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作者: broadband 時間: 14-2-23 23:23 標題: what should I do?
My daughter is a P3 student of an elite local school. Her class teacher has suggested us to send her to an IS. She said it's a waste for her to stay in LS because she likes exploring. LS school cannot gives what she need to her.
作者: chowbeanbeanchu 時間: 14-2-23 23:27
Ask your LS teacher to refer your daughter
作者: picture 時間: 14-2-24 09:56 標題: 回覆：what should I do?
Better switch early than erode her interest in learning and curiosity in local stream
作者: broadband 時間: 14-2-24 13:14
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Is there any parents, who has kids in higher grade of IS, can tell me the pros and cons of studying in IS?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 14-2-24 16:38
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The major concern is the level of "Chinese". However, your girl would benefit a lot from new environment!
作者: broadband 時間: 14-2-24 22:59 標題: 回覆：Radiomama 的帖子
I only know that IS students read a lot but my kid also read a lot. Kids in IS is free. Someone says IS kids play a lot during class. Some of them may base on the games to search for more knowledge but others just treat it as a game and waste time. Are these true?
作者: torunpoland 時間: 14-2-25 01:09
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But is your daughter doing fine in the school, isn't she? Or has she already acted out?
To switch to another stream is an option which might help, or it mightn't. You may need to dig down to see if actually her interested is faded out.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 14-2-25 08:25 標題: 引用：I+only+know+that+IS+students+read+a+lot+
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I only know that IS students read a lot but my kid also read a lot. Kids in IS is free. Someone says ...
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作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-2 16:07 標題: 回覆：ckwliu 的帖子
好多謝大家的意見。
一直以來，我都認為IS只是主張多看書，由小朋友自由發揮創意。但囡囡已很喜歡看書，而且自小便既creative又presentable，這已可達到接近入讀IS的效果。至於創意教育，實在太虛無。就好像創意畫室給小朋友畫具，便讓小朋友自由創作。那與在家自己畫畫又有什麼分別呢？而在傳統學校便可學習到勤奮，紀律和扎實的學術知識。再加上，IS雖然有部分學生進入了很出名的大學外，而那些學生可能是家裏有強大教育資源及背景做後盾的。君不見，那些富豪的子孫很多都是長春藤或牛劍出品。我們這些平民百姓只會像大部分的IS學生進入普通的大學。但是，以前很多進不了本地大學的同學，在外國讀一兩年預備班便可進入外國中上的大學了。這給我的感覺是：香港差的學生也可達到外國或國際學校中上的水平。而且現在也有好些西方國家在向中港的教育取經。那似乎讀LS更有保障。而且，學好中文是大勢所趨。另一方面，聽聞的IS學生放任及吸毒問題在傳統名女校似乎不會發生。而且，囡囡的性格外向，喜歡與男仔玩。如讀IS，應該很早便拍拖。以上總總，讓我把她送進頗有名氣的LS而非IS。其實，我並沒有相熟的朋友讀IS, 這些觀感只是道聽途說而來。並不想冒犯這裡的任何人。我的這些觀點是否有錯呢？請指正。
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-3-2 16:44
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以上總總，讓我把她送進頗有名氣的LS而非IS...
From your first post, it seems the doubt was raised by a somewhat casual remark from a teacher who said "it is a waste for your child to stay in LS", it may be more productive to ask that teacher to elaborate, may be she could even give you some specific recommendations.
People here could only give you general comments, in fact if you do a search you'll find many more "LS versus IS" type posts, but I don't think you'll find anything in them that you don't already know.
作者: picture 時間: 14-3-2 21:06
" it's a waste for her to stay in LS because she likes exploring.""
Sounds like your daughter is doing brilliantly in current LS.
But calling it a waste? Does the teacher imply she could achieve much more in IS?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-3-2 22:27
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一直以來，我都認為IS只是主張多看書，由小朋友自由發揮創意。...
