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作者: 88violin 時間: 14-12-3 10:19 標題: 小朋友適合學咩樂器?其實有冇樣睇得出?

大家又點諗?
比喻常聽到;手大,手指長適合彈琴?
那麼...管樂? 弦樂? 敲擊樂? 指揮?
需要具備什麼條件才能最適合學?
其實有冇樣睇得出?

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-3 10:31

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作者: aeiou_drm 時間: 14-12-3 19:53 標題: 引用：Definitely!++For+example,+students+with+

原帖由 Oboe_FRSM 於 14-12-03 發表
Definitely! For example, students with thick lips should not play oboe, trumpet or horn, and studen ...

Could u pls share the reason that thick lips are not suitable to learn horn, trumpet, trombone? Thx

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-3 21:42 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Oboe_FRSM+於+14-12-03+發表D

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作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 08:54 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+Oboe_FRSM+於+14-12-3+22:16+

原帖由 Oboe_FRSM 於 14-12-03 發表
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Yes, trombone mouthpiece is very big, really like a cup

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I find most of children trombone players are rather plump, while children horn and trumpet are rather slim... Maybe an coincidence.

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 09:01 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Oboe_FRSM+於+14-12-03+發表D

原帖由 aeiou_drm 於 14-12-03 發表
Could u pls share the reason that thick lips are not suitable to learn horn, trumpet, trombone? Th ...

Horn is rather difficult, compared to trumpet. Horn has widest range so it plays low to high. Buzzing top note in horn is a little difficult than in trumpet. Besides lips, genetic shape of jaw is a bit important. Southern Chinese is rather having inward lower jaw, and northern Chinese is having outward lower jaw. Inward lower jaw fit horn mouthpiece better(trumpet and trombone don't have such advantages as they play horizontally)

作者: 88violin 時間: 14-12-4 09:17

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長笛是否適合所有小朋友學呢?聽過識吹Obeo,就容易吹Clarinet?
但識吹Clarinet,是否也會易上手Obeo?
是否要換晒牙先學Obeo/Clarinet?

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-4 09:26

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作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 09:41 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+Oboe_FRSM+於+14-12-4+09:32+

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Thanks for your feedback. Actually even the worst biological features, if ppl is diligent enough, one can overcome it. Nowadays, there are wide range of mouthpiece that can fit different types of people, thick or thin lips, more "air" or less, jaw shape. So, the biological features maybe a plus, more important is passion and diligence

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 09:47 標題: 引用：回覆+Oboe_FRSM+的帖子長笛是否適合所有

原帖由 88violin 於 14-12-04 發表
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長笛是否適合所有小朋友學呢?聽過識吹Obeo,就容易吹Clarinet?

I can only answer flute. Let oboe_frm answer you the oboe clarinet.

If the fingers are short, like me, it is difficult to play flute. And jaw shape also matters, like me, I can hardly play high notes in flute. But I probably the worst creature to play flute yet I still play well. All flute learners can play better than me

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-4 09:50 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Oboe_FRSM+於+14-12-04+發表

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作者: 88violin 時間: 14-12-4 09:52

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純粹自己想多了解多D其它樂器,體操選手都有樣睇適合學咩運動項目,
音樂咁多樣樂器,我估都有樣睇.

但要學大/重型學器,Cello/Double bass/Tuba...,
我估自己都要好體力,先拎到D樂器周圍走

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-4 09:55 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+88violin+於+14-12-4+09:53+編

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作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 09:55 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+88violin+於+14-12-4+09:53+編

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Mummy does

作者: stinkyrabbit111 時間: 14-12-4 10:19

以我囡個樣同性格完全睇唔出佢學到任何樂器，因為由bb開始到而家都無時停，企唔定，坐唔定

作者: steamball 時間: 14-12-4 11:47

stinkyrabbit111 發表於 14-12-4 10:19
以我囡個樣同性格完全睇唔出佢學到任何樂器，因為由bb開始到而家都無時停，企唔定，坐唔定 ...

i feel u r talking mine................................so headache

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thanks for your detailed explanation.

