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作者: wiman 時間: 14-5-23 01:42 標題: HkA, CIS or australian intl好呢
我好想孩子讀IB，以前三間，請問怎衡量呢?那間教學、成績、學校風氣較優勝?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-23 09:54
Apply to all of course, because it is up to the school to choose students nowsdays for int'l schools in HK. AISHK uses the Australian curriculum, not IB, I believe, and many of their graduates go to Australuan universities. It is a good, well rounded school.
CIS & HKA are both academic strong schools with good student conduct (within the school). CIS of course has better Chinese, and the environment within is very competitive. If both schools accepts the child then it depends on the amount of Chinese you want your child to acquire, and where you want your child to go for University.
It also depends on the child himself/herself in terms of character fit. Australia more lively and out-going, CIS more compliant and hard-working, HKA for more well-to-do expat kids (I'm not as familiar with HKA).
作者: wiman 時間: 14-5-24 02:23
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Thx, Jolalee. Your opinion is very useful. Sometimes I feel struggled as Chinese is an important nowadays , studying in CIS seems is a better choice. But as heard, most students' families of this school are from upper class. Is it truth? If graduated from CIS, which universities do they get?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-24 13:31
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All the schools you've listed have wealthy families in them, esp HKA. However, CIS does accept some smart middle-class kids so you don't have to worry that everyone is super rich.
You can probably find out the list of Univerities they go to via the school (website or school visit), but basically all the top IS leads to good tertiary education. CIS does lead to some top UK & US Universities, but whether the kids has connections or parents donate to those top schools is another story. The same goes to all many top IS with well connected families in them, but the academic training there is sufficient for an intelligent child to go to a good Uni.
Given you asked about AISHK in particular, does your family have Australian priority?
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-24 15:20 標題: 回覆：HkA, CIS or australian intl好呢
If your child is neither Australian nor NZ passport holders basically it is impossible to get in Australian Intl School. I have heard that the school even does not have enough seats for the passport holders. And it runs Australian curriculum, not IB.
CIS and HKA are difficult to get in. I would suggest that if you are really determined to send your kid to an IB school, apply both schools. Bear in mind that CIS reception starts at the age of 4 while HKA starts at 3. Why don't you consider other IB schools? Given that it is really difficult to get in an international school nowadays, apply a few more schools for backup. Nobody knows what is the real chance of getting into a school due to keen competition
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-24 19:54
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If your child is neither Australian nor NZ passport holders basically it is impossible to get in Aus ...
A friend of mine only applied to 3, one didn't give her an interview and the other two put her twins on the waiting list (twins are extra hard), so now she has no choice but to keep them in the existing kindergarten. (thank goodness it is a great kindergarten). Still battling for a through-train spot....
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-24 20:35 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子
I have heard a few cases that some expats (real native speakers, caucasians) even cannot get a spot for a through train IS at reception level. Competition is really keen these days. We can be picky only when we can get several offers. Honestly speaking this is pathetic but this is the rule of the game these days
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-25 00:23
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Yup, was just talking to a mom (UK Caucasian) who was waitlisted for Kellet! Perhaps she applied too late because Kellet accepts applications from birth. I roam in that circle so i have seen enough cases myself (and honestly some Caucasians are not very well prepared). Those who are well prepared can usually get in many. A friend of mine, a Caucasian doctor, her son (blond) got into 5 schools, including GSIS & HKA. Envy!
Back to our topic of discussion. Training from birth is important. If you put my son into any expat circle (which he is already in) he would feel right at home; that's why he did well in all his interviews. Applying for HKA & AISHK would require such background, more or less.
CIS on the other hand allows interview using the child's strongest language, be it English/Mando/Canto. Heard quite a few cases where kids get in using Canto as their interview language. My son on the other hand is a native English speaker, so he needs to combat with the rest of the English speaking kids, and being Chinese by blood, that'd put him in a disadvantaged position.
作者: wiman 時間: 14-5-25 01:09
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Jolalee, you gave me a clear picture on considering them. My girl is now 3 years old. I know I was late to plan her on IB path. And she didnt hold a Australian passport so I think it is a very low chance to get in AIS. Another problem is my girl is not a native, we just keep to speak English at home. So is there any chance on CIS or HKA? Can u suggest which one we can try now? Is it worth to apply two to three schools and wait the chance?thx a kot
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-26 10:42
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Jolalee, you gave me a clear picture on considering them. My girl is now 3 year ...
