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作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-27 13:37     標題: UCSB vs Cornell

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My nephew studying in California got accepted and is deciding between these two. UC Santa Barbara offers full scholarship whereas Cornell costs about USD50k a year (tuition).  My sister believes where he goes for his bachelor's degree isn't as important as grad school and UCSB is closer to home but she will let him choose. He plans to take biology. What do you think?
作者: elbar    時間: 16-10-27 14:35

heebo 發表於 16-10-27 13:37
My nephew studying in California got accepted and is deciding between these two. UC Santa Barbara of ...
如果錢不是問題,就取 Cornell

作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-27 18:06

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使多百幾萬,真系好難講值吾值得。



作者: mugtaitai    時間: 16-10-29 10:22

heebo 發表於 16-10-27 18:06
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使多百幾萬,真系好難講值吾值得。
整體來講,Cornell 係比 UCSB prestigious,但都要睇埋小朋友想讀嘅學科邊間好 d,再者,學校嘅地點都係考慮因素,Cornell 都幾偏僻,我帶仔去過一次,校園的確優美,但周圍除了學校就是學校,我地夏天去,阿仔已經覺得難捱,漫長的冬天不知如何渡過
作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-29 13:42

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mugtaitai 發表於 16-10-29 10:22
整體來講,Cornell 係比 UCSB prestigious,但都要睇埋小朋友想讀嘅學科邊間好 d,再者,學校嘅地點都係考 ...

謝謝你的提醒,ivy league的名氣是很吸引的,不過我的家姐、姐夫偏向選擇加州大學,可能學費也是一個考慮。除了上述兩間外,UCSD亦是考慮之一,但要待recruit trip之後才知offer多少獎學金。
作者: Artie    時間: 16-10-29 14:39

If money is a concern, then the answer is obvious. And from what you said, they probably also tend to choose UCSB right?
For people who wants to major in experimental sciences, I guess they would most probably consider grad school as well. In that case, a way to safe money is to attend UCSB (if they really offer that much scholarship/funds), work hard and then apply to ivy grad school.
作者: lijacq    時間: 16-10-29 16:48

heebo 發表於 16-10-27 13:37
My nephew studying in California got accepted and is deciding between these two. UC Santa Barbara of ...

I think if the kid is very smart and get very good grades in Cornell and no concern on money, then Cornell may be a good choice.  But if the kid plans to go to grad school 100% sure, then UCSB is a more sensible choice.
Also UCSB has a CCB school which seems very interesting and works very closely with professors to do research, but not sure if there are any biology-related major in CCB.

作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-29 16:55

Artie 發表於 16-10-29 14:39
If money is a concern, then the answer is obvious. And from what you said, they probably also tend t ...
You are right.  But while he can apply for grad school later with ivy league colleges, we never know whether he will get the offer again.  Does an ivy league degree really make a difference?
作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-29 17:48

lijacq 發表於 16-10-29 16:48
I think if the kid is very smart and get very good grades in Cornell and no concern on money, then  ...
It's hard to say if he will get very good grades. What is CCB ?
作者: lijacq    時間: 16-10-29 17:51

heebo 發表於 16-10-29 17:48
It's hard to say if he will get very good grades. What is CCB ?

Sorry, should be CCS.  College of Creative Studies.  
"Biology in the College of Creative Studies provides intensive study for students preparing for a career in research in the life sciences and associated fields."

作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-29 21:31

lijacq 發表於 16-10-29 17:51
Sorry, should be CCS.  College of Creative Studies.  
"Biology in the College of Creative Studies p ...
Thanks lijacq. I have passed your info for my nephew to consider.
作者: Artie    時間: 16-10-30 13:26

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heebo 發表於 16-10-29 16:55
You are right.  But while he can apply for grad school later with ivy league colleges, we never know whether he will get the offer again.  Does an ivy league degree really make a difference?

Actually, to make it short, my views are same as the comment in #2


作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-30 13:43

Artie 發表於 16-10-30 13:26
Actually, to make it short, my views are same as the comment in #2
I agree.  Thanks.
作者: mugtaitai    時間: 16-10-31 11:49

heebo 發表於 16-10-29 13:42
謝謝你的提醒,ivy league的名氣是很吸引的,不過我的家姐、姐夫偏向選擇加州大學,可能學費也是一個考慮 ...
如果意向係讀 Biology,會不會考慮 UC Berkeley?不久前 Mark Zuckerberg 夫婦捐了 3 billion 美金,在 UCSF 成立一個 biohub,匯集 UCSF,UC Berkeley 同 Stanford 嘅科學家,一同研究,我覺得未來 biomedical 喺 the Bay Area 會有好大潛力
作者: heebo    時間: 16-10-31 13:52

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mugtaitai 發表於 16-10-31 11:49
如果意向係讀 Biology,會不會考慮 UC Berkeley?不久前 Mark Zuckerberg 夫婦捐了 3 billion 美金,在 UCS ...

Thanks for the info mugtaitai.  My sister didn't mention UC Berkeley so I'm not sure if they get an offer or not.  Among those that offered, they have narrowed down to Cornell and two UCs as they don't want to go on too many recruit trips.  If I were her, I would want to see more before deciding.

