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作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-11 15:52 標題: First Choice, Insurance, UCAS Extra, Clearing
好 confused, 尤其 UCAS Extra 是什麽，有無家長可幫手簡單解釋？謝謝您們！
作者: peter_pan 時間: 16-2-11 16:46
UCAS allows you to apply for 5 courses. Even if you receive offers from all 5 courses, you can only accept 2 by a certain deadline - one as your first choice and the other your insurance choice. Once you have confirmed these 2 final courses, they will accept you as long as your exam results can match the offer. That is why you should keep a lower offer as insurance choice just in case your exam results don't match the offer from your first choice.
If you don't get any offers from all 5 courses, or if you reject all the offers you receive, you can apply to an extra course between February and July - UCAS extra. If you again do not get an offer or if you reject the offer given to you, you can apply for yet another course. For UCAS extra, you can only apply to one course at a time. You can repeat this up till July, after which you have to wait till your exam result comes out and apply through 'clearing' - this is a process trying to match students with no offers and those who fail to match both their first and insurance choices with vacant courses.
For those who have achieved better grades than expected and wants to apply to better courses than the two offers on hand, they can also apply through a process called 'adjustment'.
作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-12 09:04
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Good morning, Peter. Many thanks for your clear explanation which made me understand UCAS more.
Out of the 5 selected courses, my son will put his first priority as his Firm Choice and fourth priority as his Insurance Choice. To be honest, the Firm Choice is very stretched to him and the Insurance Choice may be too safe.
In case he is not able to achieve the required grades for the Firm Choice but finally offered the Insurance Choice, is he NOT eligible to go through the "Adjustment" and "Clearing"? In that case, the "Insurance Offer" will be the only and final choice within UCAS?
作者: peter_pan 時間: 16-2-12 11:30
Tommy, it is indeed a very difficult game to play! If you fail to match the first choice offer but manage to get much better result than your insurance offer, you can apply for a better course through adjustment before the end of August. There is no need to give up your insurance offer in order to apply for adjustment. Your insurance offer is safe until you decide to give it up yourself.
The big gamble of course is whether to keep a very low offer as insurance choice and to rely on adjustment if exam results are better, or to keep a not so low offer as insurance and rely on clearance if the exam results fail to match up. The problem is that there will be less vacant courses, especially the better ones, at the adjustment & clearing stage, so it really depends on what kind of a gambling man you are!
Good luck!
作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-12 14:14
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Well, life is difficult and forever full of gambling. Anyway......
My son plans to forfeit the offers given by his second and third priorities. If his final results exceed the conditions for the insurance offer (4th priority), can he do adjustment and go back to the 2nd and 3rd priorities?
Sorry for my greedy mind and difficult question.
作者: peter_pan 時間: 16-2-12 15:21
You will have to check at that time whether they still have vacancy. If they do, you can certainly apply through adjustment but there is no guarantee they will accept you even if your results exceed their original offer.
By the way, you need to be well organised before the results come out so that you can jump into action as soon as possible. There is an element of 'first come, first serve' at that stage, especially for the popular courses!
作者: sumsummummy 時間: 16-2-12 21:50
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How can the uni know our DSE result? Should we send the result to uni?
作者: etoile 時間: 16-2-12 22:04
peter_pan 發表於 16-2-12 15:21 
You will have to check at that time whether they still have vacancy. If they do, you can certainly a ...
解釋得好清楚！我都要做定功課！
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-13 11:17 標題: 引用：回覆+peter_pan+的帖子
How+can+the+uni+k
原帖由 sumsummummy 於 16-02-12 發表
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How can the uni know our DSE result? Should we send the result to uni?
