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作者: chima_pigpig 時間: 20-3-23 11:15 標題: 英國 passport 入英基
BB 係19年細B，計過數讀英基同私校差唔多。
爸爸係英國人，BB揸英國passport係British citizen, 想問入英基有冇優先？
唔該！
作者: tamwong 時間: 20-3-23 12:24
chima_pigpig 發表於 20-3-23 11:15 
BB 係19年細B，計過數讀英基同私校差唔多。
爸爸係英國人，BB揸英國passport係British citizen, 想問入英基 ...
本帖最後由 tamwong 於 20-3-23 12:24 編輯
as per my understanding.. as long as the kid is holding foreign passport (doesn't matter which country and I never heard that UK passport gets a higher chance) it will hold the some sort of priority as compared with local passport holder..
for higher priority some people would consider buying the NR debenture so you can guarantee to get a play visit interview... otherwise it's purely depends on the random number.
作者: ddbb0099 時間: 20-3-24 06:27
chima_pigpig 發表於 20-3-23 11:15
BB 係19年細B，計過數讀英基同私校差唔多。
爸爸係英國人，BB揸英國passport係British citizen, 想問入英基 ...
如同樣無任何priority 外國passport 是較本地 ID 優先
作者: 靛青女 時間: 20-3-24 22:44
How much is debenture?
作者: chima_pigpig 時間: 20-3-25 12:13
tamwong 發表於 20-3-23 12:24
本帖最後由 tamwong 於 20-3-23 12:24 編輯
as per my understanding.. as long as the kid is holding ...
Hi thanks for the info, what if during the interview my husband (who is a gwailo British, not HK British) brings him to interview, will that be better?
I thought EFS’s primary purpose when HK was still a british colony was to serve the children of the British people who work in HK...
作者: chima_pigpig 時間: 20-3-25 12:14
ddbb0099 發表於 20-3-24 06:27
如同樣無任何priority 外國passport 是較本地 ID 優先
想問英基有咩情況係有priority?
唔該！
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 20-3-25 13:39
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We are no longer living in colonial days...
You will get priority above local passports but it does not matter what passport you have.
And whoever brings the child to the playvisit/interview does not matter as long as the child can demonstrate English proficiency. I'm not sure what sort of message that would be sending if they were making offers based on people's race.
Highest priorities are: staff, siblings, debenture holders and alumni. The order is listed on their website. These will pretty much guarantee you an interview. Otherwise having a foreign passport itself does not guarantee an interview due to popularity esp the popular branches.
I know some foreign passport holders who didn't even get an interview chance because of a high number of applicants this year. Really down to your luck with the random number allocation.
作者: Activehealth 時間: 20-3-25 15:19
chima_pigpig 發表於 20-3-25 12:13
Hi thanks for the info, what if during the interview my husband (who is a gwailo British, not HK Br ...
Hey, you have picked the wrong school!
Kellett is the British International school in HK established in 1976.
作者: lastpass 時間: 20-3-25 17:31
chima_pigpig 發表於 20-3-25 12:14
想問英基有咩情況係有priority?
唔該！
一般來講包括staff kids，NR 人士，siblings，alumnai kids，如果apply小學仲有由K開始讀嗰啲(佢網站最清楚)。所以apply親佢實提醒你搵backup。
作者: gfkwong 時間: 20-3-26 08:29
外國人家長易啲入係因為小朋友英文好，唔係因為種族。不過有其他學校可以有corporate debenture,咁公司比外國staff 入米會多啲外國人，都係因為debenture 又唔係種族。
作者: chima_pigpig 時間: 20-3-27 20:22
gfkwong 發表於 20-3-26 08:29
外國人家長易啲入係因為小朋友英文好，唔係因為種族。不過有其他學校可以有corporate debenture,咁公司比外 ...
非常清晰，唔該晒！
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-14 18:21
chima_pigpig 發表於 20-3-25 12:13
Hi thanks for the info, what if during the interview my husband (who is a gwailo British, not HK Br ...
Should have priority for native speaking parents than locals
作者: 貝珠 時間: 20-4-14 21:08
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-14 18:21
Should have priority for native speaking parents than locals
Native English speaking parents 唔屬於一個priority
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-14 23:11
貝珠 發表於 20-4-14 21:08
Native English speaking parents 唔屬於一個priority
之前有講過，native speaking parents 有分加，雖然唔及 siblings, staff 同 nomination right 嘅 priority 咁高，但係同普通 local parents 比較係高分 d 排得前 d
作者: 貝珠 時間: 20-4-14 23:28
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-14 23:11
之前有講過，native speaking parents 有分加，雖然唔及 siblings, staff 同 nomination right 嘅 priorit ...
