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作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-2 17:08 標題: 本地人入ESF

本帖最後由 happymama2007 於 14-8-2 17:09 編輯

如果父母都係LOCAL,小朋友冇外國PASSPORT，係咪就算入到ESF KINDERGARTEN都好難入到小學?
因為我見佢個網頁寫要收70%持有外國護照既學生
"In line with the Education Bureau requirements, at least 70% of the total students enrolled will qualify as ‘non-local’, defined as being holders of an overseas passport."

http://www.esf.edu.hk/policy2013

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-8-2 23:46

如果你鍾意Esf，有無外國passport都好，都係入咗Esf kindergarten有好處/priority，易d入番Esf小學。

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作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-3 00:22

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係呀但係見如果小學得3成學位比local
聽落好似好難入到就算入esf kinder

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-8-3 07:17 標題: 引用：回覆+Jane1983+的帖子係呀但係見如果小學

原帖由 happymama2007 於 14-08-03 發表
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係呀但係見如果小學得3成學位比local

揀 DC or RC 咪得囉。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-8-3 11:05

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我吾係Esf用家，不過識幾個都係有passport的家庭，可能入面的學生有海外passport的，多過無的好多都吾定，達這個比率未必係學校收生的一個重要考慮。
樓上講DC和RC，係一樣啦。另外，就算Esf小學真系吾收，小朋友在Esf幼稚園讀完，考其他IS都吾一定無機。你想行IS這條路，Esf kindergarten係一個幾好的開始。

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-8-3 12:26 標題: 引用：回覆+happymama2007+的帖子我吾係Esf用家

原帖由 Jane1983 於 14-08-03 發表
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我吾係Esf用家，不過識幾個都係有passport的家庭，可能入面的學生有海外passpo ...

樓上講DC和RC，係一樣啦。

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一樣？我係回樓主説 ESF 收七成非港人。DC 和 RC 卻規定收七成港人，差得遠。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-8-3 12:31

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我系話一種考慮呀！

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-3 19:33

唔該晒咁多位既意見我而家都係諗住安排佢入ESF KG
本身仔仔而家一歲住TKO所以諗住幫佢報abacus playgroup 但個waiting list 已經超過100人知唔知其他ESF KG 有冇playgroup?上佢個網剩係得Abacus 有
如果入唔到ESF playgroup,有d咩playgroup 會幫到入ESF KG?
另外邊間ESF KG會冇咁大競爭易入d?
Thanks all!!

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-4 03:46

happymama2007 發表於 14-8-3 19:33
另外邊間ESF KG會冇咁大競爭易入d? ...

ESF will be opening a new kindergarten in Tung Chung in August 2015, which will definitely offload some demand on the Tsing Yi kindergarten. From my anecdotal observation, around 15% to 20% of the current Tsing Yi pupils live on Lantau (mostly Discovery Bay and Tung Chung), so one can expect the new Tung Chung kindergarten to lessen the load on Tsing Yi by that amount. However, given that you live in TKO, you will need to move should you consider Tsing Yi or even Tung Chung.

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-4 16:44

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Thanks
What about Abacus? Is the competition very keen?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-4 17:55

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happymama2007 發表於 14-8-4 16:44
What about Abacus? Is the competition very keen?

I'm not familiar with Abacus, but I think their situation next year should be the same as previous years, no major changes, i.e. won't be any less competitive.

Actually this year has been a bit of an odd year because ESF was planning to remove their kindergarten's interview priority to their primary schools, this had made their kindergartens less attractive and put off many prospective applicants, so those who had faith in ESF kindergartens and applied despite the lack of priority had a relatively easy time, but now that ESF has backtracked and dropped their plan to remove the priority, things are back to what they were before.

