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作者: Ern 時間: 15-8-29 08:24 標題: 邊間國際學校主打普通話&英文?
可以summarize 一下嗎?
冇外國passport，會試SIS，想知除左CIS 、HKIS、SIS 仲有咩學校可以報?
而家女女讀K1，thanks!!!
作者: lovecasey 時間: 15-8-29 09:29
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Most of the IS teach in English and Mandarin, the list above you have are all hard to get in I would say.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 15-8-29 09:39
ISF
如有心入IS, 多考幾間, 這幾間都非常難入.
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-29 11:00
本帖最後由 cnh0397 於 15-8-29 13:35 編輯
Canadian International School, Kiangsu Chekiang International Section, American International School, Kingston International School. By the way, ISF is NOT an international school, though it's a very good school with a very strong chinese program.
作者: torunpoland 時間: 15-8-29 13:23
或者問問:
邊間國際學校唔係主打普通話&英文?
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-29 13:41 標題: 引用：Canadian+International+School,+Kiangsu+C
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Canadian International School, Kiangsu Chekiang Internat ...
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-29 14:12
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Ok chill….. My apology if my statement has offended anyone here. That was the information given by the school a year or two ago when I went there for a school visit. They specifically mentioned that their acceptance ratio must be 70% local and 30% foreigner / non-permanent residents according to the HK Government policy. So as far as I understand, that means they are just an independent private school instead of an international school. In addition, they were yet to be able to obtain the IB accreditation (IB PYP) because the way how their programs were structured at the time. Of course things might have changed since, so thanks for your clarification.
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-29 19:11 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+cnh0397+於+15-8-29+15:26+編
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International School 在世界各地存在了好幾十年，IB課只是近10年先流行。難道沒有IB前那些IS都不是IS嗎？
其實叫行IB的本地學校做Private Independence School都冇乜問題，呢個只是一間學校的類型，又不是一個貶義詞，不明白為甚麼有些人咁執著敏感，覺得如果別人話間學校不是IS, 就等於係貶低間學校 ……
作者: NoahArk 時間: 15-8-29 19:47 標題: 回覆：邊間國際學校主打普通話&英文?
It's also curious why some people insist that ISF is not an international schools. Btw, isn't the Council of International Schools more authoritative than HKSAR in telling what an international school is.
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-29 21:11
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It is also quite interesting to see how they described themselves as Private Independent School too….
Sourced from their website :
"History[p=16, null, left]The Independent Schools Foundation was established in February 2000 as a registered charitable organization to provide diversity in choice of education for local students. In 2003, the Foundation established a non-profit, Private Independent School, The Independent Schools Foundation Academy (The ISF Academy), for Foundation Year to Grade 12 in order to cater to the increasing demand for the highest caliber Putonghua and English education in an inquiry-based learning environment."Anyhoo, as the previous poster has mentioned, when I said it's not an international school I was by no means degrading the school.
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-29 21:45 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+cnh0397+於+15-08-29+發表本
原帖由 紅紅 於 15-08-29 發表
我覺得International School從來的定義係學生來自世界各地，而不在於用甚麼課程，政府以此定義IS好合理，要 ...
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-29 22:09 標題: 回覆：Atticus 的帖子
This is the info posted by the HK government. RC and DC are also private independent schools (i.e., not "international schools" according to some people) but I wonder why people don't bother to point out that RC and DC aren't international schools :
Private Independent Schools
International schools and Private Independent Schools (“PISs”) are both part of the private school sector. Most PISs offer non-local curriculum. While the policy objective, target students, and requirements applicable to PISs are different from those of international schools, some may consider them as alternatives to international schools.
The Government supports the development of PISs to foster the growth of a quality private school sector so to inject more diversity in the school system and to provide parents with more choices. PISs serve primarily the demand for school places from local families seeking an alternative to public sector schools. PISs are required to ensure that at least 70% of the student population are Hong Kong Permanent Residents. Parents interested in sending their children to study in PISs may follow the links below and contact the individual schools direct.
