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標題: RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎? [打印本頁]
作者: lpanna 時間: 15-2-17 21:09 標題: RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
RC and VSA ,2間都係學繁體中文,IB課程,一條龍,學費差唔多,校舍2間都幾好,請問你地覺得2間仲有咩不同,要考慮咩因素?會點揀?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-17 21:37 標題: 回覆:lpanna 的帖子
地點好唔同囉。
我不清楚VSA的情況,但RC的環境是國際學校,而中文「較」好;VSA則應該是本地環境,但英文「較」好。

作者: elmostoney 時間: 15-2-17 22:02
本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 15-2-17 22:05 編輯
VSA 的程度近年提升得很快, 越來越跟LS接軌, 壓力應是蠻大的, 不過重複抄寫的功課就很少. 我有朋友的孩子讀了幾年VSA, 最後"頂唔順", 而家轉左去英基. 功課多, 而且幾難. 好多人都補習. 其實學校不能睇表面的. VSA 的本地和國內家長非常多, 不少都很富貴. 我的朋友轉了去ESF (不是ESF的私校), 她明確感覺到家長比較中產為主, 而且student mix較國際化, 不過我不知道RC如何, 因它跟其他ESF始終是有不同的.
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-17 22:02 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
港島同新界的分別。

作者: lpanna 時間: 15-2-17 22:13
本帖最後由 lpanna 於 17-1-3 16:39 編輯
謝謝你們,其實地點於我不是問題,除了地點和家底,還有其他因素要考慮嗎?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-17 22:27 標題: 回覆:lpanna 的帖子
I see.
RC 要求有70%的學生其父母至少一方是香港居民,所以student mix會比其他ESF多一點香港人。Playground上以英語交談為主,不過學校鼓勵多元文化,所以不會restrict學生只講英語。
華人/亞洲人較重學習,所以補習風氣也盛;junior primary的學術要求聽說越來越重,功課也比以前多。
不過PYP(即小學)這階段不會有考試,只有課堂上的評估,每次派report都有驚和喜。

作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-17 22:32 標題: 回覆:Radiomama 的帖子
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/?96690
関於我仔在RC的blog, 歡迎指正和參考。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 15-2-17 22:34
回覆 Radiomama 的帖子
請問是整個小學6年,都沒有考試,只有評估嗎?
作者: lpanna 時間: 15-2-17 22:34
THX so much,你仔仔也是讀RC?請問讀那一級
作者: lpanna 時間: 15-2-17 22:40
本帖最後由 lpanna 於 17-1-3 16:40 編輯
很有心機寫
作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-17 22:43
回覆 Jane1983 的帖子
是的,小學6年均沒有考試;Classwork和評估是不斷在課堂上進行,不會通知家長。但學校會讓學生參加一些國際評估,如Year 4 & 6均會參加ISA, 作為學校及學生的bench mark.
小兒由Year 1讀到今年Year 6啦。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-2-17 22:44 標題: 引用:謝謝你們,其實地點於我不是問題,如果學校
原帖由 lpanna 於 15-02-17 發表
謝謝你們,其實地點於我不是問題,如果學校好,我地會搬近學校,除了地點和家底,還有其他因素要考慮嗎? ...
印象係,一間較本地化的國際學校,一間係行IB的本地學校。

作者: lui 時間: 15-2-17 23:15 標題: 引用:另外想問收到offer後要付40萬,那個是否deb
原帖由 lpanna 於 15-02-17 發表
另外想問收到offer後要付40萬,那個是否debenture?中途退學或小學畢業後可取回嗎?中學要再付幾十萬嗎? ...
That's nomination right so that you can have priority for interview. Non refundable.

