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標題: 老師去左邊？自學等如自強不息？奮鬥只可靠互聯網？ [打印本頁]

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-21 08:18 標題: 老師去左邊？自學等如自強不息？奮鬥只可靠互聯網？

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-5-21 08:24 編輯

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有些事，不吐不快！希望大家唔好介意，實在有點生氣。

我小朋友係英國政府學校上中學，佢既physics 老師由二月中重病不能返學校，因為佢病得幾重，無人知佢幾時可以返嚟，於是佢果班就只有代課老師，我唔知大家覺得乜野係代課老師，但係呢度，佢只係一個可有可無既人，唔須要教任何課程，佢只係睇住D學生，學生自己自修。佢除左點名之外，甚至唔需要講任何一句說話。

咁既無老師既情況維持到今個星期中，佢先返嚟，佢因為大病初癒，所以佢要慢慢適應返回歸老師既剛位。

錯也不在佢，佢始終真係病重，但三個月無左 physics 老師，對學生既影響係非常大。

學校叫學生們上網自學，去D唔同網站，YouTube 等自學！自己睇 textbook 學。

天呀！佢一直係 YouTube 揾野自學。year 10 physics 2大個 chapters 叫你自學，無堂上，無老師的。我真係難以形容我既驚訝！

上2個星期，校長 send 左一封給家長既信，英式政治腔。首先感謝家長們體諒。。。又讚歎學生們自學好叻。。。。總結就係，雖然無左老師咁耐，家長好叻！學生好叻！學校亦好盡力配合。一齊俾掌聲大家！

上星期學校嘗試借隔離班個 physics 老師過來幫手上2堂課，更加嚇死人，果位老師原意係幫手run 一個 revision lesson, 因為佢地今個星期有個 physics test.

果位老師於是開始講，問佢地識唔識呢樣、果樣咁，佢地話唔識。於是老師話，嘩！原來你地乜都唔識，我得2堂 revision 無可能從頭教過，我只可以係D questions 搵你地己經識既嚟做下！

聽日佢就 physics test, 考果D佢自學既 chapter, 我女溫書溫到半夜一點先瞓。見佢都好失落。聽朝早會時再溫下。

不停話其實自己應該再早D上網自學得好D，加睇多D網上既 practice exam questions, 都怪自己時間預計得唔好。佢話 technically 自學係可以的。(吓咁都得！)

我係旁邊見到成件事，真係幾嬲！

香港既家長會問我，你咁嬲，點解唔投訴呀？第一，無其他家長投訴，學生係抱怨，但就係咁，第二，我自己都唔相信投訴有乜野用，學校可以簡單答我，請唔到短期暫代 physics 老師，會盡快恢復正常。。blah blah blah. 英國長期請唔夠 science teacher 係真既！唔集合到一推人一齊投訴的話，我一個人既不滿唔覺得有乜用！

又或者仲有人會認為不合理既事，就算得你一個人都要向學校反映！

情況係學校係知道，呢個係佢既處理方法，認同與否，只要佢係處理中，你只可以等。

其實同香港好唔同，可能發生係香港會係一件大事，但呢度無人有興趣理！嘈都無用。看其他更大既事件都係嘈都無謂。

除左人生安全我會全力去出聲 (我果次有不停投訴) ，其他既呢「憾事」，只有係到呻下，嗌下

感謝各位睇我既長篇大論，我純粹講事實分享。其實有好多好多野可以分享，不過唔知大家會唔會受不了。

作者: SIYip 時間: 24-5-21 08:42

我仔讀大學，教授要take care placement 學生，無時間上堂，所以佢地係上video lectures. 佢嗰間係知名大學。喺英國，咩都有可能。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-21 08:53

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-5-21 08:56 編輯

SIYip 發表於 24-5-21 08:42
我仔讀大學，教授要take care placement 學生，無時間上堂，所以佢地係上video lectures. 佢嗰間係知名大學 ...

真係感同身受，有 video lesson 都好，不過大學學費唔少錢！應該做好D！

我女係無 lesson, 佢自己揾 youtuber 既 video, 拼拼合合D topics 咁學，有D好D video, 有D又無咁好！要自己用好多時間揾。

同埋佢中學生，比較難D。始終細個D，不過而家都訓練到獨立學習。但真係幾影響一D唔太勤力既學生，佢地完全躺平

佢有D同學係無自己學，費事理，也唔 care. 自修堂大叫大笑。

作者: 大食媽咪 時間: 24-5-21 09:20

本帖最後由大食媽咪於 24-5-21 09:23 編輯

其實要學上網自學又真係學到既,而家網路太方便,海量資訊非常豐富。我女中學時(非英國)成日話學校老師廢教得差,上堂嘥時間情願自己返屋企上網學仲好。不過當然係要有自主學習既心態同埋夠自律先得，低年班就比較困難。學校理應係要提供教學係真,無辦法底下自學真係只係共度時艱既方法。學校安排得差係事實,如果嘗試安排其他班既老師過去幫手咁會對學生公平啲。

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-21 13:31

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-21 08:18
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本帖最後由 Poyau 於 24-5-21 13:32 編輯

學校請人睇堂平過代課
家長唔出聲拖到原本老師回歸就過關
媽事網見有人出聲學校揾隔離班老師
原校老師代課做多咗工作有加薪
情況可能係有老師願代課但學校唔想

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-21 21:15

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-21 08:18
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本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-21 23:04 編輯

投訴冇乜用，都係搵人長篇大論答下官腔，亦好難搵人圍爐，個度D人比較逆來順受，冇乜意慾改善處境。
經濟許可不如讀私校，收錢的應該會認真D。

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-21 21:19

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-21 08:53
真係感同身受，有 video lesson 都好，不過大學學費唔少錢！應該做好D！

我女係無 lesson, 佢自己揾 yout ...

Physics係咁多科之中比較難自學的，又係好多女仔弱科。

作者: Yanamami 時間: 24-5-21 23:05

經過Covid lockdown, 我就唔明点解唔可以zoom上課，又或者錄影隔離班老師授課，俾無老師果班“自學”，跟住隔離班做功課，然後代课老師改。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-22 01:13

Yanamami 發表於 24-5-21 23:05
經過Covid lockdown, 我就唔明点解唔可以zoom上課，又或者錄影隔離班老師授課，俾無老師果班“自學”，跟住 ...

病左果個老師可能有病假，唔會肯咁勤力上 zoom lessons, 應該係有薪病假。

講開英國D老師真係好多人不停咁病。唔知點解。

我都覺得隔離班老師可以幫到手，真係浪費資源，佢反正日日上堂，但隔離班又日日「放養」係課室。可能懶，學校費事理。佢地既所謂自修，其實好多人大聲叫大聲笑！

其實隔離班既 science 老師幾好的，好多年經驗，而且個人幾 kind. 我女早幾年都係佢果班。不過佢早兩年又係重病，果陣我女 year 8/9, 佢足足重病左大半年，當年有請一個實習老師代佢，雖然強差人意，但總算可以跟住進度。

果陣D學生仲傳話佢可能會死，返唔到嚟！真係好多人重病。一病幾個月至半年以上。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-22 01:23

964000 發表於 24-5-21 21:19
Physics係咁多科之中比較難自學的，又係好多女仔弱科。

係啦，佢而家非常唔鍾意呢科，聽到 physics 都反感！睇嚟唔會改變到！

自學理論果part 還可以，但計數果 part ，要自己睇明就真係好耐，而且一路睇一路憎呢科，真係越睇越煩。尤其是隔離班有老師，佢地無，更加對呢科無好感

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-22 02:01

Gov figures:
On a per-pupil basis the total funding to be allocated to schools for 5-16 year olds, in cash terms, in 2024-25 is £7,690

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-22 07:10

Yanamami 發表於 24-5-21 23:05
經過Covid lockdown, 我就唔明点解唔可以zoom上課，又或者錄影隔離班老師授課，俾無老師果班“自學”，跟住 ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-22 07:32 編輯

人地個邊請緊病假，絕對不會做野的，電話都唔會接，唔似香港人咁「盡責」

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-22 07:32

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-22 01:13
病左果個老師可能有病假，唔會肯咁勤力上 zoom lessons, 應該係有薪病假。

講開英國D老師真係好多人不停 ...

