教育王國

標題: Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB) [打印本頁]

作者: bkmum2005 時間: 16-12-2 17:17 標題: Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB)

真心想知CU, HKU, 科大等出 Conditional Offer 睇吾睇EE and TOK？我女兒學校出的Predicted Grade 沒有EE and TOK 的分！

另外，如果學校 under estimate, 大學沒有俾Conditional Offer, 但最後IB 成績比PG好，會不會再 consider？可否將最後的IB成績再向大學 submit? 請指教！

作者: brother4 時間: 16-12-2 18:42 標題: 回覆：Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB)

EE 同TOK?總有人有offer選擇放棄，最後應成績向大學報，三大會回覆的。講番真實如AL，比IB通知成績遲約ㄧ個月，8月中才有，三大冇offer,最後AL成績出來比預期差，第一間話offer派晒，問考慮另一科有位，試咗但拒絕了，第二間因offer派晒，可下年再試，第三間掹車邊收咗。。。。都係果句自古成功在嘗試!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-12-3 11:29

bkmum2005 發表於 16-12-2 17:17
真心想知CU, HKU, 科大等出 Conditional Offer 睇吾睇EE and TOK？我女兒學校出的Predicted Grade 沒有EE ...

Conditional Offer 睇吾睇EE and TOK？ 6 modules reflected the student's academic profile, core - they may add 1-2 and then more or less know the PG.

No conditional offers is pretty normal in HK, unless your PG and interviews are excellent. When her actual score released, university will contact her for interview or directly offer a space (she had interview before) if her score is up to the par.

*******

My son's experience, he was interviewed by Big 3 in different programs, only UST had a conditional offer, all others needed to wait for IBDP result released - interviews, rejected and offers.

作者: manning2014 時間: 16-12-3 11:39

回覆 bkmum2005 的帖子

For non-jupas admission in HK, conditional offer does not make much difference. As long as you got good grade, for example, if you got 44-45 points, both university medicine program will accept you without any hesitation.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-3 12:00

Oh. Interesting. My son's school did give predicated score for EE+TOK. There is actually a space for him to submit the predicated EE+TOK grades on the online form. He only applied to CUHK so not sure about other universities.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-3 12:05

ANChan59 發表於 16-12-3 11:29
Conditional Offer 睇吾睇EE and TOK？ 6 modules reflected the student's academic profile, core - they ...

Your son applied to 神科 with HKU and CUHK and those might be different?
May be most other programs do give conditional offers.

作者: brother4 時間: 16-12-3 12:07 標題: 回覆：Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB)

ib有45分是狀元，未出成績一早收咗

見41分可入医的。。

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-3 12:22

本帖最後由 Artie 於 16-12-3 12:25 編輯

brother4 發表於 16-12-3 12:07
ib有45分是狀元，未出成績一早收咗見41分可入医的。。

Do you know what you are talking about?
You do not seem to know much about how the "predicted grades" and "final grades" work.

PG 45 is not 狀元。
You need a final grades of 45 to be named as 狀元.

As far as I know, you need a PG of 44 (or may be at least a PG of 43) to even get into the interview stage of medicine.
The 41 you said, is probably a condition only.

作者: brother4 時間: 16-12-3 12:48 標題: 回覆：Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB)

thx,自己腦退化有可能，好似番D舊post講,IB放榜前一日大學一早知狀元是誰，問定入医。。。用亞大AL成績講，學校考A，估坐A有B，但出來是E

一樣照報

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-12-3 13:24

Artie 發表於 16-12-3 12:05
Your son applied to 神科 with HKU and CUHK and those might be different?
May be most other program ...

I see.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-3 14:11

brother4 發表於 16-12-3 12:48
IB放榜前一日大學一早知狀元是誰

IB results can be checked online.
If I remember it right, the time we could login to check the results was afternoon Hong Kong time.
Students of course would apply in advance to medical school. Otherwise, how can medical schools get their phone number? I am not exactly sure when universities can get hold of applicant's final IB grades. But since everything is done electronically, I am not surprised universities get the information at the same time students and secondary schools get them. Thus universities can thus initiate the phone calls right after the results are released, and so it would be in the evening hong kong time.
There is no such thing as IB放榜前一日 anyone knows the result.
Hong Kong newspaper coverage can only be done on the next day (or even after). May be that is why there was misunderstanding.

I would not comment on AL as I am not exactly familiar.
Final IB grades is roughly 20-30% internal assessment score, and 70-80% public exam score.
The only subject that has no public exam is I think visual arts. They have to deal with external crit instead of a written exam.
So the PG (which is based on internal assessments plus teachers prediction) can be different from final IB score.
However like I said, PG are good and fair estimate of students final grades. But anything can happen. All really depends on the performance (and luck) of students at the May exams.

作者: brother4 時間: 16-12-3 16:25 標題: 回覆：Conditional Offer for Non JUPAS (IB)

本帖最後由 brother4 於 16-12-3 20:45 編輯

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-12-5 17:04

Artie 發表於 16-12-3 12:05
Your son applied to 神科 with HKU and CUHK and those might be different?
May be most other program ...

神科一樣會出 conditional offer ，要 PG 高分 + interview 過關。
如果 PG 未夠大學要求的 threshold，大學會睇定 d ，等埋 final grade。

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-12-5 17:16

bkmum2005 發表於 16-12-2 17:17
另外，如果學校 under estimate, 大學沒有俾Conditional Offer, 但最後IB 成績比PG好，會不會再 consider？可否將最後的IB成績再向大學 submit? 請指教！

老師係看一年半的表現去做 estimation，你平時分數如何，PG 也不會高或低很多。
恕我直言，事有因果。是否近期較 hea ? 對老師態度如何？
平時幾多分？PG 幾多？甚麼狀況覺得老師 under estimate ?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-12-6 11:01

nintendo 發表於 16-12-5 17:04
神科一樣會出 conditional offer ，要 PG 高分 + interview 過關。
如果 PG 未夠大學要求的 threshold，大 ...