我的女兒都係今年報大學。由於她最想入本地大學,所以報UCAS時,她只係提供最minimum的資料給agent在1月中的deadline前代報,甚至沒有給之前考的IGCSE成績。可能因為這樣,到現在都未收齊offer。
報了的大學都有給學生ID和password,用來上大學的網站或apps。其中兩間,見到有功能upload証書和成績。由於經agent代報,我都未有深究實際應如何提供DSE成績給大學。
現在,收到三間大學的offer,而condition都低過predicted grade不少。因此,我覺得UCAS的確可以在JUPAS以外提供有效的升大學安全網。
作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-13 19:50 標題: 回覆：peter_pan 的帖子
真係唔該曬你呀 Peter, 你解釋得非常清楚， 我而家完全明白曬 UCAS 的玩法，真係要好懂得計算和走位，我會 send 呢條 link 比阿仔睇睇，等佢自己好好計劃。謝謝！
作者: KopyKat 時間: 16-2-13 20:35 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+sumsummummy+於+16-02-12+發
原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-02-13 發表
據我所知,UCAS提供不到的成績,係要學生自己交給大學的。
我的女兒都係今年報大學。由於她最想入本地大學, ...
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-13 21:04 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ChiChiPaPa+於+16-02-13+發表
原帖由 KopyKat 於 16-02-13 發表
請教conditional offer 低過predicted grade 不少！？我們參考prospectus,嘅要求分數，再睇自己達標与否才 ...
www.hkeaa.edu.hk/tc/recognition/hkdse_recognition/ircountry_hkdse.html?1
我女兒收到的offer的condition是所寫range的low-end,對比香港三大同樣學科收生的成績四分三位數低好多。
作者: Rexxxxxx1227 時間: 16-2-13 21:18 標題: 回覆：KopyKat 的帖子
大學prospectus出嘅係參考，實際出offer可升可跌。我當年報大學個standard offer係AAB我收BCD都得
作者: Rexxxxxx1227 時間: 16-2-13 21:20 標題: 回覆：ChiChiPaPa 的帖子
你預計A*=5*, A=5, B=4 如此類推。係唔會出5** offer嘅，所以睇英國offer好容易可以轉換返dse嘅offer
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-13 22:37 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ChiChiPaPa+於+16-02-13+發表
原帖由 KopyKat 於 16-02-13 發表
請教conditional offer 低過predicted grade 不少！？我們參考prospectus,嘅要求分數，再睇自己達標与否才 ...
作者: siumiu2010 時間: 16-2-13 22:48
三科AAA都係選修科, 得兩科選修科便很難找大學????
作者: KopyKat 時間: 16-2-13 22:49 標題: 回覆：ChiChiPaPa 的帖子
不知用IB 成绩，是否strict 很多！謝谢。
作者: Rexxxxxx1227 時間: 16-2-13 22:58 標題: 回覆：ChiChiPaPa 的帖子
ABB就係544咯，不過如果收到咁好嘅offer就恭喜曬啦
作者: Rexxxxxx1227 時間: 16-2-13 22:59 標題: 回覆：siumiu2010 的帖子
兩科基本上就byebye啦，冇咩可能入到好嘅大學
作者: Rexxxxxx1227 時間: 16-2-13 23:00 標題: 引用：不知用IB+成绩，是否strict+很多！謝谢。 +
原帖由 KopyKat 於 16-02-13 發表
不知用IB 成绩，是否strict 很多！謝谢。
作者: newbkmember 時間: 16-2-14 07:13
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ChiChiPaPa, thanks for your info. 之前有follow開你d post 同blog, 你囡囡是否仍target medicine, 英國d condition offer 是 medicine 嗎? 應怎樣prepare HK 同 UCAS 既application 呢?
作者: Miss_Parker 時間: 16-2-14 09:13
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Not really, I only study two electives but still receive offers from good unis ( 2nd tier ones).
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-14 09:33 標題: 引用：回覆+ChiChiPaPa+的帖子
ChiChiPaPa,+than
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ChiChiPaPa, thanks for your info. 之前有follow開你d post 同blog, 你囡囡是否 ...
作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-14 17:28 標題: 回覆：ChiChiPaPa 的帖子
ChiChiPaPa, 我近年少上 BK, 唔知您的近况。Anyway, 請保重，願您們一家平安快樂。
作者: 3b 時間: 16-2-14 19:55 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+newbkmember+於+16-02-14+發
原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-02-14 發表
我已經有一段時間無寫blog。14年患上了癌症,我想這也影響了女兒的選擇。我想她有因此而思考自己是否真的想 ...
