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標題: 鍾意國際學校既原因係? [打印本頁]
作者: chongcm 時間: 17-4-5 21:36 標題: 鍾意國際學校既原因係?
自己讀過本地學校,外國學校，國際學校.依家做左人父母,想了解下依家父母點解鍾意仔女讀國際學校?
作者: 964000 時間: 17-4-5 22:47
chongcm 發表於 17-4-5 21:36 
自己讀過本地學校,外國學校，國際學校.依家做左人父母,想了解下依家父母點解鍾意仔女讀國際學校?
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你讀過你覺得如何？
作者: Jane1983 時間: 17-4-6 09:48
我小朋友係可以接受傳統或活動教學，選IS係想佢有多d時間和空間發展，睇多d書、自主學習，唔想比好多唔係好有意思的功課困住佢。另外，IS的英普語境亦比較好。
作者: augkBB 時間: 17-4-6 09:54
chongcm 發表於 17-4-5 21:36
自己讀過本地學校,外國學校，國際學校.依家做左人父母,想了解下依家父母點解鍾意仔女讀國際學校?
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作者: Dear-Valerie 時間: 17-4-6 09:57
本帖最後由 Dear-Valerie 於 18-3-29 11:39 編輯
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作者: Choochootrain 時間: 17-4-6 10:08
沒有太喜歡國際，只是太討厭本地課程...
作者: chongcm 時間: 17-4-6 10:25
augkBB 發表於 17-4-6 09:54
你自己鐘意哪一種?想聽下你的分享?
The way of teaching is different e.g.
Maths standard is relatively easier e.g. Things kids learn at primary LS may not happen until secondary school in IS or foreign country
The way we learn English is different, we read books, discuss in groups, write stories, do speech. No dictation, test in early age. LS more focus on technical side of English language which is understandable as English is not their first language.but having said this, it does not mean IS or kids who study at foreign country is necessarily strong in written or reading skills,
Foreign education system seldom rank students at early age, less test, exam so less competitive
作者: chongcm 時間: 17-4-6 10:30
augkBB 發表於 17-4-6 09:54
你自己鐘意哪一種?想聽下你的分享?
I believe every kid has the ability to adapt to different education system with the support of parents and teachers but takes time. it took me 3 years to listen and speak English in a foreign country naturally starting with zero understanding
A good thing about LS is the diversity of children which is important for kids' development
Now as a parent I also have to decide what to provide to my kid so interest to hear from other parents
作者: augkBB 時間: 17-4-6 10:50
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 09:57
我係香港傳統名校畢業, 英國留學, 在香港教過IB,直資,津貼小學. 我先生係香港名校小學畢業, 移民加拿大讀中 ...
作者: augkBB 時間: 17-4-6 10:51
chongcm 發表於 17-4-6 10:25
The way of teaching is different e.g.
Maths standard is relatively easier e.g. Things kids learn at ...
作者: ccjm 時間: 17-4-6 11:14
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me too
作者: LuiLuiLaw 時間: 17-4-6 11:30
augkBB 發表於 17-4-6 10:50
中文程度高並教繁體字的國際學校,加上行英制考AL.香港有這種學校嗎?
i want to know too!
RC taught Chinese in Traditional Chinese and the Chinese level is good in standard, and they run IB in whole 13 school years....Besides, most of the IS taught Chinese in Simplified Chinese, for example ESF's school, they run IGCSE in year 10 and 11, then IBDP in year 12 and 13.
作者: QHGM 時間: 17-4-6 12:19
Think Int. 教䌓體字，小學行1B PYP, 中學行IGCSE, 最後兩年行lB，不過中學今年才開辦。
作者: chongcm 時間: 17-4-6 13:30
964000 發表於 17-4-5 22:47
你讀過你覺得如何？
Definitely as a kid, I would prefer IS or foreign education as life is much easier and so is my parents but there are trade off... reading and oral in Chinese is fine but writing is much weaker compare to local student so eg if you apply hk govt job, you may not pass written assessment...
I also see the good side of LS but it is not easy for parents nowadays..
作者: Dear-Valerie 時間: 17-4-6 13:30
本帖最後由 Dear-Valerie 於 18-3-29 11:39 編輯
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作者: Cara2006 時間: 17-4-6 13:50
QHGM 發表於 17-4-6 12:19
Think Int. 教䌓體字，小學行1B PYP, 中學行IGCSE, 最後兩年行lB，不過中學今年才開辦。
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I think they were talking about IGCSE + AL.
