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作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-26 18:50 標題: 2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
本帖最後由 wongpm 於 14-8-26 23:32 編輯
成绩评分準則竟然九月才由家長投票，小六学生要面对評分試，今年小六又多了一班，競爭已很大，而家成個考試制度要完全改變，对他們增添了不少壓力，学校究竟有無学他們着想。我作為家長已很心痛。
作者: Gerard 時間: 14-8-26 19:08 標題: 回覆：今天的简介會太離譜
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作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-26 19:22
其他有出席家長会的小六家長有何意見？我們有什麼可以做呢？
作者: Gerard 時間: 14-8-26 19:30 標題: 回覆：今天的简介會太離譜
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作者: No.Three 時間: 14-8-26 21:17
聽說有p6家長代表已和學校取得共識，1號會有意見收集，如大多數家長選擇不變，即會維持舊評分方式，到時請各位家長多多表達大家的意見。
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-26 22:48
若成事實，我必讚成評分準則維持不变
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-26 23:28
若测驗也計分，即表示学生要經歷多幾次評分試，每次測驗都要好似上戰場一樣，增添更多壓力。過往評估不計分，可讓学生及家長作warm up,了解学生的弱项，加以改善，到考試時加強信心。
作者: ononprincess 時間: 14-8-27 07:54
本帖最後由 ononprincess 於 14-8-27 08:05 編輯
昨天的家長會實在令人失望， 新校長提出的 <急進大改革> 完全是一刀切， 沒有顧及到 P6學生、家長面對呈分的壓力，評分標準、考試模式話改就即改，試問學生、家長、甚至老師如何適應呢?!
作者: HTBT 時間: 14-8-27 10:21
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我小朋友今年升中一。升中派位表竟然只 show 派或考得好的英中名出來，其他派去中中或差的就唔講，當你透明，好唔尊重學生，擺明只要成績。我見有需要扣門的同學，學校没有什麼支援。你地要早點做凖備功夫。我由四年級已開始備戰，冇靚成績表真的沒選擇。每次考試都心驚膽跳，尤其呈分試。
作者: No.Three 時間: 14-8-27 12:42
HTBT 發表於 14-8-27 10:21 
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我小朋友今年升中一。升中派位表竟然只 show 派或考得好的英中名出來，其他派 ...
有需要扣門的同學，學校没有什麼支援
--- 呢點就預咗了, 因已往都好似係咁!
作者: Munmun109 時間: 14-8-27 12:56
以前學校真的有改善需要！但咁激進的方案，可以增加補課，但連六年級家長及學生的呈分都擾亂，感覺新校長不近人情!
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-27 14:33
本帖最後由 wongwm 於 14-8-27 15:51 編輯
A message from my friend
Hi Everyone,
Sorry I have to use English as it is my mother tongue. So if someone can translate that be great.
I am the guy who was wearing a yellow shirt and asked many questions in the P6 orientation on the 26 August 2014.
Here are a few things you don't know. And please think back to what I said/asked the new headmistress.
My very first question was 'Have you passed it through SMC?'
Any major change that affects the school, the image of the school a proposal must be submitted to SMC committee, along with statics such as a questionnaire.
Do you remember how she answered me?
She said she doesn't need to ask SMC and that SMC supports her. However she took too much time and made up lies as she answered this question.
I can tell you she didn't notify SMC and did not follow protocol. Also the questionnaire doesn't have an option *No Change* this invalidates the questionnaire and therefore cannot get presented to SMC.
I would also like to tell you, the headmistress had already made the staff at school, work and create the new system (worksheets/timetable etc) during summer holidays, so that the new system will commence on 1st of September. The headmistress didn't care about what parents say, the talks we went to was only informing us, not asking us. Therefore even when the questionnaire is given to us, the school has already started the new system.
I personally agree that changing the school to three test and three exams, may actually be better. My reason is this. Do you remember I asked the question of why only 69 students went to Raimondi College when it was promised 75 seats this year, and also in the past 3 years usually about 90 students from primary section goes to the secondary section. The headmistress failed to answer my question and gave a foolish response. She said 'Not all parents chose the secondary section'. She is lying, this year many P6/S1 students complained but didn't say too much because they were on interview and waiting list. They didn't want to lose their chance by complaining.
