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標題: 椅底設儲物格 港大生空中巴士創意賽奪冠 [打印本頁]
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-1 07:49 標題: 椅底設儲物格 港大生空中巴士創意賽奪冠
【明報專訊】Emily每次上飛機，前面總係有人擺好耐行李，又或者霸晒成個行李架，搞到其他人無位擺。香港有班大學生就諗到善用客機椅底位置，令乘客多咗位擺嘢。同學仔嘅設計唔單止聰明，仲攞咗法國空中巴士公司同聯合國教科文組織合辦嘅國際大型航空創意比賽「Fly Your Ideas」冠軍！
呢班讀香港大學機械工程系三年級嘅同學話，搭飛機時成日要等人放行李，咁啱團隊入面有人喺本地航空維修公司實習時，發現客機椅底下有空位，於是諗到喺座位下面整個30公升容量嘅長方形私人儲物格，增加乘客儲物空間。
隊員羅觀宇話，儲物格用防火嘅蜂窩狀物料製成，減輕重量，乘客只需按下解鎖掣後，儲物格就識自動升起，乘客可以擺放唔超過5公斤重嘅行李，格入面有塊鏡，方便觀察有無遺留物品。另一同學李建榮話儲物格仲可以拉出嚟，方便清潔。
按掣自動彈出 可放5公斤行李
呢次係第一次有香港學生喺比賽中奪冠，同學仔話決賽喺法國進行，好多資料要到間公司先拎到，得3至4日整模型，差唔多晚晚通頂。不過努力有回報，法國空中巴士公司話想進一步睇吓佢哋嘅研究，話唔定有一日飛機會有咁嘅裝置！
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-1 07:51 標題: 回覆樓主
簡單又實用的設計理念，不用什麼都要加上創新科技，old tech 都可以好有用！
作者: Cheeselover 時間: 17-6-2 07:22 標題: 回覆樓主
確實是好設計，希望告訴大家，香港還有很多有頭有腦的年青人。題外話一道，設計未必獲每家航空公司歡迎，現時航空公司對乘客手提行李多限制，保安是一理由，更多的是乘客多帶一公斤重量，航空公司則耗多些燃料，所以航空公司都千方百計對手提行李限量限重，個個扛多一包米上機，一程旅程不知多耗多少燃料。設計幫不了航空公司省錢，他們難接受。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-2 07:47
Cheeselover 發表於 17-6-2 07:22 
確實是好設計，希望告訴大家，香港還有很多有頭有腦的年青人。題外話一道，設計未必獲每家航空公司歡迎，現 ...
你提出擔心有些營運及商業道理，但我都飛不少，我看到特別是內陸航線，我有另外的觀察。
因為乘客貪方便及不用寄艙費用手拖喼。所以客艙上靣的行李空間不足夠，於是會在登機中途要乘客行李臨時寄艙，會延遲飛機起非時間。
這個設計，可以讓乘客將隨身攜帶的手袋及背囊放在椅子，一來防止空中老鼠，二來增加寄存空間，三來加快登機速度。
在航空公司是零和遊戲，不在客艙內，就在貨艙，縂重量是一樣！
由於設計比賽是空中巴士，我估計他們會引入於新型號客機，是有買點，善用空間及提高擕身物品的安全性，亦避免行李膸便將輕便行李放在椅下，當有擾亂氣流時，可能引發雜物亂飛，航空安全也相應提高！
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-2 11:51
發現每個坐位有三十公升可用空間，係一個吸引嘅亮點。
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-2 13:48 標題: 回覆樓主
我相信空中巴士選得出嚟，可行性理應是十分重要的評分指標，我反而覺得會成功！
香港現在的年輕人是被不少成年人打擊及打殘，冇創意闹冇創意，有創意又百彈斎主，究竟年輕人要怎樣做，才可以成器？！
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-2 14:34 標題: 回覆樓主
在国內，我放不到相片及設計圖，上網搜尋一下，再作討論！
Think out of the box, paradigm shift 就是要打破 silo effect.
