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作者: msmiu    時間: 16-10-17 15:49     標題: ISF - feeling like in Shenzhen

Never been to any school interview where I feel like I'm a foreigner

This is like a mini Shenzhen

Any local hk in ISF that can share experience please? What the Peers are like?

作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 16-10-17 16:00

Haha, the whole of HK is feeling more and more like ShenZhen, that is why another wave of emigration is quietly underway

This is not to say there is anything wrong with ShenZhen, there are people who relish and flourish in that kind of environment.
作者: 無際星塵    時間: 16-10-17 16:00

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作者: yyevita    時間: 16-10-17 16:11

relax, ISF is designed for HongKongers, otherwise it won't stick to traditional chinese, even if they need to "translate" the text books.
作者: hksunshine    時間: 16-10-17 17:03

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may i know why like mini Shenzhen ?   

are there mainly shenzhen children  ?  thx !


作者: 964000    時間: 16-10-17 17:15

msmiu 發表於 16-10-17 15:49
Never been to any school interview where I feel like I'm a foreigner

This is like a mini Shenzhen  ...

After they have increased their demand in mandarin level for reception years interview, you will expect that mainlanders will become advantageous.

作者: 964000    時間: 16-10-17 17:16

FattyDaddy 發表於 16-10-17 16:00
Haha, the whole of HK is feeling more and more like ShenZhen, that is why another wave of emigration ...

Actually even CIS, Yiu Chung and any IS with heavy Chinese teaching are overwhelmed with mainlanders too.

作者: canteen31    時間: 16-10-17 17:22

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My daughter and I went to ISF kinder interview last year, we were basically bullied by a b6 parent......There were 6 seats with 3 parents and their respective child, the b6 took 3 seats (meaning i have no seat) and when i politely asked her for a seat, she told me to 將就一下佢, the interviewer had to tell them to give up the seat.... during the group interview, the mother disrupted my daughter many times while my daughter was answering questions, she also mentioned that she lives in Bel-Air many times.....

I dunno if her son got a place in the end, but we gave up the offer.....
Im not saying all b6 are like that, but this is my experience during the interview only.....


作者: lovecasey    時間: 16-10-17 17:25

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the reality is more and more mainlander are studying in IS. they will be the majority at most IS in the foreseeable future...

作者: yyevita    時間: 16-10-17 17:53

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Why the parent can join the kids' group interview last year?  

作者: canteen31    時間: 16-10-17 17:57

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sorry i meant kindergarten interview
作者: hksunshine    時間: 16-10-17 17:59

canteen31 發表於 16-10-17 17:22
My daughter and I went to ISF interview last year, we were basically bullied by a b6 parent......The ...

thanks for your sharing and that was really bad and impolite !!  


Did you give up the offer due to this bad experience ?  thx !



作者: 964000    時間: 16-10-17 18:14

canteen31 發表於 16-10-17 17:57
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sorry i meant kindergarten interview

Are u using mandarin as interview language? In my time I chose English as interview language I guess 1/3 are mainlanders and the others are mainly local people. Anyway I have not taken the offer too.

作者: canteen31    時間: 16-10-17 19:16

964000 發表於 16-10-17 18:14
Are u using mandarin as interview language? In my time I chose English as interview language I gues ...
I used english and that parent spoke decent english with mandarin. It was quite funny she tried to mention the word "Bel-Aire" in all her responses. I think the others were mainly local people too.
Anyway, i hope the interviewer  had noted these parents behaviours, since parents plays a big part in a childs development and behaviour. I must emphasis again my bad experience doesn't mean all parents from china are like that.

作者: 無際星塵    時間: 16-10-17 19:40

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作者: Woojba    時間: 16-10-17 20:07     標題: 回覆:ISF - feeling like in Shenzhen

If indeed that's the trend then it is a shame.  speaking as an ex-ISF and CIS parent we haven't experienced anything unpleasant or awkward.  K1 K2 probably feels 20% mainland tops.




作者: DreamKid    時間: 16-10-17 23:19

My friend from mainland China said that ISF is a very popular school among mainlanders.  

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-18 11:25

lovecasey 發表於 16-10-17 17:25
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the reality is more and more mainlander are studying in IS. they will be the maj ...

No. At least  not what I see it most other IS.

作者: ericwong520    時間: 16-10-20 21:05

msmiu 發表於 16-10-17 15:49
Never been to any school interview where I feel like I'm a foreigner

This is like a mini Shenzhen  ...

may I know why you had this feeling?