Esf admission 有講過？Priority 應該係寫清楚官網的，係佢地電腦system set 好晒的，就叫priority 。
作者: peter1 時間: 20-4-15 00:49
耐人尋味
Quoted from https://www.esf.edu.hk/admissions-kindergarten/
Children admitted to the kindergarten should be able to engage with an English medium, inquiry-based curriculum. Foreign passport holders will receive priority over local passport holders.
Priority will be based on the following ranked criteria:
Children of full-time staff or staff at ESF or ESF Educational Services Ltd. who have been employed by ESF for over a year;
Siblings of students already attending an ESF school;
Children who are Nominees under the ESF Kindergarten Class A Debenture Scheme;
Children of former students who have attended an ESF school for a minimum of three years or are former ESF students returning from a period overseas;
Other applicants who can benefit from an English-medium education.
作者: CHP 時間: 20-4-15 11:54
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-14 23:11
之前有講過，native speaking parents 有分加，雖然唔及 siblings, staff 同 nomination right 嘅 priorit ...
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-15 11:57
貝珠 發表於 20-4-14 23:28
Esf admission 有講過？Priority 應該係寫清楚官網的，係佢地電腦system set 好晒的，就叫priority 。
...
之前有個港台節目，訪問過 esf staff 關於 international school 收生問題，節目名唔記得，可以睇返。
可能我記錯？
但張 form 都有一 part 要填父母 language, 所以我記憶中係父母 language and nationality 係有關的。
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 20-4-15 12:10
The random number comes before nationality and language ability. If random number is bad, even native speaking child with native speaking parents will not be able to enter ESF, because no interview will be offered. Priority helps to bring one’s random number up but “native English speaker” itself does not give any priority at all, as 貝珠 said
作者: 貝珠 時間: 20-4-15 12:53
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-15 11:57
之前有個港台節目，訪問過 esf staff 關於 international school 收生問題，節目名唔記得，可以睇返。
可 ...
咁有冇考家長英文？我填form 寫native 就係native ? 咩叫native 咩叫fluent 呢？咁個個都寫native 啦
作者: gfkwong 時間: 20-4-15 13:37
mandy_ng207 發表於 20-4-15 12:10
The random number comes before nationality and language ability. If random number is bad, even nativ ...
Agreed. I know a friend whose son not yet started to speak at the time of interview. Small son born in November but still able to get esf k1 offer. Parents Cantonese speaking. No priority. Interview includes Chatting with parents but no need to be native.
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-15 14:03
貝珠 發表於 20-4-15 12:53
咁有冇考家長英文？我填form 寫native 就係native ? 咩叫native 咩叫fluent 呢？咁個個都寫native 啦
...
唔使咁激動，我都係 share 我所知的，我同你都唔係入面做，唔係 admin, 冇人知有幾多條 sub rule, 你估 random number 真係 random?
我識嘅 expat 個個想插班都即收（我唔係講緊幼稚園，講緊小學中學），咁點解佢地唔使排隊？我知佢地冇買 nomination right, 佢地外國長大都一定唔係 esf 舊生
作者: 貝珠 時間: 20-4-15 14:40
Expat 有foreign passport 也不等如係native English speakers
係native English speakers 也不等如有foreign passport
作者: RaindyCheuk 時間: 20-4-15 15:20 標題: 回覆樓主:
esf想要高priority, 買NR最穩陣， 一定有得in, 收唔收就睇小朋友表現
作者: lastpass 時間: 20-4-15 16:08 標題: 回覆樓主：
本帖最後由 lastpass 於 20-4-15 16:10 編輯
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.
樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼？金髮籃眼可以本地，黑髮亞洲面孔可以expat。
也要講插班基本條件係要有人退學先可以收一個插班生，所以“插班即收”這個theory我唔係好buy。
樓上是否講緊一些收生不足的esf 學校？ 咁也有可能性。但始終我也覺得是因為佢哋可以benefit from an English medium education，而唔係expat先收。
所以我覺得只因為係"expat即收”這個theory唔係好work。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 20-4-15 17:07
lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.
樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...
有聽過会預留一些位比年中外地派來港工作expat子女，但無詳細研究過
作者: harbeharbe 時間: 20-4-15 17:20
gfkwong 發表於 20-4-15 13:37
Agreed. I know a friend whose son not yet started to speak at the time of interview. Small son born ...