IBPYP + IGCSE + IBDP, is exactly what ESF has been doing these years. But ESF are all shifting to all through train IB.
作者: Cara2006 時間: 17-4-6 13:51
augkBB 發表於 17-4-6 10:50
中文程度高並教繁體字的國際學校,加上行英制考AL.香港有這種學校嗎?
A few local schools provide support for AL exams.
I do not think there are any international school that are still doing AL.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-4-6 13:51
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 09:57
我係香港傳統名校畢業, 英國留學, 在香港教過IB,直資,津貼小學. 我先生係香港名校小學畢業, 移民加拿大讀中 ...
可否pm那間學校呢？
作者: augkBB 時間: 17-4-6 13:57
Cara2006 發表於 17-4-6 13:51
A few local schools provide support for AL exams.
I do not think there are any international schoo ...
作者: torunpoland 時間: 17-4-6 14:05 標題: 回覆樓主：
本帖最後由 torunpoland 於 17-4-6 16:16 編輯
To sum up - a natural access to multicultural exposure, an inspirational guide to a life-long learning journey and a nurturing environment for an ambition to be different.
作者: licpd 時間: 17-4-6 16:26
I think the major difference between local schools and IS is culture. If you've studied at both schools, you should know what I mean.
I have relatives study at LS and they're very competitive in sports, music and academics. I can see the merits cos parents and kids really need to work hard even at early age and be very efficient in time management and have good EQ which are all good things to master. But I also see the danger of getting into mindsets of valuing too much about beating others and ignoring teamwork and sometimes fun to them is a foreign word.
作者: chongcm 時間: 17-4-6 16:40
licpd 發表於 17-4-6 16:26
I think the major difference between local schools and IS is culture. If you've studied at both scho ...
I agree.. the efforts are huge at early age. it creates lots of pressure psychologically. Some kids excel under pressure but some are crushed. My only worry about IS is that it will become another competitive playground in future years as it becomes more and more popular amongst parents...in the old days we choose IS because we can't study local, now is different..
作者: Belite 時間: 17-4-6 21:25
我喜歡國際學校其中之一的教學方法，係比時間小孩去嘗試做同做錯。學習自學，解決問題。因功課比較少，所以能夠有足夠時間睇大量的書。小孩自己喜歡的書。
作者: happyfleet 時間: 17-4-7 03:50
Cara2006 發表於 17-4-6 13:51
A few local schools provide support for AL exams.
I do not think there are any international schoo ...
Kellett
作者: kwokyuen 時間: 17-4-7 07:04
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 09:57
我係香港傳統名校畢業, 英國留學, 在香港教過IB,直資,津貼小學. 我先生係香港名校小學畢業, 移民加拿大讀中 ...
請教為何英國課程好過IB?
作者: 964000 時間: 17-4-7 12:17
我個女自己揀，佢in過D local kinder, 間間都話吾like, 嫌三嫌四, 去in ESF , Anfield，Kingston etc 超like, 所以都吾洗稔
作者: Immomo 時間: 17-4-7 18:59
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I want to know too. why UK is better than IB? Looking forward to hearing your feedback.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-4-7 23:15
kwokyuen 發表於 17-4-7 07:04
請教為何英國課程好過IB?
其中一樣好處就係有得考公開的lGCSE。
作者: kwokyuen 時間: 17-4-8 09:11
shadeslayer 發表於 17-4-7 23:15
其中一樣好處就係有得考公開的lGCSE。
我仔正讀傳統名津小二，好辛苦，想準備(emoji)校！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-4-8 11:43
kwokyuen 發表於 17-4-8 09:11
我仔正讀傳統名津小二，好辛苦，想準備(emoji)校！
是條不歸路, 不能再用本地教育心態, 要接受完全不同學制同教育理念。
作者: kwokyuen 時間: 17-4-8 13:35
shadeslayer 發表於 17-4-8 11:43
是條不歸路, 不能再用本地教育心態, 要接受完全不同學制同教育理念。
想轉因為唔想佢再受苦及壓力，二來現有課程已落後，追不上未來社會發展
作者: Atecila 時間: 17-5-18 20:16
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 09:57
我係香港傳統名校畢業, 英國留學, 在香港教過IB,直資,津貼小學. 我先生係香港名校小學畢業, 移民加拿大讀中 ...
