睇下呢條link同入面DSE考生和IB香港考生攞各級成績百份比便一清二楚,
https://www.hkptu.org/51053#more-51053
DSE考生平均每科攞5**只有1.3%, IB香港考生攞最高7級竟有24.1%!
有人話是因為讀IB學生較精英, 大學擇優取錄好合理, 但唔該用一用simple logic 和 common sense. 即使我當IB生全是BAND ONE 學生, 將DSE考生成績百份比放大三倍比較, DSE 考獲5**比例仍只有3.9%! 係IB考獲最高級成績仍是係DSE考獲最高級成績的6倍有多? 除非你信IB個pool的學生係優秀到平均等於BAND ONE A頭入面仲要最TOP個50%學生! 我唔信囉! 咪同我講唔同制度冇得比較或好難比較, 冇得比較就唔好安排爭入同一大學學位, 更應統一種考試, 若要容許考唔同試學生爭入同一批大學學位, 就唔該公平D, 客觀D, 科學D, 仔細D比較唔同考試深淺, 評分寛緊及標準. 如果唔係DSE首先玩完, 跟住IB因放水越來越離譜而沈淪, 以後米再拗DSE定IB深, 除非協會做假數據, IB事實係比DSE淺好多, 再唔係便是IB評分比DSE宽鬆好多
作者: poonseelai 時間: 18-9-19 20:30 標題: 回覆樓主：
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其實葉生列出課程dse生佔6-7成，咁都唔合理？我仍相信今年港大医係收唔夠dse生，而不是刻意收少D，今年5科考獲31分或以上少了100+人，這些最大基会考到港大医要求37分或以上
作者: freespeech 時間: 18-9-19 23:55
poonseelai 發表於 18-9-19 20:30 
其實葉生列出課程dse生佔6-7成，咁都唔合理？我仍相信今年港大医係收唔夠dse生，而不是刻意收少D，今年5科 ...
港大冇想過學生零選中大唔選佢，所以之前 誇下海口話耍收七成DSE， 點知衰咗
作者: MARXNG 時間: 18-9-20 00:27
佔6、7成合理？！My god 竟然仍有人唔肯直面數據，IB係比DSE淺、評分較寛鬆致大學對兩制學生收生比例嚴重不合理的事實
作者: poonseelai 時間: 18-9-20 00:56 標題: 回覆樓主：
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ib淺？請問又如何比較ib 的 tok, ee and cas? 這3項是ib core requirements, 任何一項不合格，即使其他6科取滿分亦拿不到ib diploma, 大部分大學都要求有 ib diploma。此外，大部分香港ib生考母語英語級別(dse仍是英文為2nd language)，考英文要求高科目如law, 医，global business 有利。所以葉先生作為教育界代表，不從整體去比較，只着眼個別科目合格率，不夠全面和帶有誤導。有家長share中大理科改制，electives有**, 3322不達標亦会考慮，改革dse不足才是正道，而不应該去限制他人。
作者: Norwood 時間: 18-9-20 13:45
These are the essay titles for May 2018:
1. “The fields of study of academic disciplines can overlap, but adopting interdisciplinary approaches to the production of knowledge leads only to confusion.” Discuss this claim.
2. “We know with confidence only when we know little; with knowledge doubt increases” (adapted from JW von Goethe). Discuss this statement with reference to two areas of knowledge.
3. “Without the assumption of the existence of uniformities there can be no knowledge.” Discuss this claim with reference to two areas of knowledge.
4. “Suspension of disbelief” is an essential feature of theatre. Is it essential in other areas of knowledge? Develop your answer with reference to two areas of knowledge.
5. “The quality of knowledge produced by an academic discipline is directly proportional to the duration of historical development of that discipline.” Explore this claim with reference to two disciplines.
6. “Robust knowledge requires both consensus and disagreement.” Discuss this claim with reference to two areas of knowledge.
作者: Norwood 時間: 18-9-20 13:47
要寫1500字的題目，對於中學生來說，絕對不容易
作者: poonseelai 時間: 18-9-20 13:58
Norwood 發表於 18-9-20 13:47
要寫1500字的題目，對於中學生來說，絕對不容易
這個只要tok, 仲有4000字ee
作者: Norwood 時間: 18-9-20 14:00
沒有深入了解，只是聽人說IB容易便去讀，大有人在，到時連IB diploma 都冇，怪得誰
作者: MARXNG 時間: 18-9-20 14:21
如果連數據都唔睇清楚，唔用思想去分析，我都唔知可以憑乜？數據唔全面(當然呢個世界冇完美嘅統計）又講唔出點唔全面，齋噴口水真係冇乜好拗。Tok, EE,cas都係花巧野，就好似公司的brochure 一樣，有幾堅我唸讀ib好清楚。唔睇數據大家都可以誠實地問自己幾個問題既，香港呢個社會功唔功利？讀ib嘅家長係米比較有米？有米嘅家長係米儍？你係有米嘅家長會唔推d仔囡去考一個比dse仲深仲難入大學嘅試？以前讀ib主要都係唸住預仔囡到外國留學，但慢慢發覺原來一個屈尾十報讀香港嘅大學有條捷徑，有米嘅米越來越多人讀lB囉
作者: ilyrd 時間: 18-9-20 14:33
預備開火都得喇,呢度好多好似國内呢两日响高鐵單新聞女乘客,有video,好好笑,剥大對眼大大聲話自己啱.仔女讀緊嗰樣,唔通話你啱咩,老虎都好似那女乘客.
