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作者: tumtum 時間: 14-2-26 15:53 標題: CIS university placement record
Today I heard a comment about CIS not really having a good placement record with US Ivy League universities. I wonder if it is true. Is that info available somewhere? I tried to look it up on the CIS website but don't think it is there, or maybe I had missed it.
作者: aidan08 時間: 14-2-26 16:04
我都想知，因為我亦係聽有家長咁講......我聽返嚟的唔係話Ivy League的placement唔好，係直情話整體來說入到英美好的大學也不是很多，很普通而已。這和我以前聽說的很不一樣......他們應該有很強的consultant團隊。
作者: hedonist 時間: 14-2-26 16:08 標題: 回覆：CIS university placement record
Actually, many liberal arts colleagues offer great undergraduate education, top ones are arguably even better than Ivy Leagues in undergraduate education, but much lesser known in Asia.
作者: hedonist 時間: 14-2-26 16:10 標題: 引用：Actually,+many+liberal+arts+colleagues+o
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Actually, many liberal arts colleagues offer great undergraduate education, top ones are arguably ev ...
auto-correction is awful sometimes.
作者: donut012 時間: 14-2-26 16:53 標題: 回覆：CIS university placement record
Here's the info
http://www.cis.edu.hk/programme/university-counselling/index.aspx
作者: cscsmlkyh 時間: 14-2-26 19:06
Their students always do pretty good, I personally know two girls went to , one is admitted to MIT and the other one to georgetown
作者: pattyshukla 時間: 14-2-26 20:21
The university placement is actually better than eg hkis or some of the best local schools already. In order to get into Ivy leagues, it's better to study abroad in US top high schools.
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-2-27 13:31
Don't forget, parents of kids in CIS probably has connections to certain Universities aboard, so one must take that into account as well.
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 14-2-27 13:38
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 14-2-27 14:02 編輯
美國好的大學, 大部份不考慮IB, 報親美國大學都考SAT
好多學生, 自己考SAT ,去報
另外, 美國 將香港與大陸學生, 一齊看
97前, 2個地方, 分開計限額
而家2個地方的限額,一齊看, 令競爭加大
入頂尖大學頂尖的科已幾乎不可能咁濟
俾你入到美國頂尖大學, 多數都係2線科
一線科, 無份
美國大學, 俾英國較多的限額
所以在美國, 或英國讀高中
再報美國頂尖大學
比在香港讀書報容易得多
我舉例
一個ISF 小朋友考入princeton , 當時讀studies
人地話睇, 是昆你
作者: caa 時間: 14-2-27 14:07
HIHinsurance 發表於 14-2-27 13:38 
美國好的大學, 大部份不考慮IB, 報親美國大學都考SAT
好多學生, 自己考SAT ,去報
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 14-2-27 14:16
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http://www.isf.edu.hk/en/2013/07/the-isf-academy-second-cohort-of-ib-diploma-students-celebrates-another-set-of-excellent-results/
maths studies
作者: caa 時間: 14-2-27 14:41
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Do you mean that IB is useless in application of US universities? And is math studies considered too easy and useless?
作者: poonseelai 時間: 14-2-27 20:48
HIHinsurance 發表於 14-2-27 13:38
美國好的大學, 大部份不考慮IB, 報親美國大學都考SAT
好多學生, 自己考SAT ,去報
作者: simonlawht 時間: 14-3-2 15:04
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作者: annie40 時間: 14-3-2 15:45
人家孩子是否最終入讀那所名校，查來干啥？
管他進得了，進不了，我家孩子正在攪邊科才重要嘛！
作者: simonlawht 時間: 14-3-2 16:01
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作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-3-2 21:56
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Don't think that is what he meant. He was referring to subject selection/importance of IB.
I wouldn't put much weight on what he said anyway. People get admitted into colleges/universities and not majors. 1線科 vs 2線科 is nonsense.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-3-2 23:24
US college admission is as mysterious as any decision made by any cabinet of any government.