Wondering if you mind sharing which School you have chosen for your child (with U.K. Curriculum but traditional Chinese)? I also prefer UK curriculum over IB and plan to send my son overseas around year 9 or 10.
作者: kwclau 時間: 17-5-19 09:20
kwokyuen 發表於 17-4-8 13:35
想轉因為唔想佢再受苦及壓力，二來現有課程已落後，追不上未來社會發展
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I joined an information session of an international school and the principal said, nowadays we don't stress on teaching the kids the knowledge, but to inspire him to find the ans/solution himself. I think it is what I want to see in my kid. He knows how to calculate 1+1=2 which is great, but a set of computer can do it all, much more quickly. What he needs to know is WHY he is adding 1 to 1。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-5-19 19:49
chongcm 發表於 17-4-6 13:30
Definitely as a kid, I would prefer IS or foreign education as life is much easier and so is my par ...
if education to you is all about Chinese writing to the level of civil servant, then local school is the only way to go.
作者: aquamarine1030 時間: 17-9-2 08:14
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 13:30
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以下國際/私立學校提供外國課程及教授繁體中文:
請開KCIS是教簡體嗎？
作者: babyjip 時間: 17-9-2 10:31
kwclau 發表於 17-5-19 09:20
I joined an information session of an international school and the principal said, nowadays we don' ...
Agreed. Nowadays many knowledge and info can be acquired in google at fingertips rather than simply memorizing from books. Learning how to learn and problem solving are more important if you are foreseeing what the world will be 20 years later. Unfortunately nowadays most LS still measure students by countless traditional tests and exams.
作者: happyfleet 時間: 17-9-2 11:37 標題: 回覆樓主:
我覺得國際學校會對小朋友多作出正面的評價, 比較少批評。老師比較明白小朋友係唔同的成長階段會遇到唔同的問題, 所以對小朋友會多些包容。小班教學, 老師有多些空間觀察學生, 了解學生性格。
作者: elainL 時間: 17-9-5 17:05
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甘最後揀咗邊間啊？可唔可以分享下原因啊
作者: elainL 時間: 17-9-5 17:05
964000 發表於 17-4-7 12:17
我個女自己揀，佢in過D local kinder, 間間都話吾like, 嫌三嫌四, 去in ESF , Anfield，Kingston etc 超lik ...
作者: 咖央西多 時間: 17-9-5 18:17
aquamarine1030 發表於 17-9-2 08:14
請開KCIS是教簡體嗎？
繁體
作者: 964000 時間: 17-9-5 20:04
elainL 發表於 17-9-5 17:05
咁最後揀咗邊間呀？可唔可以分享原因
都係揀了ESF, 因為有中學
作者: jolalee 時間: 17-10-11 08:00
chongcm 發表於 17-4-5 21:36
自己讀過本地學校,外國學校，國際學校.依家做左人父母,想了解下依家父母點解鍾意仔女讀國際學校?
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1) Stick to one language per parent / caretaker, esp when you haven't decided which path to go for. It is easy to parents to mix languages at this stage, which is not constructive to a child's language acquisition.
2) Once you have decided on a certain system, try your best to stick to it instead of switching around. As you have wisely pointed out, each system has its pros and cons, and each child get to only choose one. It'd be better to make up our mind than to have a child try out different systems or even straddle between two at the same time (seriously, I've seen it done before; it's not healthy for the child as all)
3) You are correct to point out the increased competitiveness of IS due to more Asian parents being in the system. Seem like in HK, we are fortunate enough to have choices, but at the same time we don't get to choose this competitive environment which permeates through all schools. Look for what suits your family's philosophy the most, but do be aware that in the end, we are in Hong Kong.
Love to hear your conclusions and questions after 1/2 year of searching...
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作者: Otome 時間: 17-10-22 04:49
Dear-Valerie 發表於 17-4-6 13:30
回覆 augkBB 的帖子
以下國際/私立學校提供外國課程及教授繁體中文:
作者: andykwan 時間: 17-10-22 21:05
Otome 發表於 17-10-22 04:49
請問你介唔介意pm我知你仔仔係邊間讀？我大女小二，傳統小學⋯⋯但我個女超鍾意睇書，英文算幾好，但中文⋯ ...
作者: Fish777 時間: 17-10-22 23:33
andykwan 發表於 17-10-22 21:05
我囡由在傳統女校由小一讀到今年中二，成績中上，讀得開心。但我唔想佢考DSE，現考慮下年轉到IS讀 grade 9. ...
