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作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-1-24 15:32 標題: ESF vs NAIS

Dear all,
My daughter just got an offer from NAIS year 1 this year. She is studying in ESF k2 now, and mostly likely she will be admitted to KJS primary 1 this year. May I know which one is better in terms of curriculum and academic results?

NAIS is an educational organization that runs international schools around the world. There are 43 international schools worldwide. But its new in HK and have not yet produce public result yet. Whereas ESF has long history and are well known in HK, but i find out that the curriulum in ESF is quite loose and teachers are not that enthusiastic in teaching. Maybe it happens only in kindergarten. I m not sure about the primary.

Difficult to choose. Anyone that have kids in these two schools can share?

Thanks a lot

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-1-24 17:38

anyone can share? thanks a lot!

作者: connieluo 時間: 17-1-24 18:39

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I don't think ESF teachers are loose and are not willing to teach. They are adopting IB for which caring, cooperation, listening, inquiry are key skills they are trying to teach/explore from students rather than "paperwork knowledge". I think traditional teaching is not suitable for today's social/working environment. Instead, what ESF is promoting is more important. It is the skills of important in daily working life rather than those knowledge we learnt at school.

作者: workmama 時間: 17-1-24 18:40

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Vote for EF KJS!

作者: dtemplar 時間: 17-2-8 13:36

I kind of like NAIS where she values science and language are important tools for child development, and there are quite a few non-asian students that gives it a good mix in the class, also it's easy for your kid to transfer to other NAIS schools in other countries (if u r relocating etc). However, there have been news about NAIS regarding how she charges (and change the charges) on school fees etc. the commercial elements in NAIS seems heavy (i.e. profit making). The teacher refers the school as "our company" than "school" when I had a school visit there.

ESF is good for sure. However, government is cutting their subsidies and the teachers' benefits aren't as good as before (apparently), and so some good teachers seeks oppuntunities in other private international schools.

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-2-8 13:43

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so what are the new charges for NAIS now?

作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-2-8 15:24

dtemplar 發表於 17-2-8 13:36
I kind of like NAIS where she values science and language are important tools for child development, ...

NAIS: The capital enrollment fee has been increased from 80 k to 100 k for 2017/18 intake. There have been discussions on imposing annual levy policy but was under pending at the moment.
We have asked the principal about the balance between profit target as a listed company (in the us) and running education, he told us that NAIS in hk is non profit making. Guess not allowed by EDB?

作者: hillywind 時間: 17-2-8 16:47

dtemplar 發表於 17-2-8 13:36
I kind of like NAIS where she values science and language are important tools for child development, ...

Seems you are quite familiar with ESF. May I know your comment to Renaissance College (the Independent school of esf?) thank you!

作者: YYNGSUKI 時間: 17-2-8 17:03

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I have same experience from some of the teacher in ESF Kindy. However, it's only happened with some of the teacher. But due to the systematic IB program, I found my daughter could still have a bright development over the years of the kindergarten. She is studying in RC now, i satisfied with this school very much! Thd teacher are nice and energetic. And the same thing "well established IB system" make everything in the right track. I never have the feeling as most of the comment that parent will got lost about the progress of the kids learning in IS. The school use different means to allow the parent have a zero distance to know what are the kids learning.

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-8 17:17

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After reading what you wrote, i feel more confident sending my kid to ESF kindergarten. May i know the admission rate from ESF kindergarten to ESF primary is really that high as i heard, like 9X%? Is it true?

作者: elmostoney 時間: 17-2-9 10:23

This question is self-responding because ESF parents will vote for ESF and vice-versa.

作者: MrsWhite 時間: 17-8-31 08:37

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-1-24 15:32
Dear all,
My daughter just got an offer from NAIS year 1 this year. She is studying in ESF k2 now, a ...

Hi there may I know which school did you choose at last ? Thank you

作者: 抺茶雪糕 時間: 17-8-31 12:50

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-1-24 15:32
Dear all,
My daughter just got an offer from NAIS year 1 this year. She is studying in ESF k2 now, a ...

We are very interested in nais, may I know what is the format of the interview? Thanks

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-8-31 23:39

I choose Nais finally.
For the interview, I don't know coz my daughter go inside the room by herself. I only remember she told me she was tested on some maths. I think most of the IS simply assess the child's ability in understanding and speaking in English.

作者: 964000 時間: 17-9-1 09:25

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-8-31 23:39
I choose Nais finally.
For the interview, I don't know coz my daughter go inside the room by hersel ...

Good for you! I pm you.

作者: jk121299 時間: 17-9-1 10:21 標題: 回覆樓主

NAIS

作者: heihei33 時間: 17-9-1 13:12

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-8-31 23:39
I choose Nais finally.
For the interview, I don't know coz my daughter go inside the room by hersel ...

Would u mind to share yr choice of nais? (rather than esf)

作者: heihei33 時間: 17-9-1 15:12

heihei33 發表於 17-9-1 13:12
Would u mind to share yr choice of nais? (rather than esf)

I mean why u choose nais rather than esf?

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-9-3 02:05

I stuggled a lot when i made up a decision at that time, but i finally pick Nais.

I pick NAIS finally because of several reasons.

1. I prefer a more structured curriculum when kids are in primary stage. I dont mind IB in secondary, but I perfer more solid foundation when kids are young.