最近演講會中介紹了兩個創新產品(概念到銷售有三四年了)，都是好簡單，只是冇乜人去想，去試，兩個都是外行人打破舊有觀念及行業的框框，例如：上樓梯的電動輪椅(發明家是家庭電器的設計師)，四臂三面的旋轉牙缐棒(發明家是室內設計師)！
Concept to cash 是漫長的過程，香港在發明及創新文化及初創企業的培養，還有漫長的路！
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-2 14:36
本帖最後由 ABC-DAD 於 17-6-2 15:03 編輯
按入有圖
部分內容：
賽於去年9月開始，分3階段、9個月內舉行，最後階段則餘下5個不同地方的隊伍入圍，有關隊伍並在本月10日，曾到法國圖盧茲的場地，花3日多把計劃書的模型實踐。
港大隊伍於一眾參賽隊伍脫穎而出，其作品「空中私人儲物室」的設計，則以防火及有一定強硬度的碳纖維蜂窩板造成，放置航班乘客座椅下的位置，乘客只要簡單按鍵能將儲物格打開，並最多可容納5公斤的物品。另乘客可加上密碼鎖，增加保障。
組員李建榮接受訪問時分享得獎感受，他坦言自己熱愛飛行，且於飛機維修公司實習時，無意發現飛機機身內的空餘位置，經計算實際重量時，認為今次的設計可行，「好多時啲乘客等後面上機嘅人放置物品，耽誤飛行時間，呢個儲物格就可以令乘客行快啲，減少飛機停泊地面時間，減低成本。」他又認為減少乘客擺放行李時間，可為航空公司節省3萬美元的地面成本，以及2分45秒的登機時間，並增加53%的行李放置量。
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作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-2 14:48
注意到細節又肯鑽研，咪人材囉。
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作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-2 15:28
有無人質疑過點解不同時代不同公司機型機款嘅機翼尖有唔同設計？
唔通風洞識吹就得？
作者: Covenant2017 時間: 17-6-2 15:47
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空氣動力學嘩。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 09:27
Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-2 15:03
我幾時有反對鼓勵劊意及反對Think out if the box 呢
我只是在評論大家同樣看到文字報導時，你們卻 ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 09:33
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Fellow also by speciality, I am specialises in other discipline(s), not Aircraft Engineering and I am not big headed to pretend to know everything.
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We should encourage and support our young engineer to excel in the field.
作者: Covenant2017 時間: 17-6-3 09:54
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作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-3 10:58
本帖最後由 ABC-DAD 於 17-6-3 11:20 編輯
呢個網址嘅應用力學基本原理有文有路，唔難明按入
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 11:02
Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-3 09:58
能提出合理疑問並不需要是該科的專家，只需要見識廣博，心思細密及分析能力強就可以了 ...
Nothing to do with you.
It's my principle.
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HK needs more positive energy for younger generation.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 11:20
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-3 09:33
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Fellow also by speciality, I am specialises in other discipline(s), not Ai ...
The best hope we can give to kids is to get them out of their non risk taking attitude. Start by parents allowing kids to make non-lethal mistakes.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 11:22
shadeslayer 發表於 17-6-3 11:20
The best hope we can give to kids is to get them out of their non risk taking attitude. Start by p ...
Agree.
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-3 11:25
Simple English解說aerodynamics
不過主題都唔係講呢樣嘢！
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（香港用咀做創意嘅一地都係）
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 11:28 標題: 回覆樓主：
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Delete.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 11:29 標題: 回覆樓主:
另外唔明如何慳登機時間, 除非這新設計夠大放手提行李, 但又唔似。
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-3 11:43
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可能港大同學模型有點原始，不過如能憑藉概念受賞識，有機會加(入）業界精英團隊學習，亦是一件美事。
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-3 12:58
https://fmalive.honeywell.com
Today's students . Tomorrow's Scientists
作者: akys 時間: 17-6-3 14:02
Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-2 15:26
看了設計概念後，發覺是可行，也能解答我之前提出之兩個疑問（之前報導沒有說明得清楚），不過，我也要提出 ...
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-3 14:53
如何實際應用該“空間”，有其他想像空間。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 16:22
本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 17-6-3 16:47 編輯
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https://www.airbus-fyi.com/news/private-stowage-compartment-design-wins-airbus-fly-your-ideas-2017-competition/
https://www.airbus-fyi.com/challenges/
https://www.facebook.com/AirbusFlyYourIdeas/videos/2053806931336223/
Presentation of all teams, questions from international jury and Facebook as well
HK Team's Presentation start from 32 min to 59 min.
Introduction
DemoConstruction
Safety Requirements and compliance
Pitch the idea to commercial airlines
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 16:23
akys 發表於 17-6-3 14:02
文中有話團隊有人喺HAECO實習，揾到空位
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 17:42
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-3 16:23
Link of the presentation at #33.
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-3 17:47 編輯
Thanks.
I like the design of the HK team presentation. Well rehearsed and interesting. However, i didn't even understand (much of) one of the students. And their most important slide was the one articulating the benefits. They spent only less than one minute on the benefits. And the presentation did not answer my question earlier on how they intend to save boarding time when most passengers have a larger bag than the space can store. Nearly everyone will still be using the overhead.