I think your quote above is mainly referring ESF schools. When it comes to IS, a UK curriculum can look very different from an American or an IB one. IS comes in a spectrum as wide as various types of LS, such as St. Paul Co-Ed vs. DGS vs. CKY. For example, my boy mainly goes to a Montessori kindergarten but also attends ESF. The contrast between the two schools is so stark that although they both seem very 'free' schools, they do crank out very different kids. Further research can help you find out more if you really have the intention to look into putting your girl in one.
作者: lui 時間: 14-3-2 22:43 標題: 引用：好多謝大家的意見。
一直以來，我都認為IS
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好多謝大家的意見。
一直以來，我都認為IS只是主張多看書，由小朋友自由發揮創意。但囡囡已很喜歡看書，而 ...
Is同外國的學校是教你怎去學習，找答案，而不是spoon feed你知識，並不是你所說的自由發揮，人家是有curriculum 啊。看你完全沒有準備下問這些問題，而且很主觀，又不去做school visit.IS 從頭到尾也不是你那杯茶
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-3-2 22:55
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" it's a waste for her to stay in LS because she likes exploring."
This reminds me of a conversation i had with another mother just yesterday:
The mother has two intelligent boys and her younger one attended Kentville (根德園) for kindergarten. At that time he was a shining star; the teachers loved him because he was so smart, but at the same time he could never sit still and couldn't help 'bothering' other kids. For primary school he followed his elder brother's footstep and went to a super traditional school on the HK Island side. Since he was loud and jumpy, the teacher focused on 'keeping him in line', and in the process quenched his desire for learning. Although he was then transferred to a freer high school, the mother told me it was already too late. The young man is now 19 years old and refuses to go to college. The mom is not worried as he has a head full of ideas and she is sure he will do well. However, she does regret not putting him in an International school back then and said that she would definitely do so if she could only turn back the clock...
The point of mentioning the chance conversation above is to make sure, that the teacher who gave the above statement in regards to your daughter is not hinting at any possible problem. Is your daughter finding school boring? Is she in trouble with anything in certain ways that is hindering her motivation to learn? I think it is important to find out the reason behind the statement in order to determine what really needs to be done about it.
Like yourself, i have a lively and creative child. Even though I have determined from day one to place him in an International School setting, i am still struggling whether to put him where he fits well (IB setting) or a more disciplined environment to balance him out (UK or similar curriculum). This is not an easy decision and probably no right & wrong answer either. Anyhow, with the limited good IS options for primary entry, i'd be lucky if he gets into a good IS that we like anyhow. This decision will probably be determined for me by the lack of options 
All the best in your research and decisions!!
作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-7 15:19
囡囡性格活潑，交際能力高，很受老師和同學歡迎。她說很多同學仰慕她，而且有太多朋友不知與誰玩。除了她不喜歡的中文及中文字艱深的常識外，其他科她都讀得很好。這兩年幾來，她在LS讀得還是挺開心的。
由細到大，很多朋友，家長同老師都讚她是叻女。有一次interview完一間有名氣的活動教學小學，校長還說我們很幸運“生了個咁叻既女“。也曾有一心理學家說她是一匹千里馬，如有一個伯樂，她將才華出眾。但我都沒有把那些說話放在心上。我一直認為她是有些小聰明，但她也很會表現自己，是俗話說的"識少少扮代表"的人。這次，相處半年的老師說如不送她進IS是浪費了她，LS不能給予她所需要的。令我又重新思考IS是否更適合她。在徵詢過其他老師的意見後, 她們都認為她好發問, 喜歡尋根究底及表達意見. 而且見解獨特. IS的學習方式適合她.
事實上，她不喜歡傳統學校的單向學習。而且她不是會勤力操練及認真記億來溫習的學生。加上她的粗心大意及容易緊張。可以預見，如她一直在LS讀上去，到考大學時並不會有很好的成績。
其實要我推翻自己一直以來對IS的看法, 重新考慮給囡囡讀IS, 真的很困擾，請大家給我一些意見。
作者: caa 時間: 14-3-7 15:41
Majority of is graduates further university education overseas. You may need to consider where you want your daughter to end up to be.