作者: 無際星塵    時間: 16-10-20 21:49

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作者: torunpoland    時間: 16-10-20 23:38

A few days ago, I had a casual chat with my kid's class teacher. As it was the first and informal meeting, we talked something like where we live, how we knew the school, questions of this sort for him to better know us. Interestingly, he revealed that he had an interview with an applicant who lives in Shenzhen. He asked the parents when they would plan to get up to send the kid to the school, the parents answered 4:30am. The teacher replied he couldn't let the kid in, since it'd surely be a daily disaster for the kid to commute like this.
作者: canteen31    時間: 16-10-21 12:46

torunpoland 發表於 16-10-20 23:38
A few days ago, I had a casual chat with my kid's class teacher. As it was the first and informal me ...

Maybe the school didn't think they are wealthy enough to buy a place in HK?! Hahaha.... just kidding.

作者: ericwong520    時間: 16-10-21 14:32

無際星塵 發表於 16-10-20 21:49
那麼簡單仲要問

I know there are many mainlanders to apply.  but heard from friends they are not majority.  is that just because there were many mainland kids in her interview group?

作者: Artie    時間: 16-10-21 14:45

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As far as I know, ISF is probably one of the very few international schools (i.e. schools with non-local curriculum) that have strong emphasis with chinese. I read it from EK that their lower grade classes have 70% chinese + 30% english. This is definitely much more easy for children from mainland to adapt to. I think it does make sense if mainland families tend to choose ISF.
And is it quite common that Chinese people (including Hong Kongers) tend to flock together anyway. Look at boarding schools in other countries. There are certainly a bunch of them that take a lot of Hong Kongers. And Hong Kongers always say these are "good schools".
Why are we judging mainland people when we Hong Kongers are doing exactly the same thing?

作者: msmiu    時間: 16-10-21 19:28

Artie 發表於 16-10-21 14:45
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2011/12 are the most disastrous years where mainlanders flocked to hk to give birth so the babies claim hk citizenship.

This is Much disliked by Locals. Period.

Such was stopped near 2012 year end. And rightly there's a very valid and strong reason why that's put to an end. And u are asking why there's a judgement?!?! Gimme a break!

作者: cnh0397    時間: 16-10-21 22:21

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Your comment is full of prejudices.  Alot of Hong Kongers flocked to overseas before 1997, namely Canada, to give birth and claim their citizenship as well.  Weren't they doing the same thing as what the mainlanders are doing today?  Since when if comments like yours made in other countries they are called "racism", but if they are being made in HK they are acceptable? The number of Hong Kong locals switching to IS is dramatically increasing. How would you feel if a foreign family make a commend such as "oh wow, I thought we are interview at a local school".  We are living in a world with different races and cultures. Kids grow up viewing others  throughout the eyes of their parents. So please learn to accept and respect.  


作者: cnh0397    時間: 16-10-21 22:23

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作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 16-10-21 23:27

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cnh0397 發表於 16-10-21 22:21
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Your comment is full of prejudices.  Alot of Hong Kongers flocked to overseas before 1997 ...

Don't want to wade into an argument here but I think someone needs to point out some facts and put things in perspective.

Before and after 1997, when Hongkongers "flocked" to Canada and other countries overseas, they entered those countries as qualified immigrants, they had every right to be there and to give birth there.

Now compare that to people from a certain country visiting HK as tourists and then gate crashing into emergency wards in HK hospitals to give birth for the sole purpose of gaining HK residency and all the tangible and intangible benefits that may bring, that is a totally different ball game.




作者: Artie    時間: 16-10-21 23:43

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msmiu 發表於 16-10-21 19:28
2011/12 are the most disastrous years where mainlanders flocked to hk to give birth so the babies c ...

To be honest, the citizenship policy in Hong Kong and many other western countries is probably quite the same. Babies get the passport or citizenship by birth.

In any case, why not stick to the original topic "ISF".

作者: nov21    時間: 16-10-22 11:20

ISF is not an international school as I was told by the school principal so no need to compare with other tranditional IS.
作者: DreamKid    時間: 16-10-22 14:36

當年加拿大人都批評香港移民影響到佢地既生活,同而家香港人批評大陸人影響我地既生活一樣。而且樓主只不過講自己既感受啫

作者: type409    時間: 16-10-22 15:28     標題: 回覆:msmiu 的帖子

I agree with you. I was shocked by what I saw at the pick up venue from the beginning of this academic year. Many hongkongers and Caucasian have gone to other schools at middle grades is one of the reason. All these places are taken by b6 because of their advantage in Chinese langauge.