作者: gfkwong 時間: 20-4-15 18:30
是，我識得三個孩子也入到wks k1. 全部不是說流利英語。
作者: cnycny 時間: 20-4-15 22:08
今年嚟緊k1開始13年through train直升 , 多人報左
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-16 01:32
lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.
樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...
本帖最後由 都敏俊C 於 20-4-16 01:48 編輯
That’s not a theory, but just by observation from facts
No one knows the “real theory” behind the scene unless u r the staff and board of ESF.
So call transparent, do u really trust that they just follow the rules which shown on the website?
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-16 01:34
Just apply if u like the school, forget about whether you have priority or not, if u can’t enter this year, u are still on their waiting list, 2 years or 3 years, one day u must get a seat. Good luck
作者: pat1668pat 時間: 20-4-16 08:33
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-16 01:32
本帖最後由 都敏俊C 於 20-4-16 01:48 編輯
我都覺得有好大可能性大多數國際學校比外藉小朋友係有優先, 我小朋友去Nord面試,果輪大概20人其中只有一個外籍金頭髮小朋友,所有小朋友入左去面試時,個個家長係咁問個admission director 問題，佢好快回答完我地local家庭，馬上去同外藉家長講解學校detail,了解佢小朋友情況，sell佢學校好適合佢，etc..
到最後完面試，其他家長走曬，我留低問另外一個admission manager問題，個admission director巳經介紹個班主任比外籍家庭認識，所以真係有分別。
不過有分別都正常，國際學校原意都係比外藉來港人士去讀
作者: candybar123 時間: 20-4-16 08:48
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-16 01:34
Just apply if u like the school, forget about whether you have priority or not, if u can’t enter th ...
Although I don't know how it works.
For example, let's say someone with no priority is in waiting list and is no.1 in the waitlist.
Suddenly someone with priority applies (e.g. a staff's child, someone who needs to be in English medium class)
Does the other person with no priority gets bumped down?
But I also agree that if a person likes the school, should just apply. There is no chance unless one applies. A chance is a chance, no matter how low/high it is.
作者: candybar123 時間: 20-4-16 08:50
Also is ESF considered an international school? By EDB definition, an international school must have at least 70% of foreign passport holders. So if the school has low percentage of foreign passport holder, it might have to give priority to those with foreign passports to bring the percentage up.
作者: yohan 時間: 20-4-16 10:53 標題: 回覆樓主:
FYI, excerpt from Esf admissions policy in 2018:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.esf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Admissions-Policy-and-Procedures-for-Primary-and-Secondary-Schools-one-form-final-31-Aug18.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjc6rSt9-voAhXkw4sBHQd0CdMQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw31H-H_GB9rascMGa3O8Rm6&cshid=1587005546177
ESF Primary and Secondary Schools:
In line with the Hong Kong Education Bureau requirements, ESF shall admit students to school in accordance with the prevailing admission policy, including the overarching requirements to admit non-local students (those having foreign passports, excluding BNO) to no less than 70% of the overall student population of all schools operated by ESF.
ESF all-through Private Independent Schools (PIS)
Our Private Independent Schools, Discovery College (DC) and Renaissance
College (RCHK), provides an all-through education for primary and secondary
students in their respective campuses.
In line with the Hong Kong Government’s requirements for all Private Independent
Schools (PIS), both DC and RCHK have no catchment area: any student residing in
Hong Kong can apply to attend. When the Colleges are at full capacity, at least
70% of the total students enrolled must have Hong Kong permanent resident
status.
作者: aidan08 時間: 20-4-16 20:51
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-14 23:11
之前有講過，native speaking parents 有分加，雖然唔及 siblings, staff 同 nomination right 嘅 priorit ...
我自己覺得除了英文，ESF自己有套標準，覺得唔適合佢哋學校的學生會reject. 我見過美國人被reject, 見過幾個買咗NR的被reject, 見過Alumni 子女被reject, 也見過考到ISF而又英文好的小朋友被reject。
作者: aidan08 時間: 20-4-16 21:03
lastpass 發表於 20-4-15 16:08
其實我覺得esf admission policy 算係transparent.
樓上講緊expat想插班即收我有所保留。Expat定義是什麼 ...
