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作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-15 15:58 標題: 傳統學校轉校讀IB 問意見

大家好!
現時我兩個小朋友都讀傳統小學(津校)，經歷咗兩年極之繁忙的小學生涯，發現傳統教學原來同我地既年代一樣，缺乏比小朋友有發揮創意空間。另一方面，去聽咗一些直資IB學校的講座，好認同佢地既方向(不過實際讀係點?真係唔知) 。上黎想問下各位意見，特別係由傳統學校轉校去IB school的家長, 究竟IB實際讀會係點? 我的小朋友適合嗎? 希望有過來人分享一下及比意見。

背景:
大仔有ADD(及疑似高功能自閉症), 現小二, 書不離手, 中英文閱讀能力高, 成績中上。學校無乜friends, 呢兩年的班主任都明白佢情況, 對佢體諒, 但一班太多人始終未必顧到咁多。做野易分心。

細仔現小一, 都鍾意睇書, 但閱讀能力一般, 數感好, 轉數快, 鍾意做手工, 畫畫, 有創意, 但現時學校無乜空間比佢發揮, 學生較多friends, 未考試未知成績, 但暫時讀書都可跟上。自理能力佳, 做功課好有效率。

作者: assado 時間: 17-12-16 04:22 標題: 回覆樓主:

IB 都吾係容易讀。

作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-16 07:44

assado 發表於 17-12-16 04:22
IB 都吾係容易讀。

讀到IB的小朋友，性格會有乜野特點？

作者: yamin 時間: 17-12-16 07:59

kichinto 發表於 17-12-15 15:58
大家好!
現時我兩個小朋友都讀傳統小學(津校)，經歷咗兩年極之繁忙的小學生涯，發現傳統教學原來同我地既 ...

樓主都可以去國際學校果版問下用家意見。

作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-16 08:06

yamin 發表於 17-12-16 07:59
樓主都可以去國際學校果版問下用家意見。

謝謝意見，等我都去問下

作者: MrBeast 時間: 17-12-18 20:04

kichinto 發表於 17-12-16 07:44
讀到IB的小朋友，性格會有乜野特點？

以我limited 理解，自主學習。
有冇諗過幾間hk ib 成績好的學校，小學初中都是傳統課程

作者: AndrewHo_FB 時間: 17-12-18 22:54

IB 一點也不容易讀.

第1, 英文要勁好(鬼仔級數).
第2, 小朋友的轉數要快, 自發能力要高.
第3, 父母要有extra money, 替小朋友找一些有錢都不太容易找到的 IB 補習老師 (ie $800 per hour but always full).
第4, 要花時間做 charity 及 leadership.

以下是今年 Year 13 的 essay 題目.

2018 IB ToK (Theory of knowledge) Essay topics:

Topic 1. Are interdisciplinary approaches to knowledge confusing?
Topic 2. More knowledge increases doubt. (Goethe quote)
Topic 3. Knowledge requires an assumption of uniformity.
Topic 4. Suspension of disbelief is essential to knowledge.
Topic 5. Historical duration of disciplines of knowledge.
Topic 6. Robust knowledge requires both concensus and disagreement.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-12-19 08:18

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-18 22:54
IB 一點也不容易讀.

第1, 英文要勁好(鬼仔級數).

搬d題目出嚟都冇用，就算深，不代表答案是自己做，這不是堂上功課及測驗！

可以要做，老師一路跟學生的思路，但有為數不少的lS及LS學生是有搵人作或者改過篇 essay 才交！所以只計 bonus，而非直接計分！

作者: retriever 時間: 17-12-19 10:36

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-18 22:54
IB 一點也不容易讀.

第1, 英文要勁好(鬼仔級數).

英文要好當然，仲要唔討厭寫好多野。

但係咪難讀就好難講。

我聽到由傳統辛苦轉去讀IB 都係出好成績。

作者: AndrewHo_FB 時間: 17-12-19 10:39

本帖最後由 AndrewHo_FB 於 17-12-19 11:07 編輯

ANChan59 發表於 17-12-19 08:18
搬d題目出嚟都冇用，就算深，不代表答案是自己做，這不是堂上功課及測驗！

可以要做，老師一路跟學生的思 ...

Take home exam is never easy. The questions asked can be borderless, and the examiners should have already taken into account that the students will get external help or "group work". And also taken account into "答案不是自己做".

And beware the kids are only Year 13 students, their minds are still fresh no matter what. And don't trust after many years of IB training, the kids can turn impossible into possible.

In my relative's school, the IB teacher provided no guidance on these topics.

The kids were allowed for 1 month's time to complete one of the topics worldwide. I am sure many parents did involve into the topics at the back end. But the outcome was, only 3 students could complete the 1st draft on time in the whole class but regardless of the quality. And the teacher would only mark what had been submitted before the deadline.