作者: newbkmember 時間: 16-2-15 07:35
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ChiChiPaPa, sorry, 我囡仍是中學, 不太清楚報大學程序, 之前睇過你的電視節目和BK post後, 覺得你的教導方法很好, 直至最近才見你出post. 希望你早日康復, 囡囡考上心儀大學
作者: manning2014 時間: 16-2-17 12:10
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NO! Please read this link carefully, it explains that "Adjustment - If you've met and exceeded conditions for your firm choice, you might be thinking about looking for an alternative course."
https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergraduate/apply-and-track/results/adjustment-%E2%80%93-if-you%E2%80%99ve-done-better-expected
That means if your son result fails his firm choice offer and only met and exceed his insurance offer, he cannot go through Adjustment. He can only go to insurance university. If he finally didn't want to go to insurance one, he need to inform that insurance university and withdraw his place. Having successfully declined the insurance, he can go to apply for another university through Clearing procedure.
Since it will take some time (maybe a few day) for the insurance university released your son, before your son can go to Clearing, the vacancy of other university will be a lot less. Places in Clearing/Adjustment during the time after A-Levers result disappear very quick. So my advise is your son only put that university as insurance if he really want to attend. Don't just put a insurance offer for the sake of insurance (if he never want to go).
作者: peter_pan 時間: 16-2-17 13:12
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Tommy, Sorry for having misguided you! Manning 2014 is right. Reading through UCAS website (without initially watching the video), I was under the assumption that once you failed with your 1st choice, your insurance choice automatically becomes your firm offer and therefore makes you eligible for adjustment. However, having watched the video, even though your insurance choice does automatically becomes your firm offer in terms of acceptance by them, it does not make you eligible for adjustment. I do apologise for my oversight.And thank you Manning 2014 for correcting my mistake.
作者: sumsummummy 時間: 16-2-18 17:45
ChiChiPaPa 發表於 16-2-14 09:33
我已經有一段時間無寫blog。14年患上了癌症,我想這也影響了女兒的選擇。我想她有因此而思考自己是否真的想 ...
你現在身體康服了吧!祝你身體健康。兒子也是報Accounting, 不過要求也不是很低，不知你女兒報那幾間大學？我兒子報Surrey 收554/Cardiff 收4433/UEA 收44 in electives. Accounting and management雙學位， 是否也是讀3年？可否俾條link我參考吓，謝謝。
作者: Tommy 時間: 16-2-18 18:39
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Many thanks for Manning and Peter's further explanation. That's what we really get stuck. I think I understand now. It's difficult and strategic what to put as the Insurance Choice. That might be the reason why some students do not opt for an "Insurance Choice".
Do you think if there is any data base keeping the prior records of remaining places for different courses offered by different Uni at different time slot during Clearing?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-2-18 20:40 標題: 回覆：ChiChiPaPa 的帖子
保重身體，其他次要！
作者: ANChan59 時間: 16-2-18 20:41 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+newbkmember+於+16-02-14+發
原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-02-14 發表
我已經有一段時間無寫blog。14年患上了癌症,我想這也影響了女兒的選擇。我想她有因此而思考自己是否真的想 ...
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-18 21:07 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ChiChiPaPa+於+16-02-14+發表
原帖由 ANChan59 於 16-02-18 發表
香港有沒有建構安全網？
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-19 00:25 標題: 引用：Quote:ChiChiPaPa+發表於+16-2-14+09:33+我
本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-2-19 00:31 編輯
原帖由 sumsummummy 於 16-02-18 發表
ChiChiPaPa,
你現在身體康服了吧!祝你身體健康。兒子也是報Accounting, 不過要求也不是很低，不知你女兒報 ...
http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/course/accounting-and-management-bsc-econ
以上係Cardiff的會計及管理雙主修學位的連結。
其實我和太太有建議女兒考慮其他組合,例如會計加法律或會計加電腦,不過女兒只同意會計加管理。係雙主修,不是雙學位,所以只係讀3年。不過,選雙主修都有缺點:1.獲ACCA豁免的科目通常較單一會計主修少,2.好多都係得30個位,如果多人報,就好易被reject,3.有些大學雙主修出路無單一會計主修咁好,好似UEA,女兒就只係報了單一主修會計,所以個offer同妳的兒子一樣係44。
其他報了的大學有Nottingham-555,Cardiff-5544,Lancaster-554。另外,報了Leeds,未知結果。
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-19 06:32 標題: 引用：Quote:ChiChiPaPa+發表於+16-2-14+09:33+我
原帖由 sumsummummy 於 16-02-18 發表
ChiChiPaPa,
你現在身體康服了吧!祝你身體健康。兒子也是報Accounting, 不過要求也不是很低，不知你女兒報 ...