Btw, not sure which elite local school your daughter is now in, top IS all have waiting lists and it is not as easy to enter as one casually wishes
作者: himching 時間: 14-3-7 16:21
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"另一方面，聽聞的IS學生放任及吸毒問題在傳統名女校似乎不會發生。" ==> 應該係IS 肯直接面對, LS 鍾意收埋, 驚死影響校譽. 之前驗毒計畫俾一班要面子"教育"人士破壞晒, 正PK.
"而且，囡囡的性格外向，喜歡與男仔玩。如讀IS，應該很早便拍拖。" ==> 應該係性格, 係LS定IS 都冇關係.
係LS 及所謂傳統女校選擇時, 男女關係都係我重要考慮, 結果選LS, 因為現今開放型社會, 除個人能力外, 社交及人際關係特別是男女相處之道, 對個人整體性格健康成長都好重要. 我個人不反對早拍拖, 只要明白"底線"便可.
作者: himching 時間: 14-3-7 16:23
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囡囡性格活潑，交際能力高，很受老師和同學歡迎。她說很多同學仰慕她，而且有太多朋友不知與誰玩。除了她不 ...
作者: oooray 時間: 14-3-7 16:34
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我覺得你應該信自己感覺多d；你係最清楚你個女的 人。其他老師/專家對你個女時間有限；冇理由人地一句就改變你(and你個女)一生?如果出年LS個老師叫你個女出國留學你又煩下去定唔去?
你擔心IS的問題完全合理；到中學絕對有機會遇到；
還有；LS跟IS要求好唔同；你說今天你個女係LS 萬千寵愛集一身 and proud of 的東西；過到去IS可能一文不值；
換句話說；；你同你個女或會有從天上跌落凡間的感覺。你可否接受?
個人意見 : 做個LS家長適合你多d。
作者: ckwliu 時間: 14-3-7 18:12 標題: 回覆：what should I do?
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作者: munich 時間: 14-3-7 18:23 標題: 引用：After+reading+all+your+replies,+I+really
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After reading all your replies, I really have a strong feeling that you should not put your girl int ...
作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-8 00:29 標題: 回覆：munich 的帖子
其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀IS。我在這裡誠心向IS家長徵詢，是希望證明自己的看法錯誤，那我便可放心讓囡囡報讀IS。
另一方面，現在IS開得如雨後春筍。但是願意千里迢迢來香港教學的好老師便會變得僧多粥少。那麼，IS的教育質素還有保證嗎？為什麼那麼多IS的香港學生在中學時到外國讀BOARDING SCHOOL？
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-3-8 00:40
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願意千里迢迢來香港教學的好老師便會變得僧多粥少 ...
You'll be surprised how many foreigners are more than willing to come.
Put it this way, if a company in New York / London / Paris / Rome / (name your favourite foreign city) were to offer you a job with housing and education allowance for your children, would you not go?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 14-3-8 00:49 標題: 回覆：broadband 的帖子
老實説，不愛一個人時，你可以在他身上找100個缺點；愛一個人時，就算父母也攔阻不了你的選擇。
IS or LS都有適合或不適合，IS也有不同學制和成績，選一兩間直接參觀和試考插班試吧。「莫道你在選擇人，人亦在選擇你。」心儀的IS若取録女女，試試無妨。
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-3-8 01:04
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The answer is staring you in the face. Pretty obvious what the right answer is. You, on the other hand, should spend more time learning about IS and start applying.
作者: type409 時間: 14-3-8 01:10 標題: 引用：其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀
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其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀IS。我在這裡誠心向IS家長徵詢，是希望證明自己的看法錯誤，那我 ...
Answer is simple. Because IS parents wld not give a vote to universities in HK, obviously. For my case, a minor reason is my kid cannot communicate fluently in Cantonese which I believe is a disadvantage. The world is big. Young people should go out and explore.