My point is, is it because primary section is now too weak compared to other schools? Is this why such a low number accepted to secondary section? Maybe this is why the school needs to change. If this is the reason then I support there must be a change but only for P1 to P5 students and is it the same changes as the headmistress is proposing now? These new changes need time to plan and careful thinking and not rushed like the headmistress is trying. Even if the new system must be passed this year at least P5 students have 6months to adjust but P6 do not have that time. The next exam results for EDB is this semester, students and parents don't know what to expect, or how do things work. The risk is too high. Also the marking scheme is a simple maths equation. At the end if P5 we already submitted our exam marks calculated by the old system, make this X. Now P6 have two more exam results calculated by new system, make this Y. Can you add X and Y together when they are different equations?
I also asked why can't we keep P6 on old system and everyone else on new system. She said it cannot be done. I mean if that is her answer, she really needs to resign. Even HKCEE had a final year. Any new system has a phasing out period of the old system. If she can't even handle so called two systems administratively, then I really question her ability.
The headmistress told us what her qualifications are but I would like to tell everyone she doesn't have PMP/PMI/Prince 2.In other words she hasn't got a high enough qualification to manage a company. You may say it is a school not a company or corporation. Then I ask this, does it have clients, does it have staff, does it have management, does it have accounting? It is a business, end of story.
In summary, the new headmistress is stubborn, incompetent, and frankly doesn't care about the P6 students, doesn't care about parents and most importantly doesn't care about her own staff.
There are certain things I cannot post on an open forum. Feel free to PM me here and I know you all have WhatsApp groups. I am open to join these groups.
What we can do. First we must find the supervisor of this school, whose rank is above the headmistress. However Mr. Lee Shung Tak is on holiday. After that we contact SMC to report this incident, we need PTA's help and also to propose a vote of confidence of the new headmistress.
I know I will vote *No Confidence*.
She lost her composure when I was asking questions. Yes I was hostile, but I only asked questions because I know she didn't follow protocol and didn't listen to anyone. I question her ability, she is someone who is not fit to be in a position of power.
My battery is dying so I don't even have time to prove read this. But must post before I lose this.
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作者: 一家長 時間: 14-8-27 16:30
I don't like her as well. She made up too many excuses to support her plan. She certainly planned to inform us but not to consulted us. To me, changing the full assessment system is major but she said that it is a small change.
From a P6 parent point of view, just leave P6.alone.
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-27 17:13
我非常同意，轉用常平分是好事，但不是立即要轉，对小六学生不公平，戲规則改变，令他們無所適從。
作者: Gerard 時間: 14-8-27 17:37 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-8-27 19:24 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: Munmun109 時間: 14-8-27 19:46
整個改革太傷人，至六年級家長與學生於不顧，枉是為人師表！
如果校長不是這種壞人，咁智慧亦出了問題，不周詳的改革，枉為一校之首！
I fully support the view from the above the headmistress doesn't care parents, students and teachers ! She also totally ignore the value of RC which has been built up for many years ! Right， she is not capable of this position ！
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-8-27 19:52
我最擔心小六学生不習惯這种考卷模式，或会在限時內未能完卷，或令整体grading下降。引致升不到高主教中学的学生因grading下降而未能考入較好的band 2 学校。出面中学好注重学業成绩。
作者: bestmummy 時間: 14-8-28 01:00
I am not P.6 parent but of lower level, I do share the view above. She launches the new system without consulting PTA and parents, who used to be very supportive to school and contributing significantly to school. "Change" is good but need to be well planned and carefully implemented, yet she didn't hint us that she was well prepared. From her speeches, I don't think she understands the current school system and the strengths of students well. Her responses seems to be underestimating the efforts we and the students putting on assessments,
Not sure if she announced the passing mark changed from 50 to 60 in p6 orientation day. In our briefing session, she just teasingly responded a parent's question about the rationale of changing, she responded, "what's the current passing mark? 50/60? would you all think that's okay and good enough?". She just skipped to answer the rationale to change. There're a lot more that I want to say ... keep it short and one word "disappointed".
作者: 一家長 時間: 14-8-28 08:13
有冇高人可以寫封信，家長聯名，向學校，PTA ，校董會反映我地六年班家長的意見和對校長的不滿？
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-28 10:07
本帖最後由 wongwm 於 14-8-28 14:22 編輯
bestmummy 發表於 14-8-28 01:00
I am not P.6 parent but of lower level, I do share the view above. She launches the new system witho ...
She did tell us about the pass mark will be changed to 60%
作者: johnnyrotten 時間: 14-8-28 10:46
本帖最後由 johnnyrotten 於 14-8-28 10:48 編輯
都有學校(我認識既)合格分數係60, 不過份倦淺d, 形式與 TSA 類同.