If the value proposition is not solid, the whole idea falls apart.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 18:36
shadeslayer 發表於 17-6-3 17:42
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-3 17:47 編輯
Thanks.
Air Bus may hire them after graduation and see how they commercialise it in the future.
The simulation of time saving is based on Air Bus software and parameters, with more prototyping and work with pilot airlines, the time saving can be improved accordingly.
My observation is many passengers included myself like to put the back pack into the upper cabinet, then other passengers can't put their luggage in, they spend times to look for other spaces, the passengers behind them keep on waiting. Zoning arrangement can help but can't solve the insufficient space issues.
From their calculations, increased the storage spaces by 33%, so the queue up time at the aisle can be reduced in theory. Need more investigation and modification to validate the time saving.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 18:56 標題: 回覆樓主
我見到年青人，有創新思維，敢闖敢試，我都好開心，就算略有不足，我都會支持！
當不少成年人成日鬧年青人，不敢嘗試，沒有勇氣面對挑戰，我們會否撫心自問，我們在他們的生命中支持者，抑或是百弾齋主
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 20:51
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-3 18:36
Air Bus may hire them after graduation and see how they commercialise it in the future.
The simul ...
They should probably look at the percentage of customers having small enough carry on baggage that can fit into their storage space (hence not needing the overhead) and the articulate the economic benefits of the airline on the saving of time and compare it to the cost of retrofitting all seats with this.
They can make a much more compelling case if they can relate the storage to economic return.
The British team was much better in this regard as they calculated the ROI and focus much more economic return.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 20:59
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-3 18:56
我見到年青人，有創新思維，敢闖敢試，我都好開心，就算略有不足，我都會支持！
當不少成年人成日鬧年青人 ...
絶對支持年輕人多嘗試。亦要虛心學習，接受失敗。成人多鼓勵年輕人，容許他們由錯誤中學習。 成人唔講真話，他們如何學習呢？
作者: akys 時間: 17-6-3 21:13
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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-3 17:47 編輯
Thanks.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-3 21:14
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The competition has 5 categories, some in business model and some in passenger experience and flight operation. The UK team is in business model and HK team in passenger experience.
ROI vs customer satisfaction.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 22:54
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-3 21:14
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The competition has 5 categories, some in business model and some in passen ...
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I am saying "benefits" . They spent 90% of time talking about how they found space. The only clear benefit they highlighted was "time saving", which they did not follow through. It was not obvious how this space translates to customer experience. They assume it was understood. Well, I didn't understand.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-3 23:14
akys 發表於 17-6-3 21:13
當年畢業後去了一家MNC, 要上幾個禮拜training, 第一次接觸FAB, 導師話坊間十個有九個sales嘅重點放喺F和A ...
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-3 23:41 編輯
I don't know. but one point the HK team can improve is really on articulating the benefits, more on time saving, how to achieve time saving, what time saving mean to customers and the airline. what other customer experience benefits? Is it leg room, is it additional baggage for customers? etc etc.
of course the HK team being one of the 5 finalists is a huge success in itself.
作者: Covenant2017 時間: 17-6-4 11:53
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作者: nintendo 時間: 17-6-4 12:06
Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-2 15:03
我幾時有反對鼓勵劊意及反對Think out if the box 呢
我只是在評論大家同樣看到文字報導時，你們卻 ...
I agree.
I personally know a few young people that are product design or architecture students.
Most of their "designs" would probably not work realistically. But schools always still let them think out of the box.
However, in their curriculum, there is also a time when they need to do presentations of their designs, and internal professors or outside professionals would come to school and challenge their design. This is actually a very important part of their curriculum.
So a good design has to be both innovative and practical.
I think designers, architects and engineers should be problem solvers.
Artists can think of anything they like, but problem solvers should produce practical solutions.
作者: 20120808 時間: 17-6-4 12:47
creativity is the major concern and core value in this competition，commercial thinking shouldn't be in the first place my dear. all new fresh ideas would be extinguished in the cruel practical world.
作者: 20120808 時間: 17-6-4 12:55
有没有去過時装設针系的畢業展或比赛？大部份的作品不能出街，或成本極貴或用料問題等等，但創意在學生階段，都是 first concern.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-4 14:42
Covenant2017 發表於 17-6-4 12:04
揾到空位是好事，但我幾可肯定並非每一張Econ座位下面會有所述之空間，機倉底層除了是行李倉之外，還有許 ...
Even with these questions and challenges, I would give them the benefits of doubt for them to explain the benefits. Alas, they did not make the most of the presentation.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-4 14:49
nintendo 發表於 17-6-4 12:06
I agree.