So, this is a reason why IS students wld go abroad since secondary - learn to be independent and get prepare for university.
If you have doubt in quality of some IS teachers, I guess IS parents not only have doubt in LS teachers but the whole system.
作者: onetofour 時間: 14-3-8 02:25 標題: 回覆：what should I do
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作者: jolalee 時間: 14-3-8 04:00
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其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀IS。我在這裡誠心向IS家長徵詢，是希望證明自己的看法錯誤 ...
很欣賞你嘗試放下自己固有看法來配合你女兒的成長。
This is a good start, but doesn't mean the future path will be easy, especially since currently your child seem to do well in her school. Ultimately your family can only choose one path, and live with all its consequences (either way), and may never know what would've happen if you choose the other.
Given you are genuinely thinking of switching your child over, there is a few heads up which your family may encounter if you decide to change system now: (given she gets into a good, genuine IS)
1. Initially your girl may be socially rejected. I heard from other parents that existing IS kids may say nasty things like "you don't belong here" to kids switching from LS. Although your child is outgoing and sociable, i believe she has been socializing in Chinese? The playground language in IS is English, and so is the culture. What they read, watch and do on weekends may be quite different from one another. Kids are human, and there are both the nice and the nasty. She will need to rise above any negative treatment and move on. Unlike most parents here who has their kids growing up in an IS environment, LS family switching over may take some adapting, sorta like moving to a foreign country.
2. Parental adjustment could be devastating. Depending on the IS you choose, there may be very little homework and 'academic improvement' on your child immediately. Many parents from local families complain to the school and ask the teachers to give their kids additional exercises. That's monstrous. When in Rome, please do as the Romans.
3. Once she adapts, there may be social gap between herself and the family. As mentioned above, the social culture is quite different from the locals. I did hear about kids who refuse to go to family meals (with relatives and/or friends) since they cannot participate holistically in the conversations. I think you child's case should be a bit better, since she has been growing up in a Canto environment until now. Age 8-12 is a good time to switch her over without losing her roots (or her Chinese accent, unfortunately).
All in all, find a good school that fits her, not just any IS. If you don't mind, I shall PM you on that.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-3-8 08:25 標題: 引用：其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀
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其實，這幾年來我也覺得囡囡的性格較適合讀IS。我在這裡誠心向IS家長徵詢，是希望證明自己的看法錯誤，那我 ...
小女和你的女兒應該有點像。她多野講，多問題，活潑，好動。她曾讀薄有名氣的傳統本地小學。成績不錯，但家長日永遠是老師投訴她多咀，堂上攪笑，出位，條裙不合規格等等。我地兩公婆的性情也不是這樣的。我們如何教導也無補於事。
我唔肯定這係咪她的性情，我唔肯定她是否只需要多點時間成長。將來的事不能預料，但我決定比D空間佢。
另一個原因是她以前的本地學校功課測考太多。長期在作戰狀態，不能享受學習。
她轉了lS後非常非常開心。放假多過幾日便說想念同學，老師。她和班上大部分同學，甚至隔離班也甚老友。她參加各種活動，非常充實。她學校其實功課不少，但全不是做練習之類。全是研究，文章，文學，present,加點數學等等。這些東西你做半小時又得，三小時又得。女兒做甚麼也非常投入，功課也一樣。
每次家長會，我和老師（十幾位）獨立傾談。差不多所有老師也認為女兒的活潑好動，開郎，幽默的情格是優點。雖然有好幾位說如果她堂上專注點，學習會比現在好。我好欣賞每位老師知道女兒的優缺點，我好欣賞學校和老師尊重孩子的獨特性，因材施教。其實她一年比一年成熟，漸漸能多一點收放自如。可能她要的，正是時間長大。在本地學校最缺乏的，就是時間。
唔知幾時，我明白到是甚麼回事。 Our lS is not trying to force my child into someone she is not. The school help parents and herself discover her strength and weaknesses, discover who she really is, where her passion lies and how best to develop her potential. I almost let out a tear when one teacher said to me don't worry, the traits that are causing some trouble right now is going to be her strength in the future. She definitely is a people person.
