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作者: Applepp123 時間: 17-11-7 14:32 標題: 關於ESF KINDER 嘅Play visit
請問play visit 同小朋友&家長傾計主要會圍繞啲咩問題？己經去左school Tour 雖然未收到invitation 但想早少少凖備，有少少緊張自己表現唔好影響小朋友⋯
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-7 14:58
Applepp123 發表於 17-11-7 14:32 
請問play visit 同小朋友&家長傾計主要會圍繞啲咩問題？己經去左school Tour 雖然未收到invitation 但想早 ...
For wks campus, 必問
1. What is you home language?
2. How do you support your child learning in eng medium?
3. Who is the main caretaker of ur child?
Teacher will ask you to interact with your child and they observe.
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-7 15:13
Be honest. For those non native English parents, pls think about if you should insist that you speak only English with your child at home. I have raised out this last year in EK and there was a debate.
作者: 何B仔Adrian 時間: 17-11-7 16:10
貝珠 發表於 17-11-7 15:13
Be honest. For those non native English parents, pls think about if you should insist that you speak ...
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 17-11-7 17:05
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Hi, would you mind sharing the link to the discussion again? You may pm me if that's easier for you. Thank you!
作者: ddbb0099 時間: 17-11-7 18:27
Applepp123 發表於 17-11-7 14:32
請問play visit 同小朋友&家長傾計主要會圍繞啲咩問題？己經去左school Tour 雖然未收到invitation 但想早 ...
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作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-7 19:18
mandy_ng207 發表於 17-11-7 17:05
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Hi, would you mind sharing the link to the discussion again? You may pm me if that ...
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作者: 964000 時間: 17-11-7 21:19
貝珠 發表於 17-11-7 15:13
Be honest. For those non native English parents, pls think about if you should insist that you speak ...
Maybe I can share my experience, we spoke only English before 2.5 years old, since then daddy spoke Cantonese and I spoke mostly English. And once 3.5 years we switched to almost all Cantonese at home. Now my daughter is native and fluent in both English and Cantonese at 4.5 years old. We introduced Cantonese once we felt her English was pretty secure at first, then we thought she could learn enough from school we just spoke Cantonese at home, that facilitates home teaching of Chinese too. Her best friend at same age who mainly speaks English at home shows sign of refusing to speak Chinese now. Studies have shown it Is possible to achieve native levels in both languages if introduced early. So may as we’ll grasp the opportunity!
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 17-11-8 11:21
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I think it really depends on the kid, my experience tell me that kids do have a preferred language. We are a local family that speaks Cantonese at home. Unfortunately, my son's main carer (my parents-in-law) are Indonesian-Chinese who speak poor Cantonese. They use Cantonese to communicate but watch Putonghua TV at home. My son starts watching youtube at 1.5 years old and is really indulged in it. Since his carer knows a little English, they start teaching him in English (the numbers, colours, etc). My son changed to IS at 3 years old and he's pretty fluent in English now. He prefers English right at the beginning, and his Cantonese is always poor (difficult to express himself and with poor pronounciation too), although Cantonese is the main language of communication in my family (we have no maid at home). My friends' kids tend to prefer Cantonese when they watch TV or communicate with others, even if they have a Filipino maid at home. ESF kinder provides a good English environment but help from parents is needed to help the child to adapt. I speak 80% English to my son now, but if there's somthing he doesn't understand I would repeat in Cantonese again. His English is still fluent. So no worries moms, be true to yourself, try your best but don't be stubborn.
作者: 964000 時間: 17-11-8 12:27
mandy_ng207 發表於 17-11-8 11:21
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I think it really depends on the kid, my experience tell me that kids do have a ...
My experience is boys are less likely to speak both languages and girls are easier to pick up. Many parents express the same when they have two kids one boy and one girl, usually the girl is more likely to speak Cantonese and English and the boy only speaks English . Also the attitude of the main carer is a determinant factor too and one need to start early. I think I am a bit lucky my daughter can still pick up canto at 2-3 years old. We have a bit of struggle initially but looking back it still worths it. My two cents is just try your best at early stage cuz the later the more difficult to pick up Cantonese.
作者: lovecasey 時間: 17-11-8 16:54
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agree and exactly is my case. my daughter is the elder one who can communicate in both Chinese and English, while my son doesnt speak a word in Chinese even when I talk to him in Chinese.
