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作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-9-24 13:49 標題: .

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作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-9-24 18:43 標題: 回覆：momo_cheung 的帖子

Thanks for starting the thread as I got similar queries too. It seems that few parents of Kingston kids are on EK though. Looking forward to hearing from Kingston parents!

作者: winnie194 時間: 15-9-25 13:29 標題: 回覆：momo_cheung 的帖子

Are you asking about its kindergarten ?

If so, I can tell you all the kids love this school. Most of them speak fluent Mandarin and English.

作者: Avis_chu 時間: 15-9-25 14:36

我女女現在在kingston 讀playgroup, 好開心, 老師都最少在kingston 教了四年, 返學時見到大哥哥同姐姐都會係講國語同英文, 好有規舉會叫人同對人笑和say hi

作者: iloveskp 時間: 15-9-25 15:56 標題: 回覆：Avis_chu 的帖子

請問你囡囡現在幾歲，讀play group? 是否要入學時比發展費？

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-9-25 18:25 標題: 回覆：Avis_chu 的帖子

要不要學寫中文字？

作者: 964000 時間: 15-9-25 18:37 標題: 回覆：Kingston Intl'

It's a good school, the only bad thing is the debenture which is compulsory even at playgroup.

作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-9-25 21:32

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作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-9-25 23:59

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作者: 964000 時間: 15-9-26 07:56 標題: 引用：Quote:964000+發表於+15-9-25+18:37+It's+a

原帖由 momo_cheung 於 15-09-25 發表
Thanks for your reply. May i know why/ what sector do you think it is good? every school has their p ...

It's balanced in every aspect ( kinder section ), including languages, caring staffs, facilities. And it is not a bad primary back up. However most people will look for other schools at y1 and even k1 so it is really up to you to decide if the 100k debenture at pg and another 100 k at y1 really worth it or not. I got and offer at the time but I turn it down at the end.

作者: winnie194 時間: 15-9-28 10:33 標題: 回覆：momo_cheung 的帖子

Our family can only speak English and Cantonese. But surprisingly, our daughter loves Mandarin and can speak fluently with native accent. She teaches daddy Mandarin words every night. And she sometimes get mad as daddy can not copy her pronunciation perfectly.
Kingston provides a very good bilingual environment and all the staff are professional. The kids are smart , happy, well-mannered, and willing to learn.

One of the thing I most appreciate is that it respect the children's opinions. So all the kids are willing to speak out what they know or what they think. They sometimes give the wrong or silly answers. But the teachers will never say they are wrong.

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-9-28 18:08 標題: 回覆：winnie194 的帖子

Thanks Winnie! Does your daughter speak Cantonese too? Do you intend to let her stay with Kingston as she progresses?

作者: Avis_chu 時間: 15-9-29 10:47

my daughter study playgroup, I paid the debenture once I register, which is 100k. This debenture ensure you can study kindergarten after. I think this is worth it as Kingston is really good choice for kindergarten and primary school.
They did not allow anybody to speak cantonese in campus, even the parents or grandma. the teacher will friendly remind the parents to speak english or mandarin.
the lesson is 2.5 hours. the group size is 16 students. The first ten minutes is free play in indoor playground, after that a music teacher will sing songs will kids and he will play guitar, this is about 15 minutes, and then around 10 minutes free play and take attendant.
the student will divide into two groups, the elder group and the younger group, they will go English class or Mandarin Class separately. Around 15 minutes sing songs, and then is activities, the teacher will divide students into two groups and one is free play and other is doing activities, this is ensure the teacher can know each students ability. and then switch.
After finish English or mandarin class, they will supply tea, which is biscuit or cakes. then student switch to learn other language. In the last 15 minutes they will go to outdoor playground to have fun.

Kingston is ensure one native english teacher (Foreigner, my daughters teacher come form Scotland ) and one native mandarin speaker. Teacher can remember all the students name in one month, which is appreciated.

