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作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-19 20:46 標題: 香港科大

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Subject: Computer Science with Artificial Intelligence

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-1-20 06:41 標題: 回覆樓主:

英國發展好啲，google嘅ai公司都係晌英國，不過southampton就麻麻哋

作者: lamb2003 時間: 22-1-20 10:45

sleung2020 發表於 22-1-20 06:41
英國發展好啲，google嘅ai公司都係晌英國，不過southampton就麻麻哋

請問Southampton 點解麻麻地呢?同Bristol and Bath 比較又如何呢?請指教

作者: Taimum 時間: 22-1-20 10:51

Mo媽媽發表於 22-1-19 20:46
Subject: Computer Science with Artificial Intelligence

男仔現在在UK讀A level ，收到這兩間大學嘅cond ...

知道Southampton這科在英排名嗎？

作者: minmin 時間: 22-1-20 12:09 標題: 回覆樓主：

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作者: jj100c 時間: 22-1-20 12:11

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科大應該year2先可以選major,你仔仔Alevel 有冇修further math?冇的話，在英國升大學會壓力無咁大。

作者: jj100c 時間: 22-1-20 12:14

聽亞女話佢學校有個學霸ucas都有報Southampton 的computer science and math,另外侄女都話Southampton astrophysics 都幾好。

作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 22-1-20 13:53

科大比較大壓力，我覺得英國讀會平衡 d。阿仔學校嘅 top student 都係讀呢科，揀咗 University of Menchester。

作者: minmin 時間: 22-1-20 14:43

我仔舊年DSE, 科大都收咗佢, 但佢去咗SOUTHAMPTON讀 computer science foundation
因佢無修讀M1/M2, 無更好的大學收佢.
我/老公都想佢去英國讀, 希望佢出去見識吓…(當然又因為香港既大環境問題)
最終係阿仔自己決定去SOUTHAMPTON讀.

樓主, 應該仲有其他OFFER未出, 你可睇埋其他OFFER先

作者: 王家爸爸 時間: 22-1-20 16:19

Taimum 發表於 22-1-20 10:51
知道Southampton這科在英排名嗎？

Good question

作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-20 17:26

王家爸爸發表於 22-1-20 16:19
Good question

Southampton
英國排名11
世界排名100以上

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作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-20 17:29

Southampton
英國排名11
世界排名100以上

作者: lamb2003 時間: 22-1-20 17:47

minmin 發表於 22-1-20 14:43
我仔舊年DSE, 科大都收咗佢, 但佢去咗SOUTHAMPTON讀 computer science foundation
因佢無修讀M1/M2, 無更好 ...

minmin, 可否分享一下你仔在Southampton讀書的感受呢?

作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-20 19:10

jj100c 發表於 22-1-20 12:11
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科大應該year2先可以選major,你仔仔Alevel 有冇修further math?冇的話，在英國升大學 ...

A level 有讀further math, math, computer science and physics, physics 成績比較差，佢hea讀呢科。

作者: jj100c 時間: 22-1-20 21:32

Hku , ust 都係屬於工程系，所以year 1除左programming 科目要讀之外，仲有數學calcalus, matrix , set theory,statistics 之類,比further Math 深入，仲有讀埋physics 的electronics, electricity+mechanic等等，Alevel 有修further math及physics 就冇咁吃力。year 2先會選major,視乎year 1成績，聽說computer science 都好多人爭。

作者: 王家爸爸 時間: 22-1-20 22:29

lamb2003 發表於 22-1-20 10:45
請問Southampton 點解麻麻地呢?同Bristol and Bath 比較又如何呢?請指教

如果三間都收，我會建議 Bristol。

作者: lamb2003 時間: 22-1-20 23:12

王家爸爸發表於 22-1-20 22:29
如果三間都收，我會建議 Bristol。

王家爸爸, 謝謝你的意見!!

作者: Taimum 時間: 22-1-21 00:04

王家爸爸發表於 22-1-20 22:29
如果三間都收，我會建議 Bristol。

点解？本科1 0名之外喎！Bristol出名好似是Aerospace Engineering.

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-1-21 08:04

王家爸爸發表於 22-1-20 22:29
如果三間都收，我會建議 Bristol。

同意，啲分科排名，睇吓就算

作者: iamderek 時間: 22-1-21 10:52

其實樓主阿仔的UST conditional offer係咪JS5282 (Engineering with an Extended Major in Artificial Intelligence)？

另外，UCAS仲有無報其他大學？應該好多都未出result，未使咁快決定

作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-21 16:18

UST CO Engineering wih an Extended Major in Artificial Intelligence (Program Code B3001AI)
program code 不一樣。
UCAS 報嘅另外四間都較Top, 怕機會唔大啦！

作者: 王家爸爸 時間: 22-1-21 17:39

Taimum 發表於 22-1-21 00:04
点解？本科1 0名之外喎！Bristol出名好似是Aerospace Engineering.