佢地唔興好似香港咁年年驗身，個文化又自細勁飲洒，好多都overweight

佢地D醫療都係主要睇GP, 有時都要攪到出哂症狀先refer，但又冇錢/唔方便睇私家，於是索性唔理/自己求其買藥食，可能咁所以未退休就一病就重病。

作者: katrinafu 時間: 24-5-22 08:23

香港好少少，但有時都會有差不多的事發生。
我女小學時香港讀官校，調咗個中學準備食肥雞餐老師過來教英文，每日上課讀一次就學生自修，老師上堂瞓教，上堂去埋後樓梯瞓覺。後來我發覺個女成日冇英文功課，又見準備測驗/考試都冇工作紙。個女先將老師問題講出嚟，我再問問其他家長，家長再問學生才得出此事，知道當然投訴，之後第二個學期換咗個代課老師，都係勁Hea , 頭兩個學期基本上無教書。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-22 16:06

katrinafu 發表於 24-5-22 08:23
香港好少少，但有時都會有差不多的事發生。
我女小學時香港讀官校，調咗個中學準備食肥雞餐老師過來教英 ...

呢D老師真係令人激氣，浪費孩子既黃金學習時間

作者: rubycourt 時間: 24-5-23 01:47

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-22 16:06
呢D老師真係令人激氣，浪費孩子既黃金學習時間

Pls check pm

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-23 14:35

katrinafu 發表於 24-5-22 08:23
香港好少少，但有時都會有差不多的事發生。
我女小學時香港讀官校，調咗個中學準備食肥雞餐老師過來教英 ...

所以咁多人出去補習係有原因

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-23 19:40

尋日我心情真係惡劣，搞緊一D野，進度慢到真係不進則退。又好多其他文件事，煩到爆！跟住又發生巴士情況，嚇一嚇！

放學時間我女突然打俾我話佢地一行5人等人打救！我血壓即時上升！佢話巴士走左，返唔到屋企，叫我即刻去學校接佢地五個人！我啱啱煑緊野，手忙腳亂！

背景係埠仔巴士服務係好疏落的，巴士只有一班，特別送學生放學，只係學校放學開一次。長期以來，用嘅學生係多于巴士嘅承載量。總有啲學生上唔到車因為巴士滿咗, 而要自己行路返屋企嘅,其實呢個巴士嘅旅程大約係15分鐘左右。

所以長期以嚟成為一種人推人同埋鬥快上巴士嘅競賽。你必須要喺放學時第一個箭步沖出去排隊,因為你排得快你就有機會上到巴士,如果你排到比較後嘅話,你嘅希望就好渺茫喇。如果你真係上唔到巴士就唯有行路返屋企, 但係巴士15分鐘嘅路程,估唔到行路就要行45分鐘. 有啲人其實住喺遠啲嘅地方甚至要行45分鐘再去另一個巴士站,然後再轉半個鐘去佢屋企，所以其實上唔到巴士對個細路嚟講個影響都好大,因為個時間真係好長。

尋日嘅情況已經唔係第一次, 因為巴士首先係接咗兩間學校先去佢間學校, 長期以嚟有人喺巴士上層不停掉嘢落嚟整蠱人,但係越嚟越過分,之前就掉石仔落你個頭度,喺巴士上層最頂嗰個氣窗到掉落嚟。

尋日離譜到調教咗一啲醋加埋辣椒, 辣椒粉嘅嘢,喺上面倒落嚟。我女個最好嘅朋友就中左招,成頭都係,佢好唔開心我個女冇中招,但係其實佢周圍嘅人都中咗, 所以人人都好唔開心,佢都好唔開心，跟住個巴士司機見到情況混亂,佢唔單止冇嘗試搵下邊一個人係罪魁禍首,佢仲大喝一聲話"玩夠未"，跟住個巴士司機頂唔順,佢竟然決定就噉閂埋個車門開車走! 但係要知道倒嘢落嚟嘅人, 根本就係佢架車上面。反而等緊上巴士嘅同學仔根本就冇做錯,但係佢竟然就咁閂門一走了之, 跟住所有嘅人就上唔到車, 佢哋就好勞氣問老師噉點算呀? 叫返佢返嚟先得架! 老師就話, "哦我冇辦法喇,佢走咗，噉你哋要自己安排交通喇。"

所以我個女就搵我, 然後叫我去救埋佢五個同學。跟住我同我女講, 就算我過到嚟, 都要一啲時間,我話你周圍問下有冇人可以幫手, 跟住佢哋啲同學, 周圍問人問下邊個屋企人住喺附近,又冇返工嘅,又肯嘅,可以過嚟,結果佢哋搵到一個, 跟住我女打返電話畀我話你唔使嚟喇, 而家有個阿媽肯過嚟, 其實根本架車坐唔到五個人,不過當時正所謂"救"得邊個就邊個, 因為其實學校附近係好靜嘅, 如果唔係放學或者返學時間其實嗰度人都唔多個, 側邊又有幾個好大公園, 所以如果一個女仔企喺度真係幾危險下。

巴士係上咗兩間學校先去我女間學校, 兩間學校一間係男校, 一間係男女校.

去到我女間學校(女校), 我問情況係有幾惡劣呢? 佢話好明顯地女性係唔夠男性打嘅, 所以推推撞撞嘅時候, 佢哋系完全唔得嘅, 去到嗰個位, 你又唔夠人高, 又唔夠人哋大隻.

其實坐巴士嘅問題一直都好嚴重, 學校甚至出過公開信, 同巴士公司, 同埋政府講, 但係結果都冇乜大改善, 第一就係講班次太少, 所以搞到學生要打交先上到巴士.

第二就係巴士司機嘅態度惡劣, 佢哋長期鬧人,有時候甚至用粗口鬧人，唔係淨係因為你曳, 所以鬧, 甚至對一啲好乖嘅學生, 都照鬧不停.

噉樣鬧可能因為佢自己做呢份工都好煩，成車都好似野獸噉, 佢要同班野獸困獸鬥, 所以佢自己都好激氣, 日日啲人你推我撞, 開車又驚車死你，有時候好難喎. 因為佢要閂門, 啲人又要擋住道門。你都可以諗到幾複雜!佢要閂門總有人希望用個身想嘗試按住道門，跟住佢又一定要閂門, 佢唯有大聲用粗口鬧你, 鬧到你放棄唔擋住道門,。

巴士裏面嘅人, 又大聲喧嘩吵鬧, 又有人喺車廂裏面掟礦泉水樽, 不停倒啲食物落地下。大聲嗌大聲叫嘅都唔少!

可能巴士司機長期對住呢啲細路, 又真係好激氣, 長期以嚟可能積壓太重，於是終於爆發就不停噉鬧啲學生!無論你乖定曳嘅, 上到車, 上唔到車嘅, 佢日日破口大駡! 但係嚟到我女學校係女校, 其實啲同學仔都比較乖, 但係個巴士司機照樣大聲呼喝, 大聲狂鬧!

啲細路有時俾佢鬧到喊, 有時上唔到車好唔開心, 好徬徨! 總之上巴士就好似一個野外競賽噉, 真係少啲心血都唔得。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-23 20:15

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-5-23 20:16 編輯

巴士嘅故事教訓我哋:

做人要---------> 有勇氣, 有計謀, 體格精奇, 有"力爭上車"嘅決心, 厚面皮, 唔怕俾人鬧

------> 有孤注一擲, "上唔到車心不死" 嘅決心。

終會成功在望。
達到"人見人愛,車見車載" 嘅境界

作者: TTEE1819 時間: 24-5-23 20:19

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-23 19:40
尋日我心情真係惡劣，搞緊一D野，進度慢到真係不進則退。又好多其他文件事，煩到爆！跟住又發生巴士情況， ...

