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作者: QueenBallet 時間: 16-8-20 08:49 標題: IB VS AP

除咗升大學地區性之外, 為什麼IB那麼popular? 是否有那類小朋友合適讀IB, 另一些小朋友合適讀AP? 有什麼分別?

請指教.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-20 12:28

In term of popularity, AP is more popular than IB. Each year, about 2 million students take the AP examination and about 0.2 million students take the IB examinations.

In Hong Kong, there are a few schools (3 so far as I know) take the AP curriculum and there are more than 10 schools take the IP programme. It gives us a wrong impression that IB is more popular than AP.

AP curriculum is an American liberal art education curriculum, which give the students of the chance of exploring the best programme for them before they make the commitment of a future study.

AP is as good as IB and AL or HKDSE and vice versa. They are all college entrance qualifications. AP qualifications are recognised by all leading colleges in the world for admission purposes.

AP programme stress on ECA, independent researches and self induced explorations. I think all the best elements of the IB programmes or AL programme are present in an AP programme. For example, junior students are required to submit an independent research papers of about 4,000 words. Senior year students are required to undertake an independent research project.

So it is a matter of choice for the students. It is not a matter of which program is a better program, IB, AP or AL. Each program has its own strength and weakness.

作者: chunui 時間: 16-8-20 13:16

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Many thanks for your detailed explanation!

作者: cnh0397 時間: 16-8-20 17:04

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Hope this helps too.
1) http://blog.prepscholar.com/whats-better-for-you-ib-or-ap

2) http://international.collegeboard.org/programs/ap-recognition

作者: QueenBallet 時間: 16-8-20 17:32

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Cool, very useful information. Thank you so much.

作者: vitatio 時間: 16-8-20 19:36 標題: 回覆：Shootastar 的帖子

Interested to know which 3 schools take AP curriculum. Thanks!

作者: cnh0397 時間: 16-8-20 21:24

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Hong Kong International School, American International School and International Christian School.

作者: mingmingyinyin 時間: 16-8-20 23:10

As far as I know, CAIS offers AP as well.

作者: vitatio 時間: 16-8-21 04:43 標題: 引用：回覆+vitatio+的帖子 Hong+Kong+Internati

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Hong Kong International School, American International School and International ...

thanks!

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-22 12:38

I personally prefer AP to IB on the following reasons:

(1) If my kid is strong is science subject, he can take Physics, Chemistry Biology, Calculus, Astronomy in his program.

(2) If my kid is strong in humanity, he can take as much as humanity subjects he likes such as US history, European history, World history, Psychology, Political sciences, Economy in his program.

(3) If he is not strong in Maths, he can take Maths in a lower level. Usually, in a grade, 3 levels of maths are offered to students. He can take the honor level, ordinary level or a level lower than the ordinary level.

(4) Liberal Art Education allows you to explore the things you like before you commit yourself in the future study.

作者: augkBB 時間: 16-8-24 15:31

請問美英及加頂尖大學prefer收AP or IB學生 in general? thanks

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-25 12:15

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As I said both AP and IB are college entrance qualifications which can fulfil the entrance requirements of most, if not all, top top top colleges and universities in the world.

I think if you are top in your IB cohort or AP cohort, you have the equal chance of being admitted (if we set aside the other factors for a moment).

However, college admission is a very complicated matter. The admission committees of top top top colleges usually will consider a number of factors and take a holistic approach on all factors.

No matter whether you take the IB or AP programme, the first important factor is you have to be in the top of cohort, i.e. top 1% of your cohort.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-8-26 10:34

Shootastar 發表於 16-8-22 12:38
I personally prefer AP to IB on the following reasons:

(1) If my kid is strong is science subject, ...

Good comparison at subject level.

作者: augkBB 時間: 16-8-26 16:22

但香港提供AP 課程的學校AP成績如何?似乎IB diploma 的學校成績好一點。還是我的錯覺?

作者: lckfwylyk 時間: 16-8-26 23:33 標題: 引用：In+term+of+popularity,+AP+is+more+popula

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In term of popularity, AP is more popular than IB. Each year, about 2 million students take the AP e ...

but why would most of the international schools in hong kong prefer to adopt the IB curriculum rather than AP?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-27 01:57

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It is a good question and a difficult one to answer. The most important factor is the vision and mission of the school managers. Some thinks that IB is good, while some thinks that AL or AP is better. It is difficult to read their mind. Personally I prefer AP to IB because I like the liberal art style of the education system. However, it is just my choice because AP fits my kids. In fact this is my informed decision after I compared the several education systems.
It may surprise you if my kids did not receive their education in the United States. AP is a college entrance qualification recognised by most, if not all, top top top colleges in the world. My personal opinion is that if you are in the top 0.5% of your cohort, you have the same competitiveness in college admission process no matter you are from AP, IB, AL or DSE system.

