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作者: kathyp 時間: 15-10-15 02:28 標題: 請教讀IB 的出路
係咪只可行non-jupas入本地U? 位係咪會好少?
出外升學、IB 認受性如何?美加英國澳洲ok 嗎?

作者: brother4 時間: 15-10-15 09:27 標題: 回覆:請教讀IB 的出路
|B是行非聯招入大學,非聯招申請有lB生 ,AL,副學士,高級文憑。。。認受性及海外oK嗎可去海外留學中心ㄧ問 ,是免費的!

作者: manning2014 時間: 15-10-15 11:18
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好 ok。
作者: cdefg2333 時間: 15-10-15 11:28
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作者: brother4 時間: 15-10-15 12:43
Medical School Foundation and Widening Access to Medicine Programs Bristol
Entry Requirements: The new course (2016 entrance onwards) at Bristol is a Gateway course with very specific Widening Participation criteria, aimed at applicants from low performing West Country schools ONLY. Successful completion allows entrance onto the normal 5 year MB ChB program at Bristol
IB : 29 with 14 at Higher Level including 5 in Chemistry and 5 in Biology, Physics or Mathematics. Applicants with 34 or higher overall and/or 17 at Higher Level should instead consider the five-year MB ChB Medicine degree
Cardiff
Entry Requirements: All applicants must have an acceptable English Language qualification. .
IB: A total of 36 points (excluding Theory of Knowledge and the Extended Essay). No more than one science subject offered at Higher Level. A minimum of 18 points must be achieved in the Higher Level subjects
作者: nintendo 時間: 15-10-15 13:26 標題: 回覆:請教讀IB 的出路
Are these minimum requirements?

作者: littlecat 時間: 15-10-15 15:29
我囝囝今年IB畢業, 現己升讀大學, 現時IB在香港或海外大學認受性很高, 只要成績好, 都很容易升上大學. 但當要選讀IB時, 一定要考慮清楚自己小朋友是否適合, 因為IB跟DSE不同, IB很注重分析, 思考, 又有大量功課和report要做, 還著重時間管理, 不可以遲交功課 現時香港的大學要求IB學生分數比海外大學還要高, 比較好的學科起碼要38分或以上, 如想讀醫科最少也要42分或以上, 其實真是有點難度.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-10-15 15:51 標題: 引用:我囝囝今年IB畢業,+現己升讀大學,+現時IB在
原帖由 littlecat 於 15-10-15 發表
我囝囝今年IB畢業, 現己升讀大學, 現時IB在香港或海外大學認受性很高, 只要成績好, 都很容易升上大學. 但當 ...
今年港大医科43分也只是 marginal case, 42分 no chance

作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-15 16:02 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+littlecat+於+15-10-15+發表
原帖由 poonseelai 於 15-10-15 發表
今年港大医科43分也只是 marginal case, 42分 no chance
43中大都是邊緣人!

作者: manning2014 時間: 15-10-15 16:30
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Real case. No offer after interview. Then got result with IB 43 points, interview again. But have to wait until Jupas result finalized, got in CU Medic finally.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-15 21:52 標題: 引用:回覆+ANChan59+的帖子 Real+case.+No+offe
原帖由 manning2014 於 15-10-15 發表
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Real case. No offer after interview. Then got result with IB 43 points, interv ...
Agree

作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-15 23:14
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 16-5-23 00:02 編輯
老del.....
作者: littlecat 時間: 15-10-15 23:31 標題: 回覆:請教讀IB 的出路
今年囝囝同學考獲42分,中大收他入讀醫科, 另一位朋友兒子也是一樣考獲42分,又被中大醫科取錄,港大可能沒機會,但中大醫科未必沒有可能。

作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-16 07:38
42分中主要看HL分,如果是7,5,6,就肯定無機會了。其他SL,7,7,7都補唔番。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-10-16 08:35 標題: 引用:老老實實,正考慮轉回讀dse
原帖由 samsam123321 於 15-10-15 發表
老老實實,正考慮轉回讀dse
aiming at medicine?

