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作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-1 09:24     標題: 有無人知今年英基IGCSE成績如何?

IGCSE result was announced on 20/8. I could not find results in ESF website until now. Anybody knows ?
作者: annie40    時間: 15-9-1 09:55

IGCSE 是小兒科,指標作用不大。
作者: Activehealth    時間: 15-9-1 10:36

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South Island School
Press Release: GCSE/IGCSE Results

More outstanding results from South Island School today as students celebrated their GCSE/IGCSE results. A number of subject areas hit ‘best ever’ levels and many students achieved extraordinary results in line with the record breaking achievements of the past 5 years.

The average grade per subject of 6.5 equaled the second best in the School’s history and the total of A* and A grades reached 55% of all exams taken. 28% of all exams taken were passed at A*.

Five students scored 9 or more A* grades  - Vicky Regan (10.5), Ka-Ka Yu (9.5), Felix Lui (9.5), Eugenie Kwan (9.5) and Leah Davis (9) and a total of 24 students scored 7 A* or better. 14 students achieved 8 or more A*s.

作者: Activehealth    時間: 15-9-1 12:06

Shatin College

GCSE Results: May 2014 ‐ Sha Tin College We are extremely proud to announce another excellent set of (I)GCSE results, similar to last years ’s which were some of the best achieved at Sha Tin College. Of the grades achieved, just over 34% were the top A* grade (32% last year) and nearly 68% were A* or A grades (62% last year).

What is particularly remarkable about the students’ achievements is that Sha Tin College is an inclusive school which educates students of all abilities and that where appropriate all students are encouraged to enter for examinations in up to 10 subjects. % of students in each grade We are delighted by the number of students who entered for the 1st language Chinese IGCSE examination; this has increased from 38 in 2011 to 53 in 2014. These students have also achieved IGCSEs in English 1st Language and Literature and will now be able to access the prestigious International Baccalaureate Bilingual Diploma in Year 12. This is achieved when students study two languages at native or near native level. Sha Tin College has taken steps to improve provision in this area and we will continue to develop this further in the future.

Sixty nine students achieved 8 or more A*and A grades compared to sixty five last year demonstrating that Sha Tin College students are able to achieve a great deal of success comparable with some of the most able candidates in the World. Of these, 18 students achieved at least 8 A* grades compared to 9 last year. Clement Cheung, Vivian Chung, Lisa Cooley, Shimali De Silva and Jessica Wai achieved 9 A* grades which is a truly remarkable achievement. Whilst we are proud of the students mentioned above we are particularly proud of several students who were expected to find their (I) GCSE examinations particularly challenging, yet through sheer hard work
managed to achieve 5 A* ‐ C grades or more. In fact just under 99% of our students achieved 5 or more grades at A* ‐ C, comparable with last year, which is our minimum requirement to progress onto the IB Diploma Programme in Year 12. Sha Tin College is very proud of our student’s achievements and also very proud of our faculty. We are fortunate to employ an extremely talented and professional group of teachers who have worked tirelessly to support these students in their magnificent achievements.

Neil Hodgson Vice Principal August 2014
作者: Activehealth    時間: 15-9-1 12:30

The above are South Island School 2015 and Shatin College 2014 results, can't find the 2015 results of Shatin College.
作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-1 12:31

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多謝高見,請問什麼才是指標性大?
作者: lui    時間: 15-9-1 12:34     標題: 引用:IGCSE+是小兒科,指標作用不大。

原帖由 annie40 於 15-09-01 發表
IGCSE 是小兒科,指標作用不大。
True.