Make sure your child has one strong core language. Children with a strong core language is capable in learning a 2nd language quickly (what experts call 'pegging'). My son's first language was English, and we rarely spoke to him in chinese between age 10 months to 2.5, and only few hours the afternoon between age 2.5-3.5. Now that i am speaking to him more in Chinese for just 2 months, his Chinese improved exponentially, thanks for his strong grasp of a core language.
CIS is always a try it if you can situation. Interview in Chinese if she English is not her native language. There's no edge for her to interview in English. HKA i am not certain about since we didn't apply.
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-26 10:56
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As I mentioned in previous thread, HKA starts its reception at age 3 while CIS starts at 4. Given your child is 3 years old already, it is too late to apply for HKA K1. You can apply K2 for next year or reception class of CIS next year. But bear in mind that HKA is a small school. They have only 40 students for each year. You can only get a chance for interview when somebody leaves the school after K1.
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-26 11:04
Seem like, of the 3 you want to apply, only CIS is possible now and it is the most popular with a low rate of success, so you need more options. HKIS is one and you can always try for Anfield, Kingston, Victoria. Last year I was so desperate I even out my son's name down for Anfield primary 1 in case he couldn't get into any reception. (Anfield go by app date; KG need no interview but I am sure p1 does).
作者: 7家嫂 時間: 14-5-26 12:31
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作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-26 14:42
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我有幾個問題 , 希望可以幫忙解答
1) 學校只接受出生日期兩年前才入申請表 , 一天也不能早 有點不明白 為何說遲了兩星期申請?
2) 請問你怎知道何時是第1輪面試呢?
We were applying for 2015 year of entry for Reception, so we submitted our application the first week of January 2013. My friend submitted hers in mid/late Jan 2013. We were fortunate to have obtained another school spot of our choice this March, so when AISHK contacted us in March/April we declined the interview offer. My friend called the school last month inquiring about the interview date (should happen this summer), only to find out the first round of interview invite has already gone out, and she is not part of it. Apparently for 2015 year of entry there are so many applicants submitting back in 2013 that they are only interviewing those who submitted their application the first two weeks of January. My friend probably missed it by a few days...
Of course, there's always a second round so she just have to wait for the school to contact her again, but we were just so surprised that even a January 2013 submission for 2015 year of entry couldn't make it to the first round of interview. I didn't want to write this out in detail for the fear of application next Jan will be even more crazy now that it is out in the open. I feel sorry for the school admission.
3) 我有朋友仔仔 , 遲了10個月才申請 , 錯過了Reception class 時間 , 不過學校叫補回成績表及學校信 , 便取錄了 (沒有面試) , 今年剛入學
When i called the school back in autumn of 2012, they told me if the child is Australian and you apply early then the chance is very high (so that's what i did, i didn't realize 'apply early' meant the first two weeks of Jan at the time, and i don't think the admin foresee the huge amount of applicants in 2013 for 2015 back in 2012). The admin seemed pretty relaxed back then. I have a feeling there's a huge jump in the number of applicants between 2014 & 2015 entry.
4) 據朋友所講 , 校內亦有少數學生不是有澳紐護照 , 但仍被取錄
Do they have other overseas passports? blc_mama is the one who said you must be Auz to get accepted, so you may ask her where she got that piece of info. Like CDNIS, it is just a matter of time (but not yet) when the school cannot interview ppl without priority due to the shear amount of applicants.... It is getting more and more crazy each year that i seriously consider if our family should have a 2nd child or not.
Then again, this is just a matter of application. Once you're in the loop it is really not as bad as it seem, and by vicious circle families now apply for 5-6 schools on average (some even more) so lots of spots gets released back into the system afterwards. For DBIS we held a queue number 175 in their nursery waiting list, and according to the school the chance of us getting in this year is very very slim (plus given we are not even Discovery Bay residents).... and then last week we received their offer 
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7家嫂 you asked some very good question that put everything in perspective 
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-26 14:59
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I just heard from some of my friends that AIS mostly admits students with AUS or NZ passports, probably in recent years the competition for IS is so keen. I have heard a case that even AUS passport holder could not get in to AIS, but of course we are not sure whether it is because the child could not pass the interview or there is a long queue which the school could not take in all passport holders or as Jolalee mentioned the parents submitted the application too late. I did not do much research in this school anyway because we are not AUS/NZ passport holders and thought the chance to get in is minimal.