作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-16 08:50
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 15-12-23 18:32 編輯
Del...
作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-16 08:52
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 15-12-23 18:32 編輯
因為Eng
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-16 09:01 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+samsam123321+於+15-10-15+發
原帖由 poonseelai 於 15-10-16 發表
aiming at medicine?
讀醫DSE機會高些,top 0.5%就可以。

作者: hkpapa852 時間: 15-10-16 10:24
kathyp 發表於 15-10-15 02:28 
係咪只可行non-jupas入本地U? 位係咪會好少?
出外升學、IB 認受性如何?美加英國澳洲ok 嗎?
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IBDP要入本地大學只可以用Non-JUPAS方式, 資助學位比例上會少D.
如果只係針對入本地大學, DSE機會高D.
如果係海外升學, 當然IBDP好D
作者: Artie 時間: 15-10-16 10:24
本帖最後由 Artie 於 16-3-4 13:15 編輯
annie40 發表於 15-10-16 07:38 
42分中主要看HL分,如果是7,5,6,就肯定無機會了。其他SL,7,7,7都補唔番。
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作者: littlecat 時間: 15-10-16 10:25
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當然要睇各科目成績才有機會入讀醫科
作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-16 11:04
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人家要看Chem, Biology的HL有無7分,勉強接受其中一科失手是6分,
講就天下無敵,考到先至系真既。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-16 11:42
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已做測試。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-16 11:53
本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 15-12-23 19:03 編輯
annie40 發表於 15-10-16 11:04 
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人家要看Chem, Biology的HL有無7分,勉強接受其中一科失手是6分,
del..
作者: workingmom 時間: 15-10-24 19:25
本帖最後由 workingmom 於 15-10-24 19:41 編輯
如打算報考本地大學,經nonJUPAS 肯定較DSE着數得多
作者: workingmom 時間: 15-10-24 19:38
往年全港IB考生不足2000 但已有27 人滿分 ,
43分或以上的, 估計超過百分之十
IB 絕對比DSE容易考得高分
加上 用 nonJUPAS 報大學又沒有學系數目的限制
讀醫科又可不讀第一年,直入第二年
作者: hksnoopy 時間: 15-10-25 20:25
本帖最後由 hksnoopy 於 15-10-25 20:45 編輯
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看似容易!!!
以前更易啦, 幾年前39分已入中大醫科, 現在去英國帝國醫科36, 其實是供求問題, 現今多人報香港醫科, 令到43才穩入.
扣兩分workingmom認為易, TOK EE 都玩死好多人啦, 正常是取1分(超過50%), 已經扣了2分啦.
香港2000人考, 是選擇去考, 不是被迫去考, LOCAL SCHOOL 那幾間是學校評審過才可考. 要在2000勁人堆中游上水面才呼吸到的. 我只可說近年更難, 始終20%是功課分, 每間學校都有一定比較, 因老師不可能位位學生比高分.導致不少死在功課分, 單考試細分有7, 結果都是6, 否則仲多狀元.
本港三大仍然熱烈地收IB生, 雖然被批評下, 改為低調一些, 33分都入到三大, 何解? 原來都不差囉, 隨手會做研究報告, 是可以發表論文的格式, "發展空間"大, 是大學的學術層次.
好了, DSE難嗎? 平均五星可以入醫科, 有幾百個位, 不是太難吧, 如英基TOP 10% 個批去讀及考DSE(公平D,不計中文呀), 一樣有五星以上啦
"nonJUPAS 報大學又沒有學系數目的限制", 是有的, 只可填三科, 有些神科不可同時填在三志願中, 即是一早要作出取捨, DSE才是多而沒有限制, 還可放榜後改.
"讀醫科又可不讀第一年,直入第二年" 不是這樣的, 反而普通科, 三年多數讀完, 因已豁免好多學分, 而科目每SEM都開, 學生可以順利三年修畢, 但神科是供求問題, 沒有需要特別安排, 跟足DSE生開大班, IB生都願意入學. 至於醫科, 那個是叫"環球醫", 先修第二年, 作調配課程, 日後有一年去外國進修.
利申: 有研究DSE, IB試題
作者: cow 時間: 15-10-25 21:04
hksnoopy 發表於 15-10-25 20:25 
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[size=34.4808px]nonJUPAS 報大學又沒有學系數目的限制", 是有的, 只可填三科, 有些神科不可同時填在三志願中, 即是一早要作出取捨, DSE才是多而沒有限制, 還可放榜後改.
DSE才是多而沒有限制,不是吧?non-jupas,三大共九個選擇。
jupas,如果神科唔放A123,入到嗎?
作者: hksnoopy 時間: 15-10-26 09:57