根據教育局, 好似中學部係有74個位留俾直屬小學部, 但係計埋叩門成功果8個定9 個, 又冇違反承諾, 只能批評中學部校長幾滑頭!
而家中小學部校長都係空降, 並唔係與高記一起成長, 作風好唔同.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-28 14:22
Hi all again,
I contacted SMC but the chairman is on holiday, so I contacted the next rank above SMC, the Catholic Church education department.
The representative, agreed that the P6 needs to be reconsidered and more planning needed. The questionnaire has not been finalised and not passed through SMC yet. The SMC did give the order that the school needs change and improvement but doesn't know the details the headmistress decided.
We are advised to attach a letter with our suggestions and complaints with the questionnaire.
The Catholic Church education department is advising SMC and headmistress to arrange with PTA an open forum where all parents are invited (They are likely to do it by each grade). The timing of this forum will be in the middle of September.
SMC is still on holiday today but they are supposed to have a meeting before 1st of September.
That's all the information I have for now, I am waiting for SMC to reply to me.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-28 14:24
一家長 發表於 14-8-28 08:13
有冇高人可以寫封信，家長聯名，向學校，PTA ，校董會反映我地六年班家長的意見和對校長的不滿？ ...
作者: FungMm 時間: 14-8-28 14:48 標題: 引用：Quote:一家長+發表於+14-8-28+08:13+有冇高
原帖由 wongwm 於 14-08-28 發表
I sent the letter already
另外有沒有6B 家長？ 可add me to your what's app group? Pls pm me... 
作者: ononprincess 時間: 14-8-28 14:57
本帖最後由 ononprincess 於 14-8-28 15:09 編輯
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Hi wongwm, many thanks for your help and update.
想問下大家對新校長推出的bridging course（ every Tuesday and Thursday 留到4：30 pm） 又有何意見呢？
我就反對，學習時間太長。辛苦老師，辛苦學生。
作者: No.Three 時間: 14-8-28 15:27
ononprincess 發表於 14-8-28 14:57
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Hi wongwm, many thanks for your help and update.
作者: No.Three 時間: 14-8-28 15:33
wongwm 發表於 14-8-28 14:22
Hi all again,
I contacted SMC but the chairman is on holiday, so I contacted the next rank above S ...
Thanks for your effort on both our children.
If any further action is necessary, please advise.
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 14-8-28 15:44 標題: 引用：Hi+all+again,+I+contacted+SMC+but+the+ch
原帖由 wongwm 於 14-08-28 發表
Hi all again,
I contacted SMC but the chairman is on holiday, so I contacted the next rank above S ...
Thank you very much for your effort.
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-8-28 16:36 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: Gerard 時間: 14-8-28 16:44 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: FungMm 時間: 14-8-28 16:55 標題: 回覆：Gerard 的帖子
家長一樣架……再加咪迷失tim....
作者: snoopy888 時間: 14-8-28 17:04
Hi wongwm,
Much grateful for your effort in this battle.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-28 22:51
本帖最後由 wongwm 於 14-8-28 23:02 編輯
Dear all,
I am simply now re-sending what I have been receiving through WhatsApp groups. If it is a repeat I am sorry, but since no one has posted here yet, so I will.
其他六年班，班主任話，開學後會有好多功課.
阿仔話中文已没有閱工紙，全部變補充紙。課後補課是補你們唔識的東西！
問過Miss Chiu有關補課內容，她說不會教新東西，只會教答題技巧，解釋大家已教但不懂的地方。
From Mr Tam, President of PTA. ".... I am aware of the case, of course l share your and other parents' feeling. That's why l called the Principal up at my capacity this morning. She didn't return my call personally and ask someone else to convey the message to me; that P6 will not adopt new system and P5 will subject to the majority opinion ( p.5 parents to vote on the day school starts ) about the adoption, weighting of the assessment...."
End of messages.
So now I think the headmistress is totally useless. She finds someone else to reply to Head of PTA, it is rude, unprofessional and doesn't want to face problems.
She really needs to retire forever.
作者: SandyAlana 時間: 14-8-28 23:50 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
轉左新校長，請問改革後高小好定唔好？ 會唔會提升學校學術水平？ 準備報小一，想瞭解多些。
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-29 10:06
SandyAlana 發表於 14-8-28 23:50
轉左新校長，請問改革後高小好定唔好？ 會唔會提升學校學術水平？ 準備報小一，想瞭解多些。
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If you are entering P1 it should not be a problem. But all you need to know is the school workload will be higher like the other crazy schools.
