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作者: 化骨龍太太 時間: 15-5-29 20:46 標題: [可以點樣幫佢??]仔仔自己想報劍橋，但距離很遠....?
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作者: brother4 時間: 15-5-29 23:04 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢
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考好DSE報英國讀劍橋
，緊張到寢食難安
考慮用uk A level 成績報，如OX的mathematic and statistics ，A Leve| 成績要ielts 8分，mathematics A* ，F math A* Economics A， Accounting A ， phy/chem/bio A 收咗
作者: ivankan 時間: 15-5-30 07:08
下年DSE!又点用uk A level 成績報？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
作者: Yanamami 時間: 15-5-30 07:31
乜方法考到唔係重点，重点係点調教佢“非君不娶”既想法，同要有两手準備。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-5-30 09:27 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢??]仔仔自己想報劍橋，但距離很遠....?
仔仔有清晰目標真好，他又努力讀書，如果是我，我會準備多D營養豐富食物幫他加油，他肯的話傾多D計減下壓。不過話時話，我相信申請劍橋的學生大部分成績都夠入，會否要勝在personal statement, 會否有其他課外活動有影響，會否是面試較優勝？我自己就會花多D時間去收下料，近日聽過一升學顧問講過英國大學亦開始參考成績以外的因素，未必只看成績，他笑説Oxford 發現部分學生只識讀書，要派D高年級學生做mentor, 協助融入大學生活。
作者: kids-kingdom 時間: 15-5-30 11:29 標題: 引用：仔仔有清晰目標真好，他又努力讀書，如果是
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仔仔有清晰目標真好，他又努力讀書，如果是我，我會準備多D營養豐富食物幫他加油，他肯的話傾多D計減下壓。 ...
重點是manage expectation
作者: friendlyguy 時間: 15-5-30 15:49
叫佢輕鬆Ｄ。睇下這兩本書先！
http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Thin ... ridge/dp/184831132X
http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Stil ... lever/dp/1848316291
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-5-30 16:01 標題: 引用：仔仔自細都想去英國讀劍橋一直以黎成績都夠
原帖由 化骨龍太太 於 15-05-29 發表
仔仔自細都想去英國讀劍橋
一直以黎成績都夠入
但佢成日都好緊張 好怕自己輸比人
劍橋的收生成績不是最低成績，是考量完 personal statement, aptitude test, interview, college essay or more, 綜合之後，肯收你之話，他們開出的 offer 是比你的PG還要低，因為真的想收你，不要以此作標準！
亦要有兩手準備！
作者: manning2014 時間: 15-5-30 17:36
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也是一些經驗分享。如果小朋友真是有入讀牛劍的材料，作為父母真是唔需要、亦都無乜野(係呢個時候)可幫。首先入牛劍學最重要講成績。學生差不多是要頭 3% 尖子(全港, 不是全校)先認真有機會獲得考慮(此乃根據學生的校內PG), 之後再睇你的 interview + test 。再加上其他條件(ECA, leadership)，personal statement、school reference letters。正如上面回答說網頁上所說的成績是說如給予你入學 offer 所須成績。
http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/entrance-requirements.html
"Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education
Our standard HKDSE offer is 5*, 5*, and 5 in three electives."
如果學生預計只得呢個成績，咁就唔使諗啦！至於如何寫 personal statement, 更加唔使擔心。學生有咁既成績、理想，他自己和在學校的幫助下，一定寫到一篇能配合自己並能打動 admission officer 的 personal statement。好多例子顯示，成功的 person statement or college essay 並不是能從網上參考返來的。是根據自己的 passion 去寫的，如孩子有咁嘅成績和理想，恭喜你。你真是不用擔心。
作者: slamai 時間: 15-5-31 00:28
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Advise your son to keep a certain level ofexercise which can help him relax and refresh. He doesn’t need more external pressure. Don’t let him notice that you are veryconcerned about his DSE results or U destination. Show your care simply by preparing nutritioussoup, etc.
The 3 tips of this Oxford professor are quite valid for HKDSEcandidates:
http://sp.stheadline.com/smartparents/?date=2015-05-21&page=20
You may be able to helpyour son with respect to point 1 of the above tips.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-5-31 16:19
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Experience sharing too:
Personal statement: Need to start the 1st draft NOW, if not already done. Focus on PASSION towards the subject applying, what the student has done in the past, beyond the classroom, regarding the subject. If the subject is academic in nature, e.g. science, language, what books did he read, which part he is interested, describe in details. What enrichment course did he take? If vocational in nature, e.g. law, what has been done to explore if he is really interested in the subject. Any internship? Summer job?