作者: ngngachun 時間: 14-8-4 18:55 標題: 回覆：本地人入ESF

其實香港島ESF Quarry Bay Primary school難唔難入，小兒今年K2Hillside插班,想問問入Quarry Bay school機會

作者: PANDORA33 時間: 14-8-4 20:37 標題: 回覆：ngngachun 的帖子

students starting from K2 will not enjoy interview priority for ESF primary schools

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-5 12:04

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一定要K1讀起先有ESF PRIMARY INTERVIEW PRIORITY?

作者: PANDORA33 時間: 14-8-5 12:27 標題: 引用：回覆+PANDORA33+的帖子一定要K1讀起先有E

原帖由 happymama2007 於 14-08-05 發表
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一定要K1讀起先有ESF PRIMARY INTERVIEW PRIORITY?

According to esf website, attendence of a minimum 2 terms in esf kindergarten prior to the interview is required to be eligible for the priority.

作者: nintendo 時間: 14-8-5 16:44

PANDORA33 發表於 14-8-5 12:27
According to esf website, attendence of a minimum 2 terms in esf kindergarten prior to the interview ...

Interview starts in October........

作者: PANDORA33 時間: 14-8-5 17:23 標題: 引用：Quote:PANDORA33+發表於+14-8-5+12:27+Acco

原帖由 nintendo 於 14-08-05 發表
Interview starts in October........

the interview is in Jan（of k2），so you need to be enrolled no later than the second term of K1。Correct me if I am wrong

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-5 18:05

The actual wording is this ...

"Priority for interview is subject to having attended kindergarten for a minimum of two terms prior to the applicable January Year 1 interview period"
http://www.esfkindergartens.org. ... hool-interview.html

So the child needs to be enrolled by the 3rd term (April to June) of K1 in order to enjoy the priority.

作者: nintendo 時間: 14-8-5 18:07 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+nintendo+於+14-08-05+發表In

原帖由 PANDORA33 於 14-08-05 發表
the interview is in Jan（of k2），so you need to be enrolled no later than the second term of K1。Co ...

I do not know when year one interview will be. If I remember right, every school ( primary school) can be different. I am not here to help correct anyone. But it is not wise to presume you are under the safety net. And that is why, generally a lot of parents would "remind" everyone that, if u join at K2, u might not get priority. PS. My kids are in high school now so I cannot remember when interview was.

作者: PANDORA33 時間: 14-8-5 19:09 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+PANDORA33+於+14-08-05+發表t

原帖由 nintendo 於 14-08-05 發表
I do not know when year one interview will be. If I remember right, every school ( primary school) c ...

yes that's exactly what I mean。插班 K2 might not get the priority

作者: Sonaming 時間: 14-8-6 10:30 標題: 回覆：本地人入ESF

去interview (P1) 嗰陣，見到真係個個家長都幾本passport , 但我地冇外國passport 都收左

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-6 10:45

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Thanks!
其實想小朋友入IS行IB, 除左ESF有冇邊間會易D比本地人入?
同埋除左ESF KINDER, 邊間KINDER會易D多D入機會入IS?
THANKS!!

作者: Birkin 時間: 14-8-6 12:32 標題: 引用：去interview+(P1)+嗰陣，見到真係個個家長

原帖由 Sonaming 於 14-08-06 發表
去interview (P1) 嗰陣，見到真係個個家長都幾本passport , 但我地冇外國passport 都收左

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You need to bring your passports with you to the interview??

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 15:04

Sonaming 發表於 14-8-6 10:30
去interview (P1) 嗰陣，見到真係個個家長都幾本passport , 但我地冇外國passport 都收左

I wonder if BNO and HKSAR makes a difference, perhaps not, but just wondering :)

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 15:06

Birkin 發表於 14-8-6 12:32
You need to bring your passports with you to the interview??

Yes you do, they need to verify the nationality claimed in the application form, and for non-residents the visa in the passport.

作者: Birkin 時間: 14-8-6 15:16 標題: 引用：Quote:Birkin+發表於+14-8-6+12:32+You+nee

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-08-06 發表
Yes you do, they need to verify the nationality claimed in the application form, and for non-residen ...