點解讀左咁耐現在先唔想考DSE呢
作者: andykwan 時間: 17-10-24 00:53
Fish777 發表於 17-10-22 23:33
點解讀左咁耐現在先唔想考DSE呢
其實在傳統學校讀DSE係一種訓練, 用約五年時間去消化七至八科內容，再考試倒返出來...如果將來的事業需要讀得書，要挑戰一個又一個專業試，DSE 係唔錯的選擇。
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-10-24 07:55
本帖最後由 GC0060 於 17-10-24 08:25 編輯
Disclaimer: I studied in an elite girl school until Secondary 3, then to the US until I gradated from College
Husband is ESF graduate from Primary all the way to F.7.
We were discussing about the background of the people working in his Investment bank, which is one of the top American bank. All the MD / directors / senior management / bankers are either foreigners / mainlanders, while the local grads are mostly in the operation / IT / back office. Don't want to be stereotypical but it shows the skills of the two different kind of education train up.
Our daughter has started Year 1 in ESF. She is definitely becoming more and more expressive and speak up her mind. She really does have a mind of her own and won't be influenced easily unless she's been convinced with "sound" reasons. And this is the kind of skills I now believe is most important - critical and analytical thinking, articulation and expressiveness etc.
But yes it does come with a price, expensive tuition and weak written Chinese (her mandarin speaking is still good) and I'll live with that. I supplement with traditional Chinese writing at home daily and she's progressing well.
作者: bonbon1106 時間: 17-10-24 08:22
我囡在傳統女校讀小2, applying for IS too !
作者: samsam123321 時間: 17-10-25 11:02
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 19-2-21 07:49 編輯
andykwan 發表於 17-10-24 00:53
因為囡唔太喜歡中文，我亦覺得佢在學科找不到方向，想趁完成初中前再考慮IS...
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作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-25 11:29
GC0060 發表於 17-10-24 07:55
All the MD / directors / senior management / bankers are either foreigners / mainlanders, while the local grads are mostly in the operation / IT / back office. Don't want to be stereotypical but it shows the skills of the two different kind of education train up. ...
作者: samsam123321 時間: 17-10-25 11:58
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 19-2-21 00:42 編輯
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-10-25 11:29
Just want to point out that mainland Chinese undergo a spoon-fed style education train up not dissim ...
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作者: Jane1983 時間: 17-10-25 12:03
國內學生即使在國內讀開IS，轉來香港讀IS，認識好多個，都係力補力谷。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 17-10-25 12:14
大陸學生讀書其實無乜特別，叻果批，除非極聰明，否則無非極之刻苦用功。
但讀IS的大陸學生，即使好細個就讀，好像比較少中文完全唔得，呢方面可能有比較值得借鏡的地方。
作者: 964000 時間: 17-10-25 12:45
Jane1983 發表於 17-10-25 12:14
大陸學生讀書其實無乜特別，叻果批，除非極聰明，否則無非極之刻苦用功。
但讀IS的大陸學生，即使好細個就 ...
所以我始終相信是屋企落的苦功，當你父母直呈不懂英文，爺爺嫲嫲整天古訓掛在口，連寫封家書都要中文，你就不會看輕中文。另外口説PTH再學白話亦比較易學，我自己教女兒中文，她現在k2, 也花了不少時間才認識到那些廣東口話從來不用的詞語，例如「白天」「生活」「生氣」「害怕」「x着」這些看似簡單，但原來我們的小朋友也要由頭學才明白意思，所以要日積月累讀很多書給她聽，慢慢儲很多字庫，才有心機再學上去。
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-25 13:09
samsam123321 發表於 17-10-25 11:58
有些大陸人好早過去外國讀，有些遲過去但都起碼是海歸
The point is, the original poster grouped mainlander and foreigner together. May be there is some truth in saying mainlanders are foreigners, but as far as mainland education is concerned it is similar to HK's if not more rigid.
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-10-25 13:32
Honestly I don't think anyone here know what are the schools / education in China are really like these days since we probably don't have any first-hand experience, but I have read many articles on the "quality" of the mainland students studying in various Hong Kong universities, most lecturers / professors would describe them as hard-working, assertive, determined, asking tons of questions and being very engaged in class discussions etc.