I can't answer if it will be good because I expect parents will need to find extra tutors to teach the children.
Also we are talking about this useless headmistress, so don't expect anything good from her.
作者: Michael_wong 時間: 14-8-29 15:25
是否已經決定p6用舊的呈分方法.?現在訊息混亂
作者: LesMis99 時間: 14-8-29 15:44
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I would like to share with you, the parents of Raimondi Primary School, some experiences that I have after spending the past 5 years for my kid to study there. I think the reasons behind the most recent changes are not unexpected.
The School has been trying very hard to excel itself and stand out among the primary schools in HK by the introduction of policies like:
1. the use of PTH to teach Chinese
2. teaching English half an year ahead of other primary schools (like using 5B/6A textbooks for Primary 5 students)
3. teaching Mathematics mainly in Chinese with some English supplement to the selected topics
etc
Based on my obsevations over the years, I think the above policy has failed to achieve its purpose by raising the students' overall standard in terms of their language skills and study interests. On the contray, the non-standard course structure, in particularly point 2 and 3 above, has confused many students and parents in terms of assisting their kids in revising the tests and exams.
The co-ordination among the teachers to assign homework to students is close to "zero". Poor students are 'hit' by quite a heavy workload during the assessment period or even few days before the exams. Studies there is no longer an enjoyable experience. You know what I mean! I have heard that students stay up until 11pm and beyond during the assessment period. Sigh!
I think the new headmistress could have contributed the falling standard to the 'assessment' system. As many students do not take the assessments very seriously because they are not counted towards the final results. That could be used as an excuse to explain the falling standard, i.e. the low admission rate to its Secondary School this year. By doing so, the new headmistress does not need to do many things to revisit various old and poor policies. The students/parents will then become scapegoats!
作者: bullbull1 時間: 14-8-29 16:17
我係上年小六嘅家長（仔仔今年升上原校中一），想有些資料補充番比大家知。
其實今年原校升上中學數字偏低某程度上唔係因為上年小六生的成績差咗，反而佢地考嘅成績仲考得好過之前嗰年（由中學校長自己講）。只係因為上年中學部換了新校長，佢地收生要求完全收變，引至好多考得唔錯嘅學生都入唔番。
另外小學校長唔應該一開始就進行大改革，佢應該要上任後再慢慢睇清楚，點可能好似而家咁返咗兩個月工就乜都要改。希望新校長能耐心聽取大家意見，搵個平衡點，唔好再令家長和學生失望。
作者: FungMm 時間: 14-8-29 16:22 標題: 回覆：LesMis99 的帖子
我都理解新校長的動机及做法是正面。对小朋成绩亦是有考慮、好似默書佔考試10%便可見一斑。 因我小朋友為例、上次呈英文試正是生病中，需不致發燒要告假、不過真係差少少。如果默書佔10分、可以無咁大壓力，因平常默書都有温習。
不過校長及老師能考慮将3测3考改為2测2考，家長和小朋友都不用太大壓力。
作者: feiji 時間: 14-8-29 16:37 標題: 引用：我係上年小六嘅家長（仔仔今年升上原校中一
原帖由 bullbull1 於 14-08-29 發表
我係上年小六嘅家長（仔仔今年升上原校中一），想有些資料補充番比大家知。
其實今年原校升上中學數字偏低 ...
作者: FungMm 時間: 14-8-29 18:45 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+bullbull1+於+14-08-29+發表
原帖由 feiji 於 14-08-29 發表
請問現在中學部的收生要求轉了成怎樣？可以分享一下嗎？謝謝。
作者: johnnyrotten 時間: 14-8-29 19:38
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中學部統一派位階段似乎沒有盡用74個直屬學位，69個學生仲係包埋自行分配部分，個校長好滑頭！不過講番轉頭，假如高記保唔住個 emi 地位，小學部就唔會咁多人追捧，遲早摺，下場就好似慈幼英文學校小學部一樣。
作者: bullbull1 時間: 14-8-29 23:56
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中學部統一派位階段似乎沒有盡用74個直屬學位，69個學生仲係包埋自行分配部分，個 ...
