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作者: dobbybabie 時間: 15-3-9 21:13 標題: 為何科大咁早收生?why?
有位學生今年應該是讀中六,要考DSE, 但是上年(或前年?忘了)他去了新西蘭讀書,今年新年回來放term break。佢話剛收到科大通知收左佢入大學,點解科大咁早收生?👆上面那張就是科大俾佢,寫住Status "offer pending acceptance", 咁即係咪代表收左佢,只是學生未回覆是否accept offer?

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作者: dobbybabie 時間: 15-3-9 21:34 標題: 引用:有位學生今年應該是讀中六,要考DSE,+但是
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有位學生今年應該是讀中六,要考DSE, 但是上年(或前年?忘了)他去了新西蘭讀書,今年新年回來放term brea ...

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作者: wildberries 時間: 15-3-9 22:06
是non-jupus嗎?香港3大的確已經出咗offer
作者: dobbybabie 時間: 15-3-9 22:49 標題: 引用:是non-jupus嗎?香港3大的確已經出咗offer
原帖由 wildberries 於 15-03-09 發表
是non-jupus嗎?香港3大的確已經出咗offer
應該係non jupus. 咁係未收咗啦。如果係咁又㡬`好,出去兩三年,避—避Dse

作者: wildberries 時間: 15-3-9 22:53
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要視乎是firm offer 還是conditional offer!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-9 23:18
Like conditional offer of non-JUPAS.
作者: dobbybabie 時間: 15-3-9 23:22 標題: 引用:回覆+dobbybabie+的帖子
要視乎是firm+off
原帖由 wildberries 於 15-03-09 發表
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要視乎是firm offer 還是conditional offer!
可否詳細講下兩者分別,Thx

作者: happyfarm 時間: 15-3-10 11:18
科大business 比港大中大難入嗎?IB要幾分?
作者: dlam141231 時間: 15-3-10 15:21
科大似乎年年都係比港大中大早出offer, 外甥女, regular round, 申請business school, 2月中旬已收offer, IB 35分便成. 阿妹剛俾左1萬元留位費, 佢話deadline係這個月十幾號, 但港大中大仲未出offer, 唯有買個保險俾住先.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-10 15:32 標題: 引用:科大似乎年年都係比港大中大早出offer,+外
原帖由 dlam141231 於 15-03-10 發表
科大似乎年年都係比港大中大早出offer, 外甥女, regular round, 申請business school, 2月中旬已收offer, I ...
每年科大從中收不少這種捐款!
係財路嚟!
我覺得冇必要迫人早咁多作 conditional offer 決定,到出咗成績,又迫人好早決定 offer,又再殺埋你一個學期學費。
自己捐咗作保險,冇乜所謂; 但對一些基層家庭,十分寃枉及吃力,俾多1-2星期就可以!