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作者: manning2014 時間: 16-8-27 10:33

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I just focus on university application when look at this question. My personal opinion is AP is more popular and welcome in US colleges (like A-Levels in UK, and DSE in HK), while IB is more popular worldwide and would be better choice if someone want to keep their future option open (or want to target universities in different countries).

作者: Artie 時間: 16-8-27 14:22

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My children are in an IB school, so I would rather not compare the 2 curriculum here. I can however comment on IB as my kids have been with an IB school for many years.
I have spoken to many university admission officers and they have told me they are of the opinion that IB students have displayed high aptitude in university. Some universities track performance of students and they have found that IB students have very good potentials for high achievements later.
Having said that, IB students do not all chose to be doctors, lawyers, professionals, or scholars. IB is not just a school curriculum teaching children textbook knowledge. Students are encouraged to discover their strengths and find their own passion. I have seen students with exceptionally high IB grades that chose to go to art schools, music schools, or even culinary schools. And their high schools are not less proud of these young people.
I think instead on focusing on whether IB or AP is better, more popular, or more accepted, I would suggest parents to really look into the curriculum. IB and AP are very different. All the basic or detail information can be found on the official websites. Then pay school visit to see for yourself which type of school is more suitable for your child.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-28 01:36

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Well said!

作者: passers 時間: 16-8-29 13:19 標題: 回覆：Shootastar 的帖子

如果用人數定義popularity,就要數中國或印度高考，

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-8-30 12:36

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Number is one factor, but access is another factor.
No matter how many students take the examination, if access to the examination is restricted, it is not popular.

If access to the examination is equal, "popularity" could be reflected by the number of students who take the examination.

My 2 cents.

作者: lululau 時間: 16-10-5 19:10

Please can you provide your view on American International School in Kowloon Tong. Thanks

作者: samsam123321 時間: 16-10-7 00:52

最幣係本地大學唔多like AP 呢。你去美國讀就AP，英國讀就AL，香港就IB＋DSE都OK有大學收。

作者: Giyo 時間: 16-10-7 09:32 標題: 引用：最幣係本地大學唔多like+AP+呢。你去美國讀

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最幣係本地大學唔多like AP 呢。你去美國讀就AP，英國讀就AL，香港就IB＋DSE都OK有大學收。
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請教點解本地大學唔like AP?係少人攞住AP去申請入學，定係覺得AP唔on a par with DSE or IB？

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-10-7 13:42

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Giyo 發表於 16-10-7 09:32
請教點解本地大學唔like AP?係少人攞住AP去申請入學，定係覺得AP唔on a par with DSE or IB？

No. Not true.
Bear in mind that most students that take AP in Hong Kong are international schools students that have eyes for US universities. Many of them have very good grades and would rather go to any US universities but never even care to even apply to HKU or CUHK. I personally know someone that chose a state U (i.e. not even ivy league) and gave up HKU.
Same is also true for IB schools in Hong Kong. Many IB students in international schools do not even apply to local universities. However there are much more very "local" IB schools in Hong Kong. Go and have a look at the IB schools lists. DBS, SPCC, St Stephen are local elite schools. And there are also Creative, Victoria, PLK CKY, PLK NPL. These are all local schools.Their students would put universities in Hong Kong first choices.
So it is an illusion only that IB is more acceptable in Hong Kong than other non-DSE curriculum. Just that there are more "local" IB students applying to local universities.

作者: ritz_ng 時間: 16-10-7 18:07 標題: 引用：最幣係本地大學唔多like+AP+呢。你去美國讀

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最幣係本地大學唔多like AP 呢。你去美國讀就AP，英國讀就AL，香港就IB＋DSE都OK有大學收。
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請問係咪識人經歷過呢？因為我試過睇non jupas prospectus,好多學系都少題AP. Thanks

作者: matthewcinpat 時間: 16-10-7 19:47

nintendo 發表於 16-10-7 13:42
No. Not true.
Bear in mind that most students that take AP in Hong Kong are international schools s ...

Agreed

作者: samsam123321 時間: 16-10-8 00:44

ritz_ng 發表於 16-10-7 18:07
請問係咪識人經歷過呢？因為我試過睇non jupas prospectus,好多學系都少題AP. Thanks

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有咩出奇。好似香港唔多承認大陸高考。唔係大陸高考唔得，係香港唔認姐。你又試下拿日本，韓國高考來香港申請，睇下收唔收得好？

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-10-8 10:50

My kid had admission offers from 7 US colleges (including the top one) and 2 offers from UK colleges (medicine) on the strenght of her AP results.

She chose to study in HKU.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-10-8 10:51

Another kid of mine had admission offer from HKU (law) on the strength of his AP result but he chose to study law in UK. Finally he studied PCLL in one of the three PCLL providers in Hong Kong.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-10-8 10:56

AP is a college entrance qualification recognised by most, if not all, top top top colleges in the world.