Agree.

作者: Lamtau 時間: 16-12-7 11:31

回覆 bkmum2005 的帖子

Asked HKU Admission Office. If a student's PG is not good enough to secure a conditional offer are the regular admission round, he/she can submit the final grade for reconsideration when the FG is available.
I am just curious to know if his chance of being admitted finally will be lower than the case where the PG was more accurate.

作者: manning2014 時間: 16-12-7 12:14

Lamtau 發表於 16-12-7 11:31
回覆 bkmum2005 的帖子

Asked HKU Admission Office. If a student's PG is not good enough to secure a ...

No, as long as your child has got better final result than others who also has no conditional offer or failed their conditional offers. For HKU (and most universities in HK) admission, what they care most is candidate's final result.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-7 12:45

Lamtau 發表於 16-12-7 11:31
回覆 bkmum2005 的帖子

Asked HKU Admission Office. If a student's PG is not good enough to secure a ...

For all universities (HK or overseas), they will consider the "latest" grades available.
Before the FG is released, you have to rely on the PG.
But once the FG is out, they no longer care what your PG was and they do not really care whether your PG was accurate.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-12-8 13:31

Artie 發表於 16-12-3 14:11
IB results can be checked online.
If I remember it right, the time we could login to check the res ...

"Students of course would apply in advance to medical school. Otherwise, how can medical schools get their phone number?"

I recalled an IB perfect score student claimed he got a call from HKU medicine offering a place for him even though he had not applied. That was in the news last year or so. Not sure how accurate it was.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-8 22:12

本帖最後由 Artie 於 16-12-8 22:19 編輯

poonseelai 發表於 16-12-8 13:31
I recalled an IB perfect score student claimed he got a call from HKU medicine offering a place for him even though he had not applied. That was in the news last year or so. Not sure how accurate it was.

I remembered that discussion one year ago.
I think someone shared that the student did apply to other programs at HKU.
Otherwise, how do you think they got his number?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-12-9 10:05

Artie 發表於 16-12-8 22:12
I remembered that discussion one year ago.
I think someone shared that the student did apply to oth ...

題外話。

如果學生沒有申請某一課程，但收生辦事處將學生個人資料/私隠未經許可之下，告知非處理有關資料人事，是否违反私隱？

作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-12-9 12:02

ANChan59 發表於 16-12-9 10:05
題外話。

如果學生沒有申請某一課程，但收生辦事處將學生個人資料/私隠未經許可之下，告知非處理有關資料 ...

為何認為是收生辦事處做的呢?會不會是那學生所讀的學校?收生辦事處應不會那麼早知道學生的IB成績,亦應該無咁積極。

作者: bristol 時間: 16-12-9 12:15

poonseelai 發表於 16-12-8 13:31
"Students of course would apply in advance to medical school. Otherwise, how can medical schools get ...

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20150819/19261618

學校在放榜前一晚已得知學生的 IB 成績，我相信 HKU 是在放榜前從學校取得尖子電話，再 cold call 。在個人資料私隱角度看，做法值得相榷

作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-12-9 12:56

bristol 發表於 16-12-9 12:15
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20150819/19261618

學校在放榜前一晚已得知學生的 IB 成績，我 ...

放榜前一晚,是否應該只有所讀的中學知道學生的IB成績?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-12-9 14:05

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 16-12-9 12:56
放榜前一晚,是否應該只有所讀的中學知道學生的IB成績?

不是，是學生，學校及各地申請的大學收生辦事處同步知道！

如果學校或大學洩密，都是有問題！

作者: bristol 時間: 16-12-9 14:06

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 16-12-9 12:56
放榜前一晚,是否應該只有所讀的中學知道學生的IB成績?

以今年為例，5/7/2016放榜，學校在5/7/2016取得所有學生成績，學生可在6/7/2016上 ibo 網查詢成績。有些學校在 6/7/2016 早上在學校分發成績，早 ibo 網半日。

http://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/assessment-and-exams/getting-results/

Schools actually receive the results on the afternoon of July 5 and can issue them on paper at that point if they wish.
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/content.php?r=4634-A-Step-by-Step-Guide-to-IB-Results-Day

The results are available at https://candidates.ibo.org from 7pm Hong Kong time on 6th July.
http://shatincollege.edu.hk/release-of-ib-examination-results/

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-12-9 19:40

bristol 發表於 16-12-9 14:06
以今年為例，5/7/2016放榜，學校在5/7/2016取得所有學生成績，學生可在6/7/2016上 ibo 網查詢成績。有些學 ...

如無記錯，公佈成績當日香港時間上午已有學校同IB狀元一同接受訪問，咁即學校会比考生早知成績?

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-10 13:03

本帖最後由 Artie 於 16-12-10 13:06 編輯

ANChan59 發表於 16-12-9 10:05
題外話。

如果學生沒有申請某一課程，但收生辦事處將學生個人資料/私隠未經許可之下，告知非處理有關資料 ...

Honestly, it is really hard to say what exactly happened. It might not be the whole story the student revealed. I am sure there are much more full scores students that were being contacted once results were out. But so far, not many students let these cats out. I have total respect to those that kept these matters to private.

作者: Artie 時間: 16-12-10 13:10

bristol 發表於 16-12-9 14:06
以今年為例，5/7/2016放榜，學校在5/7/2016取得所有學生成績，學生可在6/7/2016上 ibo 網查詢成績。有些學 ...

So that solved the mystery.
HKU cannot possibly know who got full score early unless secondary schools informed them.

歡迎光臨教育王國 (/)