作者: GGD 時間: 18-9-20 14:40
its a very interesting topic. I don't know much about the comparison between IB and DSE. It seems that the only argument to say IB is easier is that more people in HK can get good marks in IB, without much analysis on the exam papers, or the people who take the exam.
For completeness, i also set out below the topics for a DSE writing paper. I like these topics, at least i understand what they ask and what to write. honestly, it takes me a while to understand the topics for IB. And you only need to write 400 words on any of the topics.
Learning English through Sports Communication
You have been asked by Mr Wong, the teacher in charge of the school magazine, to produce an article about a
well-known sports star. You need to write an email to Mr Wong. In this email, suggest a sports star, explain what
would be included in the article and outline how you will make the article attractive to your schoolmates.
3. Learning English through Drama
You are reading Hamlet by William Shakespeare for drama class. In the play, Prince Hamlet avenged his father’s
murder by killing his uncle, Claudius. Your homework is to write a diary entry about a situation in which you
revenge an injustice.
4. Learning English through Social Issues
Your school is discussing joining the Direct Subsidy Scheme (DSS) which allows schools to freely decide on their
curriculum, fees and entrance requirements. However, the scheme has been criticised as benefiting the private
education sector and the well-off students at the expense of the public sector. Write a letter to the school Principal
to express your concerns and give three reasons why you oppose the school joining the scheme.
5. Learning English through Debating
Some people describe Hong Kong as a ‘city of protest’ because its people often take to the streets to show their
dissatisfaction towards the government. Write a letter to the editor of the Pan Lloyds Post about this. In your letter,
describe a protest that you think is unreasonable, outline the point of view of the protesters, and indicate why you
think those people are unreasonable.
6. Learning English through Workplace Communication
You are a human resources officer. Recently your boss has observed that the office is very untidy, and people are
not disposing of their rubbish properly so there is rubbish even in the aisles. He has asked you to write an article
for the company’s website describing the situation and discussing the negative effects. You have also been asked to
give two suggestions to improve the situation. Give a suitable title for your article.
7. Learning English through Popular Culture
Smartphones are increasing in popularity all over the world and are no longer appealing only to young people.
Write an article for your school newspaper explaining why smartphones are gaining popularity all over the world
among people of all ages. Give a title to your article.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 18-9-20 15:15
GGD 發表於 18-9-20 14:40
its a very interesting topic. I don't know much about the comparison between IB and DSE. It seems th ...
之前嗰份係tok題目，英文另有paper, 有時間会分享
作者: poonseelai 時間: 18-9-20 15:16
ilyrd 發表於 18-9-20 14:33
預備開火都得喇,呢度好多好似國内呢两日响高鐵單新聞女乘客,有video,好好笑,剥大對眼大大聲話自己啱.仔女讀 ...
你好似想買定花生咁 
作者: samsam123321 時間: 18-9-23 23:34
IB較DSE易, 有research 證明嗎？
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作者: chanbinga 時間: 18-9-25 21:51
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我考過DSE，同一年又考埋GCE AL，點解兩條都識做既? 又話好難既，我有冇睇錯呀，咁易既?
不過唔緊要啦，就算呢兩條完全唔識都一定拎到7.
Mathematics (HL) 拎7只需78-80%, chemistry 拎7就只係需要75%，洗唔洗識咁多呀?
https://www3.dpcdsb.org/STFXS/Documents/2017-05_grade_boundaries.pdf
我路過咋，你地繼續討論。
作者: wcu 時間: 18-9-26 01:25
chanbinga 發表於 18-9-25 21:51
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我考過DSE，同一年又考埋GCE AL，點解兩條都識做既? 又話好難既，我有冇睇錯呀 ...
本帖最後由 wcu 於 18-9-26 01:30 編輯
Chanbinga君
你能夠在同一年考dse和gce al
相信 學業上有一定成就
我自己 就對 samsam 123321 所貼出的題目冇一條識答啦
我為你非常高興
計一計年紀
我可能比你大30年以上
我大學本科畢業都已經有三十多年
睇咗你個貼文之後
有少少事不吐不快
就係你嗰句 “mathematics hl拎7只需78至80%， chemistry 只係需要 75%， 使唔使識咁多呀？”
你呢句令我耿耿於懷
求學問真係只求分數咩
如果 可以肯定攞到最高grade 其他的知識就不需要嗎
我哋唔係應該對智識 有好奇心嗎
老實講
如果小兒同我講同一番說話
我會好傷心
共勉
wcu
(PS: 如果你又路過， 覺得唔高興， 請通知 我delete咗佢)
作者: samsam123321 時間: 18-9-26 10:11
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Chanbinga君
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作者: wcu 時間: 18-9-26 10:18
samsam123321 發表於 18-9-26 10:11
其實我係李嘉x,相對論都係愛恩斯坦抄我，我一早就識。講之麻。寫埋答案出來先算拉。係英文果篇呀 ...
我個人比較單純
我信佢真係識
不過我希望啲年輕人 學習態度更加好
作者: samsam123321 時間: 18-9-26 10:22
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