Personally, I think 100K debenture is not expensive compare with other international school or even local school, like St. Steven girls or Hallow. MY first target is ESF before, I think everyone knows that kindergarten of ESF is extremely hard to get in, if you want to ensure the interview in primary school, which need to pay 500K. so that I think this is worth.
I hope I can answer all your questions.

Kingston Need to write Chinese. 是要寫中文的, even this is easy one.

by the way, I heard from other parents, Kingston is good at language but not in math.

作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-9-29 13:30

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作者: 964000 時間: 15-9-29 14:47 標題: 引用：Quote:964000+發表於+15-9-26+07:56+It's+b

原帖由 momo_cheung 於 15-09-29 發表
So you left after playground or kindergarten? where did your kid go for primary?

No I didn't take the offer for playgroup. I know one kid from kingston kinder who go to HKIS and one to RC afterwards.

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-9-30 00:03

momo_cheung 發表於 15-9-24 13:49
Any comment on Kingston, especially i want to know...
1. the style of learning? learning through pla ...

1. It is play based learning. From K1 (3 year old class) onwards, the school adopts IB PYP.

2. YC focuses on mother tongue (cantonese) and its standard of english is quite behind the other 2. Victoria, depending on campus, but i heard the one in causeway bay is much better (and far harder to get in). English in Kingston should be enough for you to get through the interview of most other IS. But since very few parents are native english speakers, i would imagine the kids' english would not be comparable to those from say woodlands.

3. Some parents speak to their kids in english outside school, some in cantonese and some in mandarin (about 20% of parents are native pth speakers i guess). So it depends, when the kids get around, they tend to speak among themselves more in english than in cantonese. Because most Hk parents focus more on english, the kids are usually far better in english than mandarin though the schooling time is 50/50.

4. No idea at this young age yet. Certainly play based learning instead of mouth feeding.

5. Parents of Kingston are mostly local (more local than say anfield, esf , not even to say woodlands), though some have foreign passports, and quite a lot (i guess at least 1/3) will ultimately go back to LS system at different stages. The $100k would then be a bit wasted. Also, since location of the secondary school is not good, many parents will leave at various stages to through train schools, and would not move on to its own primary school.

作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-10-1 15:13 標題: 引用：Quote:momo_cheung+發表於+15-9-24+13:49+A

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作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-10-2 21:04

momo_cheung 發表於 15-10-1 15:13
21Ckid, thanks for your kindly reply, appreciated you have answered all my questions. i am curious ...

I mean 1/3 of those entering playgroup will go back to LS. A lot of families are undecided as to IS or LS when going into playgroup when kids are only 1 year old (or several months old when given the offer) and are concerned with the kids having happy childhood etc. As I said, most families are very local, and many will return to the conventional thinking that the LS route is more appropriate for their families. Some leave after PG, some after PN, some after K1 etc. Most to reputable local kindergartens or through train local kinders. Most families are quite well off, so the capital levy of HK$100k (or $72k at my time) isn't much.

In fact the primary school teaches in IB and wouldn't be pushy at all. It is a very small and cosy school in which the principal and staff knows the names of practically all students, and for parents bringing kids to school themselves, they know who are the parents of the kids too. I think it is good. But then, you see kids leaving every year to other through train IS every year since K1 up to Grade 5 and sometimes you may feel a bit upset if your child is seen as "not able to" get outside offer yet (even though you may have all the time determine to stay in this school).

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-10-3 21:18 標題: 回覆：21Ckid 的帖子

Thanks for your sharing 21Ckid. Has your child stayed in Kingston for primary? What is your view towards Kingston Primary and its secondary school? Have you considered Yew Chung as a lot of parents tend to compare the two, which I am. Thanks in advance.

作者: aspirant99 時間: 15-10-4 23:56 標題: 回覆：21Ckid 的帖子

Share your feeling. It's indeed a very nice school. We will miss it.