作者: sumsummummy 時間: 16-2-19 15:16
ChiChiPaPa 發表於 16-2-19 06:32
報名之前,我把CUG會計排名頭50的大學做了一個表。記得有大學,如Chester, 只要求DSE level 3,比UEA更低。
...
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-19 20:20 標題: 引用：Quote:ChiChiPaPa+發表於+16-2-19+06:32+報
原帖由 sumsummummy 於 16-02-19 發表
其實只有UEA低D,其他都晤易，有咁嘅成續香港大學都讀到。
其實只可以選一個confirm的選擇,一個insurance選擇,就算報多幾間低收生都無用,因只能揀一間做insurance。
另外就算最終低過個condition都不一定是問題。我知有好多case低過個condition都照收。
作者: kls12 時間: 16-2-25 10:20 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+sumsummummy+於+16-02-12+發
原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-02-13 發表
據我所知,UCAS提供不到的成績,係要學生自己交給大學的。
我的女兒都係今年報大學。由於她最想入本地大學, ...
曾經看過你建議在F5 考GCE AL, 看來沒有實行嗎？在這方面有没有可分享的地方？
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-25 20:31 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ChiChiPaPa+於+16-02-13+發表
原帖由 kls12 於 16-02-25 發表
Hi ChiChiPaPa,
曾經看過你建議在F5 考GCE AL, 看來沒有實行嗎？在這方面有没有可分享的地方？
...
作者: kls12 時間: 16-2-26 12:58 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+kls12+於+16-02-25+發表Hi+Ch
原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-02-25 發表
女兒考3X,空餘時間不多,而她的目標係本地大學,所以最後無考IAL。不過,我有繼續留意IAL,因我重有個細仔。其 ...
若他成功，即是可早一年入大學，相反便繼績DSE,出年jupas再報。
這是行得通？香港入大學沒有年齡限制？
甘我想問英國有没有？因F5考IAL即是得17崴。UCAS 有没有甚麽條件才報？還有没有Predicted Grade,即是沒有了面試機會？祇可在公布成績後才知有甚麽大學收？若第二年用DSE 報UCAS有没有甚麽影響？
作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 16-2-26 20:35 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ChiChiPaPa+於+16-02-25+發表
本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 16-2-27 07:21 編輯
原帖由 kls12 於 16-02-26 發表
我有朋友個仔F5,會考五月的IAL，但他都是以本地大學目標，已報non-jupas，中大已有面試。
若他成功，即是可 ...
http://www.canaelite.com/content/one-year-ial-program
行得通,除了一些大學一定要完成正規的中學課程。
年齡限制?你的意思係咪指本地監護人的安排。
UCAS系統應該乜人都用得。如果你指要交的文件,那最少要有personal statement,校內成績和reference letter。
你一定係想入牛劍或神科,講面試。大多學科都沒面試海外生。不過,現在有些大學有informal interview。見完之後,她們可以降低offer的condition。
如果有考AS level,學校應該不難給predicted grade。如果真的不肯,你可以找一些教育機構幫手,好似上面條link,你自己睇。
如果你有考AS level,有些大學會給unconditional offer,那你就不用等放榜。
對準備DSE的影響,就應該係可能少了時間準備DSE,影響了成績,最後兩頭唔到岸。
作者: CarolKay 時間: 16-3-30 13:17
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The chance is very low because most Vet courses require interview.
作者: slamai 時間: 16-3-30 14:46
CarolKay 發表於 16-3-30 13:17
If the student has not applied through UCAS at the beginning of 2016, can he participate in the UCAS ...
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