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作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-18 09:52 標題: ESF TY今年考小一如何
想了解下今年多咗TC一齊爭，有冇K2 家長可以講下暫時第一輪有幾多人有offer? 感激
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-19 23:01
好像有些班好些，有些班不太好，不少waiting或reject!
作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-20 09:36
VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-18 09:52 
想了解下今年多咗TC一齊爭，有冇K2 家長可以講下暫時第一輪有幾多人有offer? 感激
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有D班仲差D，整體我估有成15％人reject or second interview , 好似比去年嚴， 2nd interview 最後入唔入到未知。
個玩法好似改變中，reject 或2nd interview 的理由五花八門， 尢其不利怕陌生或靜的孩子，ESF在不同briefing一次又一次強調他們會令shy的孩子說話, 唔好信, 有這問題的一定要train up, 否則貴客自理。 今年fail 的有D係native speaker, 仲大部都冇被學校揀中上enhancement course 的！
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-20 10:15
hong0706 發表於 17-2-20 09:36
我個班我知的20人中，13人已有offer, 4人wait foundation school, 機會應該好大， 1人直接reject, 2人要sec ...
What is enhancement course ?
作者: lckfwylyk 時間: 17-2-20 10:20 標題: 回覆樓主:
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and half are waiting...
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 10:32
ESF似乎愈多人報，愈來愈揀學生了，這是可以理解，ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績
作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-20 10:37
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wah.... half are rejected... 
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-20 10:37
lckfwylyk 發表於 17-2-20 10:20
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and ...
For those rejected cases , do u think that it is because of eng standard ? Or just timid personality ? Or other non-cooperative behaviour ?
作者: cusoon 時間: 17-2-20 10:39
It's a good sign
作者: cole_chan 時間: 17-2-20 10:42
lckfwylyk 發表於 17-2-20 10:20
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and ...
Half are rejected ! That's quite a lot
Do you know the reason of being rejected ?
作者: ssmm1012 時間: 17-2-20 10:52
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more than 1/2 of them didn't get the offer is very awful.i think the successful rate at WKS is much better than TY.
作者: lckfwylyk 時間: 17-2-20 10:57
cole_chan 發表於 17-2-20 10:42
Half are rejected ! That's quite a lot
Do you know the reason of being rejected ?
I know the rejected kids, regarding eng standard, except one is too shy , others are active and can speak good English, however, I observe some of them are not well behaved and lack of social skills.
作者: kwokkellybb 時間: 17-2-20 10:58
一半咁多? 咁esf tc咪仲好過esf ty?
作者: cole_chan 時間: 17-2-20 11:00
Is the school start selecting children with good background like other elite school ?
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 11:00
kwokkellybb 發表於 17-2-20 10:58
一半咁多? 咁esf tc咪仲好過esf ty?
TC應該更差。。。。
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 11:06
cole_chan 發表於 17-2-20 11:00
Is the school start selecting children with good background like other elite school ?
本帖最後由 VVhuilee 於 17-2-20 12:23 編輯
整合我自同老師同媽咪傾計嘅個人觀感：
英文同自理能力及social skills要求高。怕羞，攪攪震嘅學生一定輸蝕。
老師多次強調重要性，感覺上家長唔好諗著讀kinder有 priority就hea著算。
foundation school 話non-selective係唔太睇academic, 但 RC一定睇academic.
作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-20 11:06
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有冇人知道 TC既實際情況?
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 11:09
cole_chan 發表於 17-2-20 11:00
Is the school start selecting children with good background like other elite school ?
唔覺，但唔好諗著入咗kinder就一定掂囉。
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 11:17
VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 11:00
TC應該更差。。。。
WKS 暫時識得的都有offer/waiting, 未聽見有reject, 不過我識得的k2人數不多
作者: 858 時間: 17-2-20 11:22
cole_chan 發表於 17-2-20 11:00
Is the school start selecting children with good background like other elite school ?
My son's classmates whose dad is a pilot got rejected. Another case is the candidate's dad works in legal field and he's been placed on waiting list - namely my son.
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-20 11:25
964000 發表於 17-2-20 10:32
ESF似乎愈多人報，愈來愈揀學生了，這是可以理解，ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績
"ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績"
Can you explain what you meant by "交成績"?
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 11:31
nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 11:25
"ESF失去政府資助，以後要吸學生，點都要交下成績"
I mean they will become more selective and try to maintain certain academic levels.
作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-20 11:39
上面講成半reject 的可能是TC，TY冇一班咁差。綜合幾個WhatsApp 羣組的資信，我估TY約5%直接reject. 10-15% 要2nd interview. 我那班算0k，有一班唔知乜原因当初抽random no 時已幾乎半班reserved list!
我估今年最後至少有85， 甚至90%有offer. 肯定比前幾年平均97%低。
作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-20 11:40
858 發表於 17-2-20 11:22
What kind of family background are they looking for? Parents are doctors, barristers, engineers, acc ...
