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作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-21 06:24 標題: 初小派試卷老師遂一說出學生的分數

新手初小爸覺得似乎有點 ...

可否分享一下？謝謝！

作者: feiji 時間: 14-11-21 07:22 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

咁刺激？

作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 14-11-21 07:45

我小朋友部分老師會講高分既名,部分老師咩都唔講,

唔會遂一宣佈分數.

作者: kayi0556 時間: 14-11-21 07:57

我諗係個別老師，我囡話有d老師唔講名次，有d老師講頭3

作者: a_for_apple 時間: 14-11-21 08:15 標題: 回覆：初小派試卷老師遂一說出學生的分數

我相信大部分只讀高分嗰幾個

作者: Yanamami 時間: 14-11-21 08:20

通常只會讀出最高分果幾個，而且唔會開名，只講分數。

作者: Bigpig_2007 時間: 14-11-21 08:20 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

如果真的逐一講，一定要跟老師問個明白。這對某些學生是太剌激，可能有反效果。

作者: joyce919 時間: 14-11-21 08:49

唔同老師唔同做法，我地會用學號報分數，有D老師只講高分嗰D，有D講晒全部，但唔會開名，當然心緒清嘅同學都會match到乜no係邊一個同學。

作者: bb20040225 時間: 14-11-21 09:13 標題: 回覆：初小派試卷老師遂一說出學生的分數

未試過，亞囡話通常講最高分邊幾位，幾多唔合格(但唔會講名)

作者: longlokma 時間: 14-11-21 09:38 標題: 引用：新手初小爸覺得似乎有點+... 可否分享一下

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新手初小爸覺得似乎有點 ...

可否分享一下？謝謝！

吓……？老師新入行？！

作者: gigayan 時間: 14-11-21 11:15

我小朋友學校老師直頭派卷前同小朋友講 : 唔可以將自己既分數講俾其他人聽..... 所以我打俾佢, 佢就唔講, 要我返屋企睇

作者: machuchu 時間: 14-11-21 11:23 標題: 引用：我小朋友學校老師直頭派卷前同小朋友講+:+

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我小朋友學校老師直頭派卷前同小朋友講 : 唔可以將自己既分數講俾其他人聽..... 所以我打俾佢, 佢就唔講, ...

小朋友好聽話。

作者: longlokma 時間: 14-11-21 11:37 標題: 引用：我小朋友學校老師直頭派卷前同小朋友講+:+

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我小朋友學校老師直頭派卷前同小朋友講 : 唔可以將自己既分數講俾其他人聽..... 所以我打俾佢, 佢就唔講, ...

你最好同小朋友解釋下，盲目地服從不是好事……

作者: gigayan 時間: 14-11-21 13:44

longlokma 發表於 14-11-21 11:37
你最好同小朋友解釋下，盲目地服從不是好事……

放心, 佢只係搞下氣氛玩下嘢, 我係電話問佢分數, 佢係笑住話: 老師話唔講得呀, 你返屋企睇喇, 最終當然有講喇

佢平時肯認真聽下老師話, 我真係要感恩

作者: tabodaisy 時間: 14-11-21 15:06

作者: KimB 時間: 14-11-21 15:43

一般只講高分嗰幾個

作者: CACACAROL 時間: 14-11-21 16:16

好大壓力

作者: luvgaga 時間: 14-11-21 19:58

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我地只講最高分果幾個

作者: hadwinboy 時間: 14-11-21 20:17 標題: 引用：新手初小爸覺得似乎有點+... 可否分享一下

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新手初小爸覺得似乎有點 ...

可否分享一下？謝謝！

是個別老師還是學校政策?

作者: hadwinboy 時間: 14-11-21 20:18 標題: 引用：新手初小爸覺得似乎有點+... 可否分享一下

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新手初小爸覺得似乎有點 ...

可否分享一下？謝謝！

是個別老師還是學校政策?

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-21 22:35

Indeed, I don't mind. In fact, when I was a kid studying in primary school, all students were required to say our marks loudly individually during the class so the teachers could check the marks they put in the record sheet were correct. We all knew the marks of each other.