No more than 1/3 of the statement should be for extra-curricular activities, leadership role. It's better to link how the activities are related to the subject applying
Ask a few teachers (who have experience with Cambridge application) to comment on the statement
Interview plus aptitude test: The aim is to check the POTENTIAL of the student in studying the subject. The on-campus interview is usually done by the academic staff of the college applying. It will closely follow the format of the future small group tutorial of the college. In fact, it's the time for the academic staff to choose the students that they would like to teach in future. Show that you have the insight, have the valid arguing points. You don't have to be right. But show your argument, which should make sense, and show your personal insight.
Do some mock interview with teachers.
作者: ninmum 時間: 15-5-31 17:25
申報 : 我的小朋友今年9月入U, 現在UK 讀AL, 今年年頭去了 cambrige interview, 可惜太多人爭沒有offer
正如樓上家長所說, 成績+personal statement 係主要入場卷, 其次才到 testing & interview. 不過照你所說你的兒子有目標和努力不須太擔心.其實我的小朋友考AL也不比DSE輕鬆, 佢都是埋頭苦讀, 而身為家長的我們只有信任他們的能力, 因只有信任他們你才可不斷鼓勵和為他們打氣, 多D同小朋友傾計是最好的減霍方法.
作者: skkeung 時間: 15-5-31 20:30 標題: 引用：仔仔自細都想去英國讀劍橋一直以黎成績都夠
原帖由 化骨龍太太 於 15-05-29 發表
仔仔自細都想去英國讀劍橋
一直以黎成績都夠入
但佢成日都好緊張 好怕自己輸比人
作者: Unclejt 時間: 15-5-31 22:24
有志氣！我都要報定劍橋，不過係護老院。
作者: Siumingtsz 時間: 15-6-1 09:04 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢??]仔仔自己想報劍橋，但距離很遠....?
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作者: slamai 時間: 15-6-1 17:06
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Academic performance, written test and interview normally are used for ranking first. As long as the personal statement is not a "failure", it is not as important as many may think because it is prone to "external intervention". The following old news article gives some more clues:
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/jan/10/how-cambridge-admissions-really-work
作者: dse2017 時間: 15-6-2 16:59
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作者: 化骨龍太太 時間: 15-6-2 18:27 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢
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作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-2 18:55
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If the school has university counsellor following up his Cambridge application, your son may not need to enrol in other Oxbridge prep course.
My son's school has good guidance from university counsellors on each Oxbridge application, starting from Mar/Apr when all students who want to apply Oxbridge have to make up their mind regarding the subjects to be applied. Then there is a workshop on writing of personal statement, deadline imposed on 1st draft, arranging review by several teachers and subject experts, assign subject mentors for preparing written test and interview. My son got a conditional offer from Oxbridge right now. He is waiting for release of IB result if he can meet the offer condition.
If the school can provide support similar to the above, and there are sufficient precedent cases that the students in the school have been admitted by Oxbridge before, I personally think that there is no need to enrol in prep course
作者: 化骨龍太太 時間: 15-6-2 20:20 標題: 回覆：foolish.mom 的帖子
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作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-2 20:28
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I see. The university counsellors at my son's school are not just for Oxbridge specifically. One counsellor is mainly responsible for all UK applications for all students.
I did ask the 師兄, who was admitted to Oxbridge, if he had sought help from outside consultants. The answer was no. He sought advice from school counsellor. Therefore, I followed his route.
You may want to check if the 師兄師姐 who were admitted to Oxbridge if the school counsellor advice is useful, or if they had used consultants before.
作者: samsam123321 時間: 15-6-2 20:29
預期考什麼成績？
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-2 20:50
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It's difficult to predict his IB results. 1st of all, he didn't tell me in details what he felt about each paper. I got short comments such as "I know the topics", "The questions are so tricky", "I didn't expect a question like that. It's difficult". Secondly, more than half of the answers are essay type. It's difficult to predict how high or low score he will get. The only papers that he are confident with are Math papers. Thirdly, he didn't like to check if he got the correct answers after the exam, at least not telling me the result. Finally, it's very easy to down 1 grade from his ideal grades. I predict that he might be just 1 or 2 points below grade 7 in most subjects, which make a huge difference between whether he can make the offer or not.
And it is the difficult part about IB exams.
作者: 化骨龍太太 時間: 15-6-2 22:13 標題: 回覆：foolish.mom 的帖子
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作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-2 22:18
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Understood. Then go ahead with the prep course. Good luck!
作者: Siumingtsz 時間: 15-6-2 22:49 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢??]仔仔自己想報劍橋，但距離很遠....?
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作者: EASTCOAST 時間: 15-6-2 23:13
foolish.mom 發表於 15-6-2 20:50 
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It's difficult to predict his IB results. 1st of all, he didn't tell me in ...