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 00:51 標題: 回覆：bullbull1 的帖子
我也是13-14年度小六家長。bullbull1所說是正確的，我們這屆學生的成績非常好，甚至有老師說是近十年最好的。
少了學生升到中學部有兩大原因: 第一, 中學部換了新校長，對收生要求改變了; 第二，今年多了很多其他學校的band 1 生選高主教為第一志願，所以高小的band 2生如在直屬位派不到中學部，便幾乎沒有機會了。
另外，外面傳聞頭20名的都去了其他學校，這是不正確，只有一半走了，今年比較多成績好的同學選擇升上中學部，我認識的頭10名而又留下的，也有4位。
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 00:57 標題: 回覆：tsmama 的帖子
聽聞12-13年度的TSA成績不太理想，導致13-14年度的高小band 1 生名額大減，希望我們今年的pre-S1成績，能有利於來年學弟學妹的派位結果。
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-8-30 06:42 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: HTBT 時間: 14-8-30 07:51
本帖最後由 HTBT 於 14-8-30 08:03 編輯
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我也聽說過這個傳聞，我們 13-14 屆成績是近十年來最好。除了升中學部， 其餘往其他英中的同學，不是頭十名，也是頭四十名內的 。聽說今年扣番入中學部的有考過百的同學。不知道老師是否較保守或嚇我地，去年班主任説考四十左右已 是 band 1 尾 band 2 頭了。
作者: johnnyrotten 時間: 14-8-30 10:29
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我也聽說過這個傳聞，我們 13-14 屆成績是近十年來最好。除了升中學部， 其餘往其他 ...
過百叩番入高記果個體育好有成就，話唔定可以代表香港，佢去試男拔的話都可能有機，切忌用呢個做指標！
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 10:45 標題: 回覆：YYmommom 的帖子
大抽獎入皇仁的有兩個，據我所知較差那個是全級4x.
作者: bullbull1 時間: 14-8-30 11:28
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聽聞12-13年度的TSA成績不太理想，導致13-14年度的高小band 1 生名額大減，希望我們今年的pre-S1成績，能有 ...
作者: bullbull1 時間: 14-8-30 11:29
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過百叩番入高記果個體育好有成就，話唔定可以代表香港，佢去試男拔的話都可能有機，切忌用呢個做指標！ ...
聽番黎咋，男拔好似真係收咗佢，但佢唔讀，一心一意想入番高記中學部。所以最後叩門入番。
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 11:43 標題: 回覆：tsmama 的帖子
本帖最後由 tsmama 於 14-8-30 23:27 編輯
一向也覺得本港升中派位這遊戲非常不公，今年置身其中更完全體會到。13-14年度學生明明成績優異，就是去年TSA影響到一些成績不錯的同學變為band 2 生， 因而不能派入中學部。
而事實上，中學部利用pre-S1為分班試，高小生與外來生同考一份中英數卷，結果被編入精英班的絕大部份是高小學生，甚至有些在高小時被認為是band 2的學生。我大膽的認為今年高小的band 2生比外面其他學校的band 1生成績更佳。但抽獎規則便是這樣，大家實在無能為力。唯一希望中學校長在今年的結果中確認到高小生的質素，明年會好好用盡85%的直屬位。
題外話: 聽過不少以往例子，一些考過100而最終不能叩回中學部的同學，入讀了一些band 2 中學，結果名列前茅，讀得非常開心。
作者: johnnyrotten 時間: 14-8-30 12:19
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我個仔100過外入 b2，佢問我點解 ps1 比高小 d 倦淺咁多，結果入左英文班，另一個高小與佢名次差不多都係。
作者: FungMm 時間: 14-8-30 12:34 標題: 引用：回覆+tsmama+的帖子
我個仔100過外入+b2，
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我個仔100過外入 b2，佢問我點解 ps1 比高小 d 倦淺咁多，結果入左英文班，另一個高小 ...
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體育叻果位叩番入中學部果位同學係我仔班的，男拔好似冇收佢。男拔收左但唔去讀果位去左 LS。
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 15:49 標題: 回覆：HTBT 的帖子
但去左LS那位同學的家長是希望兒子留在高記的，認為對兒子會更有得著，是同學堅持要去LS.
其實LS也邀請了同學今年入讀高記小一的弟弟入LS小學，但家長最後決定讓弟弟讀高小。
作者: bullbull1 時間: 14-8-30 16:28
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體育叻果位叩番入中學部果位同學係我仔班的，男拔好似冇收佢。男拔收左但唔去讀果 ...
