually meet parents here and share experiences and know-how about education.
thanks again for your contribution!

secondary school is a bit fuzzy for me at thin moment, but i think you are right that i may have to look a little about the banding as well.
do you have the banding list of secondary schools in hong kong?!
we are most likely want our son go to an english secondary school as well.

it's funny because camoes already asked my wife about french native teacher on the opening day.
but my wife is already a full time employee, and to be honest, i hardly see her as a teacher....

however, we go to the french catholic community once a while, if we noticed friends of ours are interested, we will forward the contact.
please check PM.

kaifu, really nice to meet you!
see you later!
stanley (father of Camill and Maxence)

原帖由 kaifu 於 7/11/2008 23:18 發表
I think your kids' family background is quite unique and definitely more global.  Given this kind of background, I guess schools like TSL or SMC are likely to rate their candidacy highly.  And they al ...

flostangraphy

angel princess,
thank you very much!!
you are still awake at mid night!!!

原帖由 angelprincess 於 8/11/2008 00:40 發表
Hey, Florstangraphy,

Don't be so worry!  You still have time to consider your children's primary school.  May be I can drop down a note and ask my daughter to pass it to her French classmates to see  ...

DaddyCool

Hi there, may I also share my experience with you.

I think your kids should apply for Non-Chinese students since they already speaks French. The Chinese standard of NCS in TSL is similar to other int'l schools, of cos you cannot compare with normal school but if language is mainly for communication, you dun really need your kids could write Chinese poem........

Self-confident is the key for interview in TSL, so tell your kids to be proud of himself/herself and good luck.

flostangraphy

hello daddy cool!
you are also father of kid in TSL?!
thanks a lot for your advise!
we are going to visit Diosecan in January and Camoes in May 2009 to know more about french stream schools.
hope that Camill will have chance go into a school which he will be happy.

thanks again for sharing your advise!!!!

DaddyCool

Bonjour! Yes, my daughter is studying in TSL since last year as Non-Chinese student as we were moving back from Australia.

Diosecan is a much reputated school with very strong academic background, me myself would be too happy if my kid could get into this school, but definately my duaghter will feel opposite cos Camoes is a much happier school.

flostangraphy

Bonjour papacool,
nice to chat with you!
i do agree with you, i have called both camoes and diocesan schools for information about the school open day.... and i have to say that i got 2 completely different attitude....
the person from camoes was very friendly and servable! she has answered as much as she knows and ask me to leave my phone number if she get more infos, will call me back.
i was thinking that she was just polite to ask so... and 2 months or 3 months after, she really called back and let me know the updated open day date!!
i was impressed!!
at the end, we missed the open day of diocesan and only go to camoes one.
my wife sure appreciated to talk with the french teacher.
the feeling we have was very positive. we know that diocesan has more than 1 french native teachers, that's very good for a good accent.
the teacher we have talked with in camoes does have an asian french accent ( i do myself, even though i speak french everyday...) but we also saw that the teachers were very close to the pupils and pupils were happy with the teacher, pupils were also brave and confident to speak in french!! that is a very good point! and their writing were good.

flostangraphy

國際校學生轉津校重讀
經濟差未雨綢繆年省9萬學費

【明報專訊】2009年度小一自行分配學位昨日放榜，約半數學生獲派心儀小學。金融海嘯陰霾下，有家長為經濟環境惡化未雨綢繆，放棄女兒9萬元學費的國際學校小一學籍，轉報本地學費全免的傳統官津名校重讀小一，當獲知女兒獲取錄後，「開心過中六合彩」。另有家長考慮到國際學校學費高昂，不讓兒子由國際學校幼稚園直升小學，改報官津小學。

小一自行收生半數學生獲派位

4萬多名參加自行派位的準小一學生昨日獲知自行分配學位結果，不少家長昨早8時許紛紛到報讀的學校查看結果。商人張先生看到女兒名字在瑪利諾修院學校(小學部)的取錄名冊上，興奮得跳起來，「好開心，開心到跳起，開心過中六合彩！」張先生的女兒正就讀京斯敦國際學校小一，每年學費9萬元，雖然金融海嘯影響「未殺到埋身」，但他覺得官津學校免學費，而且雜費開支遠遠低於國際學校，加上太太是瑪利諾修院學校的校友，決定博一博替女兒報考。