作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-1 13:06

家人認為無需要使多甘多錢讀名牌大學都可以有好的發展,所以偏向選擇加州大學算了。

多年前我的另一個姨甥Columbia收了,但因經濟考慮,最後讀加州大學,畢業後公司供他在USC讀Master,UCSB再給他full ride & allowance讀PhD。他很滿意現在的工作,亦沒有後悔當年放棄讀Columbia的機會。

作者: ACE2126    時間: 16-11-1 14:16

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作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-1 14:24

ACE2126 發表於 16-11-1 14:16
UCSB offer is more attractive.
Yes.  UCSD only offers USD5,000.

作者: elbar    時間: 16-11-1 15:19

heebo 發表於 16-11-1 13:06
家人認為無需要使多甘多錢讀名牌大學都可以有好的發展,所以偏向選擇加州大學算了。

多年前我的另一個姨甥 ...
如果係 UCB, UCLA 名氣不俗

作者: mugtaitai    時間: 16-11-1 22:22

heebo 發表於 16-11-1 13:06
家人認為無需要使多甘多錢讀名牌大學都可以有好的發展,所以偏向選擇加州大學算了。

多年前我的另一個姨甥 ...
其實 UC 都係一間好大學
作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-2 00:14

加州大學中,UCB係最top,入倒要與最top的同學競爭,要keep住高的GPA唔容易,有名的次選便是UCLA。我姨甥當年考10科AP(AP Scholar with Distinction)加埋近滿分的SAT成績,獲州政府發獎學金,但UCLA卻沒有offer獎學金,可能競爭太大。
作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-4 17:21

姨甥去過UCSB的recruit trip後非常喜歡UCSB,加上免學費,差不多想立即口頭接受offer。上星期再去UCSD,同樣十分喜歡,他問interviewer為什麼他要選擇UCSD而不是UCSB時,對方為他分析說他的將來比partying更重要(UCSB是一間party school),UCSD的讀書風氣較認真,如果他準備主修Biology再入醫科的話,UCSD較強,更是適合,visit期間姨甥亦主動與一些Biology的學生傾談,加深對大學生活的認識,幾天後UCSD再提高了獎學金。他就這樣決定入讀UCSD。
作者: kingkongdaddy    時間: 16-11-8 01:38

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不好意思,我有些不明白,我想問一下,今年UC application for first year 11月30日deadline, result 在明年3月公佈。而Cornell apply regular decision 明年才開始報 !為何你的親戚現在11月就收到兩間的offer?

作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-8 09:46

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kingkongdaddy 發表於 16-11-8 01:38
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不好意思,我有些不明白,我想問一下,今年UC application for first year 11月30日dea ...



是這樣的,大學的recruiter每年也會向運動員招手,早在Grade11便開始邀請他們入讀,我的姨甥運動和讀書的成績也不錯,所以收到多間大學的offer。每個學生可以去五個recruit trip(三日兩夜),機票,食宿,活動全部由大學負責,需要獎學金的話最後需於十一月中前落實決定。






作者: dlam141231    時間: 16-11-8 10:38

heebo 發表於 16-11-8 09:46
是這樣的,大學的recruiter每年也會向運動員招手,早在Grade11便開始邀請他們入讀,我的姨甥運動和讀書 ...

原來有這麼一回事, 運動和成績雙優的學生, 有這樣另纇美好的安排.

作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-8 19:58

這是给學術以外成績的多一份肯定,當然學校亦希望藉此吸納優秀的運動員加入校隊。
作者: kingkongdaddy    時間: 16-11-8 22:24

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請問如果不介意可否在此分享一下他的運動成就和學業成績?
謝謝!


作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-10 13:18

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說不上成就,但在南加州學界游泳錦標賽中,他得到兩項冠軍,在全國NCSA游泳錦標賽中,亦是finalist八名之內。至於學業,每天花上數小時練水之餘仍是Honor roll student已很不錯



作者: manning2014    時間: 16-11-10 15:51

以運動入美國名牌大學? 香港直接去都唔少例子。出名嘅有港隊女游手。早幾年男拔都有個打網球入咗哈佛。朋友個仔早二年以打網球入 John Hopkins。只要去到港隊A隊,讀書唔太差,學校有好嘅 reference, 就多好大機會入到美國名牌大學,有埋 scholarship。
作者: dlam141231    時間: 16-11-10 16:28

優秀運動員的特質是意志力強, 不容易放棄, 個性也積極向前望的多.   再加上學業成績上佳, 取得名校學位和奬學金也是實至名歸.
作者: heebo    時間: 16-11-11 09:41

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代表香港參加奧運的泳手Geoffrey Cheah當年也入了Stanford。根據College Recruit的資料,全美排行前十名的泳手2017年有三個入UCB,兩個入Stanford。



作者: manning2014    時間: 16-11-11 11:36

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Too many examples, just pick a few that well known to HK parents.
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/蔡曉慧

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/江忞懿

http://hkswim.com/swimmer/flora.html

All swimmers who went to UCB.

作者: lijacq    時間: 16-11-16 22:19

manning2014 發表於 16-11-11 11:36
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Too many examples, just pick a few that well known to HK parents.

當年李啟淦也是在夏威夷游泳比賽給UCB 教練 recruit 入了UCB.





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