But ISF is no doubt one of the best "IS" which can turn kids, at least my one, into a fluent Chinese speaker.




作者: 無際星塵    時間: 16-10-22 17:06

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作者: tyson715    時間: 16-10-23 00:03

其實用教學語言為國語同英文,就明顯不過...( 個人認為)
作者: bforbtec    時間: 16-10-23 00:29

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好多香港家長其子女, 上到grade 6-8  就閃人

意識到此間學校, 存在極重大問題

如果覺得好, 我祝你子女讀到grade 12

子女升到grade 6, 你就發現, 問題極嚴重

最遲grade 8 應該會感受到

ISF 有大量外國人

中國人也是外國人

http://academy.isf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Virtuosos-2013-14.pdf

這只是表面

可以更深入分析

上堂, 到落堂發生的事






作者: s7824    時間: 16-10-23 01:16

FattyDaddy 發表於 16-10-21 23:27
Don't want to wade into an argument here but I think someone needs to point out some facts and put  ...

Totally agree with your point of view

Moreover the behaviour of mainlanders are really horrible, I do not want my children to be bullied by those kids as we can reckon how unreasonable those families are, and I do not want my children to learn the bad behaviour from those young mainlanders as well.

作者: canteen31    時間: 16-10-23 14:30

Well.... theres possibilities that there could be some parents who likes ISF cus of the high percentage of mainlanders, after all, their kids can perhaps network with 官二代or 富二代

In HK, there are school which attracts a high percentage of south asians and Muslims, I don't think its considered racist if I don't attempt to let my child studies at these school right?

I remember 平機會actually made a statement confirming that legally-it's not considered racism between HK ppl and mainlanders and vice versa. HK ppl and mainlanders are the same race. And one should also note that in China, 北京人may not like say for example 上海人.... even Chinese ppl living in china has their differences and values. The world we live in is not equal; and discrimination - whether u like it or not, do exist.

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-23 16:02

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So that is why it is important to pay school visit BEFORE deciding whether you like the school and BEFORE paying the application fees to avoid disappointment.
It may not be the cup of tea to everyone but definitely fulfil the needs of many others. I have also heard many people complaining that there are too few schools with non-local curriculum that have strong chinese.
So ISF definitely fills the gap.


作者: gobgo    時間: 16-10-24 02:20

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Bforbtec can you elaborate more on why students start to flock to other schools starting middle years? You mentioned 上堂到落堂. Is there huge problems in their curriculum or teaching which make people want to leave? Their IB average scores seemed quite high in the recent years and I saw some of their IBDP science projects seems to have even reached university levels. Are those just very rare cases in the grade who had lots of outside help? Does the school provide extra resources for those who are seen as high achievers to boost up the overall standard of the school?
作者: bforbtec    時間: 16-10-24 07:00

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Bforbtec can you elaborate more on why students start to flock to other school ...

science  ,尾二 第二頁 有詳情


http://academy.isf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ISF-School-Profile_2014-15.pdf

http://academy.isf.edu.hk/en/2015/09/school-profile-2015-16/

isf 最差就是science, 你幻覺 覺得ISF science 好

學校做個款出來

ISF train 寫中文, 是全港國際學校第一

但要train 中文, 去本地中學, 駛鬼來國際學校?

所以服務對象是中國父母, 不是想學英文的香港父母

2014-2015年間, IB  lang  B 英文人數大幅上升

代表大量中國學生滲入學校

數學成績差轉讀sl STUDIES, design

數學成績好轉讀hl maths

hl maths人數, 由1人2014年, 到7人2015年

hl phy 人數也大幅上升, 成績無跌, 這些是大陸人的跡象

大陸人數學好, 物理好, 因為計數為主

一到化學, 成績就急插, 要英文理解能力, 就差

2015年化學平均分更是4.5 分!!!


ISF 中文 訓練 好, grade 7, 已經成日要寫500 -1000字中文功課

train 中文勁過本地中學

英基 year 11 考試都係寫250-300字中文





香港父母, 多數不想咁大壓力走人的

功課及教學脫離現實

選學校,不能只看IB 平均分

各間國際學校鬥做數(包括英基), 做到外表好動聽, 美麗


所以吹湊到ISF 好正的父母, 千萬不要俾仔女轉校
即使有一天子女頂唔順, 子女提出主動想轉校要求

日日起度寫1000字中文功課


作者: elmostoney    時間: 16-10-24 10:31

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路過搭句嘴, 同ISF冇關.