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-26 16:08
Hm, at the end of the day, if you are keen on certain schools and the application fee of $2000+ is not an issue for your family, then why not try it. I was scared off by the admin of GSIS, hinting that applying at almost 2 years of age, the chance of my son getting in is non-existent. (GSIS accepts application from birth) In hind sight i think i should have applied anyway....
都係那句：試下可能仲有機會，唔試就一定冇機會。
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-26 17:31 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子
Apply now for K2 next year since they take 20 students for K1 and an additional of 20 students for K2. So K1 and K2 are of the highest chance to get in GSIS.
作者: 7家嫂 時間: 14-5-26 17:37
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作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-26 19:22
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I believe the first round of interview starts this summer, maybe June or August? Anyhow the admin told my friend to wait until August for the notification of 2nd round. This is easy info to obtain. All you need to do is to call the school, especially if your child is in the queue.
My son is born Nov 2010. He received notification for interview back in March, but we declined because he got into another IS which we prefer a bit more already.
作者: pandaforever 時間: 14-5-26 19:27 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子
hi jolalee I would like to ask you a question about AISHK. Is it difficult to join the school say in year 6 or 7? We are passport holders but live on HK island and the distance is too great assuming my son could get into the reception class. We are considering sending him to a nearby IS and let him sit for the AISHK entrance test when he's at an age where he could travel to the school by himself or at least with the home helper. Please comment on our plan. Our ultimate goal is for our son to be educated in the Australian Curriculum and continue higher education in Australia.
作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-26 20:59 標題: 引用：Quote:wiman+發表於+14-5-25+01:09+回覆+jo
原帖由 jolalee 於 14-05-26 發表
Given your girl is already 3, AISHK in my experience is a no go. You need to apply 2 years in advanc ...
May I ask if your Aussie friend's kid get into AISHK at last?
Why did I hear about some kids who didn't have to attend any interviews but can get a place?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-27 09:33
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My friend is waiting for the 2nd round interview, and the school will notify her in August. Given it is still May, it is 3 months in the future ;)
Re the case of getting in without school report and no interview, I've seen that one on this forum too. Honestly I don't work for AISHK and this school is not even one of our top choice, so we're just applying like everyone else and tell you what my friend and I experienced this year.
作者: blc_mama 時間: 14-5-27 09:57
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Why not give it a try if you really like GSIS? Of course, if you don't mind paying the $3k+ application fee and $4K+ assessment fee
You'll never know what will be the outcome if you don't try. 
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-27 10:05
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hi jolalee I would like to ask you a question about AISHK. Is it difficult to join the school say in ...
I'm Canadian & my hubby is Australian so for higher education we prefer Cdn or Auz as well. Given my husband's family are all back home whereas mine has all returned to HK, Auz University is a more viable option. However at this point we are looking at which school provide a better environment for our child and a wider possibility, that's why we chose the other IS for now.
Feel few to PM me for further discussion.
作者: 奶醬豬 時間: 14-5-27 10:44
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作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-27 14:47 標題: 引用：I+received+e-mail+fm+admission+office+la
原帖由 奶醬豬 於 14-05-27 發表
I received e-mail fm admission office last week regarding to call for interview on Reception class f ...
May I know which month in 2011 your girl was born? Is she applying for the reception of 2016 Jan?
I also applied in 2013 but I have not received any email...
作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-27 14:48 標題: 引用：回覆+bobolily+的帖子 My+friend+is+waiti
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My friend is waiting for the 2nd round interview, and the school will notify h ...
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-27 16:35
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Hello,
May I know which month in 2011 your girl was born? Is she applying for the reception of 2016 ...
Bobolily if you are applying for Reception 2016, then you need to submit your application January 2014. Which month did you apply back in 2013? I sure hope the school has accepted it as a Jan 2014 application. The best thing to do is to call the school to find out as soon as you can. At the moment the school must be busy with the 2015 admission, that's why you received no news yet. You are one year early 
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By reading what you previously said, I'm afraid I will be in the 2nd round interview next year as my application was not submitted on 2/1/2014.