If you are not US passport or Green Card holder, you need to be those top 5 students in your country for admission to the top 3 Ivies. If you are an US citizen or holder of green card, you are competing with others US citizens for the 92 percent (approximately) of the available spaces. Ivies are known to admit about 8 percent of foreign students.
作者: simonlawht 時間: 14-3-3 16:20
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作者: ACE2126 時間: 14-3-3 17:46
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-3 19:31 標題: 引用：US++college+admission+is+as+mysterious+a
原帖由 Shootastar 於 14-03-02 發表
US college admission is as mysterious as any decision made by any cabinet of any government.
If yo ...
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-3 20:18
ACE2126,
Wow! You know Deep Springs College. I have never heard of this college until 2 top CIS students decided to go there for 2 consecutive years.
The student admitted in 2012 had turned down Oxford, Princeton... to go there!
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-3 20:22
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He is talented in many ways, academically, extra-curricular activities, leadership, philosopy. He is a legend wherever he goes.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-3 20:48
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If you are interested to learn more about the boy and the college, search "Kowloon Cowboy" in google. There is a SCMP post on the topic.
作者: caa 時間: 14-3-3 21:51
foolish.mom 發表於 14-3-3 20:48
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If you are interested to learn more about the boy and the college, search " ...
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-3 21:54
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He studied in Yew Chung International and Chinese International School according to the SCMP article.
作者: caa 時間: 14-3-3 22:07
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Amazed that HK does have young one with this quality of thinking
作者: ACE2126 時間: 14-3-3 22:53
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作者: ultravox 時間: 14-3-4 10:33
ANChan59 發表於 14-3-3 19:31
Many parents overlooked the citizenship issue, which really make the difference more than the SAT or ...
So what happens to those kids with US Citizenship and studying in an International School in Hong Kong, are they still counted as foreign students or US students?
My kid is in year 9 and sitting for IGCSE this year and next. Then he will take IB Dip in year 10 and 11. We plan to have him take a trial test in SAT or ACT this summer to see which one suits him best. I heard some say mid-West prefer ACT and East/West coast prefer SAT. Any insights? thanks.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-4 10:38 標題: 引用：Quote:ANChan59+發表於+14-3-3+19:31+Many+
原帖由 ultravox 於 14-03-04 發表
Dear ANChan59
So what happens to those kids with US Citizenship and studying in an International Sch ...
I don't have experience about ACT, I am not in a position to comment.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-3-4 11:18
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My kids took both ACT and SAT
My son's SAT's score was better than his ACT. So he used his SAT score to make application. He had 2 offers from top 25 colleges.
My daughter also took ACT and SAT. Her ACT score was better than his SAT score. So she used her ACT score to make applications to US colleges. She received 7 offers from US colleges.
There is a concordance chart in respect of the score of SAT and ACT score. By checking the concordance chart (easily obtained through web search), you will know which score is better. You then make use the better score to make the applications. As far as I know, ACT or SAT is only one of the factors taken into consideration and there is no preference of either scores (so long as the college in question accepts either score).
作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-3-4 11:32
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So what happens to those kids with US Citizenship and studying in an International School in Hong Kong, are they still counted as foreign students or US students?
So long as you are a holder of US passport or Green Card, your application will be considered as a domestic application and the competition is for the quota available for US citizens. Top US colleges usually admit 7% to 10% foreign students each year. In recent years, Stanford, MIT, Harvard, Yale or Princeton admitted around 7% to 8% percent foreign students each year. In other words, each of them admitted around or less than 150 foreign students. It follows that the chance of a foreign student being admitted is not quite low. You need to be one of the top students in your own country / district.
My kid is in year 9 and sitting for IGCSE this year and next. Then he will take IB Dip in year 10 and 11. We plan to have him take a trial test in SAT or ACT this summer to see which one suits him best. I heard some say mid-West prefer ACT and East/West coast prefer SAT. Any insights? thanks.