作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-1 12:44

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Thank you for your information.
作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-2 13:48

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不明白'小兒科'是何解,請詳細解釋一下。那個中學公開考試才是'大國手' ?
作者: Starsteven    時間: 15-9-2 16:49     標題: 回覆:Choisumwong 的帖子

IGCSE 是小兒科
GCE (IAL) 和lB是大國手




作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 15-9-2 17:20

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iGCSE and IB DP (or GCE A levels) are just 2 years apart and it is rare for a student to do well in iGCSE and then crash and burn 2 years later. I wouldn't say it won't happen but it is rare, so iGCSE does serve as a prediction.
作者: samsam123321    時間: 15-9-2 20:27

igcse 同以前會考咁,讀得多科而且科科A*都唔係易,esf 學校裡也只有1,兩人能夠10A*,當中可能包括外語。叫個DSE去考都考唔到10科,可能考得7科到。

作者: nintendo    時間: 15-9-3 11:19

annie40 發表於 15-9-1 09:55
IGCSE 是小兒科,指標作用不大。

annie40,好少見你。最熱鬧是兩三年前,當時 EK 較多中學家長,
有一批家長如你我,仔女而家上晒高中甚至大學,好少出聲。
呢度 D 家長,好敏感,佢地以為你抺黑 igcse。
有時親身經歷,反而引起大家質疑。
有 D 説話,不能講,
上次多口分享經驗和個人感受,不合某些人心水,比人噴。


作者: annie40    時間: 15-9-3 12:46

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潛水了幾天就是因為講出經驗都未必有人信,又或誤會了在說「風涼話」,可能有人考到死死下。
簡單是每年GSIS的三十多個學生中,經常是最少有七八個考9A*以上,英國名牌私校中,學生取全A*是正常賽果,每年報Oxbridge,每間萬多申請人,合共約三萬人,大部份的手持六七科IGCSE  A*。每次見10A*狀元上報,感覺是唔知就羨慕死,知道就有點可笑了。不是孩子唔夠叻,而是叻叻如GSIS都好低調,其他學校點好意思見報。

離奇是學校在十一月話預估Chemistry是C的學生,出去補習三個半月,期間又無認真溫書,(因為要拍拖和照顧有情緒病的同學),竟然五月考試,拿了個A*。可能性得四個:
1)補習超有用,早知老早前三年就補習,可以做提早做「愛恩斯坦」
2)孩子是曠世奇葩
3)考試內容淺和少,有良好學習能力的孩子,攞住雞精notes, 自修都攪掂。(語文科未必合用)
4)出貓又或計錯分,大贈送。

又或曰咁啱啫?但連科Maths都系咁,只能老實相信第3)是事實。

順帶一提是樓主孩子已經離開ESF,舊情人和情敵feel尤在, 始終很想知道我的生活比你好!

註:把IGCSE考試形容為小兒科,帶有貶意,在此道歉。















作者: annie40    時間: 15-9-3 13:06

語文科要短期提升不易,理科的內容少,補習班的老師一般是一般,但有責任感(收錢嘛)強項是大量整理notes提供重點,pass paper, 認真操是有分別。

IGCSE 12A*狀元的媽媽話A Level深得多。佢個女話深,我睇都系掛?
作者: Atticus    時間: 15-9-3 13:56     標題: 引用:回覆+nintendo+的帖子 潛水了幾天就是因為

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潛水了幾天就是因為講出經驗都未必有人信,又或誤會了在說「風涼話」,可能有人考到 ...
annie40 妳就是這點好。評論一向中肯。剛才有點 surprised 妳竟然會說「小兒科」等 derogatory remarks。但妳能即時修正,值得讚許!




作者: lui    時間: 15-9-3 14:41     標題: 引用:IGCSE+是小兒科,指標作用不大。

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IGCSE 是小兒科,指標作用不大。
我朋友有個補習學生,st Paul  boy's 下游,去左澳洲讀書,讀唔掂。請我朋友教IGCSE maths.一月教,三個月貨仔,得A.佢話人人話a不是什麼。不代表叻。結果入番st Paul boys.repeat 中四or 中五。考DSE.




作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-3 15:22

哈哈,生活得比人好總是女性的推理及想法,與事實無關。
作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-3 15:51

只是幫朋友找些資料,選擇轉英基好,還是到英國好,比較學校的GCSE成績,幫助選取。不知為何又關本人及小朋友什麼事。
作者: joys2334    時間: 15-9-3 19:10

其實11A* 或12A* IGCSE的同學都係佔好少,可能每間ESF都係一至二個,所以全A*又唔係想像中咁易。。。。。。
作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-4 00:11

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作者: caa    時間: 15-9-4 09:36

When we look at school results we look at trends. I think a school consistently having around 90% A-A* and a school consistently having 60% A-A* do have the difference. IGCSE and A level/ IB have a big gap maybe but if a school can't do IGCSE good it seems impossible for it to do A level/IB good
作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 15-9-4 10:59

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caa 發表於 15-9-4 09:36
When we look at school results we look at trends. I think a school consistently having around 90% A- ...

