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作者: duffy_bear 時間: 16-7-14 17:38 標題: CU vs HKU medicine

If my son got 4+2 39marks and 4+3 45marks, which uni would be a better choice for medicine?

作者: dativebond 時間: 16-7-14 17:45 標題: 回覆：CU vs HKU medicine

非業內人士。
其實兩者出路應該相若，既然個選擇分別唔係咁大。你個仔咁叻仔，自己想讀邊間咪邊間囉。

作者: dativebond 時間: 16-7-14 17:46 標題: 回覆：CU vs HKU medicine

但佢既分夠唔夠入中大個fast track program？好似早一年畢業。

作者: dativebond 時間: 16-7-14 18:00 標題: 回覆：CU vs HKU medicine

我以前D同學通常入港大，但其實咁講對你仔仔情況又意義不大。其實港大中大醫科都好勁，好難話邊個好點。

作者: workingmom 時間: 16-7-14 19:39

HKU 國際排名遠超 CU

作者: dativebond 時間: 16-7-14 19:45 標題: 回覆：CU vs HKU medicine

呢個係有意義既資訊比你個仔參考，不過最好問番業內人士可能仲好，你個仔咁叻，實有校友做緊醫生，問佢地意見啦～

作者: duffy_bear 時間: 16-7-14 21:58 標題: 回覆：dativebond 的帖子

謝謝各位！

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-7-15 08:33 標題: 回覆：CU vs HKU medicine

如果報學士學位，大學排名意義不大。如果一心上研究院，可能要考慮一下！

不過，選校有時都要看未來的走勢發展，我會寧買當頭起，莫買當頭跌！

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PBL vs System Based, 我見不少EK家長及醫生會覺得PBL好些。

四年前我請教不同醫學院教授，問得深入些，他們都認為在最終醫務委員會都承認兩者，換言之，兩者都到達一定公認的水平。我再查考，原來先進國家的醫學院，兩者都會應用，而不是名校一定用PBL！我當時查了一些名牌大學，兩種教學法都好接近，所以我不再理會。

我們要擔心那些國家的受訓醫生，兩者都不是，但未來擁來香港彈性可以執業才是隱患！

我又做多一樣，在網上翻查兩種教學法的優缺點，不少學術文獻的結果都是兩者可比性十分接近。例如PBL都要教System ，當然人體就是由不同系統組成。只是在Junior year 不理系統教咗未，鼓勵學生去研究其他未教系統的問題。

如果用 System Base，到一定程度系統教了，又會用PBL的教法，到最後兩者都包括在內，如果單以個 title 來分，我覺得意義不大！

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歡迎其他專家家長補充！

作者: 73662710 時間: 16-7-15 09:40

本帖最後由 73662710 於 16-7-15 10:18 編輯

HKU: PBL right from the beginning. Students take more initiative to explore.
CU: 1st year, foundation year, 2-3 year: system based; 3-6 year also PBL. Students with strong foundation can skip 1st year.
In the end of day, graduates from both schools will be doctors, and no one will label u as a doctor from hku or vice versa. Competencywise, no one is superior to the other and graduates from both schools are equally good.
So which one to choose really depends on what type of learning/teaching style you prefer, and what kind of campus culture you like as hku and cu have different culture right from the establishment of universities. But all this will not affect your career as a doctor, the only thing you need to do is to work hard and learn the skills to serve the community later.
Medicine is quite different from Law, Law has such inborn trait as BLUE blood background, a graduate from Oxbridge can ask for more, but this does not happen in medicine. You earn the respect from your colleagues by good personality, good clinical skills and not from which university you are from. No matter you are from HKU/CU/Oxbridge, you get the same pay in hospitals, and whether you can be a reputable/星球人/月球人 depends on your hardwork and post graduate training.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-7-15 11:15

73662710 發表於 16-7-15 09:40
HKU: PBL right from the beginning. Students take more initiative to explore.
CU: 1st year, foundatio ...

Thanks for your further info.

作者: workingmom 時間: 16-7-15 20:41

院校排名多少能反映學校質素，難道經常名列前茅的牛津劍橋會和排名甚後的Aberdeen 大學差不多嗎?
而且大學提供的應該是全人教育，不只是職業訓練。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-7-15 23:19

workingmom 發表於 16-7-15 20:41
院校排名多少能反映學校質素，難道經常名列前茅的牛津劍橋會和排名甚後的Aberdeen 大學差不多嗎?
而且大學 ...

Ranking is more related to research and very little to teaching. How many % of ranking criteria related to undergraduates teaching? Therefore, I mentioned in the previous post, it makes more sense for research based postgraduates.

Medicine is also vocational training with professional assessment and registration.

Whole person development is pretty common mission / jargon for most local universities, but not many really provide up to par curriculum and achievement.

作者: 73662710 時間: 16-7-16 00:56

workingmom 發表於 16-7-15 20:41
院校排名多少能反映學校質素，難道經常名列前茅的牛津劍橋會和排名甚後的Aberdeen 大學差不多嗎?
而且大學 ...

醫科根本就是職業訓練，而且會讀到個人好depersonalised(只是只讀書其間），全人教育，想都唔好想。而中大year 1的foundation year 是僅有的一年可以享受u life,接受全人教育的機會，或者在讀醫期間用一年做exchange,出去見識吓，如果唔係，醫學院的確是職業訓練學校。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-7-16 10:29 標題: 引用：Quote:workingmom+發表於+16-7-15+20:41+院

原帖由 73662710 於 16-07-16 發表
醫科根本就是職業訓練，而且會讀到個人好depersonalised(只是只讀書其間），全人教育，想都唔好想。而中大y ...

你的講法跟兩間醫學院教授的說法一式一樣！

你在那一間教！？

作者: 73662710 時間: 16-7-16 12:11

ANChan59 發表於 16-7-16 10:29
你的講法跟兩間醫學院教授的說法一式一樣！

我唔係教书的，只是眾人體會。

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-7-16 13:44

workingmom 發表於 16-7-15 20:41
院校排名多少能反映學校質素，難道經常名列前茅的牛津劍橋會和排名甚後的Aberdeen 大學差不多嗎?
而且大學 ...

The more professional the program, the more it cannot be 全人教育.

You like 全人教育, you may wish to explore the university education in the US.
Students have much more freedom to choose the classes (credit system).
Then, if they decide to be professional, they can choose to specialise in the area they like.
Technically speaking, you can be a history or music major before you apply to medical school.

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