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 18:57 標題: 回覆：johnnyrotten 的帖子
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johnnyrotten, 如沒有估錯，貴公子是入了你之前提及那學校的中學部。我認識3位在這中學的學生，同屆應考未代a level, 結果3人分別入了港中科3大。就是他們讓我下定決心不強迫兒子去報考那些所謂的超級學校(我兒子也是全級頭10，他一心要回高記)，不竟讀書是要靠學生自身的努力，6年後大家又會在大學再做同學的，大家努力吧！
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 20:11 標題: 回覆：tsmama 的帖子
不好意思，說了太多有關今年派位的事。
雖然我已離開小學部，仍希望高小能越辦越好。看了大家提及的種種改革，以下全是個人想法 :
1. 我覺得小學校長的改革，是本身過急表現，她在以前那小學確實有相當成就，所以便把那套搬過來。只怕那種教學模式， 只講成績，不能維持學生的學習興趣。
2. 以往我跟兒子在每次評估和考試都是全力以赴的，有時評估做得比考試好，感覺有點可惜。亦有聽過家長表示只計考試分有些危險，始終是一戰定生死。所以我認為評估計入考試分不是壞事，只是比率方面需要調節。
3. Pass mark 改為60分有點多此一舉，我屆經常取得5x分的學生數目不多，就算是合格，已被認為是成績差。把pass mark改為60分對整體成績不會有很大影響。
4.
作者: tsmama 時間: 14-8-30 20:36 標題: 回覆：tsmama 的帖子
4. 寫作對將來中學及DSE課程非常重要，注重寫作絕對是好事。但提升寫作技巧並非一朝一夕可辦到之事，除非校長有秘技可短時間提升學生寫作能力，否則提高寫作分比重應從小一二做起。
5. 無論如何任何改變都需要適應期，要5及6年級這關鍵時刻即時改革實在不公，校長需慎重考慮撤回改革。
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-8-31 02:00
Hi all, I haven't disappeared. Been very busy working on this matter. However I am not in a position to update what I know yet, until we receive the Questionnaire. It all depends if they really did listen, but if the Questionnaire didn't change (i.e. it only still has 3 options, no option for no change) then we have a very serious problem. Also we also need to find out if all Grades received the exact same Questionnaire.
I also believe the open forum that is suppose to happen in September, they will separate each Grade too. If they do it like this, I think the school is afraid and don't want parents to all bond together. They have something to hide.
Please don't say, it is not possible to group every parent from all Grades, they just need to rent a big hall from somewhere. It is possible and even if administratively it will take a very long time to ask questions and the forum will take lets say 3 hours minimum, I am sure most parents would still be happy to attend.
作者: bestmummy 時間: 14-9-1 00:34 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
Surely be happy to attend if there is such a session. At least, an opportunity to hear the views from all and facilitate the best understanding before the parents opt for any choice. Till now, there're still a lots of things in doubts, like whether the syllabus will be accumulated? What would be the volume for each test/exams? etc.
If there is a questionnaire, I am not sure about how the votes would be calculated and presented too. No trust indeed.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 11:43
Right I can update you all now.
I have received the questionnaire through unofficial means.
There are 2 versions of the questionnaire. P1 to P4 has questionnaire A, and P5 to P6 has questionnaire B.
Version A, the standard 3 options we already know plus option 4: One more test on top of 3 exams. So it becomes 1 test 3 exams.
Version B, the standard 3 options we already know plus 2 more options.
Option 4: 10% test 90% exam, Option 5: 0% test 100% exam.
Please do not be happy just yet.
The headmistress still failed to answer two important administrative questions.
1) Who governs and checks the questionnaire results are really collected and counted properly. How will parents know the school really counted and that the school didn't lie about the results. I asked for the counting to be done publicly or some representive in power like PTA to over see this process.
2)Version B has option 5 0% test 100% exam, this doesn't answer if the exam papers haven't changed. Remember the headmistress said she wanted to make it into 2 essays for Chinese and English. I have received no information about this either.
I am sorry for being so mean and not trusting even after the school seems to have listened. However in my opinion they are just trying to sweeten things but not truly fixing things. My reason is simple, with the questionnaire my above two points should have already been addressed at the same time. And since it is not, I am back to the incompetent headmistress thinking again.
作者: No.Three 時間: 14-9-1 12:01
Therefore, we have to follow her "game rules" indeed without choice?!
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 14-9-1 12:23 標題: 回覆：No.Three 的帖子
Any idea of the bridging course. When will it start or will it be cancelled? How to arrange the pick up then? sigh...