作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-18 00:52
Thank you, 我都對RC很有興趣,我比較想找中文好些的IS
作者: smartw68 時間: 15-2-18 11:03
lpanna 發表於 15-2-17 21:09 
RC and VSA ,2間都係學繁體中文,IB課程,一條龍,學費差唔多,校舍2間都幾好,請問你地覺得2間仲有咩不同 ...
聽說VSA的工課應不會很多,好像VSA著重思考討論,同埋不會太push,不知是否頁的?
作者: Jane1983 時間: 15-2-18 11:20
回覆 smartw68 的帖子
功課量的多或少,辛吾辛苦,或者谷吾谷,係相對的概念。聽用家講,VSA的功課係好合理,並吾算多。同local school比,更是無得比了。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 15-2-18 11:23
有時聽小朋友讀local名小的家長講,細路日日咁樣扭計、發孟憎,搞足2、3個鐘,先叫完成功課和默書...一家人都辛苦
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-2-18 16:22 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
我囡的同學的媽咪將個大仔轉了去RC, 因為覺得本身的IS太hea.... 佢好滿意RC, 話因為好多是本地小學插班生,所以感覺讀書氣氛好d同d小朋友會有鬥心d …

作者: 楠爸爸 時間: 15-2-18 16:52
Rc的老師會否hea教?有冇心教學生?因聽過有d IS會hea教,尤其中文
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 15-2-18 17:27 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
個人認為不要期待可以從一間IS學校學到LS水準的或近似水準的中文。記得之前去RC school tour,招生主任已經明確說過。RC同樣每天一節中文課,同其他IS不同之處只有繁體字教學。而普遍認為的RC中文程度較高,是因為學校本身中國學生占了大部分

作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-18 17:51 標題: 回覆:楠爸爸 的帖子
我仔算好彩,在RC遇過不同的class teachers, 他們都是教學認真的老師,算是滿意。不過有朋友説,小學的老師比較軽鬆、中學的老師更加有要求。
至於中文呢,曾經有位中文老師教學不認真,家長們怨聲載道,最後終於離校,大家鼓掌。

作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 15-2-18 22:26
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 22:28 編輯
luckyveronique 發表於 15-2-18 17:27 
個人認為不要期待可以從一間IS學校學到LS水準的或近似水準的中文。記得之前去RC school tour,招生主任已經 ...
I actually find your rationale quite interesting. A school harder to get in = better school? A school with more Chinese students would give them better Chinese standard? Personally, I think we need to be fair and appreciate also the effort entered by the teachers and students. All local schools with pure Chinese and their Chinese standard are all equally strong!?! Lets take SJS as an example, they have a lot more Chinese students than other ESF schools but are their Chinese 'naturally' better than other foundation schools? Also, since you are not yet a SJS parents, I think you better check how many Chinese lesson hours they have every week first (in Year 1).
A few years ago, me and some of my friends gave up SJS for RC. We didn't think which school was better than the other (We still don't) but just our (me and my kids) feeling and believe about the school. We like the more spacious / IT environment and the parents mix. One other thing we appreciate more was that RC had been hiring IB trained teachers rather than transforming them into IB teachers. I am definitely not saying RC is better than any other schools and certainly, there are still lots of room for improvement but I think what is more important is that the school is willing to work with the parents to make it a better one. Trust me, when I gave up SJS, a lot of people would say this and that to me but honestly, I didn't need anyone to support my decision
. I can tell you to this day, I don't regret it
To page owner, I don't know much about VSA as I live in the NT. But I do think it is a very good school just by looking at their recent IB results. Good luck choosing the right school for your kid
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 15-2-18 23:18 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+CSJ安樂窩+於+15-2-18+22:28+
原帖由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-02-18 發表
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 22:28 編輯
A school harder to get in = better school? 對不起,我從沒發表過類似觀點。祝賀你為自己的孩子找到了好的學校。

作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 15-2-18 23:31 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+CSJ安樂窩+於+15-02-18+發表
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 23:37 編輯
原帖由 luckyveronique 於 15-02-18 發表
A school harder to get in = better school? 對不起,我從沒發表過類似觀點。祝賀你為自己的孩子找到了好 ...
I am not trying to argue but just trying to give interested parents a view from an existing parent
Again, there is no best school but best fit one for your child. I am sure yours will be in good hands too. Happy New Year 

