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作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-15 12:06     標題: RC (啟新)的校風如何?

本帖最後由 firepigcow 於 12-3-16 14:15 編輯

有無家長對於RC的校風有何comment?尤其係高小和中學部的學生。

ESF學生踢球,踢頭事件令我對於他們的品行有點concern.

thanks

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以下是於16/3 下午1:55pm新加的

我的concern是因為:
1. 當日ESF教練的即時反應。
2. 事後ESF Admin 的處理方式。
都會對小朋友發出一定的信息。

我很想知道RC十多歲小朋友的情況。如有RC高小或初中的家長,可以分享一下嗎?

作者: Mighty    時間: 12-3-15 12:21

首先我申明我不是RC家長、不過覚得足球事件同RC校風、有何関係??? 最近有LA SALLE 事件、是否全学校就危険、不要上学。
作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-15 15:03

Mighty 發表於 12-3-15 12:21
首先我申明我不是RC家長、不過覚得足球事件同RC校風、有何関係??? 最近有LA SALLE 事件、是否全学校 ...
非直接有關,但會產生聯想。未知這是個別事件或整體ESF的教育問題。我非常希望是前者。

作者: Radiomama    時間: 12-3-15 16:13

我覺得是個別事件。

我仔仔在RC讀小三,人品不錯! (講笑)

我寫左個blog講阿仔,可參考啦!

http://blog.yahoo.com/radiomama/articles/page/1
作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-15 16:33

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Radiomama 你好,

我都一直有看你的Blog. 知道你曾經為兒子報讀直資學校,最後還是選RC。你在Blog裡面的描述,令我對RC了解了很多。也非常贊同RC教育方法。很多謝你的分享。

但有一點我還沒完全看清楚的是‘德育’的教導。尤其小朋友到了10多歲的時候,多年來學校和家庭對他在‘德育’的教導會在他平時生活中表現出來。

因此,我很想知道RC初中學生時的表現。如有家長可以經常去RC,可能可以觀察到。

謝謝。




作者: madscientist    時間: 12-3-15 20:08     標題: 引用:回復+Radiomama+的帖子 Radiomama+你好,我

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作者: Radiomama    時間: 12-3-15 21:07     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+firepigcow+於+12-03-15+發表

原帖由 madscientist 於 12-03-15 發表
家庭影響德育可能更多。
Agree no more! 德育的第一環是父母,家庭,然後才是學校。
RC好重視house spirit, recently my boy keeps talking about sportsmanship! 這個對小學生好重要,要學懂輸、要輸得起。
至於德育,我想在learner profile 之中包含了一部分,但如humble, gentle 等則較少提到。
中學生的情況不了解,有好好的、也有好hea的,留待其他家長補充了。




作者: iseult    時間: 12-3-16 01:58

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作者: Mighty    時間: 12-3-16 10:01

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我覚得你用詞太HUMBLE了、這件個別事件、怎会拉到去RC的校風、我是百思不得其解。 現今家長是否太過有羊群心理。
作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-16 11:13

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Hi iseult,

Thank you for your response and sharing your opinion. Your words are not offending. Instead, it is objective.

As I stated in the first sentence, I am asking question, not making any conclusion or criticize. Since I don't have any chance to meet these teenage kids in RC, I like to ask the parents in RC for sharing their experience and observation. (See 5# above that I chat with another parent.)

100% agree.

I have concerns (as in 1#) are because of:

1) The immediate reaction of the ESF coach when the incident happen
2) the response from ESF admin in the next day.

So, what signal does ESF deliver to the kids on this matter?  

Quote your words as shown below, it is what I am thinking too.
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.....  Just want to emphasize sometimes it's not the events/incidents that matters, it's HOW we perceive and act towards it that matters.  and it definitely affects the ways our kids views the world and how critical they can be.  cos we are their models to follow.....
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Of course, the later letter/email sent to ESF Parents is much better. It shows the positive attitude of ESF towards the incident.

Again, I am here asking question about sharing of observation and experience, not criticizing RC. I believed that single incident does not conclude the whole ESF schools. The supporting points of good theory are the facts. Observation and experience are the facts that can support my view.


作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-16 11:23

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非常贊同 “德育的第一環是父母,家庭,然後才是學校”。養不教,父之過。

"學懂輸、要輸得起。" 對整個人生都有影響。RC能灌輸這種觀念給小朋友,非常欣慰。

作者: w2b    時間: 12-3-16 12:09

本帖最後由 w2b 於 12-3-16 12:10 編輯

其實樓主你開呢個想要個muc 答案呢? RC is independent ESF school, 同件事有muc relevance 呢?! 等如去開個 post 問DBS 校風如何 but 個content 就講踢人事件令你好concern........
作者: acdad    時間: 12-3-16 12:42