Bforbtec, 好同意你所講, 唔好以ib分數選校, 小朋友合適與否最重要, 當然我咁講係因我冇大志, 冇諗住要d細路入物oxbridge, ivy league, 可能自覺自己細路冇能力, 當然父母都要有同樣決心先谷到, 我冇.
作者: Cara2006    時間: 16-10-24 12:26

bforbtec 發表於 16-10-24 07:00

選學校,不能只看IB 平均分

各間國際學校鬥做數(包括英基), 做到外表好動聽, 美麗



唔睇分,咁點㨂好呢?ESF 有好多間,近幾年 STC 的確一直成績好好,各間 ESF 亦有狀元。咁都唔係指標?
有 topic 排了今年 IB 成績。
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3296123&extra=page%3D2
可否評一評各間有提供 IB 的國際學校?你會點將各國際學校排名?

作者: adios    時間: 16-10-24 12:57

bforbtec 發表於 16-10-23 00:29
好多香港家長其子女, 上到grade 6-8  就閃人

意識到此間學校, 存在極重大問題

其實唔止ISF,我之前睇過一篇報導話,香港的國際學校要收70-80%外國學生,但香港其中3間IS有超過50%為local學生。Think80幾%,YCIS&Kingstonw50幾%。之於其他IS,內地黎嘅學生,算唔算外國,就由學校自行決定。

作者: Cara2006    時間: 16-10-24 13:02

adios 發表於 16-10-24 12:57
其實唔止ISF,我之前睇過一篇報導話,香港的國際學校要收70-80%外國學生,但香港其中3間IS有超過50%為local ...

Local or not, determined by passport.
A lot of local Hong Kong students have foreign passport.


作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-24 13:13

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作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-24 13:16

adios 發表於 16-10-24 12:57
之於其他IS,內地黎嘅學生,算唔算外國,就由學校自行決定。



The percentage should be 70%. And the 70% is not hard to meet.
At my kid's school (not the ones you mentioned), over 90% of the chinese (mostly cantonese speaking Hong Kong Chinese, not that many mandarin speaking students if that is also people's concern) students have foreign passport.
So the schools do not have to cheat. There are actually more people with foreign passport than you think.

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-24 13:17

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-24 13:13
選校一定要睇埋成績,不過就要小心地睇那些成績,不能只看校方單方面發表的統計成績,而係要深入分析了解。 ...

Do you want to share how your analyse the information.

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作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-24 13:32

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-24 13:19
你自己都很清楚啦


Everyone has their own way of analysing the information.
I am curious how other people think.
To be honest, I think a lot of people still consider the overall results (IB average) the only way to judge a school.


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作者: Cara2006    時間: 16-10-24 18:07

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-24 15:30
同意IB average是一個非常重要的指標,但純萃一個平均數不能深入反映實況,至少我會看看該校初中時的收生 ...


點知道邊間學生英文選 english b?

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作者: caa    時間: 16-10-24 18:57

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-24 18:19
通常學校不會公開這些資料,要知心儀學校情況就要想辦法打聽及調查 ...
I don't think it's difficult to find out. Just check the school website to see if the school offers English B at all. E.g. ESF, CIS, GSIS do not offer English B and all students need to do English A for group 1 whereas ISF and CKY have English B
作者: jumay319    時間: 16-10-24 19:34     標題: 回覆:bforbtec 的帖子

Hi bforrbtec, may I know how does isf implement John Hopkins program in the curriculum, does all students need to learn f on this program? Thanks a lot for your information in advance.




作者: Mighty    時間: 16-10-24 21:13

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-24 15:30
同意IB average是一個非常重要的指標,但純萃一個平均數不能深入反映實況,至少我會看看該校初中時的收生 ...
如以這個LOGIC、ESF成績真係不俗! 起馬有其他USER ALREADY指出、ENGLISH是A、不是B。 当然ESF我是有個CONCERN的、学校好似少提起考BTEC的学生。 ANYWAY, no doubt, it is a good group of schools.

作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 07:46

caa 發表於 16-10-24 18:57
I don't think it's difficult to find out. Just check the school website to see if the school offers  ...

我相信這跟學校定位有關,ISF 和CKY是private independent school, student mix 和中文程度跟國際學校不同。其實學生選科看興趣,能力和大學心儀學科,讀Eng B 學生会知道大學選科有局限。

作者: shadeslayer    時間: 16-10-25 10:09

nintendo 發表於 16-10-24 13:32
Everyone has their own way of analysing the information.
I am curious how other people think.
To b ...