As in the business world, the mainlanders here are observed to be proficient in both Chinese and English, well-connected and educated...at least in the banks I know.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-25 13:46
GC0060 發表於 17-10-25 13:32
well-connected and educated... ...
作者: samsam123321 時間: 17-10-25 23:52
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 18-6-27 17:55 編輯
大陸14億人，每年
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-26 00:24
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 17-10-26 00:28 編輯
samsam123321 發表於 17-10-25 23:52
大陸14億人，每年成千萬人考高考，百萬人分之一都有可能十幾人，來香港的可能是省狀元。即百萬人挑一人，想 ...
We're not focusing on the quality of the people but the quality of the education system, and in that regard there is no need to fantasize about China's education system.
The people who know China's education system best are the mainland Chinese themselves, and since there are far more mainland Chinese coming to HK to study than Hongkongers going in the opposite direction, the conclusion is pretty obvious.
作者: chunyatmama 時間: 17-10-26 14:59
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-10-26 00:24
We're not focusing on the quality of the people but the quality of the education system, and in tha ...
Anyway, I have no idea about the education system in Mainland but there is a fact that they are a lot more aggressive and proactive in their learning attitude. Maybe that's their culture. They will not give up any chance in front of them. There are many good examples from my friend who teaches in HKU. Based on his observation, the local students are no way to compare with those from Mainland. The professor and lecturers are all with similar comments.
作者: Baymax2009 時間: 17-10-26 16:51
chunyatmama 發表於 17-10-26 14:59
I believe that those Mainlander enrolled in the Universities in Hong Kong are trying boarden their e ...
“There are many good examples from my friend who teaches in HKU.Based on his observation, the local students are no way to compare with those from Mainland.The professor and lecturers are all with similar comments.”
像前面有人說的，能從內地考入HKU的，很可能都是各地狀元，每年高考一千萬人里拼出的幾千人，可想需要怎樣的毅力和能力。而在hk同等成績的學生可以有更多選擇，未必留港讀大學。所以在本地高校出現這種被「碾壓」的狀況也不難理解，收生質量決定的。
作者: chunyatmama 時間: 17-10-26 17:06 標題: 回覆樓主
又或者從另一角度睇，本地學生太不爭氣。機會放在眼前，卻不爭取，總奉送與人，例子不只一個。國內學生俱競爭力，加上鬥心強，是不爭的事實。
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-26 18:20
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 17-10-26 18:20 編輯
chunyatmama 發表於 17-10-26 14:59
boarden their experience and trying to go out and learn, just like those Hong Kongers going to other countries ...
If the reason for mainland Chinese coming to HK to study is simply to broaden their experience rather than being attracted by a genuine difference in terms of quality of the education system, then we should see Hongkongers being just as eager to go in the opposite direction since China's education system is just as good if not better, but we don't see that happening. Furthermore, when we talk of mainland Chinese coming to HK to study, it doesn't just occur at university level, there are long lines of uniformed children crossing the Lowu border every morning in a southerly direction, and zero going the opposite way.
I'm not saying HK's education system is good, it certainly is not, but if you compare it with China's, you can see how people vote with their feet, and lastly, would YOU send your children to attend school in China? Like I said, there is no need to go out of one's way to fantasize about China's education system :)
作者: samsam123321 時間: 17-10-26 19:11
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 19-2-21 07:47 編輯
chunyatmama 發表於 17-10-26 17:06
又或者從另一角度睇，本地學生太不爭氣。機會放在眼前，卻不爭取，總奉送與人，例子不只一個。國內學生俱競 ...
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作者: chunyatmama 時間: 17-10-26 19:55
samsam123321 發表於 17-10-26 19:11
本地教育問題，不鼓勵發問。
其實不只發問的。一個很真實例字，大公司offer part time 實習機會，條件是要做一年，大部分本地生並不熱衷，來自國內生未合資格（要2年級以上），但他主動爭取，最後取得機會。
作者: chunyatmama 時間: 17-10-26 19:58
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-10-26 18:20
If the reason for mainland Chinese coming to HK to study is simply to broaden their experience rath ...
I have already said I have no idea about the education system in China and I have no intention to comment if it’s good or not. Hongkkngers have not tried to have education in China may have many reasons. Frankly, I will support my kids if they think 青華or 北大is good for them. Why not give it a try?
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-26 23:02
chunyatmama 發表於 17-10-26 19:58
I have already said I have no idea about the education system in China ...