多謝你好用心寫左好長嘅文，讓我們明白你們在英國生活或讀書情況。見到甘嘅事，相信我都會激到爆炸。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-23 20:22

TTEE1819 發表於 24-5-23 20:19
多謝你好用心寫左好長嘅文，讓我們明白你們在英國生活或讀書情況。見到甘嘅事，相信我都會激到爆炸。
...

Aww so kind, thanks!!!

作者: TTEE1819 時間: 24-5-23 20:24

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-23 20:15
巴士嘅故事教訓我哋:

做人要---------> 有勇氣, 有計謀, 體格精奇, 有"力爭上車"嘅決心, 厚面皮, 唔怕俾 ...

阿女讀緊中學已睇到d甘惡劣嘅情況（老師病左無人教書，巴士上質素非常差嘅學生攪事），相信佢會學到點生存，會學識和選擇做一個‘’正常‘’嘅人。

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-24 00:19

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-23 19:40
尋日我心情真係惡劣，搞緊一D野，進度慢到真係不進則退。又好多其他文件事，煩到爆！跟住又發生巴士情況， ...

太可怕，如何安心上學下課？
咁樣傷人唔可以報警？警察也不理？
既然車程不遠，你不如自己去車佢

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 03:14

警察人手有限，賊都唔夠人手去捉。呢D「小事」無人真正受傷，報警都唔會受理。

我問阿女佢同學中左招，有無好嬲，佢話無。佢話個女仔唔係 angry, 係 very depressed.

聽到咁突然間我覺得個女仔好可憐，我話 angry 都好過 depressed, 我女唔明，問我點解。

我話嬲都仲有度氣，仲有動力去嬲。depressed 係好憂鬱，放棄果種感覺！

可能我想多了，其實日日放學都係咁，可能己經唔識再嬲！

以前掉水樽，掉石仔，掉用完紙巾去你個頭度，而家 vinegar, chilli.

只可以講，惟有行路向上望，唔係向前望。

我其實都載佢返學的，可能放學以後都係車載返屋企比較好

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 03:26

佢個同學好乖的，成績好好，仲每日放學去屋企附近小學接細路放學返屋企，仲一路同細路傾計，返到屋企仲要睇住佢，半個阿媽咁，咁生性的！

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-24 08:01

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-24 03:14
警察人手有限，賊都唔夠人手去捉。呢D「小事」無人真正受傷，報警都唔會受理。

我問阿女佢同學中左招，有 ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-24 09:58 編輯

這個完全係欺凌行為，不應合理化，可以寫信去頑童的學校投訴，雖然最後都可能係冇改變

突然覺得香港有東張西望好好。
終於明白點解英國人點解好似對様様野都咁逆來順受，冇乜改善的慾望。

作者: 大食媽咪 時間: 24-5-24 09:54

掉石仔都唔理?! 分分鐘打死人架喎! 如果真係投訴晒做晒所有野都無用,真係情願自己接送放學好過。

作者: yuyueng 時間: 24-5-24 10:48

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-23 19:40
尋日我心情真係惡劣，搞緊一D野，進度慢到真係不進則退。又好多其他文件事，煩到爆！跟住又發生巴士情況， ...

學生要打交先上到巴士 >
就算我自己果個系男仔，都好難想像日日放學要甘樣。我記得自己中學時要搭巴士返學，因為系中途站得好少位但人唔少，幾十年前香港亦唔興排隊，所以每次我家姐就一個人頂住巴士門口先，然後我捐佢手臂上車，呢D真系童年陰影。

我系你就一定會自己接佢放學。

作者: Vana 時間: 24-5-24 12:17

964000 發表於 24-5-24 08:01
本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-24 09:58 編輯

這個完全係欺凌行為，不應合理化，可以寫信去頑童的學校投訴 ...

我朋友住個到因為校區好，多左好多hk 人，大家都想入既中學唔夠位，你知我地 hk 人最鍾意投訴

end up 投訴到去 council..... 最後學校有增加學額，仲上埋 BBC 地區新聞

後來有 d hk 人既 noise 仲厚面皮到話英國人應該多謝佢地，幫佢地爭取埋學額，成件事我覺得幾好笑

作者: Vana 時間: 24-5-24 12:25

SIYip 發表於 24-5-21 08:42
我仔讀大學，教授要take care placement 學生，無時間上堂，所以佢地係上video lectures. 佢嗰間係知名大學 ...

我朋友兩公婆都係英國知名大學做professor.... 其中一個仲係最 top 其中一間

佢地都話比起 hk 得閒左好多，其中一個半退休感覺日日打理花園研究煮食幾個月先返一次大學

全部仲係 online classes, 唔係咁熟我都唔信

另一個忙d, 要返大學, 但主要忙開會，佢成日都話唔明英國人咁鍾意開會.... 淨係講門面野都浪費左佢好多時間

作者: Vana 時間: 24-5-24 12:34

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-22 01:23
係啦，佢而家非常唔鍾意呢科，聽到 physics 都反感！睇嚟唔會改變到！

自學理論果part 還可以，但計數果 ...

咁真係影響深遠

好唔好彩

我兩個仔女之前都突然有主要科老師走（係hk, 一個名津，一個名直資），幸運地兩間學校都揾返退左休以前係到教既老師代課

我仔女話仲教得好過走左既老師

好仔細又好有心，好錫佢地.... 其中一個係非常老既外國人，教英文，佢 d 英文好好聽...用字又靚，係長氣d

所以佢地算好彩

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-24 16:27

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-23 19:40
尋日我心情真係惡劣，搞緊一D野，進度慢到真係不進則退。又好多其他文件事，煩到爆！跟住又發生巴士情況， ...

係男校/男女校啲學生咁做?
此兩校係 Grammar 定 Comp?
希望早日有解決辦法

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 17:18

yuyueng 發表於 24-5-24 10:48
學生要打交先上到巴士 >
就算我自己果個系男仔，都好難想像日日放學要甘樣。我記得自己中學時要搭巴士返學 ...

>我家姐就一個人頂住巴士門口先，然後我捐佢手臂上車

坦白講，除左童年陰影外，其實你地既策略真係幾叻喎！！

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 17:50

Vana 發表於 24-5-24 12:17
我朋友住個到因為校區好，多左好多hk 人，大家都想入既中學唔夠位，你知我地 hk 人最鍾意投訴 en ...

佢哋能夠成功爭取到加位, 又真係好勁喎。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 18:02

Poyau 發表於 24-5-24 16:27
係男校/男女校啲學生咁做?
此兩校係 Grammar 定 Comp?
希望早日有解決辦法

其實兩間學校嘅人都有, 其實冇人真係睇到係邊個做, 啲人其實唔識嘅, 望到佢都未必知佢個名, 同埋佢哋一堆人, 所以好難知道係邊個，就算你望到佢, 知道佢係邊個學校都唔會理.

因為女校都有幾個老師, 一齊企喺出面, 其實佢哋自己都親眼見到呢啲事, 根本呢啲事發生咗好多年, 都唔係第一日發生, 我諗如果要理都理嚟咗。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 18:15

其實英國人都好清楚學生嘅行為, 因爲我哋呢一區唔俾學生入去 KFX, MxDoxxxx
佢無寫明學生唔可以入去, 我相信根據法例咁樣亦都係唔可以嘅，但係每一次當有學生入去, 佢哋都會趕佢走嘅.

同佢講唔可以入嚟, 出返去.

我自己親眼見到係隔籬county，一次我去食嘢嘅時候, 嗰班學生度仲未做出任何舉動嘅時候, 就親眼見到佢趕班學生出去.

佢哋一行大約十幾人入嚟，保安即刻叫佢哋, 而家即刻出去! 冇俾原因點解佢唔可以入嚟.