作者: 何B仔Adrian 時間: 17-11-8 18:02
I trend to believe language talent depends on individual kids, not depends on gender. At first, I believe girls are more talkaive and able to manage bilingual better than boys, which many examples tell me so. When my litte girl borned, she broke my believe. My case is:
Elder son:
April baby. Before age of 3, he lived with grandparents, no Filipino maid, 100% cantonese & 0% English at home. He started K1 at IS kinder (non ESF) and moved back to live with us. At that time, I have no intention to talk with him in English, we keep using Cantonese. His teacher said he was reluctant to speak in English. But then, he adapted English environment at school well from K2 and no more complain from school about his English since then. He is Y5 now, though he prefers to speak in English, he has no problem to understand and express himself in Cantonese (dare not to comment on his Chinese reading & writing 
).
Younger daughter:
Dec baby. Before age of 2, daddy 100% cantonese, mammy & brother 100% English, Filipino maid, ESF kinder. At that time, she was able to understand what daddy said, but she replied in English (not surprise). I struggled a lot whether I should keep on communicating with her in English. Since she's a small b, she's always behind the pace of her classmates, and she trends to have better understanding in English (though relatively weak when compare with her classmates), and most of all, she needed to compete with other dragon bs for a Y1 place (no siblings priority in ESF), thus I keep on using English. Now, she's Y1 at RCHK, I need to put 200% effort to help her Chinese in order to keep her staying in pathway 2. T T
Conclusion: I agreed someone above said: "think about if you should insist that you speak only English with your child at home". To give up Chinese is easy, to pick up Chinese again is "sometimes" painful (it really depends on the kid).
I just share my case, no intension of offence.
作者: s7824 時間: 17-11-8 19:14
Applepp123 發表於 17-11-7 14:32
請問play visit 同小朋友&家長傾計主要會圍繞啲咩問題？己經去左school Tour 雖然未收到invitation 但想早 ...
Which campus did you apply? I got invitation from Tsing Yi campus yesterday
作者: Drewdrewchan 時間: 17-11-9 09:42
s7824 發表於 17-11-8 19:14
Which campus did you apply? I got invitation from Tsing Yi campus yesterday
You applied for K1? I thought there won't be any interview status notification email until mid-December. Would you share with us your interview date? Thanks.
作者: ZackMama 時間: 17-11-9 09:56
貝珠 發表於 17-11-7 14:58
For wks campus, 必問
1. What is you home language?
2. How do you support your child learning in en ...
本帖最後由 ZackMama 於 17-11-9 10:00 編輯
I remember they also asked me why I chose this kindie
作者: s7824 時間: 17-11-9 19:42
Drewdrewchan 發表於 17-11-9 09:42
You applied for K1? I thought there won't be any interview status notification email until mid-Dec ...
Which campus did u apply? Did u apply K1 too?
作者: Atecila 時間: 17-11-10 12:13
何B仔Adrian 發表於 17-11-8 18:02
I trend to believe language talent depends on individual kids, not depends on gender. At first, I b ...
Thanks soooo much for this sharing - very helpful indeed!! Also thanks 964000 and Mandy for their wonderful sharing as well! Just spot on - am at the stage where am struggling whether to change bto speaking Cantonese to my little boy. He will be 2 years old next month and so far my husband speaks in Cantonese to him while I speak in English and we have a Filipino helper but His primary care taker is grandpa who speaks Cantonese. He is a late bloomer and hasn't talked yet except pa pa , mama , bi bi , ye ye, - which I guess is Cantonese. So speech somehow delayed .... not sure if I should change back to speaking cantonese first so that he started talking faster. In terms of comprehension , he is able to understand both English and Cantonese well....
作者: Applepp123 時間: 17-11-10 13:00
s7824 發表於 17-11-8 19:14
Which campus did you apply? I got invitation from Tsing Yi campus yesterday
WKS Campus. You mean the invitation of School Tour?
作者: Drewdrewchan 時間: 17-11-10 18:53
s7824 發表於 17-11-9 19:42
Which campus did u apply? Did u apply K1 too?
作者: s7824 時間: 17-11-10 19:22
Applepp123 發表於 17-11-10 13:00
WKS Campus. You mean the invitation of School Tour?