作者: kenwong888 時間: 14-11-21 22:48

marble2004 發表於 14-11-21 22:35
Indeed, I don't mind. In fact, when I was a kid studying in primary school, all students were requi ...

Exactly true!
Me too!

作者: kenwong888 時間: 14-11-22 10:34

When I was primary students, teachers also asked us to record the class exam marks for them!

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 10:51 標題: 回覆：hadwinboy 的帖子

這個我要打聽一下。前者還比較容易處理，若後者就 ...

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 11:03 標題: 回覆：marble2004 的帖子

Glad to know you don't mind! Do you mind sharing, and I ask sincerely, have you ever scored marks which are relatively 'low'? In your experience, did you feel ashamed in or out of the class of such marks?

Thanks for sharing.

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 11:06 標題: 回覆：kenwong888 的帖子

You might want to share your experience as well. Thanks.

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 11:08 標題: 回覆：初小派試卷老師遂一說出學生的分數

暫時所見，似乎我遇到的，在學校中並不普遍。那麼在補習社的情況又如何？多謝分享！

作者: 洋蔥頭媽咪 時間: 14-11-22 14:12 標題: 引用：新手初小爸覺得似乎有點+... 可否分享一下

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新手初小爸覺得似乎有點 ...

可否分享一下？謝謝！

我囝老師只會講幾個高分嘅，其他唔會講，如果全開名開分數對小朋友唔係太好，亦好打擊自信，我覺得老師咁様做不合理，好影響小朋友，比著我一定會同老師反映意見。

作者: jumbojet 時間: 14-11-22 17:29

When I was in primary schools some teachers read the marks of whole class from highest to lowest. Kids don't seems to mind back then and also parents don't mind. Our parents don't even have time to check out homework! Maybe kids these days are smarter and will be comparing among themselves? Usually just envy those who have Frozen school bags not high marks.

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 18:56 標題: 回覆：洋蔥頭媽咪的帖子

認同，也正考慮跟老師談一談，不過要先組織一下思路。

作者: kenwong888 時間: 14-11-22 18:58

noplanner 發表於 14-11-22 11:06
You might want to share your experience as well. Thanks.

I didn't mind this arrangement because the teachers seldom emphasize on the scores!

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 19:11 標題: 回覆：jumbojet 的帖子

School bags

The sad thing is, I saw quiet tears in his eyes! Apparently, he minds even he don't know whether we do.

I am not sure whether such action of the teacher would serve any positive purposes?! In a way, I don't know how she 'made' my kid mind!

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-22 19:31 標題: 回覆：kenwong888 的帖子

So students only served as administrative assistants, but not marks-boosting assistants, to teachers.

作者: kenwong888 時間: 14-11-22 20:56

noplanner 發表於 14-11-22 19:31
So students only served as administrative assistants, but not marks-boosting assistants, to ...

Exactly true!

作者: jumbojet 時間: 14-11-22 22:14

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Oh he minds, in a way that's good. At least he is not with a can't be bothered attitude.Instead of talking to teacher why not work harder to achieve higher score? Is he already trying his best? If he is already, then maybe discussing with teacher will be a good idea.

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-22 22:30

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Except for Maths, the result of my other subjects were pretty good. Frankly speaking, of course, I would lower down my voice a bit when I had to say out the marks on Maths subject. I think it's natural. It's also a driving force for me to work harder on that subject. I really re-do all questions in the textbook before I went for the exam. I would also feel ashamed if marks were not good. But no harm. we need to face failures in order to build up more confidence. Nowadays, one of the key weeknesses of kids is they could not face how to tackle failures. I always remind my kid, I don't mind if her result is not at the very top, but I do mind if she is not hardworking or take initiative or irresponsible.

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-22 22:33

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Nowadays students are always served as teachers' PAs. I do see a lot of cases teachers call the student to come back and tell them to get the water bottle for them, getting their pencil cases for them or many many others, haha. My daugter's good friend even has to walk up and down 7 floors even when she's in P.1 several times a day and carry a lot of things with her as she's relatively tall among the others.