Yes, trends aren't certainties but they do give some kind of indication.

If a school consistently produces 90% A-A* then there is a good chance that a child may achieve that. Some contrarians may pay more attention to exceptions and point out that the child could end up in the 10% who don't do well. They are by no means wrong, they just have a different outlook to life :)

PS: When I mentioned contrarians I was not referring to anyone in this forum. Optimists invented the aeroplane and pessimists invented the parachute, we can all contribute positively no matter what our outlook is.

作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-4 12:14

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作者: caa    時間: 15-9-4 12:51

One major factor that we have to consider when choosing schools is peer influence / pressure. If a kid is surrounded by friends and classmates who do well (reflected in the school consistently having good public exam results), he/she will likely try to do his/her best and put more effort too.
作者: oooray    時間: 15-9-4 12:56

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同意。這是標準打做神校的方程式。
從來只有神級學生;極少神級老師;
就算有;都唔使打工做老師;出來下海私人補習搵真銀仲好。(即係神校唔再有神級老師)
神校的價值;只是提供一個聚集神級學生的學習平台而矣。
學生唔努力一樣要墊屍底。


作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-4 13:33

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caa 發表於 15-9-4 12:51
One major factor that we have to consider when choosing schools is peer influence / pressure. If a k ...

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我女兒非常貪玩,但要好的朋友中有straight A 的,也有成績普通的。




作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-4 13:58

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同意。這是標準打做神校的方程式。
大家小心不要以偏概全。由幾間名校的認識,推及所有名校,包括國際學校。
作者: lui    時間: 15-9-4 18:09     標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+bobbycheung+於+15-9-4+15:43+

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用 Annie40 的例子, GSIS係consistently有85%左右的人在I ...
咁英國頂尖中學又會否叫成績不佳的走?




作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-4 19:08     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+bobbycheung+於+15-09-04+發

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原帖由 lui 於 15-09-04 發表
咁英國頂尖中學又會否叫成績不佳的走?

普通人如何得知英國學校,或GSlS,或ClS,或SlS,會否叫成績不佳的走?

可信的,是被趕走的家長,或趕人的學校老師校長的現身說法。




作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-4 19:21

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作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-4 22:25

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中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走.
I only say what I know for sure.

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Are you sure this is the case?  For which schools. How did you know it is true?

作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-4 22:56

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中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走.
I only say what I know for
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I know kids in GSIS who were clearly academic failures but stayed in the school for many years.  Did they stayed until IGCSE time?  Will they stay until IGCSE time?  I am not sure.  I said kids because there were/are more than one kid I know. I was wondering why were you so sure.




作者: samsam123321    時間: 15-9-4 23:51

會不會知名人士子女就不會被叫走?走的只是普通家庭子女

作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-5 00:06

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作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-5 01:07

If you are like me, knowing kids who were/are academic bottom dwellers for years, including those not doing tuitions classes and yet somebody "categorically" know for sure, wouldn't you have suspicion?  Of course you wouldn't, would you?
作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-5 02:13

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作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-5 06:32

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 15-9-5 06:51 編輯

Categorically is a strong word as it means no exceptions.

中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走.

You openly made comments like these without qualifications and other conditions. How one can draw conclusions like these knowing only a handful of cases, a dozen of cases?

You still don't understand, do you?  I am not challenging your integrity. I am saying your statements do not the have weight they deserve based on the info you provided. The burden is on you to justify your categorical statement, not me.

But it is ok, it seems you have no more information to share and others will draw their own conclusions.
作者: caa    時間: 15-9-5 08:46

If IGCSE is really that easy and even studying for only 3 months can move one from a C to an A, how could a student (already 15 or older who should be old enough to take responsibilities) get such bad results as to "deserve" being advised to leave a school?
作者: caa    時間: 15-9-5 08:51

Or put it another way, if the school is all about academics, maybe the school is really not suitable to a student who could not do well even in an exam that's so easy according to some people
作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-5 10:03

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shadeslayer 發表於 15-9-5 06:32
Categorically is a strong word as it means no exceptions.