我個女話佢有時候放學, 想同啲同學去mxdxxx買嘢食, 佢話嗰間唔比入, 學生唔入得嘅嘛.

我話有噉樣嘅咩?

上次佢同學去入想入Kxx度買嘢, 保安亦都直接叫佢, 你唔可以喺度買嘢啊. 你要出去門口, 仲要唔好企到正門口喎! 企門口側邊再過啲嗰度, 因為你企喺門口度, 嚇親人, 人哋唔敢入嚟!

好誇張!

跟住有日, 我無意度睇到新聞發, 現原來有啲家長寫信去 Mxdxxx 投訴話點解佢哋唔俾學生入去, 有冇搞錯!

嗰個公司回應話我哋公司歡迎任何人啊! 又話咩顧客服務為一, 講完一餐懵之後, 就話我哋從來冇話唔准學生入去!

嗰邊報導出咗之後一排, 我都有問我女, 你哋係咪入得去喇? 好似話而家佢話唔會唔俾你哋入去喎?

跟住我女話唔係啊，見到我哋, 趕我哋走啊!

佢哋嘅做法係衹要你著校服嘅話就叫你走。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-24 18:27

最近呢幾年, 我都唔清楚知道係幾時開始, 總係見到一個保安喺 mxdxxx門口
佢啲保安, 唔係好似香港嗰屋院嗰啲, 斯斯文文嗰啲.

佢啲保安企喺度, 全部都係好大隻啊, 同埋好似好打得嘅保安.
佢哋都係好"一視同仁", 衹要你著校服, 就叫你走. 就算好乖嗰啲. 總之見你著校服你就唔可以入去，無論你係曳定乖嘅都一樣。

其實真係講出嚟都冇人信, 喺香港我相信冇人聽過.

上次我同我女去mxdxxx食嘢, 我個女問我 "我入得嘅咩? 因爲我著住校服喎!"

跟住我都好驚訝話, "係喎! 係唔係唔入得吖??!! "

好搞笑!

可能有成人陪同, 佢就可以入啦! 我亦都成功帶咗佢入去!

不過其實我覺得好怪! 其實佢哋大左仲會唔會想入呢間嘢呢?

我個女話, 又唔會喎! 佢都明白喎! 有時候擔心學生搞事, 所以唔畀入去嗻。

怪唔得啲鋪頭唔怕趕啲學生走啦。

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-26 20:07

有冇諗過轉Grammar School或私校?

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-27 05:57

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-26 20:07
有冇諗過轉Grammar School或私校?

已經係 Grammar school.

其實呢幾年都只聽講好似三至四個女仔中途離開，要中學插班入 Grammar School 其實非常難。

Grammar School D 學生大多數幾勤力，同埋中產家庭多。

如果講學生質素確是唔錯

轉私校要等 Gcse 之後了

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-27 12:00

本帖最後由 TAIOU4 於 24-5-27 17:01 編輯

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-27 05:57
已經係 Grammar school.

其實呢幾年都只聽講好似三至四個女仔中途離開，要中學插班入 Grammar School 其 ...

咁真係冇計
另外2間冇乜理由係Grammar School
所以佢o地好僧/葡萄Grammar School...

不過如果代課老師都冇
真係連學校都明白...
讀到書o既學生成績自然好尼種咁神奇o既佛系思想

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-27 18:10

一間係 Grammar School, 一間唔係，其實我覺得係大部份既學生都係好乖，但即使如果只有 5% 係有行為問題已經好不得了

每間學校大約近一千人，三間有三千人係同一條街度，假設5%人係好離譜，已經係150 人，係好難控制，往往係乖的大多數俾少數搞事的人滋擾不甚！

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-27 18:18

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-27 12:00
咁真係冇計
另外2間冇乜理由係Grammar School
所以佢o地好僧/葡萄Grammar School...

其實講起 Grammar School, 試過好多次巴士司機鬧佢地女仔話，

"You think you Grammar School students are better? You are rubbish."

所以我話搭巴士好多abuse, from 搞事學生，同埋 angry bus driver.

我知道後，話想投訴巴士公司，但佢地D女仔同學同我講成日都係咁，有時有一兩個特別勞氣既司機 only, 我如果「咁少事」都去投訴，第日不單唔改善，可能仲鬧得多D，叫我唔須要太緊張，佢地慣晒，完全唔會理佢。

我真係唔知講乜好

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-27 18:37

其實可以講下 Grammar School 我識既學生，大多數確是幾乖，佢地會做齊功課，測驗前都會好認真溫習，如果測驗成績唔好會覺得好無面，好難過。會好緊張自己既學業同選科，唔會亂花錢，一個星期只花十至卄磅買野己經覺得自己好大駛。D野爛左有時會自已修理重用，見到我呢D家長，會打招呼，會唔介意同我傾下。唔講粗口，覺得講粗口完全唔 cool，早會前時間會自己 form study group 溫習功課。

我記得有個女仔，佢有一晚 distracted 去左睇 online shopping site 成晚，然後去左瞓覺，之後佢半夜三點突然醒左起身，話自己太內咎，浪費左成晚，要起身溫書到天光！佢半夜 WhatsApp D同學，真係三點幾，但其實第二日並無測驗之類！

有D學生真係好努力，好踏實，年青人有這樣的自律，我希望呢個女仔能順利達到做律師既夢想。

呢D係我所知既學生，有D曳既我無交流，所以唔知。

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-27 21:05

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-27 18:37
其實可以講下 Grammar School 我識既學生，大多數確是幾乖，佢地會做齊功課，測驗前都會好認真溫習，如果測 ...

尼個女仔o既case好似有D過份
有少少邪教Feel...
就算自己仔女玩多o左
寧願佢休息返多D
之後再補返好過

其實讀書唔難
不過有D人特別吸收
有D人用盡全力都唔夠人高分
根本唔係鬥用得多時間
最重要係搵到方法去平衡
娛樂都係非常重要
唔玩下點可以充夠電有心情做D辛苦o野

可以邊玩邊學當然最好啦

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-27 21:10

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-27 18:18
其實講起 Grammar School, 試過好多次巴士司機鬧佢地女仔話，

"You think you Grammar School students ...

尼幾個巴士佬絕對係高危
另外搞到班女仔有逆來順受o既性格都唔係好事
好似變o左畀人恰完畀人打完都當冇件事咁
如果你唔係太忙真係自己接返佢放學好過
最怕佢o地痴線起上尼有任何意外就後悔莫及

作者: sumikogurashi 時間: 24-5-28 15:44 標題: 回覆樓主：

本帖最後由 sumikogurashi 於 24-5-28 15:55 編輯

我都覺得個巴士司機有啲問題，其實GCSE 後轉校（私校）啦，去好啲嘅區，仔女長期受呢啲精神上嘅滋擾唔係鍛鍊，係精神虐待。

作者: sumikogurashi 時間: 24-5-28 15:53

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-27 21:10
尼幾個巴士佬絕對係高危
另外搞到班女仔有逆來順受o既性格都唔係好事
好似變o左畀人恰完畀人打完都當冇件事 ...