作者: VVhuilee 時間: 15-10-5 14:30

My son has started at Kingston since PG (K1) and now at N (K2) since Aug.
1. They are really play-based.  I asked the question about homework during information session last year, the English head teacher said there is very minimal homework like drawing lines, simple art work at K4 (= to K2 for local school).  The thing I like about Kingston is that even they are play-based, I get a newsletter from school every 2 months about what they would be focusing in the class, says last two months they were learning colours and shapes.  My son comes back using his fingers/hands shaping a triangle everyday asking me “mummy, what’s this?” I am not sure about critical thinking, maybe too young to tell.
2. Kingston is 50/50, Victoria has Bilingual and English stream.  YCIS use Cantonese as medium of instruction in KG.
3. As soon as you enter the school, we can only talk in English or PTH.  This is the house rule of the school, exception would be talking to the admin staff in their office.
4. Kingston is known to be strong in Bilingual and a caring happy school.  I think Victoria is more academic, but I am not very sure.  Victoria is a through-train school (although not guarantee), so this may influence your decision.  We also applied YCIS, but we rejected as we were already with Kington and I don’t prefer using Cantonese at school.
5. I am super happy about the school.  Teachers are great, good structural play-based learning and strong Bilingual programme.  The downside which most parents concerns is the Secondary school connection, they are connected to ICHK but so far away.  The school has been applying for new land to build ICHK II, but unfortunately unsuccessful.  Therefore many parents would be looking for other through-train school (including myself) and only consider Kingston Primary as back up.
This is 2014 P6 allocation:  ICHK 24%, HKA 16%, Creative 12%, CIS 8%, Harrow 8%, Kellett 8%, Discovery Collage 4%, CAIS 4%, Lutheran School 4%, others 4%.  Please note that many students left throughout the year and there is no record knowing where they went.  Look at it from the another angle, Kingston Primary is able to lead the students to a good secondary school.  It’s just NOT a through-train school.

I hope you find the information helpful.

作者: aspirant99 時間: 15-10-5 19:52 標題: 回覆：VVhuilee 的帖子

My understanding is that ICHK is basically Kingston's secondary school. All graduates can go to ICHK without assessment.

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-10-5 22:13

Bearbearlight 發表於 15-10-3 21:18
Thanks for your sharing 21Ckid. Has your child stayed in Kingston for primary? What is your view tow ...

I will also look for a good through train school with Kingston primary as back up, same as most parents. I think the primary school is good, but as i said, you won't feel good to see your kid's classmates leaving every year and by year 3 or 4, perhaps all those from PG would have gone!

I don't know much about the secondary school, except its location is remote. Beside ICHK, Kingston also has several "special relations" school including creative secondary and hong kong academy and a jewish school (forgot the name), which as of now will in practice take anyone from Kingston if the student is interested. Of course, you never know if this relationship will change many years later.

The school had sent out a letter about a year ago indicating great hope in getting the new site in taipo, perhaps it was the front runner in the shortlist, but then probably circumstances have changed. The school is still very active in getting the secondary link up, otherwise students in kinder will only see primary as back up, and students in primary will leave mid way.

I will not consider YC as YC focuses on developing mother tongue first and most students without a good english environment outside school will lag behind other kinder IS in level of english quite significantly. That said, the quality of its education is very good as i heard.

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-10-5 22:27 標題: 引用：My+son+has+started+at+Kingston+since+PG+

原帖由 VVhuilee 於 15-10-05 發表
My son has started at Kingston since PG (K1) and now at N (K2) since Aug.
1. They are really play- ...

Thank you for your detailed sharing. I'll visit both Kingston and YC and hopefully will have a better idea about the two. Thanks again!

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-10-5 22:29 標題: 引用：Quote:Bearbearlight+發表於+15-10-3+21:18

原帖由 21Ckid 於 15-10-05 發表
I will also look for a good through train school with Kingston primary as back up, same as most par ...

Thanks again for your info. do you have any idea as to where do Kingston kids go if they chose to leave before entering primary? Also which primary schools will take them? Thanks a lot.