2. I prefer smaller class size. Nais has a class of 22 while ESF has 30. Besides the students mix of NAIS is more international and British whereas there are mostly chinese and Indians in KJS

3. There are 46 campuses in the world for Nais. They are run by very experienced educational organization for a very long time, so even though its new, I have faith in them. I think what NAIS can offer is quit unique. The Global Campus helps students explore the world, learn new skills and develop a truly international perspective through outstanding online, in-school and worldwide experiences. In Nais , students can really boarden their horizon. They are not merely interactiing with their classmates in hk, but in the world. The school provide lots of opportunities for students to meet with in different campus in the world, for competition, performance, cultural exchange ....

4. The music program and science program are terrific. The music curriculum is run collaborately with prestigious Juilliard art school. Students have the chance to go to Juilliard for intensive training and performance. Moreover, it has a partnership with MIT to provide STEAM programmes. I heard there are a few children actually went to MIT this year

5. There are swimming class, art, drama every week. They are not taught as ECA after school but are comulsory in the curriculum. Besides, there are lots of ECA (free of charge) to choose from after school, wheres you have to pay ECA in ESF.

6. They offer summer prgrammes and boarding programmes in Nord Anglia education group world wide.

If you are intersted in getting to know more about Nord, you better arrange school visit. Take a look of their website, facebook and youtube, you can find tons of information.

Hope it helps.

作者: heihei33 時間: 17-9-3 10:24

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-9-3 02:05
I stuggled a lot when i made up a decision at that time, but i finally pick Nais.

I pick NAIS final ...

Very informative, thx

作者: MrsWhite 時間: 17-9-5 00:12

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-9-3 02:05
I stuggled a lot when i made up a decision at that time, but i finally pick Nais.

I pick NAIS final ...

Thanks a lot for your sharing !
It is very useful

Maybe I know where is the campus for year 1 ?
Lam tin or Sai kung ?
Thanks

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-9-5 12:16

MrsWhite 發表於 17-9-5 00:12
Thanks a lot for your sharing !
It is very useful

i think both. But you better check with the school. I m not familiar with the arrangement of the new campus. Likely Sai Kung one would take in students from reception to year 3. Lam Tin is through train from year 1-13.

作者: Coffeekk 時間: 17-9-5 13:19

Do you know if NAIS parent have any whatsapp group / tools to commuicate? Thanks a lot.

作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-9-5 13:30

Coffeekk 發表於 17-9-5 13:19
Do you know if NAIS parent have any whatsapp group / tools to commuicate? Thanks a lot.

Are u current NAIS parent? Which year?

作者: Coffeekk 時間: 17-9-5 14:04

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2018 - Nursery.

作者: jk121299 時間: 17-9-6 17:50

Coffeekk 發表於 17-9-5 14:04
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2018 - Nursery.

You already got an offer for 2018 nursery?

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-9-6 22:40

抺茶雪糕發表於 17-8-31 12:50
We are very interested in nais, may I know what is the format of the interview? Thanks

In march, NAIS was inspected by the Independent Schools Inspectorate. It was a very thorough and rigorous inspection of every aspect of school life covering nine areas which were being assessed. The ISI inspects Independent Schools in the UK, is validated by OFSTED and accredited by the UK Government to conduct inspections around the world to those standards.

The school achieved the higheset possible accolade: scoring the top grade ~EXCELLENT~ in all nine categories

For those who are interested in NAIS, you may click the link below to view the report. Hope it helps.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/346533182094021?view=permalink&id=1373502539397075

作者: Katherinee 時間: 17-9-8 14:52

Coffeekk 發表於 17-9-5 14:04
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2018 - Nursery.

We year 1 have a group

作者: sammypsng 時間: 17-9-16 23:32 標題: 回覆樓主

We have an offer for nursery 2017/18 but due to the delay in commissioning of the Tin Wan campus we have decided to defer our offer to reception 2018/19. Anyone knows the progress of the Tin Wan campus ?

作者: funfun0209 時間: 17-9-30 18:18

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Now your kid has started school at NAIS, does the school meet your expectations? Would you mind sharing your experience with the school? Thanks.

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-10-3 17:11 標題: 回覆樓主:

My daughter have started the school for slightly more than one month now. She likes it very much and settled very well.
Its still too early to tell about how good/or not good is the school. So far I m quited satisfied with the commmunication between the school and parents. They respond very quickly when problem arise. The curriculum is well structured and well informed to parents before start of school. The music curriculum is awesome coz it is run with prestigious Juilliard art school. Besides there is swiimming class, art, drama every week, not being taught as ECA after school, but in the curriculum..
There are also lots of ECA(free of charge) to choose from after school.

I think the global campus online is also very unique for NAIS. There are 46 schools around the world. There are lots of opportunities for students to meet others students from around the world, to have competition between different campus in the world, for cultural exchange, for performance....I think students from NAIS can really boarden their horizon. I like this platform very much. My daughter is too young to make use of the global campus online. But I see some year 3 students have writing competition with other students in other campus. Their English standard is very high....If kids can really make use of this platform, they can gain a lot of knowledge, experience, different cultures... among all the different campuses within the NAIS family

Hope it helps !

作者: saijanjan 時間: 17-10-27 11:36

nicolelaiyy 發表於 17-10-3 17:11
My daughter have started the school for slightly more than one month now. She likes it very much and ...

May i ask if your kids is an overseas passport holder

作者: nicolelaiyy 時間: 17-10-27 11:42

saijanjan 發表於 17-10-27 11:36
May i ask if your kids is an overseas passport holder

No, we are locals

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