呢啲巴士仲點可以繼續搭下去，我都怕巴士司機有一日精神錯亂痴起上嚟釀成意外都唔知點算。逆來順受絕對唔係好事，同埋點解每日要咁樣擔驚受怕渡日，對孩子的心理亦不健康。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-28 21:02

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-5-28 21:18 編輯

係，其實都搵左好多選擇會在GCSE之後轉校，亦都安排揸車番學放學。

希望GCSE成績理想，可以入到心儀學校。

其實我唔知做巴士司機係有幾大壓力，感恩我唔係載學生既巴士司機。真係唔知我會點面對。日日同D青少年鬧嚟鬧去，年年日日如此。我真係可能懷疑人生，怕要EQ好高先得。

我以前見過D好好人既司機，亦見過精神失常不停鬧我既司機，可以好失控的。其實英國都好2極化，有幾好既人，但偶然遇上的癲人卻又不是一般的癲，係控制唔到自己，而且會動武果種癲，所以我見到有呢D人要快D走。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-28 21:13

早前阿女學校開始選 prefect, 有無私校既家長講下私校有無 prefect 呢樣野？又係點樣申請的？

學校今年五月接受申請，選中既 prefect 會下年
上任。

全級大約有1/3 學生申請，係自由報名，係申請既人裡面再選1/3 當選。唔知點解咁啱乜都係1/3！

我強烈建議大家如果有機會的話，都申請試下，據了解對將來申請 sixth form 或者寫 personal statement 時可以寫埋個 position 入去

作者: yuyueng 時間: 24-5-29 10:06

有能力就轉私校啦，只可以話GCSE課程系非常之淺，考試無8或9正常A Level好難跟得上。

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-29 12:43

本帖最後由 TAIOU4 於 24-5-29 12:45 編輯

yuyueng 發表於 24-5-29 10:06
有能力就轉私校啦，只可以話GCSE課程系非常之淺，考試無8或9正常A Level好難跟得上。 ...

GCSE Higher 都淺咩?
我真想知GCSE Higher同 IGCSE邊個深D
Thanks.

作者: yuyueng 時間: 24-5-29 13:47

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-29 12:43
GCSE Higher 都淺咩?
我真想知GCSE Higher同 IGCSE邊個深D
Thanks.

GCSE都覺得深既甘點考A
Level？

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-5-29 14:28

本帖最後由 TAIOU4 於 24-5-29 14:30 編輯

yuyueng 發表於 24-5-29 13:47
GCSE都覺得深既甘點考A
Level？

GCSE有分難度
我唔熟英國不過我諗唔會間間都Higher掛?

我係想拎尼同IGCSE比較下

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-5-29 14:43

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-29 12:43
GCSE Higher 都淺咩?
我真想知GCSE Higher同 IGCSE邊個深D
Thanks.

IGCSE有分（core同extended，唔係科科有分），GCSE應該冇分。
程度同A level爭天共地。

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-29 15:42

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-29 12:43
GCSE Higher 都淺咩?
我真想知GCSE Higher同 IGCSE邊個深D
Thanks.

(I)GCSE 部份科目有 Tier 例如 Maths
Higher 才可取 A*-B/9-6
Foundation 最高 C/5(Strong Pass)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/654b7da0b9068c000d0e756c/Entries_and_late_entries_for_GCSE_and_AS_and_A_level_2022_to_2023_academic_year.ods/preview

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/provisional-entries-for-gcse-as-and-a-level-summer-2023-exam-series/provisional-entries-for-gcse-as-and-a-level-summer-2023-exam-series

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-for-schools-and-colleges-2023/guide-for-schools-and-colleges-2023

Some GCSE subjects have different tiers of entry (foundation or higher). The subjects with tiers of entry are:

maths

combined science

physics

chemistry

biology

statistics

modern foreign languages

Where GCSEs are tiered, it is important that students are entered appropriately. Available grades are:

Foundation tier: 5 to 1 (5–5 to 1–1 in combined science)

Higher tier: 9 to 4 (9–9 to 4–4 on combined science) with a narrow ‘safety net’ grade 3 (4–3 in combined science) for those students who just miss grade 4 (or 4–4); higher tier students who do not achieve enough marks for that safety net grade will receive an unclassified result (U)

A student who is expected to achieve a grade 4 or grade 5 should be entered for foundation tier. A grade 4 or 5 achieved at foundation tier are the same as a grade 4 or 5 achieved at higher tier. Exam boards are required to make sure that it is no easier or more difficult to achieve a grade 4 or 5 on higher or foundation tier. There is nothing on certificates showing the tier of entry.

You need to make sure that all students are entered for the correct exams and, if the exam is tiered, at the correct tier. If you have any concerns or corrections contact the exam board as soon as possible.

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-29 16:40

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-28 21:13
早前阿女學校開始選 prefect, 有無私校既家長講下私校有無 prefect 呢樣野？又係點樣申請的？

學校今年五 ...

私校有 Prefect team 有 Head/Deputy
可自薦申請學校普遍挑選優異生擔任
AL公布常見 Head/Deputy 的成績去向

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-29 20:51

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-29 12:43
GCSE Higher 都淺咩?
我真想知GCSE Higher同 IGCSE邊個深D
Thanks.

GCSE 相當於當年會考
深淺難易視乎學生目標
例如 Maths 合格率低過文憑試及會考
取A摘星比例較文憑試及會考高

Mathematics
--------------------------------------------------------
GCSE || DSE 2023 | HKCEE 2010
--------------------------------------------------------
Aged 16 || DSC 40,584 | 81,851

A*/9 4.1% || 5** 1.44% | -
A*/8+ 11.7% || 5*+ 5.76% | A 3.80%
A/7+ 21.1% || 5+ 14.4% | B+ 12.8%
B/6 33.5% || 4+ 38.6% | C+ 30.6%
--------------------------------------------------------
C/5 52.4% || 3+ 58.2% | D+ 55.9%
C/4 72.3% || 2+ 82.2% | E+ 76.6%
--------------------------------------------------------
D/3 84.5% || - | -
E/2 92.8% || - | -
G/1+ 98.2% || 1+ 92.6% | F+ 91.9%
--------------------------------------------------------
U 1.8% || U 7.40% | U 8.13%

https://analytics.ofqual.gov.uk/apps/GCSE/Outcomes/

https://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/DocLibrary/HKDSE/Exam_Report/Examination_Statistics/dseexamstat23_5.pdf

https://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/DocLibrary/HKCEE/Release_of_Results/Exam_Report/Examination_Statistics/ceexamstat10_5.pdf

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 04:58

TAIOU4 發表於 24-5-29 14:28
GCSE有分難度
我唔熟英國不過我諗唔會間間都Higher掛?

我女間Grammar School 無得揀 foundation maths, 所以人人都係 higher maths.

有四班 triple science, 得一班 combines science

共考11科 gcse, 有好多係 compulsory, 有D optional 揀

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 05:04

其實我覺得問題唔係呢間學校既問題，相信政府學校缺乏$$，所以我認為如果係政府學校大致做法相近。

Grammar School 已經係政府學校中多 funding 既一羣，可能其他學校都係要睇餸食飯

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 05:08

我研究緊既私校，又少少擔心嚟緊既 Vat 情況，有無D學校肯 absorb 一大半vat?

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-31 06:23

Vana 發表於 24-5-24 12:25
我朋友兩公婆都係英國知名大學做professor.... 其中一個仲係最 top 其中一間

佢地都話比起 hk 得閒左好多 ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-31 10:55 編輯

而家仲全部online class

其實對自己都唔好
英國吹水開會係家常，講就天下無敵

自動打7折

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-31 06:26

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-27 18:10
一間係 Grammar School, 一間唔係，其實我覺得係大部份既學生都係好乖，但即使如果只有 5% 係有行為問題已 ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-31 10:56 編輯

雖然只是5%，但係佢地有問題的人”bold”好多，一係容忍一係遠離（入私校）。

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-31 06:28

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-27 18:18
其實講起 Grammar School, 試過好多次巴士司機鬧佢地女仔話，

"You think you Grammar School students ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-31 16:32 編輯

咁都得

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-5-31 07:13

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-28 21:13
早前阿女學校開始選 prefect, 有無私校既家長講下私校有無 prefect 呢樣野？又係點樣申請的？

學校今年五 ...

私校一定有prefect team，不過我接觸/了解嘅私校就唔係自薦申請嘅，係由學校安排委任嘅。

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-5-31 07:16

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 05:04
其實我覺得問題唔係呢間學校既問題，相信政府學校缺乏$$，所以我認為如果係政府學校大致做法相近。

Gramma ...

你講出咗其中一個重點，亦係點解我成日話香港家長心裡面憧憬嘅英式教育，其實只有私校先提供到...