Aerospace Engineering出名唔代表其他就唔出名。睇返英國既大學，電腦、AI比Bristol出名既只有Oxford、Cambridge、ICL、St Andrews、Manchester、Glasgow、UCL、Warwick同Durham呢九間。

作者: 王家爸爸 時間: 22-1-21 17:52

Mo媽媽發表於 22-1-21 16:18
UST CO Engineering wih an Extended Major in Artificial Intelligence (Program Code B3001AI)
program ...

如果係科大既Engineering with an Extended Major in Artificial Intelligence同Southampton既Computer Science with Artificial Intelligence比較，我認為科大好好多。

作者: Mo媽媽 時間: 22-1-21 18:36

知唔知科大競爭有幾大，20:1？
怕year2 成績唔夠好入唔到。

作者: iamderek 時間: 22-1-22 12:20

Mo媽媽發表於 22-1-21 18:36
知唔知科大競爭有幾大，20:1？
怕year2 成績唔夠好入唔到。

如果相信連登，year 2入CS，1st year GPA要3.6之上，轉換成grade，平均要有A-

作者: jj100c 時間: 22-1-22 16:08

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好大機會是真的，我仔問過engineering TA,取A真的不易，大部分工程同學都想入CS 或civil

作者: ratafan 時間: 22-2-1 11:38

Bristol > bath= Ust > Southampton

作者: Radiomama 時間: 22-2-5 12:59

Mo媽媽發表於 22-1-21 16:18
UST CO Engineering wih an Extended Major in Artificial Intelligence (Program Code B3001AI)
program ...

我仔昨天都收到呢科個CO, 同Bristol 的MEng 嘅CO比較的話, 科大的整體要求低幾分；十五十六諗緊會否交deposit.

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-2-5 14:56

Mo媽媽發表於 22-1-20 17:26
Southampton
英國排名11
世界排名100以上

分科排名睇吓就算，如果glasgow同ucl都收，唔通跟排名走去glasgow

作者: papaman 時間: 22-2-5 17:54

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如果是我，除非有其他原因決定不在香港升學，我會交 deposit. 科大其實很不錯，特別工程糸，不比上面談到的幾間英國大學差，可能更好，在全球排名也不錯，國際認受性也高，工程全球排名這幾年都在20 名內，加上如UST offer 要求比較親民，考試有什麼差遲也有好的大學讀。

作者: supermum 時間: 22-2-5 18:56 標題: 回覆樓主：

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作者: jj100c 時間: 22-2-5 22:56

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我仔女科大都冇interview,就比conditional offer

作者: annie40 時間: 22-2-6 16:16 標題: RE: 香港科大 vs Southampton

Radiomama 發表於 22-2-5 12:59
我仔昨天都收到呢科個CO, 同Bristol 的MEng 嘅CO比較的話, 科大的整體要求低幾分；十五十六諗緊會否交depo ...

請問孩子的意願如何？按undergradute來說，科大跟Bristol分別不會很大。自己在有限的知識內，知道一點點優勢是
科大：
1）往海外交流半年，一年的機會多得很。Bristol 幾乎無，有的話也要自費兼延畢一年
2）香港提供給大學生各色各様實習機會。英國全靠自己揾，搵到有薪實習的機會不多。（實習機會很重要）

Bristol：
1）同學群比較多元文化，遇到學術界「怪茄」同學的機率較高，也許就是人生貴人。
2）海外留學。試過就清楚like or dislike 某地方，某生活。這個對日後人生方向很重要。

科技界講求個人實力，講求高人指路，遠遠勝於名校光環。現在萬物互聯，自己主動學習，上網找高手交流亦無不可。

作者: Radiomama 時間: 22-2-6 16:30

annie40 發表於 22-2-6 16:16
請問孩子的意願如何？按undergradute來說，科大跟Bristol分別不會很大。自己在有限的知識內，知道一點點優 ...

其實暫時未決定，因還有好些學校未派offer; 科大2月尾就要交deposit, 看來都值得付款。

作者: annie40 時間: 22-2-6 19:10

Radiomama 發表於 22-2-6 16:30
其實暫時未決定，因還有好些學校未派offer; 科大2月尾就要交deposit, 看來都值得付款。
...

幾乎90％以上的家長都會付款，成為每年科大漂亮額外收益的神助攻。

作者: grace.ywp 時間: 22-2-6 23:52

annie40 發表於 22-2-6 16:16
請問孩子的意願如何？按undergradute來說，科大跟Bristol分別不會很大。自己在有限的知識內，知道一點點優 ...