I personally know a few young people that are product design or architecture students.
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-4 14:53 編輯
Engineering solutions must not exist on their own, they have to exist to address a "problem. "
If I were advising these HK students, I would tell them to do first thing first in the presentation, i.e. Articulate the Problem Statement clearly, followed by how their solution solve the problem, reiterates the benefits, then elaborate on various challenges, and leaving the details of the Journey of the solution to the last or omitting it entirely and talk about what is next.
They seem to think more space is the solution to many problems they don't need to talk about. And that is worthy of all the trouble of retrofitting the boxes underfloor.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-4 15:02
20120808 發表於 17-6-4 12:47
creativity is the major concern and core value in this competition，commercial thinking shouldn't be ...
Creativity without practicality is just fantasies. I am not saying fantasies are not good, they are even important.
But the students were trying to develop ideas to aviation industries.
Imagine the student said they had some ideas and they did not know if they are practical, they would not have gone very far in the competition.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-4 15:22
shadeslayer 發表於 17-6-4 15:02
Creativity without practicality is just fantasies. I am not saying fantasies are not good, they ...
In this type of competition, the prototypes are proof of concepts, but you are looking for perfect solutions ..... marketable at this stage ..... Even ITF funds also have different tiers for different stages of development of innovation and technology.
The last question from Air Bus is a great conclusion, are they interested to move on the project after graduation. For me, they just passed the group recruitment interview of Air Bus.
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If they participate the "EK - Blow Water Innovation" competition, all participants will be shot down by our jury, no survivors.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-4 15:35
ANChan59 發表於 17-6-4 15:22
They are going farther than other finalists, they are the champion of the competition, out of 650+ t ...
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-4 15:37 編輯
Again, don't get me wrong, there are some questions and challenges and I am willing to reserve my judgment on the final product. And of course I am proud of the HK team coming this far.
my biggest comment has nothing to do with the creativity or practicality of the design, it is the benefits (or problem statement) which received too little attention in the presentation.
They should also have limited one of the student to speak as his English even I, a local HK person, find it hard to understand. I hope it is just me.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-4 15:45
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shadeslayer 發表於 17-6-4 15:02
Creativity without practicality is just fantasies. I am not saying fantasies are not good, they ...
In their presentation, they tried to address the safety requirement of aviation industries and also the first question from the jury to clarify the design during emergency and evacuation conditions, the jury satisfied with their answers.
They also addressed the weight, spaces, material, electrical and electronic network to solve the multiple constraints problem.
It's a four days on site competition, only four days.
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Unfortunately, i can't find their judging criteria, I guess may come from the following items:
Innovative idea
Technical competence
Team work
Presentation & Q&A
Possibility of commercialisation (Optional)
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Example of another competition
SCORING RUBRICS & WEIGHTING
Clinical Impacts (25%) - Needs, Potential clinical benefits, Clinical feasibility, Business model (including regulatory issues, etc.)
Novelty (25%) - Major conceptual innovation vs incremental gain over existing products, Potential IP
Technical Merits (40%) - Technical challenges, Demonstration of technical feasibility
Presentation (10%) - Clarity, Captivating presentation
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If we know the judging criteria, we may have different views, and more appreciation of the finalists.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-4 15:52
Another example.
http://www.dreamcatchers.hku.hk/?p=1838
DreamCatchers Medtech Hackathon Hong Kong 2017 is back! The only way to do it is “TO DO IT!” Let’s spend a week to demystify the process of healthcare innovation in Hong Kong.
How can we live longer and healthier? Healthy ageing relies on quality, cost-effective preventive care, relevant personalized health knowledge and behavioral change, and improved timely access to quality “sick care”. From AI-assisted screening to precision medicine, and remote sensing to assistive robotics, innovative MedTech solutions can enhance the quality of life for the ageing population and create immense social impact. However, innovating in health is challenging, requiring interdisciplinary teams of medical professionals, engineers, developers, and designers to tackle unmet needs.
Co-organised by the University of Hong Kong (HKU) and Hong Kong Science and Technology Parks Corporation (HKSTP), the DreamCatchers MedTech Hackathon Hong Kong 2017 will be led by Dr Robert Chang and team from Stanford University.
The week long hackathon is targeting students from Stanford University and Hong Kong universities, and young professionals from HKSTP to experience Stanford Biodesign methodologies, design thinking, business model canvas, and to work in interdisciplinary teams to come up with prototypes of sustainable healthcare solutions.
Theme: Enabling Medical Care Outside the Hospital
Date: June 18－25, 2017*
Venue: Hong Kong Science Park & The University of Hong Kong
Apply NOW if you have skills/training in engineering, medicine, design, software development, and/or business!