It is absolutely and definitely not true that "最幣係本地大學唔多like AP 呢". On the other hand, the local colleges like very much AP applicants because they want diversity in the campus. There were about 10 applicants in my kid's classs to apply for admission to HKU several years ago. All of them were admitted by HKU and 9 settled at HKU.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 16-10-8 10:58

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State U such as UC Berkeley, UCLA, UVA etc. are very famous US colleges indeed.

作者: sharons 時間: 16-10-17 15:46 標題: 回覆：IB VS AP

可以簡單理解如下嗎?

1. 選讀IB可同時報考 IBDP & AP
2. 選讀AP並不可以同時報考 IBDP
3. IBDP 重讀/考機會極低
4. IB 按年齡讀, 無跳班及留班機制
5. AP 結果早於 IBDP 公布
6. IBDP 結果遲過 AP 有時趕不上大學入學申請

有錯請指正

作者: sharons 時間: 16-10-17 15:48 標題: 回覆：IB VS AP

可以簡單理解如下嗎?

1. 選讀IB可同時報考 IBDP & AP

2. 選讀AP並不可以同時報考 IBDP

3. IBDP 重讀/考機會極低

4. IB 按年齡讀, 無跳班及留班機制

5. AP 結果早於 IBDP 公布

6. IBDP 結果遲過 AP 有時趕不上大學入學申請

有錯請指正

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 16-10-17 21:04

sharons 發表於 16-10-17 15:48
可以簡單理解如下嗎?

1. 選讀IB可同時報考 IBDP & AP

為什麼IBDP 重讀/考機會極低?

作者: sharons 時間: 16-10-18 21:39 標題: 回覆：little-pig-pig 的帖子

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20121028/18050890

何謂IB？

全名是International Baccalureate，1968年創立於日內瓦國際學校，當時是專為一批跟隨父母因為外交、經貿等工作關係而居無定所的學童設計。先有預科課程（DP，Diploma Programme），到94及97年才陸續開辦中學（MYP，Middle Years Programme）及小學課程（PYP，Primary Years Programme）。

香港有多少間IB學校？

根據國際文憑組織http://www.ibo.org/資料，全港共有45間開辦不同程度IB課程的學校，其中25間提供PYP課程、8間提供MYP、25間提供DP，當中加拿大國際學校、英基轄下啟新和智新書院、滬江維多利亞學校提供由小學至預科的接龍課程。

是否一定要文理兼讀？

IB強調全人發展，除規定要參與一定時數的課外活動和社會服務外，考生需修讀六科，其中兩科語文及一科數學是必修科，餘下可選兩文一理，或兩理一文，又或一文一理另加一科藝術，譬如音樂、電影、視覺藝術等。

IBDP一試定生死？

不一定，但重考非常困難。首先IB是一個相當年齡歧視的考試，一般不鼓勵超過19歲的學生報考；其次是重考必須轉校，不會有太多學校接受重讀生。每年分別於五月及十一月舉辦兩次考試，及格分數是24分，以每科最低一分最高七分計，另Extended Essay及Theory of Knowledge合共可得三分，最高是45分。

升學途徑如何？

因國際認受性高，大部份學生會往外國升學，也可經Non-JUPAS申請本地大學，收生沒固定名額，視乎該年度學生水平。以李寶椿聯合世界書院為例，今年121名考生（51名為本地生）共獲本港大學合共53個入學邀請，包括香港大學（23）、中文大學（16）、香港科技大學（12）、城市大學（2）。據了解，港大每年取錄近千名Non-JUPAS學生，當中不少屬IB生。由於越來越多尖子報考IB，港生成績相對突出，本地大學在選擇眾多下，將入讀分數定得越來越高，換言之，以IB成績入讀本港大學，將較入讀外國名校更難。

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作者: Artie 時間: 16-10-19 00:29

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sharons 發表於 16-10-17 15:48
可以簡單理解如下嗎?

1. 選讀IB可同時報考 IBDP & AP

6. IBDP 結果遲過 AP 有時趕不上大學入學申請 >> No need to wait until IB results are out. IB students apply to universities with "predicted grades". Some overseas universities also request for up to a total of 4 years of high school transcript. My son's school has already provided students (2017 cohort) with their first set of PG this month. Students can now apply anytime to secure conditional offers from universities in Hong Kong, UK, or Canada etc; or firm offers from universities in the US. The earliest offers can be released as early as around December to January (depending on admission policy of different universities). Many universities release offers on a rolling basis all the way until August or even September. The better your PG, the higher chance you get offer early.

作者: samsam123321 時間: 16-10-19 07:43

ib 無得重考係好事，迫學生努力讀書。

作者: sharons 時間: 16-10-26 18:09 標題: 回覆：Artie 的帖子

Thank you for your informations.

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