作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-20 11:47
今年出事的主要2個原因：當天情緒問題或坐唔定等，同埋唔出聲或回應少。佢地英文水平要求不高，行得IS這條路有好幾年的孩子冇乜邊個會有問題。
所以，覺得孩子有這些問題千其唔好期望面試老師令他們坐定或出声，要好好准備，唔好靠人
作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-20 11:57
lckfwylyk 發表於 17-2-20 10:20
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and ...
Do you mean Tsing Yi or Tung Chung?
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-20 12:04
VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 11:06
整合我自同老師同媽咪傾計嘅個人觀感：
英文同自理能力及social skills要求高。怕羞，攪攪震嘅學生一定輸蝕。
老師多次強調重要性，感覺上家長唔好諗著讀kinder有 priority就hea著算。
佢話non-selective係唔太睇academic, 仲要係foundation schools, RC一定睇academic.
RC Year 1 admission has always been selecting outgoing students. I think the reason is that they are a through train IB school and being shy and quiet would be a disadvantage. Having said that, they still look for students that can communicate well in English.
ESF Year 1 admission has always been screening students only with their English ability. However, the primary school (and soon secondary schools too) are now IB. So they also need to have children that are suitable to be in IB.
Thus, they are now moving towards selecting students with similar criteria as RC.
A lot of people say ESF is becoming academically selective.
I do not quite agree.
ESF/RC do not select students for Year 1 by looking at their academic skills. No written tests, no math tests.
I think that is definitely not academically selective.
Some may say, hey, for upper years (especially secondary admission), they have written tests, math tests, is that selective?
Wait!
You need to make sure students that join the school can catch up with class right?
If someone can hardly write a complete sentence in English, would you think he can cope with Year 9 curriculum?
If someone can hardly add and subtract, can he cope with Year 10 curriculum?
Well, these are more extreme examples, but I think the schools are only trying to make sure they take students that can cope with school.
I think it is not the Mission of ESF or RC to become elite schools. Rather, they are trying to become schools that can provide high quality education to students.
They are only setting up admission screening to make sure students that join that school can cope.
There have been lots of discussions of IB vs non-IB in other sub-section of EK.
There are certain qualities of a person that make him succeed in IB.
Being too shy and too quiet would not be advantageous in IB, but this same person might do very well in local school.
It is a "MATCHING" rather than "selection".
Some people would bloom in IB, some might be more suitable in other curriculum.
Having said that, at the age of 4 or 5 is probably still early to say whether a child is shy or quiet.
A shy person at age of 5, might become much more outgoing at age of 10.
So if you are really keen and like IB, keep observing your child.
And if you think he/she is ready, come back and apply.
Good luck.
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-20 12:13
964000 發表於 17-2-20 11:31
I mean they will become more selective and try to maintain certain academic levels.
So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more selective?
作者: kwokkellybb 時間: 17-2-20 12:24
All these are just wild guesses
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 12:26
nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:04
RC Year 1 admission has always been selecting outgoing students. I think the reason is that they a ...
yes, this could be why it seems more difficult to get a spot in foundation schools now. Teachers are always emphasizing the importance of social skills.
作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-20 13:13
貝珠 發表於 17-2-20 10:15
What is enhancement course ?
之後再觀察，到K2約九、十月，仍未達標的，加上一些上課太沉默的，學校會打俾家長，提供ehancement course, optional ,但一般會參加。
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 13:34
nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:13
So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more s ...
No need to be academic more selective, just be more selective to choose the suitable students, like people mentioned above, more outgoing, confident , compliant and articulate, these are collective of maturity and certain capabilities already.
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 13:36
nintendo 發表於 17-2-20 12:13
So you mean, with no subsidy, they academic level is harder to maintain, and this need to be more s ...
Academic level should not be harder to maintain, but they will have more incentive to maintain it.
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 13:52
At the end, I think ESF is still not too selective because I think it will still admit at least 90% of ESF kinder students, in batches as it used to be.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-20 13:52
As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no problem. Even their teachers said that they perform well in class and there was no enhancement class for them before. That's why their parents seem so disappointed and little angry about the result!
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 15:10
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 13:52
As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no pr ...
Exactly how many got reject? Are they applying for kjs? That's really strange, normally they will give second interview.
作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-20 15:33
We cannot explain this Year situation with its usual practice in the past.
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 15:50
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 13:52
As I observe, the English standard as well as the social skills of some rejected students have no pr ...
u are K2 TY parents?
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-20 15:50
VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 15:50
u are K2 TY parents?
Yes
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 15:53
Saboc 發表於 17-2-20 15:33
We cannot explain this Year situation with its usual practice in the past.
Maybe because they got more candidates from ESF kinder now, I think people should seriously consider applying for ESF primary on HKI, so far I didn't heard any ESF kinder kid got rejected/ waitlisted on HKI and they even have vacancies to admit non ESF Kinder kids. I think that's a more economical way than buying the NR. At the end, you can always transfer back to another ESF school according to your residential address.
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-2-20 15:57
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 15:50
Yes
did u find out how many kids in ur class got offer? thanks for sharing. seems it is quite ok for hong0706's class
作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-20 15:57
Yes, good strategy.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-20 16:52
VVhuilee 發表於 17-2-20 15:57
did u find out how many kids in ur class got offer? thanks for sharing. seems it is quite ok for ...