Not sch tour, it’s a play visit
作者: s7824 時間: 17-11-10 19:23
Drewdrewchan 發表於 17-11-10 18:53
Hillside campus for K1. U already received invitation for play visit?
Yes...
作者: lovalovaa 時間: 17-11-10 22:15
i applied for hillside too..I didn't get any invitation from esf yet, playlist invitation means getting a higher chance for interview? I only speak English to my son n my husband speaks English n also Cantonese. My son is 2 now speaks fluent English n a bit Cantonese. Anyone knows their screening criterias? As we're a local bilingual family, dont see any priorities here....
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-10 23:14
lovalovaa 發表於 17-11-10 22:15
i applied for hillside too..I didn't get any invitation from esf yet, playlist invitation means gett ...
I believe they did not do screening with those information in the application form. But in previous years, hillside did not offer playvisit to all applicants. Only those with good random numbers will be offer playvisit. Did u call them to ask?
作者: lovalovaa 時間: 17-11-11 00:28
貝珠 發表於 17-11-10 23:14
I believe they did not do screening with those information in the application form. But in previous ...
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-11 01:24
lovalovaa 發表於 17-11-11 00:28
I didn't , once I email them to enquiry about the waiting number, they said they cannot provide this ...
Mail lost ? Just ask them to make sure mail lost is ruled out
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-11 01:38
In case you are not offered a play visit in this moment due to poor random number, it is also too early to ask where do u stand on the waitlist. It is because the play visit is in Jan, and offer will only be out in Feb. They really can't tell in this moment.
作者: 未央 時間: 17-11-11 09:38
Applepp123 發表於 17-11-7 14:32
請問play visit 同小朋友&家長傾計主要會圍繞啲咩問題？己經去左school Tour 雖然未收到invitation 但想早 ...
We received play visit invitation, it is said that this would be a preliminary visit, any implications for "preliminary"? Does anyone know if there is any difference between preliminary visit and play visit? We speak Cantonese at home, so my boy understands very little in English. That worries us. TIA
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 17-11-11 13:02
未央 發表於 17-11-11 09:38
We received play visit invitation, it is said that this would be a preliminary visit, any implicati ...
Hi may I ask which campus did you apply? I have applied for WKS but did not receive any kind of play visit invitation
作者: 未央 時間: 17-11-11 14:36
luckyveronique 發表於 17-11-11 13:02
Hi may I ask which campus did you apply? I have applied for WKS but did not receive any kind of pla ...
Of course! It's Abacus.
作者: boolove2013 時間: 17-11-12 22:58 標題: 回覆樓主:
We have received an invitation for play visit in December at the Tsing Yi campus.
作者: lovalovaa 時間: 17-11-13 02:21
So anyone knows for those who got invited to play visit, they will invite for a formal interview later on? So to say, the chance is slim if we don't hv any inviataion from them?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-13 07:07
lovalovaa 發表於 17-11-13 02:21
So anyone knows for those who got invited to play visit, they will invite for a formal interview lat ...
Play visit = interview.
作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-11-13 10:00
未央 發表於 17-11-11 14:36
Of course! It's Abacus.
Did you know the date for the play visit already? I just got an email from abacus stating that play visits will be arranged in dec and jan but no exact dates were given.
作者: 未央 時間: 17-11-13 10:01
Katherinee 發表於 17-11-13 10:00
Did you know the date for the play visit already? I just got an email from abacus stating that play ...
Yes, Dec 5th.
作者: 好運馬 時間: 17-11-13 16:10 標題: 回覆樓主：
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My two friends got the letter to have "play visit" on 15 Dec but I still haven't got the letter yet. So I called to Tsing Yi ESF and School replied 15 Dec playvisit is for ESF's siblings and kids who were born between Jan and Mar 2015. for other applicants, School will arrange another playvisit in late Jan 2018.
作者: jedi.lala 時間: 17-11-13 23:59
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Invitation for priority playvisit received for my youngest daughter (my eldest son in esf primary). She is a March15 baby. But why are they inviting only Jan to Mar kids with priority only?