作者: ivankan 時間: 15-3-10 22:35
我都捐過。一大財路呀!!_科大
作者: EASTCOAST 時間: 15-3-11 00:12 標題: 引用:科大似乎年年都係比港大中大早出offer,+外
原帖由 dlam141231 於 15-03-10 發表
科大似乎年年都係比港大中大早出offer, 外甥女, regular round, 申請business school, 2月中旬已收offer, I ...
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作者: dlam141231 時間: 15-3-11 09:01
本帖最後由 dlam141231 於 15-3-11 09:11 編輯
我不能肯定, 但香港的大學, 似乎只出conditional offer, 就是成績再好的學生, 給的都是conditional offer, 只不過大學方面會把要求再降低. 譬如說, 外甥女讀IB, PG是40 (又好像是41, 忘記了), 她申請科大business school, 科大給conditional offer要求35分. 但我確知有PG 42+的, 科大給的conditional offer要求更低至34分.
有一點也我想一些家長不要誤會, 以為IB較其他考試系統更易入到香港三大. 有家長曾說, IB 35分便入到科大商學院, IB學生很容易就入到香港三大. 其實學生要先有PG 40+, 科大才會給出35分這個要求. 這PG 40+, 基本上六科都要拿到6分或7分才成. 也聽說有學生的conditional offer是36分(同樣是科大商學院), 不知該學生的PG是多少了.
這是我對香港三大對IB學生入學要求的理解, 有錯請幫忙更正, 又或補充.
作者: dlam141231 時間: 15-3-11 09:18
本帖最後由 dlam141231 於 15-3-11 09:23 編輯
btw, 科大的一萬元留位費, 我也捐過, 就算最後兒子沒去科大, 回想當其時, 我也是捐得樂意.
兒子當年是在一月下旬便拿到offer, 當時一鳥在手, 科大也確實是蠻好的一間大學, 有了這個保底, 無論家長或孩子, 跟著的幾個月, 都可以放鬆心情去面對.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-11 12:53
dlam141231 發表於 15-3-11 09:01 
我不能肯定, 但香港的大學, 似乎只出conditional offer, 就是成績再好的學生, 給的都是conditional offer, ...
That's what I understand as well. A friend's daughter went to Oxford to study law. Oxford's conditional offer was IB 38. That means Oxford really really wanted this student. Her PG was either 44 or 45.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-3-11 18:50
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Typical offers of Oxford to IB students are IB 38-40. For law, it is typically IB 38. So this case is just normal.
Oxford is famous for giving conditional offers which are particularly low. The reason is that they screened the potential students by Predicted grades, admission test results and interview performance. Once Oxford gives offer, they really want to recruit that student. Cambridge offers are typically higher at IB 40-42.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 15-3-13 08:18
thanks for the information in oxford.
HKU typically sent out offer after 7 January this year as told by a friend working there, then science U last month, finally CU this few weeks, for UK, most U already send out offer since November and the last round is this month.
so for students, they don't have such high pressure, they know what they need to achieve and can plan ahead.
作者: dlam141231 時間: 15-3-13 09:54
本帖最後由 dlam141231 於 15-3-13 10:02 編輯
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我兒情況有點不同, 他完全沒有申請英國的大學, 申請香港的, 也只是用作補底. 他目標是美國大學, 而美國的大學一般只出unconditional offer, regular round的申請, 要等到三月底才會有通知, 但只要拿到offer, 一切便塵埃落定, 完全不用等到IB成績放榜. 我們當時的想法是, 有了科大補底, 三月底美國方面的結果如何, 也可泰然處之, 如果拿到美國的offer並不是心儀的top u, 那就留在香港讀科大, 等到讀master degree才出國. 結果, 他如願去了美國.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-13 10:36
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一直都是科大最早出 Offer,然後是港大及中大,我指是 Fast track.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 15-3-13 11:17
本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 15-3-13 11:18 編輯