Unless you want to apply for scholarship program, it is inadvisable to put the kids to try the SAT or ACT by the end of Grade 10 or Year 10. All the scores previously attempted will be reported to the colleges. The good strategy is to take the SAT or ACT in May or June of Grade 11 or Year 11 (or Year 12, if you need to study Year 13). If needed, you will make a further attempt in September or October. Counselors would not suggest a student to take SAT or ACT for more than 3 attempts. For SAT subject tests, the students will take once they complete the subject in that year. The reason for not taking the SAT or ACT by the end of Grade 10 is obvious. You are testing against Grade 11 or Grade 12 students. Their knowledge, verbal skills, math knowledge and (most important) the writing skills are better than Grade 10 students.
作者: ultravox 時間: 14-3-4 16:28
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Thanks so much for the advice. I thought SAT scores before he turns 16 will not be counted in his official transcript, not sure if this is still the case.
Also if he takes IB Dip in year 10 and 11 (e.g. Chem HL and Physics HL), does he still need to take AP exams? Not sure if IBM and AP are comparable. Thanks again.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-3-4 16:48
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I thought SAT scores before he turns 16 will not be counted in his official transcript, not sure if this is still the case.
There is a "no report" option available to the student. You can ask Collegeboard not to send the score of a particular test to the colleges. However, the most prestigious colleges would ask you to supply the scores of all SAT or ACT you take. I have not heard that before 16 his score would not be counted in his official transcript. If you take the PSAT (preliminary SAT) for testing, it is not reported to any college, It is reported to the students only. PSAT is usually taken by Grade 10 students.
Also if he takes IB Dip in year 10 and 11 (e.g. Chem HL and Physics HL), does he still need to take AP exams? Not sure if IBM and AP are comparable. Thanks again.
I am not familiar with IB syllabus but would think that there should be difference in the syllabuses of IB and AP.
IB scores are well recognised by most (if not all) colleges including Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Chicago, CIT, Northwestern, Wash U at St, Louis, etc, there is no need to take the AP examinations. However, if you are confident to take the AP exam and obtain good score, there is no harm for you to do so. For AP, you are free to report to college or not. They are not (as opposed to SAT and SAT subjects) compulsory for admission purpose. AP scores are used along with other indicators of your readiness for colleges.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-4 17:09
ultravox,
Top US universities require at least 2 SAT subject tests or AP. SAT reasoning test and IB cannot substitute for the SAT subject tests or AP.
作者: caa 時間: 14-3-4 18:01
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Do you think there are any advantages taking IB for US universities? Do the students need to take extra SAT tutoring besides IB learning at school?
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-4 19:09
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Personally, I don't think an IB school has advantage over traditional US curriculum school in applying to US top universities. For example, SAT reasoning test emphasizes a great deal of vocabulary, and IB emphasizes analysis and critical thinking, while US based schools are strong at building SAT vocabulary.
Usually IB students need certain amount of drilling to prepare for SAT reasoning: self study, practice with mock exam kit, or prep at tutoring centres. Whether IB students need to do additional preparation on SAT subject tests depends on the academic level of individual students, i.e. subject tests do find out something about the student quality in certain subjects.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-3-4 19:28
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You may also be aware that US universities give unconditional offer on the basis of internal transcript grades and expected IB grades given by the school. The US universities don't care the actual IB grades taken at the real IB exam, as the offer has been given way before the exam. So I think the universities care more about whether the student is at the top x% of the school, and the SAT reasoning and subject test marks. Whether the expected % is top 1% or top 5% depends on the reputation of the school. It's just my personal opinion.
作者: caa 時間: 14-3-4 21:40
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Thanks a lot for your valuable advice. Since predicted grades and school results are considered, do you think US universities take into account reputation and history of the secondary schools?
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