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 12:44
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Ok more updates to for P5 and P6
Paper 1 - 40% (combine old system paper 1 and paper 2 together)
Paper 2 - 30% (two essay writing)
Listening - 10%
Speaking - 10%
So we are still doomed.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 13:13
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This is for P1-P4
Page 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ty9bg9g0i4s2jqj/IMG-20140901-WA0000.jpg?dl=0
Page 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehxdjtfret35juf/IMG-20140901-WA0001%20%281%29.jpg?dl=0
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 13:23
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Bridging course will continue. You have the option to participate or not. Ends at 4:30pm if I am not mistaken. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The headmistress did say something about school bus taking them away.
However it won't work. This bridging course is completely flawed.
1) All grades have this bridging course.
2) All grades happen on the same day.
3) I wonder if they even have enough teachers to do this then.
4) Is just doing worksheets. Treat it as an extra lesson. I mean at best they are only going to have 1 teacher inside the classroom.
5) The teachers can't handle this sudden extra workload. The people who has to make the worksheets and then the people who has to teach and mark it.
6) The headmistress is a slave driver.
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 14-9-1 13:49
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Bridging course will continue. You have the option to participate or not. End ...
wongwm,
Thank you very much for your update and efforts. Very much appreciated.
作者: nicnicchu 時間: 14-9-1 14:07
wongwm
Thank you for your efforts! Will vote for no changes.
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-9-1 14:17
我都反對考試內容的改变，若学生未能適應，會影響整体平均分數。尤其作文比重那麼高，作文很難拿滿分，直接拉低個grading.我堅持要维持原本，包括考試內容。
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-9-1 15:14 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: NWO002 時間: 14-9-1 15:18
無論在考試形式、計分標準、內容比重，各方面都跟之前有所改變，真不知道我們可憐嘅P6學生及家長怎樣可以在這短短兩個月裏面去適應，從而可以考好十一月的第二個呈分試？
當其他小學正在幫其小六生全力以赴準備呈二試嘅時候，我們高小家長學生們還未知道及肯定自己學校最終的考試规則是怎樣，令人無所適從，真是有點兒大讓賽的感覺！
希望學校盡快醒悟，能夠跟家長們達成共識！
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 17:23
In very simple words. The headmistress heard we are not happy with 3 test 3 exams. So she gives us the option of no change but really she still changed the exam content. So is a lie even when we choose the no change option because it really isn't no change.
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-9-1 18:51 標題: 回覆：wongwm 的帖子
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作者: Michael_wong 時間: 14-9-1 19:09
唔係用舊制,就跟以往的呈分機制一様,默書和作文唔計.定我理解錯誤.
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-9-1 19:12 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: Michael_wong 時間: 14-9-1 19:13
其實呢一刻我只想要落實時間表,畢竟時間緊迫,只想快快準備溫書呈分.
作者: 888mum 時間: 14-9-1 20:39
據我了解，通告內選擇二是沿用舊有模式，卷一及卷二合計一個分數，dict 及comp各自一個分數，同舊有成绩表一樣。但填questionaire時,.就要選option5。張通告及questionaire實在令人有点混亂。
我会選option5，讓我同小朋友可安心過渡評分試。
我覺得有怀疑，可打电話向班主任問清楚，向來高小的老師都很樂意解答我們的問題。
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 22:19
本帖最後由 wongwm 於 14-9-1 22:37 編輯
Please be aware choosing option 5 does not mean old system/no change.
Option 5 only means 3 exams only.
But the exam papers are the new system. Reason I say this is because the memo is written very badly. Too many gray areas. So again don't trust it.
So here is what a lot of parents are going to do especially P4 and below. Doesn't choose any of the options but attach a letter complaining and stating what they want.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-1 23:51
Ok after receiving some feedback, I need to clarify my suspicions.
Look at page 2 of the memo. It has option 1 and option 2 exam paper /mark calculation.
Return slip has 5 options. Does option 5 mean with option 2 of mark calculation.
Or is it the headmistress wants to make everything confusing so people tick option 2 by mistake.
The exam mark calculation really should have used Option A and Option B.
The memo as a legal document is flawed and pointless.
作者: bestmummy 時間: 14-9-2 00:38 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
The way she designed such notice showed how the principal poorly managed everything and how the situation has been complicated by the her. Yes, she might intentionally cause such confusion! How do u all feel about her integrity?