I find it difficult to understand why parents choose their kids schools by scores only?

It is like choosing their wife/husband by how she/he looks only.

作者: elmostoney    時間: 16-10-25 10:25

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shadeslayer 發表於 16-10-25 10:09
I find it difficult to understand why parents choose their kids schools by scores only?

It is like ...

shadeslayer, can't agree with you more.  Scores (just as you said, looks of a potential partner) is just ONE of the factors, but then you have to remember that we are in HK where numbers are of primary concern.  In our case, we are more concerned about our kids' compatibility with the school.  Again, there could be tons of potential Oxbridge/Ivy League candidates out there and a school of top score can be the push to get the kids in the right university.



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作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 10:40

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 10:31
但報High 定 Standard level 比例是不會公開吧
Depends on school.  Some will fully disclose the details in the website.  You can find CIS' school profile showing all details.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9SGidhVB1vLc2pSQ0dXSUF4N3c/view

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作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 11:00

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 10:52
大部分沒有。

早一兩年相對多學校会在綱頁post school profile, 不知是否近年多了人關注平均分邊間高D,學校就講少D

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-25 13:15

shadeslayer 發表於 16-10-25 10:09
I find it difficult to understand why parents choose their kids schools by scores only?

It is like ...


I think ever since a few local elite schools started to introduce IB to local stream schools, people have started going crazy. Local mindset but using a western curriculum. Well, I am not surprised because local universities have always sorted students according to scores. They are just doing their best to get into local universities. But too bad that would not work with universities in other countries like the US.

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-25 13:24

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WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 10:31
但報High 定 Standard level 比例是不會公開吧

Everyone takes 3 HL and 3 SL. It is merely a matter of combination.
(Let's not discuss those rarer cases of students taking 4 HLs.)

I however still agree with you that we can look at these to determine the characteristics of students/schools:
(1) English A vs English B
(2) Math SL vs Math Studies
(3) Using subjects like IT, DT, Environmental Systems to replace the more challenging "classic subjects"

作者: hkparent    時間: 16-10-25 13:58     標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+nintendo+於+16-10-25+13:26+

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(4) Chinese A vs Chinese B (for local students)




作者: Choisumwong    時間: 16-10-25 14:06

Most important factor -- selective school vs non-selective school
作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-25 15:34

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作者: caa    時間: 16-10-25 17:15

Choosing Eng A high level doesn't automatically make one a "better" or "more able" student. Actually if you are not to study language or linguistics etc in university, choosing Eng A high level may actually disadvantage or at least won't help in applying to U.K. universities as normally one only does three high level and 4 high level at most
作者: caa    時間: 16-10-25 17:23

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 10:31
但報High 定 Standard level 比例是不會公開吧
High level 代表叻d?
作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-25 18:48

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作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 19:31

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 18:54
我指on top of另外三科High level

為何要讀4個HL?

作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-25 19:40

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作者: caa    時間: 16-10-25 19:45

其實語文好又唔代表其他方面都好,唔通科學家都一定要詩詞歌賦
作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 20:29

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-25 19:40
咁你又唔問吓點解有人會考要考九科、十科;IGCSE考十科、十一科

3個HL足以入頂尖學府,識人讀chi B HL再加3科HL, 入了心儀美國大學,不知是否因中國人讀chi B, 会被認為不夠挑戰性,所以再讀3科HL

作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 20:32

caa 發表於 16-10-25 17:15
Choosing Eng A high level doesn't automatically make one a "better" or "more able" student. Actually ...

請問什麼情況下会 'may disadvantage'?

作者: caa    時間: 16-10-25 20:51

poonseelai 發表於 16-10-25 20:32
請問什麼情況下会 'may disadvantage'?
Ignore this comment of mine
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作者: Choisumwong    時間: 16-10-25 21:48

Eng A HL + Maths HL + 其他三科HL 才是真正能力的表現
作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 22:04

Choisumwong 發表於 16-10-25 21:48
Eng A HL + Maths HL + 其他三科HL 才是真正能力的表現

咪攪笑,講講下有家長鬥玩平均分再鬥HL多

作者: Choisumwong    時間: 16-10-25 22:13

不過大部份U只計三科HL成績,讀多幾科HL而沒有七分其實沒有真正用處
作者: caa    時間: 16-10-25 23:05

顧此失彼,只有三科H,如學校只催谷語文例如過份強調bilingual diploma令profile好睇d,這樣好嗎?
作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-25 23:43     標題: 引用:顧此失彼,只有三科H,如學校只催谷語文例

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顧此失彼,只有三科H,如學校只催谷語文例如過份強調bilingual diploma令profile好睇d,這樣好嗎? ...
bilingual diploma 要求兩科語文是母語, 無要求要兩科HL, 兩科SL或HL和SL各一也可, 難道我理解錯?