小班教學明年正式推行，名校學額因而大減。張先生說，雖然太太是校友，女兒本理應有足夠分數獲取錄，但始終擔心學額減少而影響取錄機會，「申請人夠分或同分便需要抽籤」。

他於放榜前一晚擔心得整晚失眠，知道女兒獲取錄後鬆一口氣，回家與太太和女兒慶祝。

憂難銜接港教育制度

共有90個自行分配小一學額的喇沙小學，今年收到806份申請表，平均約9個人爭一個學額。昨早未到9時已在學校門口查看派位結果的羅太，得知兒子未獲取錄後不感失望，她說報考喇沙純粹「博一博」，兒子已獲直資的英華小學取錄。

經濟環境未見明朗，羅太已早作打算，兒子於耀中幼稚園就讀，但羅太無意安排他升讀國際學校小學，她坦言每年學費10萬多元，十分昂貴。

羅太續說，國際學校的教育制度無法銜接本地教育制度，萬一經濟轉差，可能負擔不起昂貴的國際學校學費，恐會影響兒子的升學前途，經考慮後決定安排兒子入讀學費每年萬多元的英華小學。

成功獲得自行分配學位的學生家長，須於11月26或27日於獲派小學的辦公時間前往辦理註冊手續。而未獲自行分配學位的家長，須於1月17或18日前往指定的統一派位中心，為子女辦理選校手續，接受統一派位。

flostangraphy

(星島日報報道)小一自行分配學位昨公布結果，金融海嘯下，部分年花約十萬元供子女入讀國際幼稚園的中產家長，擔心經濟困難會影響生計，寧放棄讓子女升讀名牌國際學校的機會，轉報津貼小學或學費較廉宜的直資小學。有從事生意的家長昨得悉女兒成功獲名津小取錄後歡喜若狂，笑言可節省一大筆學費，為步向低迷的生意幫一把。

　　今年四萬二千多名參加小一自行收生程序的學生，約兩萬多人成功獲派學位，成功率僅為四成九，創下七年來的新低。九龍城區名校喇沙小學由昨早八時起，陸續有家長前往觀看結果，經商的家長羅太的小兒子未獲取錄，「跨區都只是博彩，明知成功入讀的機會不大，所以已為兒子報讀兩所直資小學」。

其子就讀耀中國際幼稚園，每年學費高達十萬元之多，她坦言，隨近日發生金融海嘯，生意上亦有危機感，故她決定居安思危，讓兒子入讀學費較廉的直資學校，而不升讀耀中（小學部）。

同區另一所名校瑪利諾修院學校（小學部），下學年因每班人數由三十五降至三十人，小一學額大減廿五個，競爭加劇。從事漂牙機生意的張先生，得悉女兒獲取錄立即興奮得跳躍起來，並高呼：「好開心，開心到震！」其就讀九龍塘京斯敦國際幼稚園的女兒，原可升讀該校的小學部，但全年學費高達九萬元，令他因而卻步。他說：「金融海嘯對生意會有影響，現時（入讀津校）可以慳回一筆錢。」雖然該校沒有推行小班教學，但張先生表示不介意，認為女兒能入讀心儀的名校便可。

　　下學年全港近三百所小學將推行小班教學，令學額減少，包括地區名校中華基督教會基法小學（油塘）。陳太對孖女均只獲候補感到不滿，慨歎年前特地安排她們入讀基法幼稚園，更在第一天提交申請表格。她擔心兩名女兒會被拆散到不同學校，認為是小班影響入讀機會。她眼泛淚光說：「現在也不知要做甚麼。」

　　油尖旺區雖不用推小班，但名校油麻地天主教小學及油麻地天主教小學（海泓道），今年仍被「世襲位」佔去大多數學額，不少申請者均失望而回。其中油天小的「世襲位」共有五十二個，較去年增加近一成；而油天小（海泓道）則共有四十六個，比去年增加一個，兩校分別只有三十個學額取錄非世襲生。

　　油天小（海泓道）校長張志鴻更表示，由於今年自行派位多收了一名學生，所以在中央派位時會減少一個學額至七十四個。

DaddyCool

原來你識中文, 早 d 講啦, 免得我 d 英文笑死人

flostangraphy

識呀! 識睇,唔識打...
用手寫板我要寫成日都似.....