作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-27 17:11 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+jolalee+於+14-5-27+16:36+編
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I submitted my application in mid jan 2014
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-27 22:34
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LOL with all your typos on the dates
2nd round of interview should not be too much of a problem, for I'm sure some will fail the first round. Just ensure that your child is well prepared for the interview. I will find out from my friend about her outcome in a few months. Remind me with a PM when it's time ;)
作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-28 00:03 標題: 引用：回覆+bobolily+的帖子 LOL+with+all+your+
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LOL with all your typos on the dates
Thanks so much for all your information. My boy is a bit shy, I'm trying my best to train him to be more outgoing and outspoken when meeting different or new people. Hope he will be ok when the time for interview comes 
作者: wiman 時間: 14-5-28 00:51
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Jolalee, u are so kind to share your experience to us. For me, if I started to apply IS now, which one u think still has chance as my girl now is 3 years old?can u share how to prepare for interview ?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-28 06:34
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Jolalee, u are so kind to share your experience to us. For me, if I started to ...
For other schools to apply to, see my post12#
發表於 前天 11:04 , and I forgot to add ESF primary to the list. Since you mentioned that Chinese is important to your family, do consider SIS & ISF. You may also look into IMS primary, but I'd only recommend this school for parents who believes in the Montessori system and preferably have their children Montessori trained in kindergarten. I am sure there are many other options beside these.
As a general rule, schools with the mass intake at K2 or P1 and only accepts application 1 year in advance are good options (or that the date of application date is not a considering factor as long as it is before the deadline). I assume your child is born in 2011, and that is before Sept 2011? (Since she's already 3 years old now) Most schools calculate the child's age of entry by either the calendar year [jan-Dec of the same year] or school year [Sept-Aug]. (AISHK is the odd one out due to the Auz calendar; you just have to check their website for their exact calculation] I just hope she is not born in sept-dec 2010 otherwise she have missed a large chunk of options.
Again, apply to 5-6 schools in hope of getting into 1. That's the rule of thumb. Study each school to decide which ones to apply. Go for a few "dream schools" but keep at least 2-3 easier options as backups. (But sometimes the easier ones turns out to be harder to get in, so good luck!)
For preparation just wondering if your family is doing one language per parent? That's the most ideal way for a child's multi-lingual language acquisition. Always stick to the language you've decided to speak, never do chingish (two language mixed within a conversation).
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-28 06:50
(For some reason the site does not allow me to edit the last paragraph or to continue to write, so apologies for some unchangeable grammar mistakes in the last paragraph and that I have to continue with a new post).
Beside English acquisition and basic kindergarten knowledge, they also look at (or look for) certain characters. Just make sure the child is well rounded, friendly and well brought up. For the sake of interview, of course ensure the child is compliant enough to do what the teachers ask her to do. The older they get, the more it is based on abilities & language skills. Hope this helps.
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1st round interview for 2016 Reception should be 2015 Jun. My daughter is Aussie and I submitted in ...
Did the staff told you your submission date is a bit late?
It's already 23 months before the beginning of academic year 2016?!
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-5-31 10:23
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Bobolily, it's the same question every AISHK applicant is wondering. I thought my friend would've made the first round of interview this summer with a mid-Jan 2013 application for 2015 Reception entry, but she didn't, so everyone is wondering which 2014 applications would make the first round of 2016 Reception entry interview next June, as in, how early is "early" when the school said "apply early"? (But it must not be earlier than 2 years prior to the year of entry)
I believe even if we call to ask the school today they wouldn't know yet either. From what I gathered the school would date chop all the applications they've received 2 years prior, and process it in March the year prior to the year of entry. (when some applicants like my family received offers from other schools and dropped the AISHK interview offer; smart & efficient timing to ensure those interviewing are still interested). For both Feipow and your cases, that'd be March next year.
Again, I wouldn't worry about making the first round or second round now that your applications are already being submitted. Just focus on getting the kids prepared so that they are ready to pass it, otherwise it wouldn't make a difference even if a child first in the queue ;) Good luck to you all!! Add oil!!
作者: bobolily 時間: 14-5-31 21:56 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+jolalee+於+14-5-31+10:28+編
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I think if the kid will have the chance to be interviewed, it doesn't matter it's the 1st or 2nd round. Making sure the kid is ready for the interview will be more practical.
Thanks for the tips and useful information.
Btw, would you mind sharing with me which school you have chosen for your kid in the end? Pls pm me if it's not that appropriate to tell everyone in public 
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