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-9-2 11:53 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
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作者: wongpm 時間: 14-9-3 17:49
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昨晚亞仔同我講，話他好多野想，他好驚改革令他考得差。我聽完都覺得好傷心，唔通我真係選错左學校
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 14-9-4 10:21 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+wongpm+於+14-9-3+21:12+編輯+
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昨晚亞仔同我講，話他好多野想，他好驚改革令他考得差。我聽完 ...
作者: wongpm 時間: 14-9-4 12:47
我非常同意pauline的說話，我都同亞仔講，只要盡力考，無論是否升回中学，我們都已是勝利者，盡了力便算！希望真的令仔仔釋懷。
作者: Ronniemei 時間: 14-9-4 17:18
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我是今年小五家長, 你說13/14年高小全級頭10名有4個同學升回中學部, 想問全級頭10名報出面比較有名的中學(如皇仁, St. Joseph, King's, 華仁) 機會大嗎? 我囝上年全級4-5, 聽聞選校時一定要在甲部同乙部選中學部, 否則就會入唔番.
如成績一路keep 到頭10名內, 想博吓其他好d 中學, 如甲部唔選中學部, 只在乙部第3志願選中學部, 派不到的話再回來扣門有機嗎? 阿囝比較被動, 擔心甲部interview不好, 所以想在乙部博下大抽獎, 但又怕唔好彩抽不到, 到時想入番中學部扣門又唔收 (因為只在乙部第三志願), 都唔知博唔博好......
13/14高小d 同學仔好叻呀, 一共有5個入皇仁, 應是高小近年極少見的佳績, 抵讚.
作者: YYmommom 時間: 14-9-4 20:50 標題: 回覆：Ronniemei 的帖子
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作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-5 19:27
Well more updates and they are all bad news.
SMC and Catholic Church Education department are both in support with the changes the headmistress proposed. They even had powerful people present to suppress any opposition.
P5 and P6: The questionnaire counting was not a 90% victory. There was around 20% minimum which didn't choose option 5. So you can guess the administrators are very happy.
P1 to P4: You are doomed. You have absolutely no say.
All counting was done internally, no one over saw the process.
作者: wongwm 時間: 14-9-5 19:34
本帖最後由 wongwm 於 14-9-5 19:38 編輯
What is everyone's view of the bridging class? They are making it compulsory to attend maths. But there is a problem.
Bridging course is an extra activity and not part of EDB curriculum. So it being set inside school time is inappropriate and probably broke a few rules. I need to find out and read into the guidelines but instinct tells me something is not right.
Anyhow my reply to the notice will be, attend none of the class. Not going to tick any of their boxes.
作者: bestmummy 時間: 14-9-11 15:12 標題: 回覆：2014-P6家長會(新校長大改革),今年小六家長請進
本帖最後由 bestmummy 於 14-9-11 15:16 編輯
Did anyone aware about this?
今日星島曰報見有家長投訴高小
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2899048&extra=page%3D3
作者: RoseRose1980 時間: 14-9-14 01:42
Ronniemei 發表於 14-9-4 17:18
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華仁同高記的dse成績差唔多,如係華仁的話我情願留番高記,話哂多小學同學仔同聲同氣,開心d
作者: Ronniemei 時間: 14-9-25 11:12
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你意思是乙一如不選高記=自動放棄聯繫位...... 那麼之前在13-14年兩位大抽獎入皇仁的同學也是放棄了聯繫位 (因應是在乙一選了皇仁)? 全級考40+那位咁博?
那麼, 所有不升上中學部而被派到比較好的津校同學都要博....博個抽籤No.前?
亦即是說......除非在自行面試的兩間已ok, 否則就要靠運氣, 如抽籤No.後, 就好大機會唔知派左去邊?
每年小學部都有30+人入了其他比較好的中學, 那除了直資外, 所有走的人都要靠運氣? 點敢博?
其實如果全級頭十名, 乙一如不選高記, 派不好回頭扣門的機會有幾大? or 因 乙一不選他們, 扣門的機會也沒有? 知否有沒有成功例子?
這樣的派位制度真令人費解.....
樓主, 對不起, 佔用了這版問升中問題
作者: likim8160 時間: 14-9-25 15:32
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I think the bridging clase is just a waste of time. The primary school curriculum is enough. If there is really a need for bridiging class, it should be organised by the secondary school during the summer vacation of P6.
作者: No.Three 時間: 14-9-25 16:34
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What is everyone's view of the bridging class? They are making it compulsory to attend maths. But th ...
聽聞小朋友只係在堂上做返以已往p5的練習, 何苦 苦了學生又苦了老師呢!!!!!
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