本帖最後由 acdad 於 12-3-16 13:33 編輯

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我都係 RC 家長,有兩個小孩分別讀 PYP 同 MYP, 讀 MYP 的大女由於性格單純開朗,身邊有很多朋友,男的女的,有時星期五放早或者做完義工,都會上我家裡玩下傾下計,觀察所見,個個都很有禮貌,只是覺得有些男孩比較文靜單純罷了,有時聽大女講同學之間嘅問題,不外乎係 High school musical 边個想孤立边個果種, 至於有個別學生嘅行為問題,學校都能夠即時處理,唔會縱容。

另外由於大女玩球類校隊四年,我有好多机會接觸當教練的老師同觀察其他不同組別的學生,我覺得大家比賽時都是沒有太大壓力的,反而當 RC 校隊参与本地學界比賽時,我會覺得比較緊張輸贏的一定不是 RC 那方, 因為 RC 管理層都係抱着比樣團體運動學生参与,體會一下嘅心態, 輸咗冇所謂,驘咗就報導下兩句咁。

你話有冇專登教德育呢科我又唔覺有,不過課程設計係圍繞 IB learner profile 裡面嘅元素, 其他嘅要看個別家庭了。

不過有個帶隊经驗值得一提,有些人認為双方响實力差太遠情況下比對方大炒係勝方冇體育精神,我當然唔同意,認為打好每一分才是對對手的尊重,就算贏梗都冇理由唔全力策騎,不過真係比負方黑面咗成個賽事, 如果個教練係請返來專教人果種運動,真係可能打爛咗人飯碗,点收每個人$200/hour。


作者: firepigcow    時間: 12-3-16 13:51

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w2b, Sorry, 我的concern在開始時沒說清楚。踢頭事件引起的concern 是 (如上文 #10):

1) The immediate reaction of the ESF coach when the incident happen
2) the response from ESF admin in the next day.

以上兩點有關教育和態度的問題。

至於你的問題 “其實樓主你開呢個想要個muc 答案呢?”,我確實沒有一個肯定的答案。正如我其他Posts所說,想請各位家長分享在RC的觀察與經驗。

如家長 Radiomama,madscientist, iseult, acdad 都有很建設性的討論與分享。













作者: 琬晴B    時間: 12-3-16 15:53

我有兩個小朋友就讀RC. 囡囡讀Year 3,囝囝讀Year 1.

囝囝在開學初期, 曾試過打人. Class Teacher即日以電郵通知我們, 囝囝在校”hit, bite, scratch”其他學生, 而副校長、Class Teacher 及EA亦在當日”召見”囝囝, 表示這種行為是inappropriate.

Class Teacher其後約見我們, 告訴我們RC對於這類情況, 所提供的支援. 囝囝在學校的安排下, 每星期進行一次Play Therapy(在校, 單對單進行), 另外在Lunchtime亦有一些改善Social Skills的小組活動, 俾囝囝參加.

在約見時, Class Teacher 亦強調, 學校希望囝囝的行為問題, 越早更治越好, 以免影響學習進度, 亦以免拖到高年級時, 變成不受歡迎人物.

我覺得RC對於我囝囝這類”問題學生”的支援是足夠的. 觀乎近期的情況, 囝囝在控制情緒方面, 進步不少.

講到校風問題, 囝囝搭校車時, 從車上Year 5的外籍學生學會了F-Word. 他回家後, 說了幾次. 每次我都跟他說, 這句話是粗話, 無論如何不能說. 最近已沒有聽見他再說了. 現今世代, 作為父母, 很難不讓小朋友接觸”病毒”, 極其量只能在家提供多些”抗體”、”補充劑”, 提高小朋友的”免疫力”.
作者: Mighty    時間: 12-3-16 16:19

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我同W2B的想法一様、題目若是「RC校風如何?」一様有好多有心RC PARENTS答GA LA.  総知就無理由用{FOOTBALL INCIDENCE}.
作者: iseult    時間: 12-3-16 16:41

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作者: eneresnat    時間: 12-3-19 10:42

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請問RC有沒有欺凌問題? 我知道每間學校都有個別學生有此行為, 但請問RC在此方面的教育怎樣? 因為我仔仔有遺傳病, 骨骼生長有問題, 個子非常矮小, 我很希望他將來可以讀RC, 但也想知道裡面的老師及學生是否能接受身體有缺陷的同學。THX.

作者: Annie123    時間: 12-3-19 13:57

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作者: eneresnat    時間: 12-3-19 14:38

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謝謝你, Annie123! 聽到你這樣說 (囡囡親身經驗), 我也比較有信心。自己一直認為國際學校的老師對special needs的小朋友會比較包容和愛護, 但亦有朋友說國際學校的欺凌更嚴重, 有時真不知應該怎樣想。我並不期望別人會特別照顧我的仔仔, 只希望他不會因為受到很嚴重的欺凌而不喜歡上學。
作者: BeBeMa1012    時間: 12-3-19 18:03

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作者: acdad    時間: 12-3-19 20:46

本帖最後由 acdad 於 12-3-19 20:47 編輯

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兩星期前到机場送大女机,成班 中學同學中有位個子如小學生的男生正和一群有六呎以上的男生興高采烈地談話,問大女他們真是同一年級的,他們還跟我們開玩笑說他是神童跳班, 大家都不當一會事, 只是我們家長大驚小怪罷了!