中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走.
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作者: shadeslayer    時間: 15-9-5 11:02     標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+bobbycheung+於+15-9-5+10:29+

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Don't you get it?  Telling individual cases are fine, with whatever information these cases might have. You telling cases of students asked by the school to leave are perfectly fine. Me telling cases of students very weak academically stayed in the school for many years. You accuse my cases being weak. That is fine. I won't manufacture something.

Drawing blanket statement or categorical statement like "中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走." up front from whatever cases you might have is bound to be controversial. When you draw conclusions you should be prepared to demonstrate that your conclusion is reasonable based on the cases you have. The burden therefore is on whoever making blanket statements. I am not shifting burden, see?

You said

"中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走."

Followed by "I only say things that I know for sure" is pretty blanket/categorical, whether you meant it or not.

"中途如果你成績唔得, (學校)會開聲叫你走"

Is a blanket conclusion/statement and is open to others who might what to know how you drew that conclusion.

"我認識(幾位/十幾位/一百位)中途成績唔得的學生, 學校開聲叫佢地走. " is fine as it is information, not a conclusion.

"中途如果你成績唔得, 學校好可能開聲叫你走" is a conclusion but it is not a blanket statement and I would probably not bothered to ask how you draw this conclusion.

Can you see the difference?  Of course you don't.

You probably don't have further information to provide, I will stop right here.


作者: nintendo    時間: 15-9-5 11:11

caa 發表於 15-9-5 08:46
If IGCSE is really that easy and even studying for only 3 months can move one from a C to an A, how  ...

May be we should take a step back.Different people have different abilities. The spread of exam result data is always a typical gaussian distribution.
The easiest curriculum can still be hard for students that are not academic. And thus the lowest percentile of the distribution can be a "fail".



As regards whether any school is asking students to leave school, I do believe no one is purposely lying here.
A responsible school and a responsible teacher should try to understand the ability of a student and come up with suggestions of what future pathways a student can take. Whether a parent take it as "the school is kicking my son out" or "the school is suggesting alternative that is more suitable" is up to the parent.
If I were the parent, I would have been worried too. But I am sure I would thank the school in 10 years time.
There is no point dragging on in a curriculum that my child struggles to even get a pass. Why not move forward and choose a pathway that is more suitable?






作者: nintendo    時間: 15-9-5 11:21

caa 發表於 15-9-5 08:51
Or put it another way, if the school is all about academics, maybe the school is really not suitable to a student who could not do well even in an exam that's so easy according to some people

This probably sums up everything.
Unfortunately some parents take it hard and feel upset, betrayed etc ....

作者: caa    時間: 15-9-5 11:45

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Unfortunately there aren't many choices in HK. I heard ESF has another path besides IB but don't know any details
作者: nintendo    時間: 15-9-5 11:54

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Unfortunately there aren't many choices in HK. I heard ESF has another path be ...


ESF students are very fortunate. We have BTEC as an alternative. But not all schools offer BTEC. Students might need to go to another ESF school.
You are right. There are not many choices in HK. However, I think most students attending international schools are from families that can afford to seek alternative elsewhere.



作者: bobbycheung    時間: 15-9-5 12:02

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Don't you get it?  Telling individual cases are fine, with whatever information these cases might h ...
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作者: slamai    時間: 15-9-14 18:04

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The following ESF webpage updated on 7.9.2015 for IGCSE/GCSE results:

http://www.esf.edu.hk/esfpublicexams/students

作者: Choisumwong    時間: 15-9-14 19:26

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Thank you very much for your information. As ESF is non- selective, I think that the IGCSE results are actually good.
作者: slamai    時間: 15-9-15 12:35

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Agreed.

The following statistics of CIE's IGCSE serve as a good reference as well:

http://www.cie.org.uk/images/252264-cambridge-igcse-results-statistics-june-2015.pdf





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