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作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-20 23:10     標題: ICS vs. Victoria for K1 offer

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My kid is given two K1 offers, one from International Christian School and the other from Victoria International Nursery (Homantin). Both are very good, but it seems that they are very different in terms of many aspects. We do not know much about them. It makes us difficult to choose one of them.
Also, for ICS, we are not sure whether my kid can get used to the Christian environment there or not. In addition, we aim to have the kid go to an international school after kindergarten.
Any one can share some opinions? We did learn a lot from previous posts here. Thank you.



作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-12-21 09:40

ICS係最重宗教,如果你抗拒,係未必適合。

Victoria係好的幼稚園,我女都係畢業生。除非你鍾意Vsa,會買債券,否則入到維記K1,並唔係可以安安樂樂就上到心儀IS。中間要付出努力,同埋經歷患得患失的搵學校過程。
作者: Jenjanjan    時間: 20-12-21 15:52

They are two very different streams.   If you like ICS elementary school, you will have much better chance getting in if you join their kindergarten. They follow American curriculum. They are Christian school so bible study is a must. I like them because it is a small school with very experienced and caring teachers.

Victoria do not have guaranteed option for primary schools so if you want to go international school for year 1, you still need to go through application and interview processes when your kid is K2. Do you already have preferences on which international schools to go after kindergarten? Certain school’s year 1 are hard to get into if you don’t start from kindergarten

作者: heebo    時間: 20-12-21 16:10

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其實只要你唔抗拒孩子接受基督教教育就冇問題,ICS 很多學生都不是來自基督教家庭。入ICS幼稚園,較大機會升ICS小學。學費以外的費用,文具自己買,書簿學校提供。
印象中 ICS的孩子單純、樸素,喜好較美國化,但普遍不太喜歡中文。

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-12-21 16:33

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-20 23:10
My kid is given two K1 offers, one from International Christian School and the other from Victoria I ...
如果你想小朋友讀國際學校,我會選擇ICS,至少你可以不用担心沒有IS 位,就算ICS不是你首選IS, 你也可以再嘗試申請你心儀IS, 但壓力少很多,因為不成功你都有一條龍直升。Victoria 雖然是好,但何文田campus大多以local school primary 為目的,所以對想入IS 幫助不大。
作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 16:49

Jane1983 發表於 20-12-21 09:40
ICS係最重宗教,如果你抗拒,係未必適合。

Victoria係好的幼稚園,我女都係畢業生。除非你鍾意Vsa,會買債 ...
We do not that 抗拒 Christian, but we are afraid that my kid (from a non-Christian family) may feel pressured at ICS.

For Victoria kindergarten graduates, do they also have to buy dentures like outsiders if they prefer to get in VSA? Approximately how many of them get in VSA without buying dentures?

作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-12-21 16:54

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我女已經中學,我地讀果陣係初推出債券,入Vsa的同學都無買到。


作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 16:55

Jenjanjan 發表於 20-12-21 15:52
They are two very different streams.   If you like ICS elementary school, you will have much better  ...
Haven't come up with ideas on which international schools we should choose for primary yet... We do think ICS is a good one in terms of academic excellence, but Victoria is also very attractive due to its bilingual environment...
作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 16:59

heebo 發表於 20-12-21 16:10
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其實只要你唔抗拒孩子接受基督教教育就冇問題,ICS 很多學生都不是來自基督教家庭。 ...
Yes, that is why we also like ICS because it trains the kids with good behaviors and it is an almost through-train from K to Primary. For those kids from non-Christian families, do they eventually become a Christian after staying there for years?
作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 17:11

gingercatcat 發表於 20-12-21 16:33
如果你想小朋友讀國際學校,我會選擇ICS,至少你可以不用担心沒有IS 位,就算ICS不是你首選IS, 你也可以再嘗 ...
Do most of graduates from Victoria Homantin go to local school primary? It looks the Victoria website only reports overall placement from all campus, no placement data from each individual campus.
作者: 964000    時間: 20-12-21 17:11

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-20 23:10
My kid is given two K1 offers, one from International Christian School and the other from Victoria I ...

如果你target維小就Vic,雖然不是直升但機會大過外校生。如果target其他English heavy IS,而你屋企有英文語境Vic都ok,否則只靠Vic有些小朋友英文水平未必夠考IS,多數要外補一下。
如果你target bilingual 的一類小學就維小適合D,同維幼都有功課,有班target local 家長都會緊張多補習,ICS氣氛似IS多D,例如close community and 多play dates,local多的學校,小朋友放學後好忙是很難約play dates的,這是我發現IS 和non IS幼稚園最大分別

作者: 964000    時間: 20-12-21 17:21

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 16:55
Haven't come up with ideas on which international schools we should choose for primary yet... We do  ...

I don’t think the 2 years of chinese study in Vic kindi really makes a lot of difference unless you continue to study in a bilingual school in primary. That level of chinese in kindi can readily be caught up by self tutorial. For those who only speak English at home, it might make some difference though.

作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 17:49

964000 發表於 20-12-21 17:11
如果你target維小就Vic,雖然不是直升但機會大過外校生。如果target其他English heavy IS,而你屋企有英文 ...
I see. I thought the English level of a kid in Victoria K could be high enough to get in all ISs. We will not continue to get in a bilingual school unless we can go to good bilingual schools like VSA and ISF.
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-12-21 18:07

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 17:49
I see. I thought the English level of a kid in Victoria K could be high enough to get in all ISs. We ...