我仔係香港讀undergraduate, 然後去了英國讀master。其實佢係year 2 and year 3 開學不久就要開始自己搵internship, 真係好難搵，大學係唔會幫你，全部自己嚟，過五關斬六將，都唔係個個同學搵到。
至於交流，係要睇GPA，冇3都冇望，所以樣樣都靠自己！

作者: annie40 時間: 22-2-7 09:27

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grace.ywp 發表於 22-2-6 23:52
我仔係香港讀undergraduate, 然後去了英國讀master。其實佢係year 2 and year 3 開學不久就要開始自己搵int ...

謝謝告知。相對而言在英國的有薪internship更少。

作者: annie40 時間: 22-2-7 09:30

grace.ywp 發表於 22-2-6 23:52
我仔係香港讀undergraduate, 然後去了英國讀master。其實佢係year 2 and year 3 開學不久就要開始自己搵int ...

在港念undergradute,master 以上往海外升學，十分推蔫。

作者: iamderek 時間: 22-2-7 10:51

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重點是要肯定阿仔係學霸，Y2入到CS major。如果係其他major再加AI，我睇唔出synergy有幾大

作者: kct18 時間: 22-2-7 14:12

grace.ywp 發表於 22-2-6 23:52
我仔係香港讀undergraduate, 然後去了英國讀master。其實佢係year 2 and year 3 開學不久就要開始自己搵int ...

請問當年阿仔喺香港係讀什麼科？

作者: grace.ywp 時間: 22-2-7 14:29

kct18 發表於 22-2-7 14:12
請問當年阿仔喺香港係讀什麼科？

Business

作者: Cai-Jianlin 時間: 22-2-15 05:38

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作者: J_D74 時間: 22-4-1 16:00

英國啦，省一年，咁就早d 讀埋master。始終我比較buy外國stormbrain嘅教學模式，讀it, 應該要有新意。

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-1 21:36

iamderek 發表於 22-2-7 10:51
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重點是要肯定阿仔係學霸，Y2入到CS major。如果係其他major再加AI，我睇唔出synerg ...

好多行業用緊ai

作者: ANChan59 時間: 22-4-1 23:02

Radiomama 發表於 22-2-6 16:30
其實暫時未決定，因還有好些學校未派offer; 科大2月尾就要交deposit, 看來都值得付款。
...

J has UCO of a better university, why pay UST deposit?

Buy me a dinner instead.

作者: Radiomama 時間: 22-4-2 08:15

ANChan59 發表於 22-4-1 23:02
J has UCO of a better university, why pay UST deposit?

Buy me a dinner instead.

當時是2月啊，為買保險，當然乖乖地付上deposit啦。之後的offer在三月下旬才出現。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 22-4-2 08:24

Radiomama 發表於 22-4-2 08:15
當時是2月啊，為買保險，當然乖乖地付上deposit啦。之後的offer在三月下旬才出現。
...

本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 22-4-2 08:26 編輯

Oh, time difference. But he had other universities CO.

Some kids and parents take UST as best choice, also many parents and kids take it as a reasonable safety net.

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-2 09:27

Radiomama 發表於 22-4-2 08:15
當時是2月啊，為買保險，當然乖乖地付上deposit啦。之後的offer在三月下旬才出現。
...

Cong!!! Your son is a genius! CS in CXU is at the same level (or even better than) MIT/Stanford.

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-2 14:16

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-2 09:27
Cong!!! Your son is a genius! CS in CXU is at the same level (or even better than) MIT/Stanford. :go ...

are you serious?

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-2 19:03

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-2 14:16
are you serious?

Frankly, ranking is important as an initial reference. Then have to understand the items being measured and their definition accordingly, and the weight that contributes to the final score. I would like to check the ranking, then select the attribute(s) that are important to my concern, and then go to the department website, check the research groups and recent projects and publications, and funding sources in detail. Then finally select the faculties, blah blah blah...

After checking all these, I seriously share with you, CMU is super good. If you only choose for reputation, Stanford MIT is for sure. But, if you look for the research topic and the supervisor, I believe you won't disappoint at CMU.

Just like, if you are keen on the research of computation theory, or formal theory, e.g., category theory, abstract algebra... the best research groups and professors are in Europe.

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-2 19:10

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Just like, if you want to do deep learning research, UofT is one of the best choices, as the godfather of dl is there. Of course, it depends if you can follow him or not...

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-4 10:40

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-2 19:03
Frankly, ranking is important as an initial reference. Then have to understand the items being meas ...