Thanks, FattyDaddy. Just the applicant's passport and not the parents' as well I hope. Otherwise, people might think that we are heading to the airport instead of going for an interview at ESF :p

作者: ramen 時間: 14-8-6 15:30

Regarding the parent statement for Y1 application, may I ask what it is about? What do I need to write about? And about how long that would be adequate? Thank you.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 15:42

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Birkin 發表於 14-8-6 15:16
Thanks, FattyDaddy. Just the applicant's passport and not the parents' as well I hope. Otherwise, pe ...

They need to see the passport of both parents as well as the child's.

When you apply, you are supposed to send in photocopies of the passports to support the application, so on the day of the interview they check the originals :)

作者: ramen 時間: 14-8-6 15:48

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FattyDaddy 發表於 14-8-6 15:42
They need to see the passport of both parents as well as the child's.

When you apply, you are suppo ...

Think ESF is getting serious here...they didn't do that when I took my elder one to the interview back then.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 15:55

ramen 發表於 14-8-6 15:48
Think ESF is getting serious here...they didn't do that when I took my elder one to the interview b ...

I guess so.

I think we both know that more and more people are opting for international schools so the demand has been increasing much faster than available places, so it is not surprising that ESF is getting more serious now.

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-6 17:12

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聽講ESF遲D會開始冇政府資助...知唔知到時學費會調整幾多呢?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 18:07

happymama2007 發表於 14-8-6 17:12
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聽講ESF遲D會開始冇政府資助...知唔知到時學費會調整幾多呢?

The current government subvention makes up for around 20% of ESF's costs, so one could expect school fees to rise by at least 20% when the subvention is phased out, beginning with students starting Year 1 in 2016.

The above applies to ESF Foundation schools only, the two PIS colleges, i.e. Discovery and Renaissance, do not benefit from the current subvention so its removal should not affect them as much as the Foundation schools.

作者: sweetheartb 時間: 14-8-6 18:25 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+happymama2007+於+14-8-2+17:0

原帖由 happymama2007 於 14-08-02 發表
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如果父母都係LOCAL,小朋友冇外國PASSPORT，係咪就算入 ...

Think it depends on which ESF foundation school, eg SJS/KJS/BHS - quite a lot of Hksar passport holders got P1 offers in the past few years.

I guess those on the island should take a larger portion of foreign passport holders.

作者: Sonaming 時間: 14-8-6 21:16 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

BNO 同特區passport 我覺得冇分別，但真係有人兩本都帶去

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-6 22:03

sweetheartb 發表於 14-8-6 18:25
Think it depends on which ESF foundation school, eg SJS/KJS/BHS - quite a lot of Hksar passport hold ...

ThanksWhat about CWBS?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-8-6 23:12

sweetheartb 發表於 14-8-6 18:25
Think it depends on which ESF foundation school, eg SJS/KJS/BHS - quite a lot of Hksar passport hold ...

Given that expats tend to reside on the island side, the phenomenon you described could be a matter of demographics rather than an actual difference in admission preferences with regards to nationality for different ESF schools.

I say this because Discovery College (in Discovery Bay) is arguably the "most foreign" among all schools under the ESF umbrella, yet it is a PIS like Renaissance, where 70% of the students should be local residents. This goes to show that in a cosmopolitan city like Hongkong, appearance is no longer indicative of nationality, there are many locals with foreign citizenship and there are many foreigners who are local residents.

At the end of the day, for a local without foreign passport, it goes without saying that their chances are better with the two PIS colleges.

作者: sweetheartb 時間: 14-8-7 08:05 標題: 引用：Quote:sweetheartb+發表於+14-8-6+18:25+Th

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-08-06 發表
Given that expats tend to reside on the island side, the phenomenon you described could be a matter ...