Name of School Location (District) Level offered
Discovery College Discovery Bay (Islands) primary, secondary
The Independent Schools Foundation Academy Pok Fu Lam (Southern) primary, secondary
International Christian School Shek Mun (Sha Tin) primary, secondary
Po Leung Kuk Choi Kai Yau School Caldecott Road (Shamshuipo) primary, secondary
Renaissance College Ma On Shan (Sha Tin) primary, secondary
Victoria Shanghai Academy Aberdeen (Southern) primary, secondary
Yew Chung International School - Secondary Kowloon Tong (Kowloon City) secondary
作者: NoahArk 時間: 15-8-29 22:14 標題: 回覆：邊間國際學校主打普通話&英文?
Big trees catch more wind.
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-29 22:43 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+紅紅+於+15-08-29+發表我覺得
原帖由 Atticus 於 15-08-29 發表
Well, I guess you will have to ask those people who made that statement in the first place - so why ...
To me, this is a very positive comment about the school as it is, regardless what type of school it is being classified. The classification of the school is a fact, an ojective observation, not a subjective comment.
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-29 22:52 標題: 引用：Big+trees+catch+more+wind.
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原帖由 NoahArk 於 15-08-29 發表
Big trees catch more wind.
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 00:39
紅紅 發表於 15-8-29 22:43 
In this thread, I saw one said: "ISF is NOT an international school, though it's a very good school ...
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 00:57 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+NoahArk+於+15-08-29+發表Big
原帖由 紅紅 於 15-08-29 發表
只是說不是IS, 但是一間很好的學校，也能令人認為樹大招風！未免太高估IS這類別吧！一話不是IS就認為別人貶 ...
作者: Ern 時間: 15-8-30 01:59 標題: 引用：可以summarize+一下嗎? 冇外國passport，
原帖由 Ern 於 15-08-29 發表
可以summarize 一下嗎?
冇外國passport，會試SIS，想知除左CIS 、HKIS、SIS 仲有咩學校可以報?
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-30 11:02
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I still don't see how the statement is false. Once again, the information was given by the school during my visit. They didn't regard themselves as an international school but a private independent school with an international perspective. They made that clear during the information session.
In regards to the CIS accreditation, for those who thinks receiving the accreditation from this organization means the school is being classified as an international school should read more about this organization and what the accreditation is for before jumping to the conclusion.
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 12:53
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I still don't see how the statement is false. Once again, the information was ...
作者: nintendo 時間: 15-8-30 13:01
人生百態。
在 EK， 家長可以好極端。
有 D 好得體，見人贊其他學校，都比個 like ；見人批評自己學校，可能出來講兩句，澄清下，人地堅持要「唱」，冇計。
又有 D ，明明冇批評，冇負面，但常覺得被針對被逼害，係都要申個頭出來，惹人笑柄。
其實，來 EK 十居其九己有自己的心水，甚至己選定學校，入埋讀緊。
真正「新手」少。而網友都係成人，自然有主觀要求。
ISF 是否 international school，其實有冇人 care？
ISF 家長比得咁多錢出嚟，點會唔知學校咩定位咩實力？唔好以為人地懵。
而那些在乎「ISF 唔係 international school 」的，反而多數唔係 ISF 家長，
咁關注一間唔係自己仔女讀緊的學校，辛苦晒喎。
作為非 ISF 家長，我見到的，是間唔錯的學校，中文課程強，資源不錯。是否最好？未必，但必定是很多人眼中首選，多年來，帶不少學生入讀心儀大學。有冇缺點？有吧？我唔熟，唔敢講。但有那一間學校全無缺點，全無家長不滿？唉，神校都有人批評，只係未必在 EK 批評，但出面聽唔少。況且，邊有咁多神校？一將功成萬骨枯，大家將焦點放在 IB 狀元，大家心目中神校，一樣有人考得差，冇人提而己。
討論學校，重點討論特式好了，那一間較好，由用家自行決定。
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 14:04 標題: 引用：人生百態。在+EK，+家長可以好極端。有+D+
原帖由 nintendo 於 15-08-30 發表
人生百態。
在 EK， 家長可以好極端。
有 D 好得體，見人贊其他學校，都比個 like ；見人批評自己學校，可 ...