作者: luckyveronique 時間: 15-2-18 23:55 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+CSJ安樂窩+於+15-2-18+23:37+
原帖由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-02-18 發表
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-18 23:37 編輯
謝謝用家的建議。實際上小女也有幸得到了SJS同RC的offer,很快也要做選擇。如果我認為RC不好,就不會花錢去面試了。只是我選擇學校不是以中文來衡量,因為畢竟讀的國際學校,已有心理準備中文會差一些。我看得更多的是畢業成績和大學去向,所教授的課程,校風,師資等等。校舍和是否就腳我也是放在次要考慮的因素。總之,適合自己的學校才是最好的學校。祝羊年大吉

作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-19 16:37
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:08 編輯
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文
大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)
給你個建議, 你去放學, 用英文去扮問路
你看看VSA 學生講什麼英文
CDNIS, SIS ,VSA 三間拍埋一齊, 你便發覺
讀VSA 似中了伏
附近有三間國際學校, 更清楚
那裡成日塞車, 有司機的父母不少
VSA 想積極轉型, 做一間高檔的國際學校
可惜難
可惜各方面環境都不似配合到
正常DP1校內預計 24分, 會叫你 讀IB CERT
學校SET 26分左右, 不准你讀IB DP, 叫你DROP一科
要讀IB CERT, 學生被玩死, 另外IB TOK/EE 0分的學生比其他學校高
SUPERVISOR 試過最後一星期, 先話佢篇EE 有問題
TOPIC 有問題, 最後一星期先講?
好多學生TOK/EE 最後1分...都無, 即0分
TOK 再重做!
不少 TOK/EE 0分 印證了我的說話
盤數做得好, 入面恐佈
我由學生角度出發
RC 第一屇IB 我一路跟到而家
觀察了變化
如果真係VSA, 與 RC 2間, 唔駛講RC
SJS RC 2間 則選SJS
RC 在其他ESF 搶老師
RC 老師人工較其他英基老師高1成左右
RC 搶到好老師
我較祟尚science, 較喜歡igcse 制度, 所以會選sjs
RC 行MYP , 數學書遠不夠SHATIN COLLEGE深
打開2本數學書, 你便知
SHATIN COLLEGE SET 1,2 maths 已經用緊OXFORD 出的
alevel 書 教year 10
觀察一間學校, 你緊係看最後2年考大學
除非目標不是考大學
在爭論頭幾年無謂
VSA 而家似當年RC 第一屇IB 考生
RC 進步算很快,
原因, 我有一些朋友, 在英國回流返港
仔女突然急找國際學校
仔女, 一報名, 很快收到RC 面試, 及入去
入面RC , 朋友NICE , 佢群外國人玩
你行入去VSA, 看看多少鬼佬鬼妹同學?
再看看, 出來學生, 是否講英文?
我仲記得當年RC 第一屇(LANG B 英文極多人報), 真係嚇死父母
我當年力勸朋友不要入RC
而家都幾年, 進步算多, 我見RC 講英文能力強了很多
我現在覺得RC 是一間可以接受的國際學校
YEAR 10 前 的東西不能作準
因為返學, 混混沌沌 又一天
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-19 17:07 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+HIHinsurance+於+15-2-19+16:5
原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:04 編輯
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文
雖然很直接,but really fair comments, thanks. 但如果想中文有個平衡(和SJS比較),選RC也不錯吧?

作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-19 17:28
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:56 編輯
964000 發表於 15-2-19 17:07 
雖然很直接,but really fair comments, thanks. 但如果想中文有個平衡(和SJS比較),選RC也不錯吧?
...
你中文的平衡是如何?
一般來說,SJS,RC 都講到中文, 但寫都OK. 我們以前的中一程度,當佢地去到LAST YEAR 時
睇報紙就困難了,SJS長大後
RC 中文好好多, 但要去挑戰IB LANG A CHINESE , 我建議三思
因為對手是全球華人
何必強行要仔女LANG A CHINESE
你仔女有冇條件挑戰內地人考中文?
中文三文兩語, 講到 國語, 同 廣東話
就收貨, 英文, 則應該要求要求高
俾咁多錢去國際學校, 都係想學英文
返學講中文, 則 倒錢落海無分別
所以我講,耀中, 是其中一間倒錢落海的學校
一間國際學校, 有幾國際, 看英文成績, 就知道1,2
可能同得外國人玩多, 份人對中國是沒有多少感情
15歲時在RC 讀緊書, 玩CLIFF DIVING , 同外國同學玩多
玩完, 佢擺上WHATS APP 相頭, 我才知
我再講, RC 學生, 不少九龍塘做PART TIME 賣衫
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-19 17:55 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+HIHinsurance+於+15-2-19+17:3
原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:32 編輯
我希望中文水平可以看下報紙,明周,一般discussion forum看寫,便收貨,起碼不會太「離地」,人地講笑佢都吾識笑。中國文化,老實講,我不特別投入,如果鐘意的,用鬼佬角度去欣賞也可。