作者: gfkwong 時間: 20-4-16 21:36
aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 20:51
呢個真係純屬傳聞，我係ESF家長，我仔喺Woodland 讀幼稚園，當時識得一對美國人夫婦，個仔係我仔Woodland的 ...
我有個朋友係比NR 去in 港島區某一間esf, 被reject ,原因唔係英文，係話佢哋性格唔適合佢嗰間小學，提議過佢哋考唔考慮另一間esf.最後我朋友去咗ISF.
作者: Osiana 時間: 20-4-17 00:21
aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 21:03
無錯，好簡單，我仔讀ESF year 1時，一入學有香港人也有外國人，開咗學幾日，有個澳洲男孩插班，同佢媽咪傾 ...
作者: 都敏俊C 時間: 20-4-18 19:05
aidan08 發表於 20-4-16 21:03
無錯，好簡單，我仔讀ESF year 1時，一入學有香港人也有外國人，開咗學幾日，有個澳洲男孩插班，同佢媽咪傾 ...
本帖最後由 都敏俊C 於 20-4-18 19:06 編輯
How can u get a seat in year 1?
邊一年報名？幼稚園直升？定係舊生or nomination right?
乜都冇嘅話，我身邊個個識得嘅人，都係 k2 報名，等2-4 年先有得 interview.
澳洲人幾時報係叫正常時間報名？
真心求學非 challenge
作者: aidan08 時間: 20-4-19 09:18
本帖最後由 aidan08 於 20-4-19 09:21 編輯
都敏俊C 發表於 20-4-18 19:05
本帖最後由 都敏俊C 於 20-4-18 19:06 編輯
How can u get a seat in year 1?
我仔08年出世，13年八月在ESF 小學開學，無記錯的話12年九月正常程序申請。不是舊生，大仔所以無sibling, 不是幼稚園直升，純抽獎，抽中然後in, in 完有offer. 無特別。我仔同班有唔少人係咁，我亦有幾個朋友係咁，只係有D in完無收，有D收咗。
澳洲人同我一樣。
不過補充一樣嘢，我仔有外國passport, 而以我所知，我仔D同學就算係local都大部分有外國passport.
作者: siuballma 時間: 20-4-21 16:34
gfkwong 發表於 20-4-16 21:36
我有個朋友係比NR 去in 港島區某一間esf, 被reject ,原因唔係英文，係話佢哋性格唔適合佢嗰間小學，提議過 ...
其實咩性格先適合佢間小學？
作者: gfkwong 時間: 20-4-21 16:38
siuballma 發表於 20-4-21 16:34
其實咩性格先適合佢間小學？
本身local 幼稚園上，性格唔係outgoing talkative.
作者: akevinla 時間: 20-5-20 16:21 標題: 回覆樓主:
英基80%都係香港人，點解唔入間真係有50%係外國人既國際學校。我真係唔覺間學校好。
作者: Samantha_Mex 時間: 20-5-21 02:44
識人小朋友無讀幼稚園，無買NR, 唯一有外國護照，interview 插班入到小一。
有護照同Local 係分開2條隊，所以有護照只係機會大啲有得Interview。
Interview 結果只有得同唔得，唔得就直接收reject , 得就收waiting, 再跟random number 排隊，有原校生走就call 你入。ESF 算公平。
作者: bighang 時間: 20-5-21 22:36
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多香港/中國人嘅學校，普遍公開試成績會好啲，亞洲人家長比較緊張成績，所以真係雞同雞蛋
最緊要培養小朋友同家長意願一樣，都冇話邊樣好啲
作者: mimibama 時間: 20-5-22 23:44
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Year 1 要 in 家長喎, 一聽就知系咪 native
作者: kingandi888 時間: 20-5-24 02:28
以前esf有外國護照係無priority. 請問 幾時外國護照開始有Priority?
作者: aidan08 時間: 20-5-24 03:21
bighang 發表於 20-5-21 22:36
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多香港/中國人嘅學校，普遍公開試成績會好啲，亞洲人家長比較緊張成績，所以真係雞 ...
唔係個個家長都喜歡外國人多的學校。
作者: bighang 時間: 20-5-24 09:09
aidan08 發表於 20-5-24 03:21
無錯，多香港人的學術上會較進取。英基唔係每一間都多香港人少外國人，要睇地區。以港島為例，山頂小學好多 ...
最完美係小學讀多外藉人學校，習慣多原文化；到中學之後再讀多亞洲人學校，考好成績，不過針冇兩頭利，有時讀得好間學校又多朋友仔又唔太想轉來轉去。
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