作者: caa    時間: 16-10-26 00:01

poonseelai 發表於 16-10-25 23:43
bilingual diploma 要求兩科語文是母語, 無要求要兩科HL, 兩科SL或HL和SL各一也可, 難道我理解錯?



  ...
對,只想表達不是每人都語文好,但語文不好也不代表那位學生差,可能只是數理或甚至體藝好,只要選適合自己的,更勿論看Eng A 是否H,難以理解
作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-26 08:50

caa 發表於 16-10-26 00:01
對,只想表達不是每人都語文好,但語文不好也不代表那位學生差,可能只是數理或甚至體藝好,只要選適合自己 ...

無所謂啦,公開平台各自表達自己意見無問題,IB選科有好多因素要考慮,認識香港人家庭自少在ESF,一直有中文補習,考chinese B SL, 這是否反映孩子中文能力?唔一定。

作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-26 09:44

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作者: Choisumwong    時間: 16-10-26 11:36

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很快會有!IB 無寫明唔可以六科HL,那麼就可以。要突出孩子,我估遲早會有家長這樣想或這樣做!看看IB在香港進步神速,原來不多滿分的學生,現在也不少。我覺得香港或內地真有能力把IB推上更高峯!不是講笑!!
作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-26 12:46

Choisumwong 發表於 16-10-26 11:36
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很快會有!IB 無寫明唔可以六科HL,那麼就可以。要突出孩子,我估遲早會有家長這樣 ...

雖然有些誇張,但其實不願看到近年IB被受熱捧,好似鬥成績咁,同時又被人話走捷徑

作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-26 14:11

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作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-26 14:45

poonseelai 發表於 16-10-26 12:46
雖然有些誇張,但其實不願看到近年IB被受熱捧,好似鬥成績咁,同時又被人話走捷徑
...


你有冇發覺係幾時開始變質?



作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-26 14:47

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-26 14:11
但IBO好似有規定每科最少授課時間

No problem.
There are schools that started teaching IB content a lot earlier anyway.



作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-26 14:54

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作者: poonseelai    時間: 16-10-26 16:07

nintendo 發表於 16-10-26 14:45
你有冇發覺係幾時開始變質?

唔知是否变質,十多年前第一次聽有関IB, 當時孩子學校考慮会否行IB, 一直報導不多,當時可能只有CIS和李宝春是IB school, 都好低調。但近幾年真很多報導,一出成績call記者叫哂D個滿分狀元,唔係去oxbridge就留港讀神科,講到IB好似天下最勁,又好難怪被人話走捷徑。有聽過最後一年只操卷,之前提早教哂,這是否對呢?

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-26 16:33

poonseelai 發表於 16-10-26 16:07
唔知是否变質,十多年前第一次聽有関IB, 當時孩子學校考慮会否行IB, 一直報導不多,當時可能只有CIS和李宝 ...

細心留意,就知係比邊 d 學校搞到烏煙瘴氣。
先有本地學校大鑼大鼓,比學生 take Chinese B,然後最近我先知道當時有 IS 家長寫信去 IBO 投訴,得到十分詳細回覆,之後某校叫停 Chinese B (for local student)。
另外又有學校安排狀元學生見記者,有講話冇申請 HKU 都打電話叫佢讀 ( 十分冇品,呢 D 私下傾,何必公開?)。
又有學校找網媒寫鱔稿。
又有用 CHinese A + English B + English TOK (etc) 的精面取 bilingual diploma。
全部非主流 IS ,本地功利主義己入晒 IB 。
是近四五年的事。

作者: nintendo    時間: 16-10-26 16:34

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BTW, 大家批評 ISF,但 ISF 相對冇咁多小動作喎。


作者: WChan4691    時間: 16-10-26 16:52

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作者: caa    時間: 16-10-26 17:07

WChan4691 發表於 16-10-26 16:52
也有小動作。而相信最多小動作嘅可能係「X道」

"Chinese A + English B + English TOK (etc) 的精 ...
ISF does have students achieving bilingual diploma with this combination




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