Or, the parents' involvement is not much use in these topics. So, do prepare to meet many many of the challenges if taking the IB courses.

But if doing DSE in HK, you can find various of resources very easily, handy and cheap.

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-12-19 13:27

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-19 10:39
Take home exam is never easy. The questions asked can be borderless, and the examiners should have ...

Taken into account 答案不是自己做？

唔係咁得人驚呀！咩學校有咁既問題？

作者: poonseelai 時間: 17-12-19 19:52

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-19 10:39
Take home exam is never easy. The questions asked can be borderless, and the examiners should have ...

你意思係其他人無交，tok 完全無分？如果真係只得一個月做就學校安排好有問題。我問過孩子，dp第二年一開始要選題目，草擬大綱同老師傾，first draft , then final draft。每個程序也有死線，由選題到final draft肯定超過一個月。

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-12-19 21:35

poonseelai 發表於 17-12-19 19:52
你意思係其他人無交，tok 完全無分？如果真係只得一個月做就學校安排好有問題。我問過孩子，dp第二年一開 ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-12-20 08:26 編輯

阿女學校老早已討論EE題目。已經思考緊。

作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-20 12:41

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-19 10:39
Take home exam is never easy. The questions asked can be borderless, and the examiners should have ...

謝謝分享! 想請教IBDP會唔會適合女仔讀多啲，因為男仔作文未必咁叻，諗野又未必似同年紀女仔成熟？DSE反而可集中讀理科

作者: RunningPig 時間: 17-12-20 12:54 標題: 回覆樓主:

其實 IB 通常係講緊高中課程。由初小到高中用 IB 的學校唔多。

作者: RunningPig 時間: 17-12-20 12:56 標題: 回覆樓主:

你話你去左聽直資 IB 學校，可以講邊幾間?

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-12-20 13:23

kichinto 發表於 17-12-20 12:41
謝謝分享! 想請教IBDP會唔會適合女仔讀多啲，因為男仔作文未必咁叻，諗野又未必似同年紀女仔成熟？DSE反而 ...

你以為lB校少男生？

作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-20 13:27

shadeslayer 發表於 17-12-20 13:23
你以為lB校少男生？

未睇過數據，唔知

作者: kichinto 時間: 17-12-20 13:28

RunningPig 發表於 17-12-20 12:56
你話你去左聽直資 IB 學校，可以講邊幾間?

元朗區宏信

作者: 靜靜媽 時間: 17-12-20 14:07

kichinto 發表於 17-12-20 13:28
元朗區宏信

請看pm

作者: AndrewHo_FB 時間: 17-12-20 17:57

本帖最後由 AndrewHo_FB 於 17-12-20 17:59 編輯

poonseelai 發表於 17-12-19 19:52
你意思係其他人無交，tok 完全無分？如果真係只得一個月做就學校安排好有問題。我問過孩子，dp第二年一開 ...

Not sure what will happen if the students fail to submit the 1st draft on time. I think it will be complicated if the students can submit the 2nd draft in the case they missed the 1st draft. Anyway, only 3 students in the class can meet the 1st draft deadline and that is the fact. Students should go to the 3rd draft before the final.

So, should not take any risk to delay the 1st draft. Must use ALL your efforts and resources to do the thing right and on time.

The school teachers only follow the deadline fm the IB organization worldwide, and I don't think the school teachers have any right to delay the essay.

And not all the local IB schools will discuss how to approach the topics.

BTW, the submission of the tok topics may or may not be important at this stage, and it depends on your goals and strategy.

Year 13 students are applying their overseas universities right now. Some universities only need the "predicted" IB scores and will give offers in the coming few months, and some universities already gave offers some months ago.

Once they students get the offers, the final IB scores are not important at all. But I agree to play safe, students should at least to get a PASS in every assignment.

So, it is another important game with strategy to have high score in the "predicted IB score", and in many of the cases, the "predicted score" is far far more important than the "actual score". For example, in some departments of the universities in HK, they accept "predicted scores" but not necessary the "actual scores".

However, some universities only give "conditional offers" based on the "predicted IB scores", which may need the students to meet certain criteria in the final IB before the final offers.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 17-12-20 18:18

AndrewHo_FB 發表於 17-12-20 17:57
Not sure what will happen if the students fail to submit the 1st draft on time. I think it will be ...

Most, if not all, of uk and hk offers are conditional, so final ib grades are important.

作者: AndrewHo_FB 時間: 17-12-20 19:19

本帖最後由 AndrewHo_FB 於 17-12-20 19:19 編輯

poonseelai 發表於 17-12-20 18:18
Most, if not all, of uk and hk offers are conditional, so final ib grades are important.

At least 1 department in the local universities of HK do gives offer or conditional offer or no offer in coming Jan, depends on the interview and his predicted scores.

My cousin just had the interview and waiting for the result. It was a 10min - 20min interview. He saw some candidates from CKY.

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