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-24 13:18

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"Failure" to score relatively high marks, and failure to perform one's best, are two very different things, I think. Has the teacher confused children of what is genuine "failure" and what is not? is the thing I would like to find out.

作者: NatalieBaby 時間: 14-11-24 18:09 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

講曬全班分數唔好應向學校反映

作者: MASAYA 時間: 14-11-24 18:17

我女個班冇講名講分數，不過就會叫高分同學既學號出去拎小禮物，分數真係冇必要講出黎，邊個成績好，其實每個小朋友都心裡有數

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-24 21:38

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I am not sure what the teachers think about nowadays. In my good old days, I don't think the teachers would have any motivation at all when they asked students to read out the marks, guess it's purely helped them cross check the marks they had recorded.

I agreed with you on your perception on 'failure'. However, I think if one can make the best use of failures to drive he / she to work better, not bad.

作者: Oceania 時間: 14-11-24 22:14 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

我女兒說只講100分者

作者: cstchan 時間: 14-11-26 12:41

marble2004 發表於 14-11-22 22:33
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Nowadays students are always served as teachers' PAs. I do see a lot of case ...

I don't agree.  This depends on the teachers.  It's not a normal situation.
I was teachers' PA when I was a primary student long time ago!  I helped teachers to take the homework books up and down too.  I was happy to help teachers.
When I was a secondary student, my teachers let me know boys should help girls.  I didn't need to take homework books up and down then.  But I needed to remind the boys to help as they were absent-minded.

When I studied in the university, I took the initiative to visit a professor's room before every lesson in order to help him getting the teaching materials to the classroom which was in another building.  I didn't regard myself as PA.  I just wanted to help him as he put a lot of effort in teaching us.

Of course, I don't agree that teachers should regard the students as servants.  However, I would like to let the kids know that it's an honour to serve the others as you have the ability.  It's not a punishment.

I love a word by 曾志偉.  He said, "年青人應該要不怕蝕底" in a TVB program (forgot the name).

作者: cstchan 時間: 14-11-26 12:44

我不贊成老師的做法，但我不會專程跟老師說，或許留待家長日才說。

我反而會教孩子怎樣去面對。將來孩子會遇到各式各樣的人，我們不能處處保護他，所以現在要幫助他成長，教導他如何面對逆境。

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-27 21:44 標題: 回覆：cstchan 的帖子

非以役人乃役于人

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-27 21:55 標題: 回覆：cstchan 的帖子

同意。只是也希望他們的心靈，不受到不必要的傷害。個人認為，其實只要成年人多顧及孩子的情感世界，弄清楚什麼對初小生最重要；即使他們想孩子達到一些目標，也該用適當而無害的技巧去幫他們。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-27 22:06

一個個老師做法，我小朋友某些科，老師都講最高分的幾個同學。

其實小朋友吾太care，亦吾會話睇低分數低的同學，老師講吾講，無也所謂。

作者: FTYPAPA 時間: 14-11-27 22:16 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

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作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-27 22:28

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個小朋友小一、二已經咁樣，在厭惡佢之餘，都有d可憐佢。

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-28 06:12 標題: 回覆：Jane1983 的帖子

這令我想起一個題外、又似乎題內話：原來小朋友是天生識講大話，不用成年人教，又不需受了後者的什麼什麼影響才懂。

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-28 06:17 標題: 回覆：Jane1983 的帖子

可是有分數「低」的同學覺得自己 ... 醜！

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-28 07:34

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小朋友有時吾知道咁樣做，叫做講大話。有時又急住為自己解圍、或者求其答，亦吾知咁樣做係錯。
人之初，性本善。其實如果正常家庭湊大，6、7歲小朋友心靈仲係好純潔。如果真係好有機心、成日講大話，父母要提高警覺，可能有d地方出錯。

作者: FTYPAPA 時間: 14-11-28 10:26 標題: 回覆：Jane1983 的帖子

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作者: happy_lavender 時間: 14-11-28 14:32

Jane1983 發表於 14-11-28 07:34
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小朋友有時吾知道咁樣做，叫做講大話。有時又急住為自己解圍、或者求其答，亦吾知 ...