Agreed, Fatty daddy. My point is to respond to the original question that, with or without foreign passports, may not really be an issue in ESF schools. I know quite a lot of local families with HKSAR got P1 offers this year.

作者: sweetheartb 時間: 14-8-7 23:10 標題: 引用：Quote:sweetheartb+發表於+14-8-6+18:25+Th

原帖由 happymama2007 於 14-08-06 發表
ThanksWhat about CWBS?

Sorry I'm not very familiar with CWB but traditionally many non-locals study there and Abacus too. Not sure if this is still the case.

作者: SydneyC 時間: 14-8-16 23:03 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子

What's dc and rc? Thanks

作者: lui 時間: 14-8-17 09:51 標題: 回覆：SydneyC 的帖子

Private school of ESF , renaissiance college and discovery bay college

作者: edvilu 時間: 14-8-18 22:47 標題: 回覆：lui 的帖子

Is it worth to be k2 transfer student if no priority?

作者: pppwong 時間: 14-8-28 21:53 標題: 引用：去interview+(P1)+嗰陣，見到真係個個家長

原帖由 Sonaming 於 14-08-06 發表
去interview (P1) 嗰陣，見到真係個個家長都幾本passport , 但我地冇外國passport 都收左

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Hi, may I know where you send your kid for kindergarten? I heard its really hard to get even an interview chance for local passport holders

作者: 木子兔媽媽 時間: 14-8-28 23:41 標題: 回覆：pppwong 的帖子

No. We are hksar passport holders and no more. And our girl just accepted K1 by ESF hillside.

作者: ckml 時間: 14-8-29 14:07

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I also live in TKO and my boy now attends PG at Victoria. I have the same plan as you (attend ESF K). I know that there is a new Preschool in Yau Tong. Mills International Preschool (opened by Ms.HoTung) - not sure if there is any advantage ...

作者: happymama2007 時間: 14-8-29 14:11

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May I know who is Ms HoTung?
I also heard good comment on this school..

作者: ckml 時間: 14-8-29 15:54

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何柬 family ...

you mean that you have heard Mills ?

I attended their open day on 24/8 and I quite like the school (except the location - it is next to some industrial buildings - I have concern over the safety issue) ...

will you consider attending their PG and then apply ESF K ?

作者: Sonaming 時間: 14-8-29 22:19 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Sonaming+於+14-08-06+發表去

原帖由 pppwong 於 14-08-28 發表
Hi, may I know where you send your kid for kindergarten? I heard its really hard to get even an inte ...

anfield Kln tong

作者: siulumjing 時間: 14-8-30 07:54 標題: 回覆：本地人入ESF

Abacus and CWBS is 80% foreigners and remaining 20% local chinese, Korean, Japanese,Indians. Guess its because of the demographics that lots of foreigners live in the Sai Kung area.

作者: siulumjing 時間: 14-8-30 07:55 標題: 回覆：siulumjing 的帖子

To be more specific, foreigners =westerners

作者: pppwong 時間: 14-8-30 10:38 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+pppwong+於+14-08-28+發表Hi,

原帖由 Sonaming 於 14-08-29 發表
anfield Kln tong

Thanks. My kid is in the whampoa campus. Hope it leads him to that path!

作者: jk121299 時間: 14-9-20 16:10

If want to get in esf k1， which pn shoukd i get in？what are the chances for hk boy with foreign passport getting in esf k1？

作者: CapricornO 時間: 14-9-23 23:43

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作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-9-23 23:58

CapricornO 發表於 14-9-23 23:43
I read from the website that their selection basis for interview is "working through the list". Do ...

All Year 1 applications are placed initially on the waiting list, and then they will send out interview invitations by working through the list according to the priority categories, i.e. staff children, sibling, nomination right, alumni children, ESF kindergarten children etc, and within each category they will go by the random number drawn against each application. The interview itself is not difficult since they only verify English verbal skills, so it is true that if a child is invited to interview then the chances are high.

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