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作者: Shummamapapa 時間: 14-3-8 10:54 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+broadband+於+14-03-08+發表
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讓我過來人分享下。
小女和你的女兒應該有點像。她多野講，多問題，活潑，好動。她曾讀薄有名氣的傳統本 ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-3-8 11:30 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+shadeslayer+於+14-03-08+發
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I really appreciate your sharing. I shared the same worries. My son will go to IS and hopefully it i ...
I am not comparing LS and IS categorically. You have to do your own research well and get into a good school, a school that fits the needs of your child, be it a LS or IS.
加油。
作者: Shummamapapa 時間: 14-3-8 11:45 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Shummamapapa+於+14-03-08+發
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A choice has different implications at different times. All I know is that my girl is very happy now ...
作者: ngwy 時間: 14-3-8 11:58 標題: 回覆：what should I do?
Boardband入IS不是容易的，小朋友的英語要達到English as first language ,LS差的學生很難成為lS的好學生，他們連進入的機會都未必有，不是社交能力好，創意力強就能進入，所以還是有lS收你的女兒才煩吧!
作者: oooray 時間: 14-3-8 13:41
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Actions speak louder than words. 咁多家長比左咁多意見而你仍然三心兩意no actions talk only的話，係嘥氣。正如有家長話，P3去報隨時排三兩年都未必有消息，到你真係過左interview，人地叫你交學費先再煩過，但如果今天報名費你都未決定比定唔比，咁請你慢慢再考慮下先啦！
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作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-8 23:16 標題: 回覆：ACE2126 的帖子
好多謝大家給我那麼多正能量。其實，我們的鄰居差不多有一半是外國人。除了同學外，囡囡最好的玩伴是兩個外國男孩，其中一個的爸媽以前是在hong kong academy教書的。但他們到其他國家任教了。所以囡囡如到IS讀書，絕對不會有與另一世界的人相處的問題。
一直以來，我們是計畫讓她讀到中學後期才到英美讀一兩中學，再考當地大學，然後回港發展的。但是，她太細膽，可能不敢離開我們獨自到外國讀書。
至於他爸爸，我說LS好他便說讀LS，老師說IS適合囡囡，他便贊成我提出的轉讀IS。他完全不做研究及分析，所以我便要承擔這重任。而最煩惱的是囡囡的能力正逐漸顯露中，在LS讀得很有自信，很開心，也得到老師的重視和同學的認同。雖然以英文寫詩，寫故事，自己設計各類文稿是她最喜歡的，但她比原IS的學生遲了幾年開始西方教學模式，她可能會因落後而放棄自己。她的缺點是遇錯折便退縮。正如先前有網友提醒會有這風險。
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-3-9 00:03
broadband 發表於 14-3-8 23:16
至於他爸爸，我說LS好他便說讀LS，老師說IS適合囡囡，他便贊成我提出的轉讀IS。他完全不做研究及分析，所以我便要承擔這重任。而最煩惱的是囡囡的能力正逐漸顯露中，在LS讀得很有自信，很開心... 但她比原IS的學生遲了幾年開始西方教學模式，她可能會因落後而放棄自己。她的缺點是遇錯折便退縮。...
As to overcoming possible transition issues, it could be good life lessons. As a primary school child, I personally had gone through language barriers, system adaption issues and discrimination (with threats of violence) in another country when my family emigrated from HK. After two years i thrived, found my strengths & talents, and increasing love to study. What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger ;) Transition problems (if any), is short term, but the desire to learn and create, that's life long benefits.