作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-19 18:02
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 18:06 編輯
964000 發表於 15-2-19 17:55 
我希望中文水平可以看下報紙,明周,一般discussion forum看寫,便收貨,起碼不會太「離地」,人地講笑佢都 ...
如果要睇到報紙, 你額外請老師私人補中文, 只教睇報紙
我舉個例, 好多家長, 都係讀lang b 中文 HL/SL
但一些學校都用我地以前的中二, 三書教(啟思中二, 三中文教IB HL LANG B CHINESE )
VSA 睇中文報紙無問題
最好親身,一星期, 望望佢地等巴士
講咩話題
72 個架巴士站, VSA學生愛搭車落CWB STARBUCKS
大把國際學校學生
題外話, RC 一年大概都有2,3 件女拔, 跳到RC
所以你個RC IB 分數,唔好咁開心,因為極可能某些精英入來....
作者: lpanna 時間: 15-2-21 00:02
HIHinsurance 發表於 15-2-19 16:37 
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文
大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)
thx so much, very useful opinion
作者: misskwokwok 時間: 15-2-21 12:58 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+HIHinsurance+於+15-2-19+18:0
原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 18:06 編輯
如無錯的話,剛剛在RCHK IB攞45分的學生在RCHK由細讀上,算係RCHK湊大的。其他側不太清楚。

作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-21 14:19 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+HIHinsurance+於+15-02-19+發
原帖由 misskwokwok 於 15-02-21 發表
如無錯的話,剛剛在RCHK IB攞45分的學生在RCHK由細讀上,算係RCHK湊大的。其他側不太清楚。
...
Yes, I heard she is an Indian, not Chinese.

作者: Lamk2 時間: 15-2-22 00:23 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
Does it matter Chinese or not? An international school should hv good mix of students. It really depends on the student herself or himself, how much effort she/ he put into and how's the school teaching standard.

作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 15-2-22 21:14
本帖最後由 CSJ安樂窩 於 15-2-22 21:20 編輯
Lamk2 發表於 15-2-22 00:23 
Does it matter Chinese or not? An international school should hv good mix of students. It really dep ...
I think you have misunderstood why the parents mentioned it was an Indian gal who got full score last year in RC. They were referring to HIHinsurance's comment on this-->"題外話, RC 一年大概都有2,3 件女拔, 跳到RC, 所以你個RC IB 分數,唔好咁開心,因為極可能某些精英入來". They were just trying to point out that the top student in RC last year was a home grown gal.
HiHinsurance, I think your comments on RC were fair but I would like to add your comment:
1) Not all local students at RC are required to do Chinese A. I know for a fact that a local kid who joined RC at Year 7 from a local elite school, he will not be doing Chinese at all for his IBDP and a few others are doing Chinese B instead.
2) I think most IS do intake some local school kids at higher forms, RC is not alone.
3) (this need to be confirmed) When I took my kid for SJS interview a few years back, I did ask them if doing PYP but not follow up by MYP is better or not. I was told then that I shouldn't need to worry at all as SC was working on getting accreditation on MYP. This is only hearsay but please, share with your inside knowledge.
4) (This is personal believe) I don't think the first 10 years are not important. In fact, those years are very important in terms of building up their 'way of thinking' which could be very important when they come to deal with IBDP.
作者: pppwong 時間: 15-2-23 18:40 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+CSJ安樂窩+於+15-02-18+發表
原帖由 luckyveronique 於 15-02-18 發表
謝謝用家的建議。實際上小女也有幸得到了SJS同RC的offer,很快也要做選擇。如果我認為RC不好,就不會花錢去 ...
Do you mind sharing how your kid's English is trained? Both my husband and I speak English to my boy but as the grandparents speak Cantonese to him on a daily basis, I'm still identifying ways to escalate his English. Any views?