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-5-31 07:25

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 05:08
我研究緊既私校，又少少擔心嚟緊既 Vat 情況，有無D學校肯 absorb 一大半vat?

部分學校有積極研究點樣claim返部分VAT，即係唔會20%全部轉嫁落學費到。亦有部分學校話如果做pay in advance，就可以避開VAT加價。

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-31 10:44

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 05:04
其實我覺得問題唔係呢間學校既問題，相信政府學校缺乏$$，所以我認為如果係政府學校大致做法相近。

Gramma ...

班巴士是給合資格學生還是額外提供?
前者 Council/學校應妥善安排
如無改善有無考慮找 Councillor/MP?

Free School Transport
https://www.gov.uk/free-school-transport

Children of compulsory school age qualify for free school transport if they go to their nearest suitable school and any of the following apply:

the school is more than 2 miles away and the child is under 8

the school is more than 3 miles away and the child is 8 or over

there’s no safe walking route between their home and school

they cannot walk there because of their special educational needs or disabilities or a mobility problem

If your child does not qualify for free school transport for these reasons, they may still qualify if you have a low family income.

Find out more about applying for free school transport from your local council.

If your child is 16 or over and still in education, ask your local council if they offer any help with transport.

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-5-31 11:06

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-22 02:01
Gov figures:
On a per-pupil basis the total funding to be allocated to schools for 5-16 year olds, i ...

每年£7,690 與香港差不多

直接資助計劃
實用資料
https://www.edb.gov.hk/tc/edu-system/primary-secondary/applicable-to-primary-secondary/direct-subsidy-scheme/useful-materials.html

直資中學可獲得的政府津貼
https://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment/tc/edu-system/primary-secondary/applicable-to-primary-secondary/direct-subsidy-scheme/index/ss-section_4.pdf

2023/24 學年預計直資單位津貼額
https://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment/tc/edu-system/primary-secondary/applicable-to-primary-secondary/direct-subsidy-scheme/index/dssrate_tc.pdf

辦學年期兩級制

二零二三至二四學年預計的直資單位津貼額

班級每名學生每年($)

中學(創校16年以下)
中一至中三 $73,402
中四至中六 $86,221

中學(創校16年或以上)
中一至中三 $75,672
中四至中六 $88,888

小學(創校16年以下)
小一至小六 $72,666

小學(創校16年或以上)
小一至小六 $75,694

註：直資單位津貼額將根據一個資助學額平均單位成本的改變而每年調整，其中包括因實施新措施引致的成本改變。

School funding Statistics
https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-funding-statistics

Headline facts and figures - 2023-24

The total amount of funding allocated to English schools for 5-16 year old pupils has grown since 2010-11 as the total pupil population has also grown.
In cash terms, the total funding allocated to schools through the grants covered in this report is £59.5 billion in 2024-25, an increase of 70% compared to the £35.0 billion allocated in 2010-11.

On a per-pupil basis the total funding allocated to schools for 5-16 year old pupils, in cash terms, in 2024-25 was £7,690, a 49% increase compared to £5,180 allocated per pupil in 2010-11. When adjusted for inflation, funding per pupil was broadly flat between 2010-11 and 2015-16 at around £7,200 in 2023-24 prices.

When adjusted for inflation, funding per pupil was broadly flat between 2010-11 and 2015-16 at around £7,200 in 2023-24 prices. It then fell by 3.9% over 2016-17 and 2017-18, but subsequently increased by 1.2% over 2018-19 and 2019-20. Since then, funding has increased by 7.9% (after adjusting for inflation) over the course of the following five years, reaching £7,570 in 2024-25 (in 2023-24 prices).

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 21:48

Poyau 發表於 24-5-31 10:44
班巴士是給合資格學生還是額外提供?
前者 Council/學校應妥善安排
如無改善有無考慮找 Councillor/MP?

Thanks for the info.
>找 Councillor/MP?

校長己經嘈左幾年，家長都有一齊寫信去council and MP，時間改好左，改為十分鐘後到學校，其他就無聲氣。己經咁多年，睇怕唔會改變

學校同屋企隔離唔過3公里，不過我睇D forum 話即使過3 miles, council 會先派去就近既學校，除非無學位係就近既學校。

其實唔係遠，不過行路比較難，又要上山，小朋友可能行快D，我上次行左成個鐘，不過我有車，可以車佢，但係巴士服務做到咁，也難為了好多學生哥

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 21:59

964000 發表於 24-5-31 06:23
本帖最後由 964000 於 24-5-31 10:55 編輯

而家仲全部online class 其實對自己都唔好

講起 online meeting

學校自從 covid 順便改 parents meeting做 online

Covid 完左都唔改番面對面，online book 老師見仲係先到先得，一晚only, 好似 online speed dating 咁，滿額就無得見。

有年我約好晒，但果晚佢個平台有問題，得我入唔到，我不停問佢地幫手，無人答，結果一星期後，覆我話可能 it technical issue!

不過我果晚就無左成個 parents meeting.

之後我都費鬼事去 "speed dating", 每人只有三分鐘，真係無乜野好講

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 22:05

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-5-31 22:11 編輯

beastiebistro 發表於 24-5-31 07:16
你講出咗其中一個重點，亦係點解我成日話香港家長心裡面憧憬嘅英式教育，其實只有私校先提供到... ...

係呀！私校有好多課外活動，小班教育，提供靚靚既校園，厠所乾淨，(公校厠所，有D你都唔敢去！）而且我覺得膳食應該會好D？！呢個我唔知。

我去過一次我朋友既私校，好多課外活動，靚靚的。

所以英式教育係盤大生意。至於本地教育的分別，一般人可能唔知。

我唔係覺得英國本地學校特別大問題，只不過同私校係唔同既東西。真係要調整預期。

由於本地學校無國際學生，起碼我呢度無。無一個講廣東話既學生，揾朋友要更加積極，英文底子要好好，否則比較難有朋友圈。

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-5-31 22:07

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 22:05
係呀！私校有好多課外活動，小班教育，提供靚靚既校園，厠所乾淨，(公校厠所，有D你都唔敢去！）而且我 ...

我對英國私校教育都有少少研究，有需要PM可以交流下。你都可以睇睇我啲日誌...

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-31 22:10

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 21:59
講起 online meeting

學校自從 covid 順便改 parents meeting做 online

好鬼冇誠意

面見都費事
不過得三分鐘見都冇用啦

作者: 964000 時間: 24-5-31 22:16

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 22:05
係呀！私校有好多課外活動，小班教育，提供靚靚既校園，厠所乾淨，(公校厠所，有D你都唔敢去！）而且我 ...

同私校個分別稔都可以想像到，始終一分錢一分貨。
Gramma school 的目的，係幫你聚集了一班起碼有心讀書的同學一起讀，否則和一班冇心讀讀的攪事的一齊仲煩。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-5-31 22:19

964000 發表於 24-5-31 22:10
好鬼冇誠意面見都費事
不過得三分鐘見都冇用啦

係，之前果次我問乜佢都話: "Very good."

我問D我擔心既問題，佢就答我： "I wouldn't worry about that."

再問咁有邊方面須要改善？佢就話無野須要改善！"She is doing so well"

我唸緊一係我女係天才，一係你其實唔記得佢係邊個？

咁我唸，一定係前者

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 08:15

beastiebistro 發表於 24-5-31 07:25
部分學校有積極研究點樣claim返部分VAT，即係唔會20%全部轉嫁落學費到。亦有部分學校話如果做pay in advanc ...

https://www.ft.com/content/031cd124-1c63-43e7-9008-2c8f0b460917

Sir Keir Starmer, Labour leader, has said the flagship policy would be implemented “as soon as it can be done” after the election on July 4 if his party wins power.

.................

Dan Neidle, a tax expert at think-tank Tax Policy Associates, told the Financial Times that the VAT rise “almost certainly” could not be applied by September, regardless of when Labour’s first Budget would be.