Reputation does not arise without a reason. If you choose CMU over Stanford, you would make a lot of people happy - seriously.

作者: ElaiUKStudy 時間: 22-4-4 12:05

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-4 10:40
Reputation does not arise without a reason. If you choose CMU over Stanford, you would make a lot o ...

CMU is top gun for Computer Science!

作者: cow 時間: 22-4-4 12:15

英國易攞1st Hon. 英國啦
香港讀大學好唔著數

作者: cow 時間: 22-4-4 12:24

sleung2020 發表於 22-1-20 06:41
英國發展好啲，google嘅ai公司都係晌英國，不過southampton就麻麻哋

Google AI 都有公司係英國

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-4 12:52

cow 發表於 22-4-4 12:24
Google AI 都有公司係英國

deepmind本身係英國公司，俾google收購咗，英國將啲科技公司賣得七七八八

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-4 12:53

ElaiUKStudy 發表於 22-4-4 12:05
CMU is top gun for Computer Science!

not the toppest

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-4 14:27

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-4 12:53
not the toppest

It depends on the definition of the toppest, if you don't mind sharing your "definition".

Frankly, it is my pleasure if I can make a lot of people happy because of my choice one day.

Again, it is risky to make a decision just based on a widespread good reputation, without your own list of considerations, no matter whether that's MIT, Stanford, or others.

My friend finally selected U of Washington rather than Stanford studying his PhD because of the supervisor (many years ago), and now working in MS HQ. He enjoys his life and works so much!

作者: cow 時間: 22-4-4 15:22

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-4 12:52
deepmind本身係英國公司，俾google收購咗，英國將啲科技公司賣得七七八八

...

連ARM都可以賣!

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-4 16:42

cow 發表於 22-4-4 15:22
連ARM都可以賣!

arm既单一大股東好似係softbank

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-5 04:11

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-4 14:27
It depends on the definition of the toppest, if you don't mind sharing your "definition".

If he went to Stanford, his life could be even better

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-5 08:20

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-5 04:11
If he went to Stanford, his life could be even better

how do u know?

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-5 11:34

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-5 08:20
how do u know?

I don't know. What I meant was that although he has a good life now, it does not prove he made the right decision.

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-5 12:40

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-5 11:34
I don't know. What I meant was that although he has a good life now, it does not prove he made the ...

I think everyone has the responsibility for his own life, including this guy. He has no responsibility to prove it to you and me, and no one can ask him to prove it, too. Right!

And, most important, what is the definition of "good choice"? Your definition may not be the same as his.

Don't force the others to follow yours. We better have a "respect" attitude rather than a "challenge" attitude.

作者: ElaiUKStudy 時間: 22-4-5 14:45

sleung2020 發表於 22-4-4 12:53
not the toppest

我一向不太注重排名，這個只是大學做marketing的東西，口碑才是重點。三十年前入IBM (大家要知道三十年前的IBM係科技翹楚，等如現在的蘋果加Google），入面有不少CMU畢業生，去IBM做研究。如果係CMU畢業生，真係頭上有光環的。當年讀電腦的係冇人唔識CMU。

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-6 03:28

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-5 12:40
I think everyone has the responsibility for his own life, including this guy. He has no responsibili ...

Right, so he might not have made the best choice, although he has had a good life already

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-6 08:58

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sleung2020 發表於 22-4-6 03:28
Right, so he might not have made the best choice, although he has had a good life already

what is your definition of "best"? money? big house? CXO position of an international company? or graduated from Stanford / MIT (but not from others, e.g. Oxbridge, as they are all not "best")? be a student of a professor (a nobel laureate)? Or anything else?

you just keep saying something vague without definition...

It is better I let him chat with you directly, as you are commenting on him personally. I don't want to involve in a potential defamation discussion anymore.

作者: sleung2020 時間: 22-4-6 10:54

twhkleung 發表於 22-4-6 08:58
what is your definition of "best"? money? big house? CXO position of an international company? or g ...

You tried to suggest he made a good decision thus having a good life now, which was misleading. Having a good life cannot prove he made the right decision. It is possible he would have an even better life today if he chose Stanford. If you still don't get what I have been saying, I doubt your logical sense.

作者: cow 時間: 22-4-6 10:58

作者: cow 時間: 22-4-6 11:00

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-6 12:17

cow 發表於 22-4-6 10:58

One simply keeps asking what is the definition, and one keeps expressing s/he is logical from personal feeling without any details.

Yes, not worth to listen for the discussion from fools...

作者: twhkleung 時間: 22-4-6 12:22

cow 發表於 22-4-6 10:58

就是哩句“ to not argue with fools”. 我必須馬上收了，否则便给圖中智者說中了...

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