作者: misskwokwok 時間: 15-2-23 20:22 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+misskwokwok+於+15-02-21+發
原帖由 964000 於 15-02-21 發表
Yes, I heard she is an Indian, not Chinese.
No, is 100% HK family

作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 15-2-23 21:57 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+964000+於+15-02-21+發表Yes,
原帖由 misskwokwok 於 15-02-23 發表
No, is 100% HK family

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作者: Artie 時間: 15-2-24 02:55
本帖最後由 Artie 於 15-2-24 03:02 編輯
The RCHK discussions in EK are really interesting.(1) The girl is indian.
(2) My son is in Year 11 and his Math class is doing partly DP Math SL materials. If that is still considered easy, then I do not know what to say.
There seems to be quite some false information of RCHK here.
Some people seem to enjoy putting them up here.
And some other seem to enjoy reading them.
作者: jemima 時間: 15-2-24 18:16 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
Want to seek some opinion too. My boy is currently in victoria kindie. And we also received esf offer.
We are just a local family, and we want our kid to have a less stressful childhood (That's why we aim iB/ international). We hope he can have a good command of English and we are trying our best to provide support, at the same time we hope to have an acceptable level of chinese. Shall I stay in Vic for potential priority to enter VSA (150/~700 Vic graduates) or change to ESf for an interview priority and thus a perceived privilege to enter eSF primary or RC? Thanks for the advice!!

作者: kingkongdaddy 時間: 15-2-25 02:46
在我印象中,VSA不屬於國際學校,她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否就是VSA ?
Correct me if I am wrong!
作者: mamaishere 時間: 15-2-25 08:21 標題: 引用:[size=10.5pt]在我印象中,VSA[size=10.5pt
原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-02-25 發表
在我印象中,VSA不屬於國際學校,她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否 ...
totally right!

作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-2-25 08:59 標題: 引用:[size=10.5pt]在我印象中,VSA[size=10.5pt
原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-02-25 發表
在我印象中,VSA不屬於國際學校,她只是一間行一條龍IB的英語學校。
在EK小學一覽那間滬江維多利亞學校是否 ...
Both RC and VSA are private independent schools, not international schools.

作者: WinTee 時間: 15-2-25 09:17 標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+kingkongdaddy+於+15-02-25+
原帖由 poonseelai 於 15-02-25 發表
Both RC and VSA are private independent schools, not international schools.
Yes
Both are private independent schools

作者: nintendo 時間: 15-2-25 10:31
Being a private independent school is a financial arrangement.
Government grant the use of land and lend/grant money to build the school.
If I remember it right, DC, ICS and ISF are also PIS.
In any case, "private independent schools" and "international schools" are not necessarily mutually exclusive,
作者: slamai 時間: 15-2-25 11:35
本帖最後由 slamai 於 15-2-25 11:40 編輯
回覆 jemima 的帖子
ESF (excluding PIS) primary: better English, less homework, more expat children
VSA primary: better Chinese and Maths, more homework, mostly (local) Chinese students
ESF PIS schools are more similar to VSA. They are all IB PYP schools. It's a matter of individual choice.
作者: georginia 時間: 15-2-25 19:29
我有朋友由RCHK畢業亦都有朋友由VSA轉校。有啲人話VSA只是掛名既國際學校,我朋友讀得唔太開心,最後同佢妹妹轉咗過去耀中
作者: linus仔 時間: 15-2-25 19:40 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
For private independent schools which land is granted by government, there is a requirement that the school must take at least 70% of local students. So in term of student mix, VSA and RC are not international schools

作者: bbdmami 時間: 15-2-26 22:02 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
I once have checked the admission requirements of an overseas university, and wrt English language requirement for students coming from an international school, I've found the below:
2. Council of international schools
Your school must be an accredited member of the Council of International Schools.
You must have studied at a school that meets the above criteria for four years and be completing the senior or Grade 12 level (non-ESL).
And this is the link to this council where certified members in HK can be found.
http://www.cois.org
I think this is an indicator of an international school.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-2-26 22:33 標題: 引用:I+once+have+checked+the+admission+requir
原帖由 bbdmami 於 15-02-26 發表
I once have checked the admission requirements of an overseas university, and wrt English language r ...
唉,何謂國際學校每人定義唔同,有家長認為只有教育局名下定義為國際學校的才是,RC和VSA等PlS雖然用國際課程,有家長亦不會打它們列為國際學校