本帖最後由 Moonlight819 於 17-2-20 18:20 編輯
It's quite hard to find out as some of them don't disclose and so I can only know part of the picture.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-20 18:21
Does anybody know where did the waiting or rejected students go at the end in the past?
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-20 19:07
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-20 18:21
Does anybody know where did the waiting or rejected students go at the end in the past?
Most waiting did get a spot at the end.
I only knew one got reject, who kept total silence during all interviews, he finally got into local kinder k3 and surprisingly he fares well in local system, seems he likes to follow instructions and rules rather the feee style way
作者: ciaochibi 時間: 17-2-20 19:23
hong0706 發表於 17-2-20 13:13
大概K1近完結前，PYP coordinator 會個別測試每個小孩英語能力，睇下能否達到考小學要求，如： 放水杯係枱 ...
As far as I know, the teacher would discuss with u the way forward if they realize that your kid is marginal near the end of k1 term.
作者: AJW2010 時間: 17-2-21 18:09
lckfwylyk 發表於 17-2-20 10:20
our class with 18 students, only 6 got offer in the first round, for the rest, half are rejected and ...
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-21 18:31
ciaochibi 發表於 17-2-20 19:23
As far as I know, the teacher would discuss with u the way forward if they realize that your kid is ...
I know some cases that there wasn't any discussion with the teachers before and the teachers said their children have no problem, but at last get rejected!
作者: ciaochibi 時間: 17-2-21 18:38
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-21 18:31
I know some cases that there wasn't any discussion with the teachers before and the teachers said t ...
The discussion was not with class teacher but with the vice principal.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-21 18:42
ciaochibi 發表於 17-2-21 18:38
The discussion was not with class teacher but with the vice principal.
No also!
作者: ciaochibi 時間: 17-2-21 18:46
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-21 18:42
No also!
If u did not receive this call, I guess that your case is not imminent from their point of view.
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-6-6 11:32
Want to follow up on the final admission % into ESF Primary for ESF TY. Any K2 parents can share? thanks!
作者: edmondlukluk 時間: 17-6-6 12:17 標題: 回覆樓主
我個仔宜家讀Bradbury year 2, 記得兩年前佢interview, 我都好驚佢入唔到。好彩佢肯講野。英文雖然有口音（我太太平日係屋企同佢講日文），不過都收左佢。我估計，佢地主要睇小朋友夠唔夠主動。
另外，我請左一個係esf做嘅補習老師，佢近排先同我太太講開，話esf收生標準同以前係有d唔同，門檻高左....畢竟政府冇資助之後，佢地宜家可以用佢地自己訂下嘅準則收生....（雖然冇人知道係咩標準...）
我朋友今年都俾esf reject左....
作者: 964000 時間: 17-6-6 12:20
edmondlukluk 發表於 17-6-6 12:17
我個仔宜家讀Bradbury year 2, 記得兩年前佢interview, 我都好驚佢入唔到。好彩佢肯講野。英文雖然有口音（ ...
I think they don't just test English level, they also look for outgoing and inquisitive character which is more suitable for IB.
作者: edmondlukluk 時間: 17-6-6 12:22
964000 發表於 17-6-6 12:20
I think they don't just test English level, they also look for outgoing and inquisitive character w ...
係。我覺得主動學習最緊要。就算唔太識講，你肯主動答問題，都pass.
作者: 964000 時間: 17-6-6 12:40
edmondlukluk 發表於 17-6-6 12:22
係。我覺得主動學習最緊要。就算唔太識講，你肯主動答問題，都pass.
我見過有個男孩子，讀local kinder, 平日主要跟工人説英語，英文其實不是特別好，但佢勝在吾怕醜，平時在會所見到説英文的小孩也會主動搭咀，結果在设有priority之下，kjs也收了他入y1（幾年前）。
作者: 抺茶雪糕 時間: 17-6-6 12:45
i wonder if it's less competitive applying for KJS, BHS than SJS? thanks
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-6-6 13:40
964000 發表於 17-6-6 12:40
我見過有個男孩子，讀local kinder, 平日主要跟工人説英語，英文其實不是特別好，但佢勝在吾怕醜，平時在 ...
I think there would not be happened in recent years. I heard that the KJS is the most competitive this year and quite a few of kindy priority children even got rejected!
作者: VVhuilee 時間: 17-6-6 13:46
抺茶雪糕 發表於 17-6-6 12:45
i wonder if it's less competitive applying for KJS, BHS than SJS? thanks
SJS 2018/19 會係大競爭，因為wks有8班。
作者: 964000 時間: 17-6-6 16:41
Moonlight819 發表於 17-6-6 13:40
I think there would not be happened in recent years. I heard that the KJS is the most competitive t ...
係啦，佢真係超好采，之後仲帶埋細佬妹入ESF
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-10-26 22:25 標題: 回覆樓主
Did anyone know where are the children of the rejected cases finally go to?
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