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 25/11/2008 17:38 發表
原來你識中文, 早 d 講啦, 免得我 d 英文笑死人

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flostangraphy

by the way, your daughter studies as non-chinese student, does it mean that she take french as 2nd language?!
does she like french!? how about her chinese?!
thanks in advance for sharing!!!

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 19/11/2008 10:38 發表
Bonjour! Yes, my daughter is studying in TSL since last year as Non-Chinese student as we were moving back from Australia.

Diosecan is a much reputated school with very strong academic background, me ...

DaddyCool

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 08-11-26 11:09 發表
by the way, your daughter studies as non-chinese student, does it mean that she take french as 2nd language?!
does she like french!? how about her chinese?!
thanks in advance for sharing!!!

是的, 我女兒是以 non-chinese 考入 TSL, 原因是當時我認為如果用 chinese student 身份考, 佢應該考唔入, 因為中文一定會好差(我們從外國回來, 她是插班生, 故中文會比同級差好遠), non-chinese 入學試唔需要考中文的.

由於是 non-chinese 關係, 佢要讀法文, 第一年(去年)插班三年級, 等於她會比同班同學少了兩年的基礎(我們又幫不了), 故此給她報了佐敦的法國文化協會的課程, 但整整一年下來進展不大, 可能因為一班有大約 20 人的關係, 每星期1.5小時實在幫不了多少, 好彩後來有人介紹一間補習社, 最多都係兩個學生一班, 故此近來看得到有進步, 起碼剛剛十月份測驗同平時默書都有80分左右(去年不合格), 連學校老師都話佢有進步.

有朋友問點解唔俾個女學中文, 其實我同學校商量過, 老師認為如果小女讀法文冇問題, 何必一定要轉, 免得中文追不上就兩頭唔到岸; 我亦都有同樣的想法, 反正我心目中九成九日後都係俾佢去外國讀大學, 故此中文水平比一般同級學生差都沒有什麼大問題.

佢現在很喜歡法文, 有時間都會時不時在網上學, 又成日要我同佢一齊溫書(其實想教我), 我跟佢學由 1-10 成年都搞唔掂, 年紀大, 冇計...........

總之一句講哂, 希望你可以搵到一間你們及子女都喜歡的學校, 我兩公婆及女兒都很喜歡TSL; 去年小女考到三間, 始終覺得入呢間冇錯!

angelprincess

Hi, Florstangraphy,

我都覺得我最叻嘅就係幫個女選擇咗呢間學校, 因為佢真係好鍾意呢間學校, 無論老師同同學, 佢都咁鍾意。我地做家長嘅都感受到佢地開心嘅心情, 其實我都好鍾意呢間學校, 因為我都見到我個女喺呢四年裏面進步咗好多, 無論係待人處事方面, 又或者學業成績方面, 都有明顯嘅進步。真係好多謝呢間學校同埋佢地嘅老師；亦都多謝佢地比一個咁愉快嘅學習環境比啲學生。

TINGMUM

DaddyCool,

你的決定好岩, 如你夾硬要個女做chinese student, 換回來的是: 小朋友對中文科很有錯敗感. 與其咁, 你比佢開開心心做一個non-chinese student更好!

DaddyCool

原帖由 TINGMUM 於 08-11-27 12:00 發表
DaddyCool,

你的決定好岩, 如你夾硬要個女做chinese student, 換回來的是: 小朋友對中文科很有錯敗感. 與其咁, 你比佢開開心心做一個non-chinese student更好!

多謝支持

flostangraphy

dear angelprincess, tingmum and daddy cool,
thanks a lot for you input!
me and my wife also feel the same way after we have visited camoes' open day.
knowing that your kids are learning french as well, i have talked with angelprincess before about making a pool of french videos we got at home, to exchange some english or chinese books or cartoons of yours for our sons.

i have selected some already... (sorry, i did take some time as i have got a bit stress and busy at work recently...)

but i will keep scan the french films we have to share with you. however, i have think that it may have a problem as our sons are still much younger than yours... so the type of film may not be very interesting for you....
anyway, i try to tell you what we have and you tell me which one you interested in.

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