作者: Lamk2 時間: 15-2-26 23:37 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
I don't know about VSA. For RC, I can only say my elder one loves the school so much and we just accepted the P1 offer from RC where I gave up KJS (tough decision).
RC is a very new school, but I can see they are catching up so well. I mean academically. I know there are few students got offer from GSIS and CIS recently for secondary where they studied in RC since Y1.

作者: Lamk2 時間: 15-2-26 23:39 標題: 回覆:RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多,大家有其他意見可參考嗎?
Oops... I mean we just accepted the P1 offer from RC for my younger one.

作者: kingkongdaddy 時間: 15-3-8 02:21
請問RC家長,學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-3-8 09:39 標題: 回覆:kingkongdaddy 的帖子
RC 的group 1只有English A or Chinese A; 而group 2 就只有Chinese B or Spanish B;
所以只有Group 1 讀English A & Chinese A>考Bilingual , or English A + Chinese B;
又或Group 1 考自修Japanese A / Spanish A/ Hindu A囉。

作者: nintendo 時間: 15-3-8 13:34
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 13:35 編輯
poonseelai 發表於 15-2-26 22:33 
唉,何謂國際學校每人定義唔同,有家長認為只有教育局名下定義為國際學校的才是,RC和VSA等PlS雖然用國際課 ...
To be honest, it does not matter what "parents" want to believe. I would look at what universities consider.
As far as I know, schools like ISF and RCHK are considered "schools taught in english medium". Their students do not need to write IELTS or TOEFL (for students that have been studying in such schools for 4 years ---- number of years varies depending on university). I personally have friends with children in IBDP in these schools so I can only say so for these 2 schools. Not sure about other schools like VSA. More, these schools offer "non-local" curriculum and that is what make them "non-local". Whether a school is truly international, well, different parents can have their own views. My kids are at STC and so many non-STC friends have raised that there are so many ethnic chinese, it does not seem to be an international school. Similar comments for KGV, but just that they have more indians instead. I think I will let people think what they want, because what they want to believe does not affect the chance of my children entering top universities. So whatever.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-8 13:44 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+nintendo+於+15-3-8+13:35+編
原帖由 nintendo 於 15-03-08 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 13:35 編輯
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A HL to provide IELTS as well.

作者: nintendo 時間: 15-3-8 13:56
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 14:02 編輯
poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44 
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...
Students for 2015 must achieve at least ONE of the following to be considered for admission to HKU. Other proof of English proficiency (for example, GCE A-level English Language) will be considered on individual merit basis.
International examinations:
- Grade C or better in English Language at GCSE / GCEO
- Grade C or better in English First Language at IGCSE
- Grade B or better in English Second Language at IGCSE
- An overall band of 6.5 or better in Academic IELTS
- A score of 550 or better in the paper-based TOEFL (213 for computer-based, 80 for internet-based) [Note: TOEFL ITP test is not accepted for satisfying the English Language Requirement]
- Subscores of 550 or better in Critical Reading and 550 or better in Writing in SAT in the same attempt
- Grade 4 or better in the Higher Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
grade 5 or better in the Standard Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language (A1 or A2 Syllabus); or
grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Language and Literature; or
grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Literature; or
grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Text and Performance; or
grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Literature and Performance (A1 syllabus) at International Baccalaureate
Looks like IB English is one of the qualifications that satisfy the minimum requirement.
Anyway, my point was not to discuss how widely acceptable IB English is (although it may be your concerns). I merely wanted to point out, schools like ISF, VSA, RC are generally considered by universities to be in par with ESF, HKIS, etc when it comes to whether it is an international schools.
Again, individual parents are of course entitled to what they want to believe.
作者: kingkongdaddy 時間: 15-3-9 17:44
回覆 Radiomama 的帖子
RC跟其他ESF 中學都是規定學生考IB English first language 即English A ,可以這樣說,該校的英語水評照理應該是好的。我認識一位VSA家長說VSA 他兒子選English second language 即English B,學校是否沒有考English A 的規定?
作者: Artie 時間: 15-3-9 17:57
poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44 
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...
This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply to?
What was his English A HL score?
What did HKU ask for his IELTS?
作者: Artie 時間: 15-3-9 18:01
kingkongdaddy 發表於 15-3-8 02:21 
請問RC家長,學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ?
RC does not offer English B. So everyone has to take English A, which is considered first language level curriculum.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-9 18:11 標題: 引用:Quote:poonseelai+發表於+15-3-8+13:44+Req
原帖由 Artie 於 15-03-09 發表
This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply ...
Can find out more from the school.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-9 18:18 標題: 引用:回覆+Radiomama+的帖子 RC跟其他ESF+中學
原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-03-09 發表
回覆 Radiomama 的帖子
RC跟其他ESF 中學都是規定學生考IB English first language 即English A ,可以這 ...
VSA 無規定考ENG A, 可考B HL,但中文B只有HL,我見RC有學生考中文B SL. 其實每間學校要求不同,目的都是按學生興趣和能力入讀心儀大學和學科。