本帖最後由 hksnoopy 於 15-10-26 10:13 編輯
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神科指明只可填第一志願,所以相當於三大三神,冇咁多益左佢地。由於二三志願在第一確實落敗才展開程序,咁通常較後期,佢地為左保障有学位,会揀高好多分入的科,如理学工程。而且,佢地為左在考試前有offer, 心安d, 咁佢地会將其中一间首選理学作胆。Dse 出左成績,有能力入到其中神科,而填左a123是其他神得黎入唔到,咁当事人家庭及学校都要負責啦,究竟要入学還是令志願表特別呢。
意思系,同樣成績超卓,dse填表睇餸吃飯,仲可以填埋其他都難入的科,点都会在系统分配入到。
作者: cow 時間: 15-10-26 11:34
本帖最後由 cow 於 15-10-26 11:48 編輯
不是所有神科指明只可填第一志願[size=37.4569px]就算係,八大都有八個first choices.
作者: hksnoopy 時間: 15-10-26 18:03
本帖最後由 hksnoopy 於 15-10-26 18:11 編輯
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我说的是实際運作,再研究落去又要定義你神是否我神,在我心中,三大外冇神。ib生拿住四十几分申請埋其他u, 又要作文又要比錢,唔好玩啦,冇d咁既事囉。佢地实立刻收到offer, 唔通搶住交每間一萬共五萬留位留住閣下心中的神科呀。三大收左这些一萬订金,而放棄学位,每年特殊收入喺过百萬。学校是要直接寄文件去大学,所以中学会限制学生報校数目,以六間為準,例如三大加外國三,擺明唔去外國,味三大算了。強調,其實大部份申請六間外國啦。Anchan59,, 要向你求助,本着分享经驗,但好似玩緊辯論比賽咁,中伏了,就此停筆算吧,ib生45分都喺好普通材料,咁ok啦。
作者: cow 時間: 15-10-26 18:36
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大家都係分享經驗,但好多時分享啲人(包括本人)都是站係某個角度來睇,未夠全面。
IB生報non-jupas唔係個個都over40分。講choice,non-jupas係多過jupas。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-10-26 18:41
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作者: ivankan 時間: 15-10-26 18:41
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ib生45分都喺好普通材料!咪玩啦!!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-26 19:00
hksnoopy 發表於 15-10-26 18:03 
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我说的是实際運作,再研究落去又要定義你神是否我神,在我心中,三大外冇神。ib生拿住四 ...
唉,我好早都講在香港讀直資及lB是犯咗[原罪],cow 算講道理㗎! 
cow 可能由於職業關係,會較咬文嚼字,推敲邏輯性,你跟他討論會學到嘢,如果你有道理,他會接受!你頭一兩篇有漏洞俾佢捉住,認衰,再討論過。
其實你都大致講出兩者的分別,高分及低分,J or NJ 有不同考量!例如 lB 低分梗係出國著數,有其他神科選擇,唔通 36,38分在香港讀水泡科!
我三年前都做咗善長仁翁,我們都是只報3大神科,其他應該出外讀。
作者: cow 時間: 15-10-26 19:48
ANChan59 發表於 15-10-26 19:00 
唔通 36,38分在香港讀水泡科
唔知city LLB,ust BBA算唔算水泡科?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-26 20:00
cow 發表於 15-10-26 19:48 
唔知city LLB,ust BBA算唔算水泡科?
我知講真話俾人鬧,不過我答 "算"!
UST BBA 是我們香港的安全網 (36 分),我都俾咗一個學期學費,到中大有神科 offer,我哋捐咗學費俾 UST,不過冇得扣稅
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City "神科" , not our cup of tea ....
作者: MC1128 時間: 15-10-26 21:06
神科、水泡科, 呢種字眼, 作為大家網絡上方便溝通, 無傷大雅
但好多時, 被人附有貶意, 其實唔係好尊重。 同樣道理, 在小學個邊, 叫某些學校為寶校, 我個人不會咁做
收分較低, 就是水泡科? 代表學科渣?
的確認識有人IB 3X分入文學院, 又係水泡?
要45分入中文系才不是水泡科?
作者: Cara2006 時間: 15-10-26 21:52
MC1128 發表於 15-10-26 21:06 
神科、水泡科, 呢種字眼, 作為大家網絡上方便溝通, 無傷大雅
Well said.Too bad IB schools in Hong Kong are filled with narrow minded people.
I think most genuine international students do not necessarily target only law and medicine. I personally know many IB students that have 40+ targeted pure science, engineering, economics, or language overseas.
May students with score of 43+ never even considered law or medicine.
It is really disgusting how local parents label some programs to be 水泡科.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-26 22:27
My girl's senior is one of 45 scores in HK , and she has chosen to study Engineering happily.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-10-26 23:12 標題: 回覆:請教讀IB 的出路
似乎是DSE狀元才是多讀神科, 今年差不多全部入港大医科