Victoria始終係大校,學生人數眾多,水平差異亦頗大。單靠學校,你話所有學生的英語程度都high enough to get in all ISs的話,怕你3年後會好失望。

作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-12-21 18:10     標題: 回覆樓主:

不過話分兩頭,Victoria着重啟發和探究,三語語境唔錯,老師亦有愛心,我對學校都存感恩的心。

作者: 夕瑶小小    時間: 20-12-21 18:13

Jane1983 發表於 20-12-21 18:10
不過話分兩頭,Victoria着重啟發和探究,三語語境唔錯,老師亦有愛心,我對學校都存感恩的心。
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Agree. Is your daughter in VSA now? or other IS?
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-12-21 18:54

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Other IS。
作者: Jenjanjan    時間: 20-12-21 19:31

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 16:55
Haven't come up with ideas on which international schools we should choose for primary yet... We do  ...

I wouldn’t really class Victoria kindergarten as international school though. The key is whether you are aiming for VSA because if you give up Victoria kindergarten there’s almost zero chance in getting into VSA, although even if you are in vic kindergarten, you are competing with other 600 kids for like 200 places in VSA...

I guess whichever school you choose you still can apply for other year 1 places when your kid is K2 so the deciding factor is how much you want ICS year 1 or VSA

作者: gfkwong    時間: 20-12-21 20:56

Agreed. If you choose ICS, you have ICS primary school as back up. Application for year 1/ preparatory for IS is very competitive if you aim at popular ones. So if your goal is VSA, then stick with VEO. However, VEO is not really an international kindergarten and it doesn’t guarantee second interview.

作者: Coop    時間: 20-12-21 21:50

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I agree. It depends on which primary you want. But I think it’s easier to get in ICS primary as there are 8 VEO kindergartens to compete for VSA. But one thing need to remind that ICS is PIS instead of IS too. That means they don’t have requirement for foreign passport holder.
作者: mindfulmom    時間: 20-12-21 23:15     標題: 回覆樓主:

I do agree with Jane1983 that English competence differ among Vic kids. From average to native I would say. In other words, not all Vic kids are competent enough for IS education in terms of English competence.

For Chinese, I do have a different view from 964000. I think the literacy foundation and learning interest Vic helped build are essential to Chinese learning, though parents could also teach the kids by themselves or tutors.

Competition in VSA and ICS are both keen I think. They are both very good schools. However, getting into ICS is more probable than VSA comparatively. If you have no strong preference, you might go for a safer choice.

作者: Sumsumsum123    時間: 20-12-22 01:26

Coop 發表於 20-12-21 21:50
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I agree. It depends on which primary you want. But I think it’s easier to ge ...

VSA is PIS too

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-12-22 10:22

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 17:11
Do most of graduates from Victoria Homantin go to local school primary? It looks the Victoria websit ...
最多去IS 的victoria campus 應該係CWB. VSA 呢,我想majority from CWB and HH.
作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-12-22 10:28

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夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 17:11
Do most of graduates from Victoria Homantin go to local school primary? It looks the Victoria websit ...

And don't think you can guarantee a place in VSA if you are studying in Vic KG. You can have a chance to get a place but not as high as you think. My girl was also in Vic CWB previously but more than half of her class not get a place in VSA.
作者: Coop    時間: 20-12-22 11:17

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I think only 20 - 25% can get a place in VSA. My boy is in HH. It’s around 5-6 ppl in a class got VSA offer.And VSA releases offer in May every year. I think it’s very good for parents if they target local school. They have less pressure for coming local school interview if they have VSA offer on hand.

作者: heebo    時間: 20-12-22 13:26

夕瑶小小 發表於 20-12-21 16:59
Yes, that is why we also like ICS because it trains the kids with good behaviors and it is an almost ...
It's hard to say whether the students eventually become Christian after years of studying there but it's possible and I have seen at least one.  While Bible class is mandatory and is integrated into students' learning, the school doesn't force students to believe in Christ.
However, some teachers would invite students to join bible study at their home after school, just like they would take students out for hiking, to eat or just a chat at McDonald's outside school hours and it's all up to the students to decide whether to join or not.  Sorry I was talking about middle and high school here and it maybe a bit too far.

作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-12-23 10:54

If you have decided to go to the international school route ICS is a safer choice. If I were you I would think if i give up ICS now and am not able to get accepted by VSA 2 years later, what my plan would be? Am I confident my kid can get into an IS that is comparable to/better than ICS. My knowledge tells me if you only apply an IS after getting the result from VSA, you will probably need to look into the newer/less popular IS as the mass intake of most IS has passed by that time.

作者: 小米芝麻媽    時間: 20-12-23 20:42

Just want to add some information about ICS, it's a Christian school which your child will come home and ask you to pray with him/her. 65% families are Christian. It's a great way to rise a Christian child.  KG to EL is not train school, as they are in different campus. 80%-90% get offer after assessment in school.  The assessment is not academic base and you won't know when. You will know after they are done! All we know about the assessment is ... they are testing if the child can be successful in ICS until G12. Hahaha, it's ICS. They will finish learning A-Z in KG. The children probably don't know how to spell for a long time, but they are reading thick novel by G3. Magic! Priest to the Lord! As a play base school, everyday in school is so much fun.  Children love to go to school. Even the parents too. Parents' involvement are very important.  I would say twice a month you may want to be in school with your child. Child without mom on Mother's Day Party or Dad on Father's Day Party will be very sad.  You know what I mean. The relationship between families and teachers are very close. They basically know each other as many play dates through the years. 90% are Chinese families, so everyone learn Chinese on their own time. 70% are with foreign passport. ICS is not an International school. It's an independent school. I know it's sounds funny but this is how EDB classify it. May our Lord guide you and lead you to the right path of your child.





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