作者: boolove2013 時間: 17-11-14 13:11
好運馬 發表於 17-11-13 16:10
My two friends got the letter to have "play visit" on 15 Dec but I still haven't got the letter yet. ...
my son is a September baby but we have alumni priority
作者: DCbabe 時間: 17-11-14 13:26
貝珠 發表於 17-11-7 19:18
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Would u please pm to me as well ? Appreciate
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-11-14 14:30
The general practice is, they would arrange play visits (interviews) in December for applicants who have some form of priority, i.e. sibling, alumni etc, and then more play visits in January for the rest. Invitations for December play visits are sent around now, while those for January will be sent later in December.
So if your child is a general applicant without priority, it is normal that you won't hear from the kindergarten until next month.
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-14 17:28
DCbabe 發表於 17-11-14 13:26
Hi hi
Would u please pm to me as well ? Appreciate
Could you please pm me as well? Thanks very much
作者: Fre12 時間: 17-11-20 18:21
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Hi would u mind pm the link to me? Or post the link here if it is easier for u (as I saw a few parent also interested)Many thanks!
作者: andersmama 時間: 17-11-21 13:51
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-11-14 14:30
The general practice is, they would arrange play visits (interviews) in December for applicants who ...
Hillside priority list play visit is in mid of Jan r...
作者: Evelyn831 時間: 17-11-21 14:03
I also received Jan play visit invitation from Hillside, but the letter says we are on the reserve list.
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 14:29
Evelyn831 發表於 17-11-21 14:03
I also received Jan play visit invitation from Hillside, but the letter says we are on the reserve l ...
Is it purely random whether we will get a guaranteed place or on reserved list after interview?
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-11-21 14:47
andersmama 發表於 17-11-21 13:51
Hillside priority list play visit is in mid of Jan r...
作者: andersmama 時間: 17-11-21 15:07
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-11-21 14:47
The actual date might vary from one ESF kindergarten to another, but the idea is the same, they will ...
Yes, true.
作者: Evelyn831 時間: 17-11-21 16:29
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Yes, my understanding it's like a lucky draw to determine the random no.
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 20:11
Evelyn831 發表於 17-11-21 16:29
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Yes, my understanding it's like a lucky draw to determine the random no.
Sad to hear that...
作者: andersmama 時間: 17-11-21 21:55
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 14:29
Is it purely random whether we will get a guaranteed place or on reserved list after interview?
They issued different kind of emails with different wordings...
作者: andersmama 時間: 17-11-21 22:01
貝珠 發表於 17-11-10 23:14
I believe they did not do screening with those information in the application form. But in previous ...
True, i heard some parents said they received emails:
1) play visit invitation for observe and ask questions before offering a place (priority category)
2) play visit invitation
3) play visit invitation with “may not be able to provide immediate place”
4) not be able to offer play visit
5) there is a post mentioned on “reserved list”
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 22:13
andersmama 發表於 17-11-21 22:01
True, i heard some parents said they received emails:
1) play visit invitation for observe and ask ...
Except priority which is understandable, how do ESF categorize the remaining candidates? Purely random is not convincing ...
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-21 22:39
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 22:13
Except priority which is understandable, how do ESF categorize the remaining candidates? Purely ran ...
So, in what way do you feel is convincing ? Even the admission to year one adopt random number system.
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 22:42
貝珠 發表於 17-11-21 22:39
So, in what way do you feel is convincing ? Even the admission to year one adopt random number syst ...
Exactly, heard about this primary lottery too. IMHO at least for the ones that ESF cannot differentiate before interview, at least give everybody equal opportunity..?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-21 22:59
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 22:42
Exactly, heard about this primary lottery too. IMHO at least for the ones that ESF cannot different ...
Esf is a non selective school. That's mean anyone pass the interview ( mainly focus in eng standard and appropriate social skill ) , they will get admitted according to random number. They are not aiming to select students with higher ability. Otherwise, it is just similar to local kinder which select "big B" , talkative baby. Should we embrace this system ?
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 23:07
貝珠 發表於 17-11-21 22:59
Esf is a non selective school. That's mean anyone pass the interview ( mainly focus in eng standard ...
Agree with you and every system has pros and cons. I haven’t got the “categorized” letter yet, just wondering what I will feel if I see my baby can only be placed on “reserved list” even before interview 
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-21 23:12
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 23:07
Agree with you and every system has pros and cons. I haven’t got the “categorized” letter yet, j ...