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 14:29 標題: 回覆：Atticus 的帖子
其實EK是一個讓大家發表意見的 platform. 有閒情的便發表一下，不喜歡的可以不看。但永遠總有一些人喜歡以高人一等智者般口問教訓其他人應該怎樣發表意見。莫明其妙。
作者: hermitcrab 時間: 15-8-30 17:51 標題: 引用：人生百態。在+EK，+家長可以好極端。有+D+
原帖由 nintendo 於 15-08-30 發表
人生百態。
在 EK， 家長可以好極端。
有 D 好得體，見人贊其他學校，都比個 like ；見人批評自己學校，可 ...
記得曾經在一個舊同學的婚禮上遇見另一位舊同學，呢位人士除了係同行之外亦係一名頗知名的兒童心理學家，經常上電台或接受報紙訪問。傾談中，佢話ISF其實並不是一間好學校，課程唔適合香港小朋友，我只是有禮貌地一笑置之，我並冇駁斥佢。
作者: Activehealth 時間: 15-8-30 18:46
nintendo 發表於 15-8-30 13:01
人生百態。
在 EK， 家長可以好極端。
有 D 好得體，見人贊其他學校，都比個 like ；見人批評自己學校，可 ...
作者: hkparent 時間: 15-8-30 19:17 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+nintendo+於+15-08-30+發表人
原帖由 hermitcrab 於 15-08-30 發表
全中!其實我自己都好鍾意ISF，心裡面自己知自己鍾意佢啲乜就ok了，唔洗介意咩人點睇。
記得曾經在一個舊同 ...
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-30 19:32 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+紅紅+於+15-08-29+發表只是說
原帖由 Atticus 於 15-08-30 發表
人家只是寫了一句「樹大招風」，又沒有得罪你，你還不是一樣忍不住出手長篇大論教訓人？既然那麼有智慧，便 ...
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-30 19:34 標題: 引用：其實EK是一個讓大家發表意見的+platform.+
原帖由 Atticus 於 15-08-30 發表
其實EK是一個讓大家發表意見的 platform. 有閒情的便發表一下，不喜歡的可以不看。但永遠總有一些人喜歡以 ...
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-8-30 19:36 標題: 回覆：邊間國際學校主打普通話&英文
根本只係話不是IS, 但冇講過ISF一句壞話，仲話係好好的學校，咁都是惡意批評？
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 21:28 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Atticus+於+15-08-30+發表其
本帖最後由 Atticus 於 15-8-30 22:05 編輯
原帖由 紅紅 於 15-08-30 發表
你自己咪又係
I do agree with you on this one, haha!
Well, actually on 2nd thought, I do think there is a difference. Even if I disagreed with other people's comments, I wouldn't say that those comments were laughable.
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-30 21:38 標題: 引用：根本只係話不是IS,+但冇講過ISF一句壞話，
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原帖由 紅紅 於 15-08-30 發表
根本只係話不是IS, 但冇講過ISF一句壞話，仲話係好好的學校，咁都是惡意批評？
...
This one I'm perplexed about - did I say whether I thought ISF was a good school or not? I merely don't understand why some people love to stress that ISF is not an international school. People don't tend to mention this "fact" about RC and DC. RC and DC are under ESF, so people are more prepared to overlook the fact that they too are classified as "private independent schools"? So what is the definition of "international school"? Shall we stick to the one used by the HK government or shall we rely on the one laid down by the Council of International Schools?