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作者: stinkyrabbit111 時間: 14-12-4 15:06

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Oboe_FRSM 發表於 14-12-4 14:20
Another important consideration is the child's personality. Certain personalities lend themselves t ...

Can you eleborate more on this please？

作者: bobocatty 時間: 14-12-4 15:17

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Hi ,

May I know which musical instruments are relative easier to learn?
My son needs to choose a musical instrument to learn when he goes to primary 1 in next year.

Thanks.

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作者: stinkyrabbit111 時間: 14-12-4 15:35

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Ic, thank you! No wonder my daughter wants to be violin 1, she is outgoing and talks a lot haha

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作者: Cello093 時間: 14-12-4 16:53

Oboe_FRSM 發表於 14-12-4 15:26
For example, a shy kid would be more suited to viola or bassoon (which play mostly supporting roles) ...

Double Bass's role in school orchestra is more supporting and subtle.

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 19:56 標題: 引用：回覆+Oboe_FRSM+的帖子 Ic,+thank+you!+No

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Ic, thank you! No wonder my daughter wants to be violin 1, she is outgoing an ...

She will love trombone. It is very outstanding in shape and gesture

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原帖由 Oboe_FRSM 於 14-12-04 發表
Yes that explains why. However, in an orchestra (or string ensemble), there are many violinists pla ...

Agree. Basically there are only a few wind players per instrument. Sometimes, they splits into I and II themselves. Most of them play solo in the piece

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-4 19:59 標題: 引用：回覆+stinkyrabbit111+的帖子 Hi+,May+I+k

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Hi ,

Viola

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-6 09:55

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作者: Queenielam88 時間: 14-12-6 17:52 標題: 回覆：Oboe_FRSM 的帖子

你們對敲擊樂有咩睇法，因好少聽人談及該等樂器！我覺得敲擊樂應該適合一些好動的小朋友及此等樂器比較其他應易上手得多。

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原帖由 Oboe_FRSM 於 14-12-06 發表
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Another important consideration is regarding musical s ...

The reason that clarinet is so popular because it is so handy to carry as flute

. And it is as inexpensive as flute too. In hk, many factors are coming from the ease of parents. I absolutely agree with u, musical style plays nothing in consideration

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-6 21:07 標題: 引用：你們對敲擊樂有咩睇法，因好少聽人談及該等

原帖由 Queenielam88 於 14-12-06 發表
你們對敲擊樂有咩睇法，因好少聽人談及該等樂器！我覺得敲擊樂應該適合一些好動的小朋友及此等樂器比較其他 ...

我不熟這類。但我有些分享。我朋友小朋友學了3年敲擊，入了2年敲擊樂團，豈料2年都是搖「沙沙」。到了第4年，實在太悶，改學其他有音律的樂器。我覺得是老師和指揮的問題，怎會要一個天真愛玩的小朋友搖三年「沙沙」？

作者: Queenielam88 時間: 14-12-6 21:16 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Queenielam88+於+14-12-06+發

原帖由 786 於 14-12-06 發表
我不熟這類。但我有些分享。我朋友小朋友學了3年敲擊，入了2年敲擊樂團，豈料2年都是搖「沙沙」。到了第4年 ...

搖足三年沙沙又真係幾歎頂喎！可能佢學校樂團規模比較細卦，如學敲擊主要係要學木琴或馬林巴琴及打小鼓之類！而有規模的敲擊樂團應該有好多不同的敲擊樂器玩！

作者: 786 時間: 14-12-6 21:24 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+786+於+14-12-06+發表我不熟

原帖由 Queenielam88 於 14-12-06 發表
搖足三年沙沙又真係幾歎頂喎！可能佢學校樂團規模比較細卦，如學敲擊主要係要學木琴或馬林巴琴及打小鼓之類 ...

個問題在於d外判商根本無心更進小朋友，如果佢地留心，就為小朋友轉下其他啦。可能外判商自己老師都成日轉唔知。不過家長也應該向外判商反映，因為無人比家長更跟得小朋友足的。

作者: Oboe_FRSM 時間: 14-12-6 22:01 標題: 引用：你們對敲擊樂有咩睇法，因好少聽人談及該等

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