作者: hksnoopy 時間: 15-10-26 23:21
本帖最後由 hksnoopy 於 15-10-27 10:07 編輯
此帖中段是去到比較dse定ib入兩大医科易d嘛。咁味講翻这類高分人。神科,水泡科,各大学secrets都喺咁定義,何必入罪國際学生家長。dse联招搏a1,2, 水泡3就叫策略,不需按兴趣,事实ib高分入普通科,另一帖早詳細討論过,多的是。如说及ib, 無論甚麼題材,最後点都会被評撃,好似搶左香港人乜野資源咁,仲有喺‘’冇料‘’用咁入尖子科。以英基為例,约千人考,留港味一百人,已公佈為明顕增加,大家不如留意下內地生在各大情況好过啦,美其名叫交流,实情每間大学一年收几百人,傳媒做下佢地好过,可以挽回好多学位及宿位比翻香港学生。
作者: liyinfai 時間: 15-10-28 11:26
What is the admission ticket (IB score) if I want my kid study Medicine aboard?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-28 13:26 標題: 引用:What+is+the+admission+ticket+(IB+score)+
原帖由 liyinfai 於 15-10-28 發表
What is the admission ticket (IB score) if I want my kid study Medicine aboard?
All depends on which country you want him to go.
I know a boy back to Canada, 41, got full scholarship.
I read some UK info can be 38, HL 766.

作者: Artie 時間: 15-10-28 18:54
本帖最後由 Artie 於 15-10-28 18:58 編輯
ANChan59 發表於 15-10-28 13:26 
All depends on which country you want him to go.
I know a boy back to Canada, 41, got full scholar ...
There are no undergrad MD program in Canada.
The so called "bachelor of medical science" or "bachelor of health science" in some canadian universities have no direct relation to MD program.Students have to apply to MD program at around third to forth year of their undergrad program. And the process is extremely competitive and they normally do not accept applications from non-canadians.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-28 19:28
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Great to clarify it. A lot of people misunderstand it is a easy path or shortcut to study medicine in Canada.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-10-28 19:33 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+Artie+於+15-10-28+18:58+編輯
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本帖最後由 Artie 於 15-10-28 18:58 編輯
Thanks for your clarification.
I asked him before and he confirmed that the university offered that to him.
He is Canadian.