作者: Butterfly927 時間: 14-3-9 04:18
I think the most crucial part is you. Don't mean to sound offensive, you sound quite a traditional mother. I switched from St. Paul to IS when I was in secondary school. For me, I had the best education years in IS, it broadened my international mindset and social skills, my parents didn't have to worry about my homework ever. While I was having the time of my life, doing so great at school, my mother on the other hand was getting more and more depressed, getting very paranoid easily. You have to be a certain type of cool mom to brew a confident girl. LS is your security blanket, once you let it go, will you loose your mind and put your relationship with your girl in jeopardy? Well said that she might be ready for the international gateway, but are you? Will you be the one pulling her back?
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-3-9 17:07 標題: 回覆：Butterfly927 的帖子
Well said. If the parents mindset is not in tune with the particular IS (or any school) it is not going to the happily-ever-after ending.
作者: alpham0m 時間: 14-3-9 17:12
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If your girl is thriving where she is and you are very happy with the current school, why even bother? If nothing is wrong, why fix it? Just because a teacher said something that might be or might not be true? I would actually talk to that teacher in more detail and verify what she meant before I go on any further...
作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-10 10:04
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Hi Butterfly927, 你說得一點也沒錯, 我是一個很保守, 不想冒險的人, 而且也很喜歡當年讀書時的傳統教學. 活動教學絕對不適合我. 我問了囡囡, 她說最喜歡老師問問題與小組討論及遊戲教學時間. 而且她一直都是組長. 但她不想離開現在的老師及同學.
由於我對IS的教學模式不熟悉. 請你告訴我你們以前是怎樣上課的.
作者: Butterfly927 時間: 14-3-12 11:50
If that's the case, let's think your options through.
If your girl stays in LS:
She will be happy to be where ever she is at now and you will feel contented and secure, because you think she is on the "right track". You may wonder from time to time "what if she is in IS". BUT i think it wouldn't be a major problem to handle your "what if"s. She might end up in one of the universities in HK, graduate and get a job? Be a 中產?
If your girl switches to IS:
She will go through at least 6 months of culture shock (I know she hangs around with westerner sometimes, but being in a school environment is a whole different story). This stage is a major step for her to step out of her comfort zone and learn how to deal with the international stage. The mother on the other hand will have to get prepared for her transformation. Your concern shouldn't be "IS的教學模式", you have to get prepared with your daughter's personality transformation. Would you go nuts if a boy calls her for project discussion or something more? What if you notice her skirt got shorter than before? (wearing short skirt doesn't mean you are a slut, it just LS skirt lengths have to be below knees, well, that doesn't look very smart and fashionable honestly, and IT IS DORKY) Trust me, in my days, my mother and I argued endlessly about my skirt's length and it was soooo tiring and disturbing for me and for her. So get prepared for all these side issues other than education! You won't have to worry about her education in IS. The friends I hanged around with back then, went the Cambridge, Yale and Oxford. (I was forced to go back to St. Paul's and it was a disaster, well that's another story. I hope your daughter won't have to go through what I had been through...)
Now I have a 2 year daughter and I will definitely throw her into the international school system. I want to encourage her to walk out of her comfort zone, experience the world, be able to get along with different nationalities, understand and respect cultures. She doesn't always have to be within my security zone, I would want her to be better and go further than I am able to be.
I don't have a definitely answer for you because it is your life. Hope my advice can help your family.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 14-3-12 13:52
You also might go nuts with her not having much homework, playing all the time, during primary school years. There is nothing much to really help you gauge what she has learnt, her standing in her class.....etc.
By the time she goes to secondary school, things starting to get very busy for her, and you might feel frustrated not being able to help her with her school works - they are mostly writings, projects, research, field trips.....etc.
But in return, you will see that everything will come together in her studies in secondary school, say at grade 9 onwards. And her aspirations would lead her to aim at the very top universities, instead of just universities in Hong Kong. Or for some, they discover the beauty of liberal arts colleges, Then you have to go through the soul searching of "what the heck is Liberal Arts?", "Why go to Pomona College when she is also accepted to Princeton?" And if she gets accepted to a very top schoool overseas, you then have to worry where to come up with the money to send her there, because she would be very disappointed if she cannot go there.