I copied the below from the Council of International Schools' webpage:
Characteristics of a CIS Accredited School
Accreditation has value for all members of the school community
The award of CIS Accreditation demonstrates a school’s commitment to high quality international education to the school community as well as to the outside world: prospective families, educational leaders and teachers as well as universities, embassies, other government departments, and globally-minded companies and organisations. Concerned professionals as well as parents naturally seek a quality education for children. Expatriate parents in particular face an unfamiliar environment which offers few guidelines on how best to select the most appropriate school for their child’s needs. The fact that a school holds CIS Accreditation can be very important in parents' choice of school.
Characteristics of an Accredited School
The final award of Accredited Status from CIS demonstrates that a school is aligned with the demanding CIS Standards for Accreditation. It shows that the school has achieved high standards of professional performance in international education and has a commitment to continuous improvement. In particular, the award of accreditation shows that:
- The school is devoted to its Mission and Vision for Students, as expressed in its Guiding Statements. The school also adheres consistently to the CIS Code of Ethics for Schools.
- The school cares enough to seek validation from a recognised accreditation authority for the work it does for its students.
- The schools focuses on the quality of teaching and the progress students make, their standards of achievement (in the broadest sense) as well as the students’ well-being.
- The school knows itself. It has thought deeply about the services it offers to students, family and community.
- The school is student-orientated. Its philosophy of education is suitable for the students on roll and encompasses the development of the whole individual.
- The school keeps its promises. It promises only what it can deliver.
- The school accepts objective assessment. It is prepared to open its doors periodically to regular evaluation by its own school community and by outside experienced practitioners.
- The school is constantly seeking to improve its performance in all areas in order to ensure it attains the desired learning outcomes for its students.
- The school plans strategically for the future. As part of the on-going nature of the evaluation process, accredited schools are continually planning future developments.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-8-30 22:36 標題: 回覆：邊間國際學校主打普通話&英文?
Definition of IS in the HKSAR sense or CoIS sense mean nothing in the quality of the education.
People keep bringing it up in discussion forum is beyond me. As do parents who defend it in such a passionate manner.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-8-30 22:40 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+hermitcrab+於+15-08-30+發表
原帖由 hkparent 於 15-08-30 發表
To me, I care about the student population more than the classification of the school. If there is m ...
OTOH, true" IS in the HKSAR sense like YCIS has a lot of ethnic Chinese because it is based on passports.
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-31 10:46
本帖最後由 cnh0397 於 15-8-31 10:55 編輯
a2*#
作者: cnh0397 時間: 15-8-31 10:53
本帖最後由 cnh0397 於 15-8-31 10:56 編輯
Atticus 發表於 15-8-30 12:53
Please do enlighten us what was the point that you were trying to make when you wrote "By the way, I ...
i just simply pointed out that ISF is not an international based on the facts that I received from the school during my school tour. I was neither leaving a negative comment nor criticizing the school, but obviously some people took it that way and started flipping out. I don't see the point in dwelling on this. So I won't comment further.
To the original poster, best of luck to you in selecting a school that best fits your child/children and your family. I've been through there and know how stressful it is.
Cheers everyone!
作者: amd2 時間: 15-8-31 14:03
本帖最後由 amd2 於 15-8-31 14:10 編輯
Well said
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-31 14:16
shadeslayer 發表於 15-8-30 22:40
Don't forget the 70% definition is based on having a HKID card. Many foreigners stayed in HK for mor ...
http://edb.hkedcity.net/internationalschools/private_independent_schools.php
作者: Atticus 時間: 15-8-31 14:43
cnh0397 發表於 15-8-31 10:53
i just simply pointed out that ISF is not an international based on the facts that I received from ...
作者: HulkBuster 時間: 15-8-31 15:03
Atticus 發表於 15-8-31 14:43
I wasn't "flipping out". I fail to see how my comments were "惹人笑柄" either. I simply pointed ou ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-8-31 15:43 標題: 引用：Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+15-8-30+22:40+D
原帖由 Atticus 於 15-08-31 發表
Well, according to the information given by the Education Bureau, YCIS is also officially classified ...
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