Online application: http://bit.ly/2o2rs1l
Application Deadline: 30 April, 2017
*Committed participants have to join for the whole session of 18 – 25 June , 2017
Who Should Apply?
– Talented minds who are keen to transform the healthcare products/services and with strong interests in entrepreneurship
– Graduate with bachelor degree or the above from Engineering, Computing, Medicine, Design, Business field
– Medical students OR current students with demonstrated maker movement skills may also apply
What to Expect ?
1. Close Encounter with physicians and patients to explore unmet needs at a hospital setting
2. Develop prototype on device / app / new tech / service / web service with immediate potential for clinical validation studies
3. Compete in interdisciplinary teams for a technically feasible, financially viable and novel digital health solution for unmet care needs at Queen Mary Hospital
4. Pitch your business plan to investors and esteemed entrepreneurs from HK, Mainland China and Silicon Valley to win the Grand Prize
18 June, 2017
Welcome dinner
19-20 June, 2017
Site visit
Queen Mary Hospital
21-23 June, 2017
Ideation & Prototype Development
Brainstorm for creative solutions that can best address the identified need. Filtering to the most promising solution and develop prototype concept with 3D printer and other development tools.
24-25 June, 2017
Business Plan & Investment Pitch
Learn about financial modeling for healthcare products and develop the business model canvas that is compelling and sustainable. 6 minutes pitch competition in front of investors, entrepreneurs and medical professional
作者: ABC-DAD 時間: 17-6-4 18:59
Why Seats Are the New Weapons for Airlines?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_kDGI6JNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wWMd4Fdtbg
作者: Wonderlady 時間: 17-6-5 16:10 標題: 回覆：椅底設儲物格 港大生空中巴士創意賽奪冠
年輕人應該多支持。
乜野都彈，好煩
作者: ANChan59 時間: 17-6-5 17:47
Wonderlady 發表於 17-6-5 16:10
年輕人應該多支持。
乜野都彈，好煩
其實都反映不同家長在家中如何鼓勵，或者對孩子撥冷水，種瓜得瓜，種豆得豆！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-5 18:00
Wonderlady 發表於 17-6-5 16:10
年輕人應該多支持。
乜野都彈，好煩
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-5 18:04 編輯
鼓厲多嘗試, 接受孩子失敗是必需的。但認真的比意見, 認真的「彈」係成長一部份, 尤其係大學生。
通常我想害佢的人, 或者我唔 care 的人, 我只會有讚無彈。
作者: Wonderlady 時間: 17-6-5 18:13 標題: 引用：Quote:Wonderlady+發表於+17-6-5+16:10+ 年
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 17-06-05 發表
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-5 18:04 編輯
鼓厲多嘗試, 接受孩子失敗是必需的。但認真的比意見, 認 ...
何苦再雞蛋裏挑骨頭。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-5 19:39
Wonderlady 發表於 17-6-5 18:13
人地參賽作品自有評判去決定。人地都給予肯定和正面評價。
何苦再雞蛋裏挑骨頭。
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-5 19:47 編輯
評價不正面就不會到五強, 但不代表完美。大學生將要出來做事, 有更多骨頭比人挑。何況, 挑出來的骨頭未必一定啱, 正面D聽下意見無壞。
作者: Wonderlady 時間: 17-6-5 20:33 標題: 引用：Quote:Wonderlady+發表於+17-6-5+18:13+ 人
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 17-06-05 發表
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-6-5 19:47 編輯
評價不正面就不會到五強, 但不代表完美。大學生將要出來 ...
係香港講科學研究已經好奢侈，難得有班肯用功的年輕人，應該珍惜。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-6-5 20:52
Wonderlady 發表於 17-6-5 20:33
其實力臻完美當然好。但係今日香港尼個世代，年輕人好容易放棄，有D會hea 讀大學，有D阿媽鋪買舖買樓，唔用 ...
我非常珍惜及欣賞。
作者: Covenant2017 時間: 17-6-6 11:17
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作者: Artie 時間: 17-6-6 12:52
小女在大學讀建築，其中一環是 "crit" 。
是一個 presentation ，professor 會請外面的 architect 來聽 presentation，彈多過讚。聽說大部分 architecture program 也如是。
其實以 "比賽" 或 "功課" 來說，係可以讓人較大創作空間。
但實際上，"用家" 想要甚麼是另一回事。
設計產品，並非單單是創作，而是要合用家心水。
以往也試過，羸了建築設計比賽的作品不被採納，用了另一個。
一日未成為大師，做設計的人，要有心理準備被批評。
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