作者: jemima 時間: 15-3-9 19:06 標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+HIHinsurance+於+15-2-19+17:0
原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:08 編輯
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文
請問知道有幾多%學生只考 cert 嗎? they omit this info in their web

作者: kingkongdaddy 時間: 15-3-9 19:55
如果單憑學校規定IB 英文選修方面估計,RC一定要Eng A 但 VSA 沒有此規定,這樣推算,英文方面RC比較優勝。
輪中文方面,VSA沒有offer Chinese B (SL) ,所有學生只可選Chinese A 或 B (HL),那麼推算 VSA的中文教學比RC好!
樓主可藉此點作一個參考!
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-9 20:52
kingkongdaddy 發表於 15-3-9 19:55 
如果單憑學校規定IB 英文選修方面估計,RC一定要Eng A 但 VSA 沒有此規定,這樣推算,英文方面RC比較優勝。 ...
Sorry, VSA does offer Chinese B SL. This is for those students who genuinely need it and subject to the discretion of the Diploma Coordinator and Chinese Head of Department. In 2014, less than 5 students took Chinese B SL.
作者: minirat 時間: 15-3-16 15:32
HIHinsurance 發表於 15-2-19 16:37 
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文
大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)
謝謝分享,獲益不少!
“CDNIS, SIS ,VSA 三間拍埋一齊, 你便發覺
讀VSA 似中了伏“
我想問這句是否指英文程度?
作者: poonseelai 時間: 15-3-19 13:37
Artie 發表於 15-3-9 17:57 
This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply ...
The student applies for HKU Business.
作者: Artie 時間: 15-3-23 15:56
poonseelai 發表於 15-3-19 13:37 
The student applies for HKU Business.
It is really hard to say why that happened.
It is clearly stated in the official page that English A is a proof of English proficiency.
And indeed, most students do not need to submit IELTS results. You can probably confirm this with the university placement officer at your school.
I can only suspect that this is only a special case. Most HKU and CUHK offers are conditional offers. May be this student got his offer with the condition stating that he has to have a final grades of at least a 5 in English A, but in the end, the student got only a 4. And thus the student was asked to provide something extra to proof his english proficiency.
This is just my speculation.
作者: ruth_esther 時間: 15-3-24 00:16 標題: 回覆:Lamk2 的帖子
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作者: Ruth0329 時間: 15-3-25 00:23 標題: 引用:........+me+too,+I+ve+given+up+offer+fro
原帖由 ruth_esther 於 15-03-24 發表
........ me too, I ve given up offer from other ESF foundation school (secondary school)...My kids ...
I have read one of your threads about an option to switch to IGCSE or staying at RC for MYP. Glad that you made your decision finally! Would you please continue to share more? Your stay must have balanced the pros and cons. Btw, any seat available at KGV? How many percentage of current student would opt for a switch to IGCSE? thanks!
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