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-10-5 22:54

Bearbearlight 發表於 15-10-5 22:29
Thanks again for your info. do you have any idea as to where do Kingston kids go if they chose to le ...

Quite diverse, esf, rc, harrow, cdnis, cis, isf, etc.

作者: Bearbearlight 時間: 15-10-6 07:58 標題: 引用：Quote:Bearbearlight+發表於+15-10-5+22:29

原帖由 21Ckid 於 15-10-05 發表
Quite diverse, esf, rc, harrow, cdnis, cis, isf, etc.

These are great schools. So people seem to view the school as a stepping stone only. Rather discouraging for prospective parents. Thanks for sharing!

作者: jk121299 時間: 15-10-6 12:35 標題: 回覆：Kingston Intl'

When did u apply and be able to get in K?

作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-10-6 18:56

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作者: 964000 時間: 15-10-7 13:47 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+momo_cheung+於+15-10-7+10:47

原帖由 momo_cheung 於 15-10-06 發表
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Indeed, but in reality, when you see more and more people leaving with time, it's quite demoralising. But if you know what you want and hold on to your principles, it will be fine.

作者: fanfanbb 時間: 15-10-12 12:19

21Ckid 發表於 15-10-5 22:54
Quite diverse, esf, rc, harrow, cdnis, cis, isf, etc.

Thank you for the useful information and detailed analysis. I am one of the users too and satisfied with the school so far. May I ask other than Kingston, what other school will be good at the play group level in Kowloon side? I may need to get a play group for my younger one for few months and personally find the 100K will not be worth for it if only staying there for few months.
Thanks again.

作者: momo_cheung 時間: 15-10-12 12:38

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作者: fanfanbb 時間: 15-10-12 12:42

momo_cheung 發表於 15-10-12 12:38
Hello, did your elder kid left after playgroup? May i know where to go? Can pm too. Thanks.

He is still with Kingston's kindergarden now

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-10-12 23:49

fanfanbb 發表於 15-10-12 12:19
Thank you for the useful information and detailed analysis. I am one of the users too and satisfied ...

Why would you want to get into PG for just a few months? While the PG of Kingston is good, I believe most others are similar. The primary reason to get into PG is to ensure through train to primary (and if you don't mind the distance, secondary too).

作者: fanfanbb 時間: 15-10-13 17:12

21Ckid 發表於 15-10-12 23:49
Why would you want to get into PG for just a few months? While the PG of Kingston is good, I believe ...

Because we may relocate to other country few months after Kingston's PG starts. Spend additional 100k for just few months seems not very worth. Agree that PG of Kingston is very good. Some recomend Tutor Time and note her relatively high teacher turnover rate from the Forum.

作者: fanfanbb 時間: 15-10-13 17:19

21Ckid 發表於 15-10-12 23:49
Why would you want to get into PG for just a few months? While the PG of Kingston is good, I believe ...

My friend's kid was initially with ICHK but later withdrew and went to Shatin College. He told it's a small but very good school, distance is not much a problem as they're living nearby. The school (ICHK) however deosn't have too much choices for the IB subjects so then quit.

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 15-10-15 18:48

fanfanbb 發表於 15-10-13 17:12
Because we may relocate to other country few months after Kingston's PG starts. Spend additional 10 ...

I think people are willing to pay the $100k are mostly for the primary school backup. If you plan to leave before that, there is certainly no point to study in Kingston. In fact, if not for this, some parents may not even enrol PG, rather play at home. I heard quality of TT teaches varies a lot. So depends on luck.

作者: Sandrawcr 時間: 15-10-18 09:05 標題: 回覆：momo_cheung 的帖子

My son now in Kingston play group as well and got quite a lot visible improvement, such as tide up toys, wash hands and self-eating. The teachers now I feel are very nice and gentle, quite patient as well. At least they offer the chance to every kids in all event and activities

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