對得小朋友多，真係越來越覺得人之初，性本惡先o岩。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-28 14:39

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個女仔咁細個，已經做d成人世界會比形容為「咁狗」的行為，係好可悲。以後發展落去，真係好為佢擔心。
父母教壞仔女！

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-28 14:40

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有惡的成份，就睇父母點引導和教化。
有心機、教得好，仲係小天使。

作者: happy_lavender 時間: 14-11-28 14:55

Jane1983 發表於 14-11-28 14:40
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有惡的成份，就睇父母點引導和教化。

呢個就係重點，如果你本著人性本善，就自然會覺得唔教都好，壞係被教壞...........但若然你本著人性本惡，就不會掉以輕心，努力做好教育，因為唔教就自然變壞。

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-28 23:53

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小朋友的世界好童真，他們私下自己都會講分數, 講完聽完就算數，不會記上心，分數高同分數差都好老友，只是大人用了大人的角度去看事情，由得小朋友自己去發展，大人千萬不要在小朋友面前數其他小朋友。

講真，老師要我們由小學講分數到中學，從不覺得有問題

作者: FTYPAPA 時間: 14-11-29 07:59 標題: 回覆：marble2004 的帖子

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作者: karenlyk 時間: 14-11-29 09:15

個個都講分數好刺激喎

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-11-29 10:16

上面兩位講的都有道理。小朋友大部份都純真的，但有少數真係被自己父母污染咗，好細個就好mean、好在意分數，回想自己小學都有呢d同學。

天大地大，初小就太在意分數，真係吾係好事。

作者: surewin 時間: 14-11-29 16:55

小朋友學校老師只說出最高分的同學, 然後老師會獎勵他們, 如果老師發現有同學進步了, 亦會給與他們獎勵的

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-29 17:41 標題: 回覆：surewin 的帖子

這樣，我相信你的小朋友和同班同學，都會 sure win！

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-29 17:44 標題: 引用：Quote:Jane1983+發表於+14-11-28+14:40+回

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呢個就係重點，如果你本著人性本善，就自然會覺得唔教都好，壞係被教壞...........但若然你本著人性本惡， ...

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-11-29 17:48 標題: 回覆：karenlyk 的帖子

而且，對部分小朋友而言，是刺「擊」（打擊）！

作者: marble2004 時間: 14-11-29 22:55

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如果gum 有機心就晤好啦, 如果做父母都覺得無問題, 那小朋友就更可憐...

作者: wister 時間: 14-11-29 23:40

只講高分比較正常，全班逐個講就好似比較少

作者: wan_sosin 時間: 14-12-1 10:52 標題: 回覆：初小派試卷老師遂一說出學生的分數

讀全班分數一定唔好，為什麼要低分學生難受？呢D係精神上嘅傷害！
就算高分，老師讀出頭幾個學生名字，某程度叫鼓勵小朋友，但都仍會令小朋友有所比較！低年班小朋友，咁細個就要面對呢D嘢，有少少覺得不必！
小朋友返去會同家人講，邊個邊個同學叻！
連帶家長都比較，我係家長個WhatsApp谷比人問，我仔話你小朋友好叻喎？我覺得係壓力，叫我答咩好？小朋友話唔埋，下次我仔唔叻時又點呢？
其實到學期尾都會知邊幾個係頭幾名架啦！
但每科每次測考都比較，就多咗D.
我細個讀書，高分低分，老師從來唔會講！
讀書叻的仍會努力！唔會話無足夠讚賞就退步，攞住分卷個分數已是鼓勵！

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-12-3 10:10

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如果一班只有不足十個學生呢？

作者: noplanner 時間: 14-12-3 10:13

wan_sosin 發表於 14-12-1 10:52
呢D係精神上嘅傷害！

絕對係！

作者: rosewong 時間: 14-12-13 05:30 標題: 回覆：noplanner 的帖子

就算不足10個學生，我都覺得無需要講，分數是小朋友的私隱。

作者: notcool 時間: 14-12-13 09:39

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I would say telling the highest score, the mean score and the lowest score in general helps to know where the kid is.

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