I believe you have applied wks campus, wks will interview all applicants. You will never know your random number. And no "categorise" letter will be sent out. I have only heard hillside will let applicants send out 3 types of letters, normal play visit , playvisit (reserve list) , and no playvisit can be offered
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 23:14
貝珠 發表於 17-11-21 23:12
I believe you have applied wks campus, wks will interview all applicants. You will never know your ...
Ah thanks, yes I applied to WKS. So you mean WKS will just send play visit invitation letter to everybody without “categorizing” them beforehand?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-11-21 23:25
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 23:14
Ah thanks, yes I applied to WKS. So you mean WKS will just send play visit invitation letter to eve ...
You can say so, but random number system is more or less the same as categorise as reserve list or guaranteed list before interview
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 23:26
貝珠 發表於 17-11-21 23:25
You can say so, but random number system is more or less the same as categorise as reserve list or ...
That’s true... anyway not easy to get in
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 17-11-21 23:34
yysophia 發表於 17-11-21 23:26
That’s true... anyway not easy to get in
They have already sent out invitations to whom with priority
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-21 23:35
luckyveronique 發表於 17-11-21 23:34
They have already sent out invitations to whom with priority
I see... no priority for me 
作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-11-22 09:36
Got the invitation for play visit from abacus but there are no status such as on reserved list or do in the email
作者: ckml 時間: 17-11-22 09:40
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I recalled that the invitation we received 2 years ago also did not state anything about priority (my boy is in K2 with Abacus now).
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-22 12:15
Katherinee 發表於 17-11-22 09:36
Got the invitation for play visit from abacus but there are no status such as on reserved list or do ...
May I know whether you have priority or not? I still haven’t got the invitation letter yet...
作者: pat1668pat 時間: 17-11-22 12:26
Katherinee 發表於 17-11-22 09:36
Got the invitation for play visit from abacus but there are no status such as on reserved list or do ...
Me2, where can I find if I am on reserve or not?
作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-11-22 14:29
yysophia 發表於 17-11-22 12:15
May I know whether you have priority or not? I still haven’t got the invitation letter yet...
Did u apply abacus? I think different campus may send out emails in different times. I dun hv any priority btw
作者: Valerie_bb 時間: 17-11-22 14:48
本帖最後由 Valerie_bb 於 17-11-22 14:55 編輯
Each campus arrange things differently and they send out email in different time.
e.g. TY and TC interview all applicants where Abacus & Hillside do not. (I think last year Abacus also interviewed all, not 100% sure)
There should be 1 type of interview notification letter for TY & TC as they invite all applicants for interview.
For those applied hillside, there should be 2 type of letters. One is invite for interview and another is "waitlist", means no interview.
There should be no "Reserved List" for kindergarten. The 3 types of interview notification "Guarantee/Reserved/Waitlist" is only applicable to ESF Foundation schools, not PIS, not Kindergarten.
After being interviewed, there are 3 types of letters:
1. Offer a place or
2. passed but put on waitlist or
3. reject
Maybe there is no "waitlist" result letter from Hillside. However "passed but put on waitlist" is not the same as "waitlist without interview".
I hope this helps.
作者: ZackMama 時間: 17-11-22 15:56
Valerie_bb 發表於 17-11-22 14:48
Each campus arrange things differently and they send out email in different time.
e.g. TY and TC int ...
This was what I thought but check this out:
http://www.esf.edu.hk/kindergartens-apply
Under the key dates, it mentioned that parents may receive one of the 3 different interview notification letters
作者: Valerie_bb 時間: 17-11-22 16:20
maybe things have changed this year. thanks for correcting me.
作者: yysophia 時間: 17-11-22 16:43
Katherinee 發表於 17-11-22 14:29
Did u apply abacus? I think different campus may send out emails in different times. I dun hv any p ...
Thanks for your info. I applied WKS, so yeah, letters might get sent out at different times... good luck to your child!
作者: andersmama 時間: 17-11-23 18:26
ZackMama 發表於 17-11-22 15:56
This was what I thought but check this out:
http://www.esf.edu.hk/kindergartens-apply
本帖最後由 andersmama 於 17-11-23 18:30 編輯
Hillside do have 4 types of emails that i know so far.
1) invitation for those with priority
2) invitation for those without priority
3) invitation for those without priority and “may not be able to provide immediate place”
4) no play visit can be offered at this moment
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