He predicted that Labour would be likely to hold a consultation during the autumn on details of the policy.

“I expect they’ll make an announcement pretty soon after the election, saying they’ll apply VAT from perhaps April, with an anti-forestalling measure to stop pre-payment,” he said. “It would be more conventional to apply it from September 2025 but I think they’ll want to move quicker, for political and financial reasons.”

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-6-1 08:22

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 21:48
Thanks for the info.
>找 Councillor/MP?

Welcome
巴士事件去到 Safeguarding 層面
校長有無同另外兩間學校溝通？

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 08:45

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-6-1 09:02 編輯

964000 發表於 24-5-31 22:16
同私校個分別稔都可以想像到，始終一分錢一分貨。
Gramma school 的目的，係幫你聚集了一班起碼有心讀書的 ...

yes totally agreed.
I am happy with her friends so far, almost all of them have predicted gcse grades mostly at 8-9, very bright girls with good manner. Some really good in science, some excellent writers, one girl can write so so so good I wonder how she can reach that kind of level.

Girls who didn't like this type of school, think it is too academic, left the school and went for some other more "free style" schools.

Heard one girl, who left the school for another local comprehensive school, got pregnant at age 13 with a 11 years old boy!

She then got an abortion and put this up at her story page! Mind blowing!

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 08:59

Poyau 發表於 24-6-1 08:22
Welcome
巴士事件去到 Safeguarding 層面
校長有無同另外兩間學校溝通？

Teachers said what happens outside the school is not under their control, especially those students are not from their school.

Guess they might not want to get involved.

作者: beastiebistro 時間: 24-6-1 09:46

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-1 08:15
https://www.ft.com/content/031cd124-1c63-43e7-9008-2c8f0b460917

雖然政策係點都冇人知，不過應該冇追溯力，佢真正上場推行政策前之前做或者可行...

作者: 宮二 時間: 24-6-1 16:47

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-5-31 22:05
係呀！私校有好多課外活動，小班教育，提供靚靚既校園，厠所乾淨，(公校厠所，有D你都唔敢去！）而且我 ...

唔好以為所有收錢既私校就一定係好既學校，亦唔可以只睇校園表面；
有些貴族私校，表面校園似皇宮，睇真啲四圍都貼有anti bullying 既温馨提示，再睇埋成績⋯
另外你讀的local school 最起碼有一個好處就係無人課餘用普通話溝通；而你會驚訝某些香港及大中華都追捧成績優越名校，在校園走廊會聽到好多學生用普通話交談。
既然你人在英國，有轉校嘅打算就要向前望，咪再浪費時間，積極親身去open morning參觀下，同師生傾吓偈感受下。

作者: 貝珠 時間: 24-6-1 20:12

宮二發表於 24-6-1 16:47
唔好以為所有收錢既私校就一定係好既學校，亦唔可以只睇校園表面；
有些貴族私校，表面校園似皇宮，睇真啲 ...

如果係日校，應該冇咩學生用普通話溝通吧。

其實移居左過英國，唔駛搬又可以揀嘅私校day school , 真係唔多。相信樓主都唔會揀boarding school as day student , 太貴了。

上得sixth form ，如果係grammar school 真係唔會差得去邊，但我會doubt 升學support 會有幾足夠，如果你aim high 。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 20:33

其實公校都有好多 high achievement 既勁學校，但要考到入去非常非常難！

例如 London Academy of Excellence (LAE) in Stratford London

CLASS OF 2023 A Level RESULTS

25% of all grades achieved were A*

65% of all grades achieved were A* or A

92% of all grades achieved were in the range A* to B

The vast majority of our graduating students are now set to progress to their first choice university: 45 students will be pursuing medical degrees; 22 students will be taking up places at Oxford and Cambridge and more than a third of our 2023 cohort will be furthering their studies at Imperial, UCL, LSE and Kings College.

Other students will be moving on to start highly competitive apprenticeships at top City law firms, engineering companies and accountancy practices.

真係神校

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 20:43

最近我睇 London 既神公校，發現還不少，正如之前有D人講既私校 a 工廠

呢D就係公校A工廠，數目還不少，不過見D人 review, 好似係你要 gcse 近乎全部 grade 9 先最大機會入，而且佢亦會 interview, 見D想考入去既學生差不多全部 predicted grade 9, 有D如果係大部份 grade 9, 有幾科 grade 8 都擔心入唔到

我打算乜都申請下，真係一個大project

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 20:53

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beastiebistro 發表於 24-6-1 09:46
雖然政策係點都冇人知，不過應該冇追溯力，佢真正上場推行政策前之前做或者可行... ...

We will only know after July now!

VAT on school fees, changes ahead?

AT Director

John Rainsford

Business tax

With a General Election around the corner, which may lead to a change in Government, there is currently a lot of focus on Labour party policy. Labour has stated that it will exclude independent schools from VAT exemption, which will result in VAT on school fees.

Fee paying schools are therefore considering the impact of having to apply VAT, expected to be imposed at the standard rate of 20%, on their charges, especially given the need for schools to plan their budgets years in advance. VAT is also expected to be added to boarding charges as being ‘closely related’ supplies. The addition of VAT to education will represent a fundamental change to a sector which has always been exempt from VAT, with no VAT charged on income or recovered on expenditure, but the biggest impact will be the added financial burden to parents and guardians. Many schools are considering ways to reduce costs and the impact of being able to recover VAT incurred on expenditure, so that the normal annual fee increases can be minimised, or even reduced to lessen the burden for families.

There has been much discussion regarding the possibility of parents paying school fees in advance of the General Election, while the payments remain exempt from VAT. While there seem to be more independent schools introducing payment in advance (PIA) arrangements, it has always been common for schools to operate these, whereby parents can prepay fees months or years in advance of them being due. There are many reasons why this is attractive to those parents and guardians who can make advance payments, such as taking advantage of any reductions offered by the school and having the certainty that the future fees have been accounted for.

As a fundamental VAT principle, VAT only becomes due at the ‘time of supply’, otherwise known as the tax point. Where there is a supply of services, the tax point is normally the date when the service has been completed. However, under the VAT legislation, where the supplier receives payment, or issues a VAT invoice, in advance, then that earlier date is the deemed tax point. This means that if a school receives payment in advance under a PIA arrangement, this creates a tax point, so the VAT treatment at that date is applicable. Therefore, under the normal rules, if school fees are paid when the supply of education is exempt, then no VAT would apply, even if the services are provided after any introduction of VAT.

Labour has however been clear that it will seek to block any arrangements which it believes avoid VAT and, as was the case when the standard rate of VAT increased from 17.5% to 20% in 2010, could introduce ‘anti-forestalling’ measures intended to ensure that VAT is due on advance payments made before any change in the VAT legislation. However, previous anti-forestalling provisions were only effective from the date the changes were announced by the Government, which could be the day after Labour forms a new Government.

Even if an anti-avoidance provision is used, this would also not be expected to apply before a change in the VAT treatment is announced. However, the possibility remains that a new Government could seek to introduce retrospective legislation if it takes the position that advance payments are part of an avoidance scheme. Although this would be highly unusual, there have been examples, albeit very few and not in respect of VAT, where retrospective legislation has been introduced allowing HMRC to go back and collect the tax.

There are also existing rules in place, as outlined in VAT Notice 700/8, which require disclosure of tax avoidance schemes which are intended to give a ‘VAT advantage’. It may however be difficult for these provisions to be used to suggest the arrangements are artificial when the current VAT rules are fully complied with.

There has been the suggestion that Labour could challenge prepayment schemes on the basis the payments are a deposit from which the school can draw down in due course and not actually deemed to be fees paid in advance of a supply. Although deposits held as security, for example where held in an escrow account, do not create a tax point, it is difficult to see how HMRC could seek to use this argument to challenge the exempt treatment of advance payments, especially if the payments are attributed to specific school term periods.