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-10-27 08:39
You will be surprised to see the increase in no. of local students going back to China (or Taiwan and Macau) for higher education. I'm not even talking about the elite University, but just any universities (ie UIC in 珠海) .
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-10-27 08:43
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I agree and that was my point. I don't want to comment on their education but you can see the difference of their graduates. As I have stated earlier, in the investment banks I know, all the bankers / traders / MD / directors are either foreigners or mainlanders , while the local graduates (and they are the top of the classes) are mostly in operations / IT / back office.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-27 13:15
GC0060 發表於 17-10-27 08:39
You will be surprised to see the increase in no. of local students going back to China (or Taiwan an ...
In any case, I do respect people who put their money where their mouth is and actually practice what they preach, so when you consider education choices for your children you should position schools in China as the top choice :)
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-10-27 13:34
I only say what I observe, I don't know why there is an increase in the no. of HK students going to China to further their studies, maybe they want to be MDS, or maybe as simple as they like the campus / education they offer, I don't know. And I do not believe all mainlander MDs get to the top with only or any connections at all. Those people at the top are very smart and do their job well.
I'm not here to praise or trash China education as I do not comment on things I do not know or have any first-hand experience. Even though this is the cyber world and one can practically say whatever they want with no consequences, I would appreciate you do not put words in others mouth and making assumption or recommendation for others believing you know best or being smart.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-27 13:51
GC0060 發表於 17-10-27 13:34
Those people at the top are very smart and do their job well. ...
Lastly, if we don't know something we can always ask, there are enough mainlanders in HK to make asking easy.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-10-27 16:07
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-10-27 13:15
Assuming there is such an increase, are you saying they go (back?) to China to study so they'll be t ...
Mainlander MDs are highflyers despite their education.
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I have said this for HK typical students or poor parenting in the past but I guess it applies to Mainland China education too.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 17-10-27 16:32
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 17-10-27 16:35 編輯
shadeslayer 發表於 17-10-27 16:07
Mainlander MDs are highflyers despite their education.
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That's what I meant. These mainlander MDs are smart and they got to where they are in spite of their education in China, not because of it. If anything, the rote learning spoon-feeding rigid education they received in China was a hindrance rather than a help.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 17-10-27 18:32
FattyDaddy 發表於 17-10-27 16:32
That's what I meant. These mainlander MDs are smart and they got to where they are in spite of thei ...
I share your sentiment in this topic.
作者: simonwan 時間: 17-10-29 18:53
大投行有很多大陸人高層系時勢使然。而家絕大部分的 deal 同 IPO 都同大陸有關。
系八九十年代，仲有好多香港公司deal 時，大投行有好多香港畢業生做到 MD，其中唔少系香港傳統 local school 畢業。就算系大學都唔一定系外國名校返黎，個時每年都有請 中大、港大 畢業生，其中唔少做到 MD。
大陸中小學比香港更谷！而家大陸有 D 錢或有D辦法的父母，都爭住將孩子送出國讀書，而且越推越前，很多初中就出國。
就算清華北大，佢地D 學生硬知識就世界一流，但學校管學生的手法就系好似香港中學管學生甘。我常想，呢班甘聰明的學生如果有個自由開放的環境讀書，成就應該會更大。
至於國内學生點解表現比香港學生好？兩個字： 鬥心！
呢個系同佢地成長環境有關，因爲從小在學校、社會嘜都要鬥一餐至有，佢地從小就學識要爭，同埋知道搞關係的重要性，識得討好要討好的人。就算國内，富裕大城市的學生努力程度及鬥心都唔及二三綫城市及農村。在此我不作價值判斷，無話岩唔岩，大陸環境就系甘。問題系你會唔會比仔女系甘 ge (强調鬥爭) 環境成長？
作者: mimi613 時間: 17-10-31 18:08
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Perhaps it just so happens in your social circle. I am a professional and many of my fellow classmates who graduated from HKU are holding MD/ VP positions in top-tire i-banks such as Goldman Sachs and UBS, we graduated from an elite program at HKU. I get to meet different senior management on a day-to-day basis and from my own observation, i do not see the big gap you've mentioned between Hong Kongers and mainland Chinese. There are smart and less smart people all around us, may or may not be related to the education system. But one thing I found quite interesting in your posts is that you place much emphasis on a person's job title, seems like you link job titles to a person's ability / intelligence which makes me quite uncomfortable. I hope this wasn't what you are trying to say.
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