I mean non-Jupas, those I knew who got science U conditional offer was in end of Jan/Feb. HKU was after 7 Jan, around 15-20/ Jan offer already sent out. iIguess it also depends on if they really want you.
Non jupas and UCAS UK both offer early conditional offers, so would relief the pressure.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-13 11:32
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可要睇邊 d 科目,以我所知 商科及科學是一向科大早d,可能港大見到是財路,早d通知有着數!
冇所謂啦,一定要買保險!
作者: mattsmum 時間: 15-3-13 11:54
本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 15-3-13 11:56 編輯
財路? these HK Universities in HK charge HK students HKD10,000 for non-jupas, but they charge china student HKD 48,000.
it is a nightmare for university's financial planning if student pay the deposit but does not come. that is what i heard from a university's officer.
作者: Unclejt 時間: 15-3-13 13:49
ANChan59 發表於 15-3-13 11:32 
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可要睇邊 d 科目,以我所知 商科及科學是一向科大早d,可能港大見到是財路,早d通知 ...
爭學生或則有之,財路應該不在考慮之列。收到的留位費,又唔會撥入 Faculty,負責收生的,犯不著為大學的儲備擔心。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-14 10:28
Unclejt 發表於 15-3-13 13:49 
爭學生或則有之,財路應該不在考慮之列。收到的留位費,又唔會撥入 Faculty,負責收生的,犯不著為大學的儲 ...
正經d 答番你,4年前科大是好貫徹行學院制,將所有神科水泡科炒埋一碟,但其餘兩大會將神科分拆獨立收生!
如果有仔女PG / 成績不俗,三間都有 offer ,科大俾個BBA你「袋住先」,要再砌多一年爆GPA,才知畢業主修甚麼;中大俾個QFRM,港大BBA + LLB,就算科大最早出 offer ,就算交咗留位費,你會選邊間?科大自己知㗎,但策略上未必收到最好的學生,只能收到不少捐款$$ (其實又不多,幾百萬左右分手費)。
4年前跟 Admission 高層分析咗學生及家長的想法是不一樣的,他們認為因為學生未知畢業的主修,有機會入到GBus,可以吸引多d尖子及DSE失手的高手。 一年後,發覺整體收生成績比起兩大低,算盤打唔響,才將GBus部份學位抽出嚟獨立收生。
我只是重提3-4年前的看法,所以我們一直以科大作水泡,因為早出 offer ,但上望其餘兩大及海外名牌大學。
再講多一點,三年前小兒果屆有十個 lB同學申請GBus,全部PG 40+,但科大只俾一個PG只有40的有GBus offer,其餘全是BBA。在面試時,集中問你報邊幾間邊幾科,令到靣試時是考慮你嚟唔嚟,多於吸引尖子,聰明的學生即場 Disqualified 咗佢,以佢作水泡!
我不是貶低科大的學術地位,只是覺得他們的收生目的,程序,通知有好大改善空間!假如想收尖子,要積極 d,俾多d sweetener,不一定是獎學金,誠意都好重要!
作者: 武航 時間: 15-3-14 11:56
本帖最後由 武航 於 15-3-14 11:59 編輯
被你勾起兩年前的片段, 兒子當年科大面試的前一晚, 我們已預測了"報了些甚麼, 你最終會如何挑" 這個問題了. 我問他這個問題時 , 他呆了呆, 我跟兒子說, 讀書人誠實還是最重要
於是在正式面試時, 他說出了誠實的答案: "如果我說我會捨劍橋而選科大的話我就是說謊了, (眾教授聽了呢句已經在笑) 但現階段說出不出國對我來說實有太多變數 , 要是留港 , 科大gbus 是我夢寐以求的首選.
結果是:
了無音訊, 亦無任何offer , 直至放榜後.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-14 12:23
武航 發表於 15-3-14 11:56 
被你勾起兩年前的片段, 兒子當年科大面試的前一晚, 我們已預測了"報了些甚麼, 你最終會如何挑" 這個問題了. ...
小兒都是答劍橋首選,所以只有安慰獎小捐款機會! 
作者: October. 時間: 15-3-15 09:31
雖然科大依家GBus學位係獨立收生, 但如果讀緊BBA而GPA又爆的話, 第二年可以揀讀GBUS。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-15 10:20 標題: 引用:雖然科大依家GBus學位係獨立收生,+但如果
原帖由 October. 於 15-03-15 發表
雖然科大依家GBus學位係獨立收生, 但如果讀緊BBA而GPA又爆的話, 第二年可以揀讀GBUS。 ...
我上面都寫咗部份GBus學位獨立收生,原因就是我上面所解釋。
接觸大學越多,越發覺他們離地太遠,有時話諮詢,但只接受合他們心意的意見。

作者: EASTCOAST 時間: 15-3-25 17:33
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It seems they really want to improve :
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 15-3-25 18:02 標題: 引用:回覆+ANChan59+的帖子 It+seems+they+real
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It seems they really want to improve :
Good attempt.
They need to drop the school base admission scheme for top programs, they can recruitment better students.
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