It has also been reported that Labour could seek to stop schools using the ‘Capital Goods Scheme’ to clawback a proportion of VAT incurred on qualifying large capital projects undertaken by the school in the previous 10-year period, such as new classroom accommodation or a new library, which continued to be used following any introduction of VAT. This too would require a change to a well-established VAT provision and it is difficult to see how this would be targeted to only apply to the education sector.

Although the Labour Party has made it clear that it will do what is necessary to ensure that what it sees as the full amount of VAT due is collected, there may be an element of hoping the threat of challenge to PIA arrangements is enough to minimise their use, and so avoid the need to introduce additional changes which could be subject to challenge.

作者: TTEE1819 時間: 24-6-1 21:52

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-1 20:33
其實公校都有好多 high achievement 既勁學校，但要考到入去非常非常難！

例如 London Academy of Excelle ...

本帖最後由 TTEE1819 於 24-6-1 21:55 編輯

哇，你唔講，我係唔知stratford 有間成績好嘅sixth form college。如去london, 我成日住Stratford, 成日行Westfield stratford city和stratford shopping centre，去中超買野, 真係無留意附近有這學校。 google見到佢收480個學生，即係 Year 12有240， year 13有240，一個intake有45人讀medicine (medical degree? ), 勁呀。多謝介紹，我保存這資料先，睇下有無住london朋友岩洗先。

作者: 貝珠 時間: 24-6-1 22:29

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-1 20:43
最近我睇 London 既神公校，發現還不少，正如之前有D人講既私校 a 工廠

呢D就係公校A工廠，數目還不少，不 ...

我朋友個女讀果間grammar school 佢話有4成人predicted grade 係全9。你可以問下學校有冇呢方面數字。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 23:05

貝珠發表於 24-6-1 22:29
我朋友個女讀果間grammar school 佢話有4成人predicted grade 係全9。你可以問下學校有冇呢方面數字。
...

wow excellent results even for grammar school!!!

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-1 23:17

TTEE1819 發表於 24-6-1 21:52
本帖最後由 TTEE1819 於 24-6-1 21:55 編輯

哇，你唔講，我係唔知stratford 有間成績好嘅sixth form co ...

我都好鍾意行 westfield，可以行成日，特別鍾意去近 waitrose 旁間馬來西亞餐食野。

根據你既數字， 240人有 22入 oxbridge 都好勁

係London 好出名的

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-6-2 20:01

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-1 20:33
其實公校都有好多 high achievement 既勁學校，但要考到入去非常非常難！

例如 London Academy of Excelle ...

作者: Poyau 時間: 24-6-3 14:31

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-1 20:43
最近我睇 London 既神公校，發現還不少，正如之前有D人講既私校 a 工廠

呢D就係公校A工廠，數目還不少，不 ...

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-3 15:52

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-6-3 16:04 編輯

Thanks so much!!! very useful

我見D好既公校或私校sixth form, 多數係優先本校學生，咁都係正常既.

例如見有D可能只會收 30-40 個 external students into their sixth form, 好多只收2O個，有D唔公怖數字。申請既學生就有數百個。平均十幾個人爭一個位。公校會更多人申請，因為申請係免費，只須填張 online form.

Top 私校好多無正式公怖有幾多人申請，但我周圍搵資料時見有間倫敦既搶手私校，往年學生講，sixth form 幾百人申請, external 男仔收十個，external 女仔十個，係 day school +boarding, boarding 女仔可能得三個位，因為無乜人 gcse 之後走。所以 boarding 位非常搶手。仲要睇下揀乜野科，熱門科目更加難入。

作者: 964000 時間: 24-6-3 18:12

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-3 15:52
Thanks so much!!! very useful

我見D好既公校或私校sixth form, 多數係優先本校學生，咁都係正常既.

我見都多人6th form轉校，如果對現在的grammar school不滿意，咪再試下報，公立私校都試下，去到6th form都係睇成績。

作者: sumikogurashi 時間: 24-6-3 20:52

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-3 15:52
Thanks so much!!! very useful

我見D好既公校或私校sixth form, 多數係優先本校學生，咁都係正常既.

所以考好個GCSE, 攞住8-9 增加入讀好學校的sixth form 機會。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-6 18:52

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-6-6 18:54 編輯

同大家 update 下

個老師返左嚟唔耐，佢既教學進度比較慢同無其他老師勤力。

此老師原來長期患有抑鬱症+幻聽！但之前既重病與此無關。

真係唔知點去反應好！

佢因為有幻聽，所以係學校一隻耳要戴一邊耳茼，play 一D野去控制佢既病情！clam the nerve.

我對精神病唔太瞭解，唔知道咁係咪有效既療法，但只知學校批准佢咁做，因為佢係有醫生紙的。

我對抑鬱症亦無太大認識，亦唔知香港或者其他國家係點處理。幻聽我更唔識，學校從來無交代過佢既事。係以一個正常老師咁看待。

我只聞說佢情緒波動幾大，同埋因為佢幾種病在身，都好影響佢教書。

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-6-7 13:06

本帖最後由 TAIOU4 於 24-6-7 13:07 編輯

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-6 18:52
同大家 update 下

個老師返左嚟唔耐，佢既教學進度比較慢同無其他老師勤力。

唔炒得
尼類Case香港都成日有
學校一炒就會畀佢告到甩褲
閒閒o地屈幾百萬

Long Sick Leave / Work Injury 屈公司錢文化所向無敵
先唔好理佢真定假
佢拎住咁多張牌基本上玩晒

入得Grammar School 好多都經歷過11+
家長應該都有返D實力
我諗醒目o既年頭見勢色唔對都已經走o左 / 準備走

只好怪自己唔好彩
唯有自己出錢放學補習
始終公開試唔似校內試
考得唔好講乜都冇用
而且你考得唔好就走唔到
即係以後仲有機會同佢玩落去

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-7 19:21

本帖最後由 KIMLIFEINUK 於 24-6-7 19:27 編輯

TAIOU4 發表於 24-6-7 13:06
唔炒得
尼類Case香港都成日有
學校一炒就會畀佢告到甩褲

我唸可能係咁。
唉！佢告假既所有課程唔會補教番，聽講只有自學，幾個 chapter 也不淺，惟有揾外援教返。

其實同學仔都好公平咁講，老師個人無乜野，但身體同精神健康都咁差，其實唔適合做老師，應該專心醫病。否則病情只會一直拖落去。難以想像個腦同一時間，一邊耳聽 headphone, 一邊耳有學生問佢野，一邊又要講書。

佢情緒又有時好激動就鬧學生，真係好難搞！佢話自己係無幻覺，叫大家放心！

作者: TAIOU4 時間: 24-6-7 21:08

本帖最後由 TAIOU4 於 24-6-7 21:08 編輯

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-7 19:21
我唸可能係咁。
唉！佢告假既所有課程唔會補教番，聽講只有自學，幾個 chapter 也不淺，惟有揾外援教返。
...

可能要研究下英國學校關於教師請Long Sick o既條例
我覺得有可能有Rule係1年最多只可放N個月
否則就有辭退理由

唔識睇...

https://neu-org-uk.translate.goog/advice/your-rights-work/contracts/sick-leave/teachers-sick-pay-and-sick-leave-entitlement?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=zh-TW&_x_tr_hl=zh-TW&_x_tr_pto=wapp

作者: 964000 時間: 24-6-8 09:11

KIMLIFEINUK 發表於 24-6-6 18:52
同大家 update 下

個老師返左嚟唔耐，佢既教學進度比較慢同無其他老師勤力。

咁都冇計，千祈唔好刺激佢
如果下年都係佢教，都要稔下轉校。

作者: KIMLIFEINUK 時間: 24-6-9 07:56

964000 發表於 24-6-8 09:11
咁都冇計，千祈唔好刺激佢
如果下年都係佢教，都要稔下轉校。

>千祈唔好刺激佢

Yes this sounds very strange in a way!

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