Oh, sorry, I am only painting the best scenario to you. But think about this: "The brave ones take the Road Less Travelled."
作者: broadband 時間: 14-3-12 23:05 標題: 回覆：Fatrara 的帖子
哈哈，其實我不是你們想像的保守傳統女人。反而是我老公會接受不了女兒的裙太短，他現在已整天說我買給囡囡的裙太短。
由於我很少熟朋友本人或子女讀過IS，所以可能有很多事情其他IS家長會做而我們便不懂，可能會令囡囡比其他同學遜色。這也是另一令我猶豫的原因。對於她現在的學習，我只會在她需要時出手相助，絕對不認為陪她一起讀書或整天補習對長遠的學習有用。有人笑我，連IS的學生都整天在操練公文或補習，你這個LS反而不做。
如果囡囡在IS的發展是你們說的那樣，我會很慶幸。但我最怕的是她只顧拍拖，食烟，落吧，不認真讀書，無所事事甚至吸毒。這些只是我的想像。不如大家說說中下的IS學生會是怎樣的。如她可做中上的，我已經很滿意。相信她不會是最差的，但做中下的，機會也很大。
作者: Fatrara 時間: 14-3-13 14:02
broadband: "但我最怕的是她只顧拍拖，食烟，落吧，不認真讀書，無所事事甚至吸毒。這些只是我的想像。不如大家說說中下的IS學生會是怎樣的。如她可做中上的，我已經很滿意。相信她不會是最差的，但做中下的，機會也很大。"
Your worries are justified. But then there is no gaurantee in life. Can you gaurantee your daughter will not pick up vices growing up in local schools, even the most prestigious ones?
Personal opinion: I think how well kids grow up depends more on how the parents "communicate" with them, than the school environment. Often time, we parents talk "to" our children, rathen than taking "with" our children.
Anyway, all the best with your search for a suitable school. Oh, by the way, when I was searching for a schools for my boys, even when they were little, I took them to visit all the schools. Let them feel the environment themselves.
作者: gobgo 時間: 14-3-24 10:48
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Hi shadeslayer, great sharing. Do you mind telling which international school your child is in? Sounds like a great school with lots of committed teachers! Can't believe the school would arrange that many teachers to actually meet with each parent in a parent teacher conference!
作者: 木子兔媽媽 時間: 14-3-25 00:29 標題: 回覆：what should I do?
Broadband, read your past post title in last few years. You are a mum just like me, once wish to get the best for our kids, and then you are getting a bit lost when you are reminded by your teachers that
suggesting an uncomfortable way out for your child.
Don't think IS vs LS, think for your child. When a school giving comments to your child, think about what they really want to say. I think they might hint you that if your girl stay in their school or in a similar system, she might got stressed e.g. Felt bored with spoon feed system, got a fair impression marking because she is too active and outrageous in traditional eyes, her academic results might not be up to your expectation etc., and they know you are a high demanding mum. Sometimes, before we choose, it is better to think out of the box and ask 'what is really going on?'.
I got 2 kids with totally different characters. My girl is vivid and my son is quiet and shy. Both of I and my husband survived hk educational system. We hoped they can be world citizens with good English usage, but learning fluent Chinese too. Now my girl got both IS and LS K1 offer, all from Christian / Catholic schools with good conduct. (I agree that it is quite difficult to get IS offer if a child is not active, outspoken and English not up to native standard, and not getting interviewed at R1 or year 1). We are so proud of her. But this is just the beginning. From the past experience, she has been very favored by both IS type and LS type teachers and schools. So that makes our choice even more difficult. We have to think of our younger son as well, and what should we do?
We have to leave our mind open in last several months, seeking opinions from everyone we know having kids in LS and IS. What we do is to ask about a school's details, their parents and children characters, beliefs and abilities to see if our children can fit in. Yes, not 'the best', but 'fit in', because it is the kids' school, not solely ours. And also if we, as parents, can 'fit in' that school and with the other parents, because you would suffer if your are not in the same direction as them.