作者: Artie 時間: 15-10-28 20:45
ANChan59 發表於 15-10-28 19:33 
Thanks for your clarification.
I asked him before and he confirmed that the university offered tha ...
I am sure he was offered scholarship. I do not think anyone would lie about that.
All I wanted to clarify was that, it can in no way be an MD program.
There are a few universities that have "bachelor of medical science" program, but it is simply not the same type of medical program at HKU or CUHK.
Most students applying to Canadian "medical science" program probably do have MD program as target program. So these programs do attract top students. Students successfully got into "medical science" programs in Canada need to work extremely hard, keep a near perfect GPA, get good results in MCAT, kept a very good profile/portfolio, and deal with interviews.
I am sure the boy you are talking about is a bright student, and he probably really have the potential to get into MD program. But if I were him, I would not tell other people "I am going to Canada to study medicine" because that really is not the case.
作者: Artie 時間: 15-10-29 16:37
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annie40 發表於 15-10-28 19:28 
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Great to clarify it. A lot of people misunderstand it is a easy path or shortcut ...
Yes. Really want to clarify to avoid misunderstanding.
The canadian system is quite similar to the US system.
In fact, most professional programs like law, medicine (pharmacy, dentistry as well), architecture, etc are post grad programs.
There are 2 undergrad programs in ontario with a label "bachelor of medical science" or "bachelor of health science" that are very "famous" for their high admission threshold (96+% of ontario high school average). And even with these "elite programs", only around 40-50% of their graduates can eventually secure a place with one of the MD programs in Canada. Other similar undergrad programs (i.e. that have a label "medical science" or "health science") have very few students that can get into MD programs (we are talking about may be 5 graduates per program).
So it would be extremely misleading if a student got an offer from a "medical science" undergrad program, and go around telling people they are going to canada to study medicine.
It should also be noted that, not any single MD program in Canada has said that a "bachelor of medical science" undergrad program would have any advantage when applying for MD program. A lot of students merely went for a chemistry or biochemistry major, got very high GPA, MCAT (plus other non academics, e.g. sports, volunteer and work experience, interview etc) that got into an MD program.
I am sure applications to MD programs in the US can possibly be even more competitive.
Very different from the hong kong medical education system. May be that is why many people misinterpret the "status" of a "bachelor of medical science" degree.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-29 17:29
My friend's son declined the offer from HKU medical school years ago, but went to study the undergrate program Bio/Chem in Canada. This Sept he starts the study of MD programe.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-10-29 17:44
His goal is to be a researcher . He said the study enviornment and opportunity are better in Canada.
作者: Artie 時間: 15-10-29 18:23
annie40 發表於 15-10-29 17:44 
His goal is to be a researcher . He said the study enviornment and opportunity are better in Canada.
Good for him.There are indeed lots of opportunities for researchers in Canada.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 15-11-8 10:57
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說得好。
作者: Doray 時間: 15-11-12 13:46
如果純粹選HKU Medicine, 應該讀DSE正路啲。 CU medi 就收得比HKU較多non-full mark IB students and overseas high school students through non jupas applied.
作者: dlam141231 時間: 15-11-12 14:50
Artie 發表於 15-10-29 16:37 
Yes. Really want to clarify to avoid misunderstanding.
The canadian system is quite similar to the ...
我在多倫多居住了11年, 閣下說的確是實況, 讀醫先讀health science, 四年undergraduate畢業後, 要成績優秀的一批才可以正式讀醫, 其餘的, 譬如一個朋友女兒去了做牙醫助理.
此外, 你說有兩間undergraduate "elite" programs, 我想問Queen's University是其一嗎? 另一朋友女兒, 各項成績異常優秀, 拿了TD Bank的全額奬學金入讀Queen's 的health science, 所以我猜想Queen's是其一.
作者: 20020116 時間: 15-11-20 00:43
ANChan59 發表於 15-10-28 13:26 
All depends on which country you want him to go.
I know a boy back to Canada, 41, got full scholar ...
我估好多香港考生有能力取38分,問題係讀完又難以在港執業,呢樣至麻煩
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