不過個人認為那小孩本身性格很重要,家長遇到自己孩子疑似被別人欺凌時的反應也很重要,反應過敏,有時會弄巧反拙的。

作者: TINGMUM    時間: 12-3-19 21:25

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在大圍KCR STATION 經常會看見RC學生, 似乎PRIMARY SECTION比較斯文, 而約是Y 11或以上的學生, 如是一群或幾個, 好多次見到都在大聲叫嚷或拉扯, 影響他人. 是否學校對高FORM的學生行為沒有提醒而比較放鬆呢?每次我所見只是個別例子嗎?

作者: eneresnat    時間: 12-3-20 09:56

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Thanks, acdad. I believe the boy you mentioned has similar condition with my son. I hope my son will be fortunate enough to have a group of classmates who are willing to accept and love him. We'll try our best to teach him how to manage questions on his physical appearance and try not to over-protect him.
Thanks for sharing what you saw. That's very encouraging.

作者: acdad    時間: 12-3-20 12:06

本帖最後由 acdad 於 12-3-20 12:08 編輯
TINGMUM 發表於 12-3-19 21:25
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在大圍KCR STATION 經常會看見RC學生, 似乎PRIMARY SECTION比較斯文, 而約是Y 11或以上 ...

呢個我都有同感,如果學校同家長都可以提点下應該會好些,以免影响其他人, 不過呢班細路都真係幾單純,同我地一般所講嘅問題學生所做嘅其實相差好遠。
作者: TINGMUM    時間: 12-3-20 17:08

學生放學興奮總是難免, 相信少少的改善, 對個別學生本身或途人都是好事. 當然見不少RC學生放學拿著厚厚的中文書或英文書閱讀, 亦甚為欣賞.
作者: Fatrara    時間: 12-3-23 16:41

My son does not go to RC, he goes to another ESF primary school.  I have friends whose kids go to RC and I think RC is an excellent school.  But by and large, the different ESF school education models are quite similar, I think.

I personally think linking the Football incident to generalize all International
Schools (or in particular, ESF schools) that they don't do character building with the kids is such a myth.   

In my son's class, their are kids who have some disabilities.  The teachers are caring and would teach according to their individual progress.  My kid has the chance to learn to interact with kids who are different from him from a small age - different race, different physical conditions, different learning capabilities, etc.

The school also pairs up the senior kids with the junior kids.  My son is in Y1 and he has a big brother buddy in Yr, 5.  They would meet regularly, the older kid would teach the younger kid to read, and learn how to take care of the younger kids.

The school also encourages parents to go help.  My wife goes there as a helper once a week.  I know other parents who go twice and even 3 times a week.  I go occasionally.   You get a chance to observe how they teach the kids.  

There are always some more aggressive kids in every school.  Just now, I was doing helping at the school this morning.  During recess in the playground, another kid jumped the line to take the turn in playing with one of the playground facilities.   And he sort of pushed my kid.  My kid did not say anything.  I did not say anything.   I think it is a minor incident, but tonight, I would talk to my kid about this, and to listen to him what he thinks.  Right now, I guess he needs to learn how to stand up for himself, instead of relying on Mommy and Daddy to fight for him.  

Anyway, me and my wife have at times wonder if it is a right choice to send our kid to a ESF school (the only International school we can afford).  So far, however, I am very happy with our kid's development at the school (except Chinese)  There are a lot of things ESF has not done so well, and can improve, but at least they provide an alternative to those who cannot benefit from the learning methods in local schools.   And make no mistakes, from what I have observed, they also try their best to build ethical standards, and characters into the kids.  I have relatives whose kids have gone through ESF schools and are now in senior high schools and universities.  They are upstanding students, and so well behaved that they make their parents proud.  

One last thing, RC is only the very very few schools in HK that have obtained all the PYP, MYP, and DP of the IB qualifications.  The other twos are Canadian International School, and Victoria Academy.    I think one should feel thankful if his/her kid gets a place at RC.
作者: madscientist    時間: 12-3-24 11:24     標題: 引用:My+son+does+not+go+to+RC,+he+goes+to+ano

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作者: superying    時間: 12-4-17 19:40     標題: 回覆:madscientist 的帖子

Which one is DC?




作者: caramom    時間: 12-4-17 21:40

superying 發表於 12-4-17 19:40
Which one is DC?

Discovery College, also one of the private independent schools of ESF.
作者: Christi    時間: 12-4-17 23:37

其實樓主都只係想問問RC校風而已,佢提到ESF事件,大家又何須太大反應? 佢都講明係持開放態度去問呢條問題的了.


作者: Alnita    時間: 12-4-18 21:08     標題: 回覆:Fatrara 的帖子

May I know which ESF school your kid is in? It sounds the environment is quite caring.




作者: careysum    時間: 12-4-25 08:09

教育及培養小朋友既品格,最大責任,我諗應該係父母,責無旁貸
作者: iseult    時間: 12-4-30 17:42

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