作者: manning2014 時間: 15-6-2 23:22
係 university admission 方面學校幫唔幫到手就真係好睇個別學校幾注重，放幾多資源落去個 department 和請到什麼經驗 嘅 councilor。環顧香港、我個人認為得幾間中學（包括一些國際學校和 2-3 本地直資名校）有好出色嘅 councillor team 去幫學生申請外國 (特別英美) 大學。所以如果你呀仔間學校幫唔到手，可以試吓出邊嗰啲預備班包括 CSFC。
作者: brother4 時間: 15-6-3 00:08 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢
CSFC有幾多成功例子？10%有？
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 15-6-3 00:48
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 15-6-3 00:52 編輯
他必須明白過份緊張係大忌, 因為會影響表現. 成日擔心入唔到, 注意力無形中放在這問題上, 好容易令溫習時變得唔專心. 其實入唔入到係要睇自己及其他申請者的相對實力再加一點點運氣. 自己只能盡力做到最好, 而其他人嘅表現等因素根本係自己能力範圍以外嘅野, 完全控制唔到, 擔心緊張亦無補於事. 最後要明白讀書只是人生一個階段. 因為自己嘅努力入到自己夢想的大學固然值得高興, 但入唔到亦唔係世界末日. 盡咗力就OK咯. 讀書只係頭盤. 往後出嚟做事嗰幾十年先係主菜. 當你食緊主菜或甜品時又鬼有人理得你頭盤食甚麼咩(在那裏讀書咩).
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-3 10:32
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EASTCOAST,
My son's offer conditions are exactly the same as those listed under the "Requirement" of that subject in the University website. Sorry, I don't what to disclose it exactly here, as it's my son's privacy. He will kill me if he knows I am making comments here.
Some of my son's classmates also got conditional offers from Oxbridge. Their offer conditions also closely follow those listed on the website. If the typical offer conditions are IB 40-41, a very strong candidate got IB 40 as the condition, while a relatively weaker candidate got IB 41. Their predicted scores are higher, at least IB 42.
According to my son, the most important parts of the admission process are Predicted score (important), Personal statement (less important, this piece is extremely easy as compared with their US essays), Written test (very important), Interview (extremely important).
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-3 10:40
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要盡量令他不可有非君不嫁的念頭. Many universities are equally good, e.g. Imperial College, LSE, UCL, HKU/CU elite programs. As written test and interview actually decide if the candidate will be admitted, it will pretty much depend on 狀態 and luck.
作者: EASTCOAST 時間: 15-6-3 12:22
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Thank you. For those selected by oxbridge for an interveiw, the conditional offer of 40/41 out of 45 is quite easy to achieve. Good luck to your son.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-6-3 17:00 標題: 引用：回覆+foolish.mom+的帖子 Thank+you.++For
原帖由 EASTCOAST 於 15-06-03 發表
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Thank you. For those selected by oxbridge for an interveiw, the conditiona ...
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-3 18:28
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Cambridge conditional offers are typically IB 40-41 or sometimes IB 42.
Oxford conditional offers are usually IB 38-40 depending on courses applied.
That's why I can't disclose my son's offer conditions. Once disclosed, one may easily guess whether it's Oxford or Cambridge.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-6-3 18:49
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This book was recommended by the school:
"Getting into Oxford and Cambridge" by Sean P. Buckley
ISBN 978-1-909319-19-6
I bought and read the whole book. I felt I became clearer in all aspects of the admission process. There are quite some samples of personal statements of candidates who were actually admitted to Oxbridge, and some sample interviewing questions and technique too.
Mine is for 2015 entry. I think there should be an updated one for 2016 entry.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-6-3 19:14 標題: 引用：回覆+poonseelai+的帖子 Cambridge+condit
原帖由 foolish.mom 於 15-06-03 發表
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Cambridge conditional offers are typically IB 40-41 or sometimes IB 42.
作者: manning2014 時間: 15-6-4 11:30
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Actually, you did mention (in other thread) that your son's oxbridge offer is same as his LSE and UCL offers which are typically IB point 38. People already know your son's offer is from Oxford. Be more cautious when giving comment on social media. Anyway congrats. I am sure your son will make it, he wouldn't get too bad grade even he messed up some paper.
作者: ka媽 時間: 15-7-15 13:55 標題: 回覆：[可以點樣幫佢??]仔仔自己想報劍橋，但距離很遠....?
其實成績夠入係次要，世界各地學生大把人夠分想入，如果參加面試，
考官唔會似以前咁問＂點解你要入劍橋＂，而比機會你刷佢地鞋就過關，
佢地會問＂我地點解要收你＂，你預備好點答未？
依家好多學院都唔想收果D只識讀書，其他一無事處的人，
比如家中富有，可以增加學院捐助，
比如運動項目出眾，可以在校界賽領先，
另外，性格開朗主動都有優勢。
以上可能唔啱聽，但多少係事實，
希望樓主不會介意！
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