Now, we will go for an IS school first because we got so many good feedbacks from our friends of similar background, and the parents of coming classmates are so nice in Whatsapp chats.
Back to square 1, I do really suspect your girl's school is hinting they have difficulty to accommodate her needs. This is not a good thing to see. Go and search any other IS or LS schools to fit your child and you. Best wishes.
作者: nadal 時間: 14-3-28 11:26
Thanks for all the insightful sharing from everyone.
I, too, am looking at the possibility to switch my kid from LS to IS. My initial plan is to switch after he completed his primary years.
Does that mean I will be targeting to enter at year 7 or does it differ from IS to IS depending on each school's system?
Realistically, how hard will it be to get a place for year 7, provided he can pass the assessment?
作者: annie40 時間: 14-3-28 20:32
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謝謝分享！希望能看得懂的家長跟你學習。
十年前萍水相逢的遇上一位前輩家長，苦口婆心的向我分享IB的教育理念和UWC movement ，展示美麗的宏圖，甚至坦白分享兩位兒子的優秀全才能力，當年女女只得六歲，作為一位很愛孩子，又十分為孩子前途擔心的媽媽，聽在耳，記在心，不斷反思，觀察，支持孩子的正確方向，沿途中不斷認識各方好友，相互支持我們所見所信。原來只要順勢而行，培養孩子的綜合能力，讀書學習是可以十分容易的。
懂得笑，愛幻想，有親和力，就是千金難換的瑰寶，這樣的孩子特質，要好好保護，家長焦急成績，放在心中，待綜合能力䡗固，讀書便像斬瓜切菜了。小女愈長大愈發像前輩的孩子，剛考得免費奬學金往歐洲求學，朋友約她在暑假往喜瑪拉雅山探險，未知她去否？聴聞要破世界紀錄云云！
十分感謝朋友十年前的一席話，前兩天聯絡道謝，朋友話她講得很多，卻發現願意聽，願意接受這樣思維的家長是稀有，別人看到她孩子的成就，以為她是虎媽而已。我有幸聽到了，相信了，放手譲女兒走向精彩之路。
作者: Radiomama 時間: 14-3-28 20:43 標題: 引用：回覆+shadeslayer+的帖子 謝謝分享！希望
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謝謝分享！希望能看得懂的家長跟你學習。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-3-28 22:15 標題: 引用：回覆+shadeslayer+的帖子 謝謝分享！希望
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謝謝分享！希望能看得懂的家長跟你學習。
你的文章很好看，女兒的升學路，或多或少受你影響。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 14-3-28 23:13 標題: 回覆：annie40 的帖子
恭喜恭喜，向妳多多學習
作者: aandp 時間: 14-3-28 23:25 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+shadeslayer+於+14-3-28+22:20
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作者: zzzchow 時間: 14-3-28 23:30 標題: 回覆：annie40 的帖子
很好！謝謝分享！
作者: annie40 時間: 14-3-29 08:50
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相信孩子有天然能力的父母不多，最近常常想可能我們努力開發孩子智能時，更應該大力做好「保育」工作，以免赤子之心被世俗強制污染，失掉那點「真」，「誠」，「勇」，路途便変得艱鉅多了。
國際學校是小社區，跟別的小社區，沒有兩樣，照樣是好壞參半，然這裡的「保育工作」，是學校和老師的首要求任務，如果家長能明白教育者的苦心經營，一起參與推動，把孩子的童真愛心延續，隨著日漸各方認知力的增進，他們才會相信自己沒有辦不到的事。當別人還在流漣的想；幹，還是不幹，蹉跎日子，他們靜靜的已做了數千小時。按做上一萬小時能成為專才的理論，相距不遠矣。這麼就是張張刀，看似張張利的道理。請明白要強調是看似，因為是夠用而已，跟真正刀利，還有極遠大距離。
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