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作者: mezk 時間: 14-1-29 14:33 標題: 讀醫：香港vs美國vs英國

個仔讀緊直資學校中五DSE，之前想讀科學，一路準備去美國升學；舊年中突然間話要留係香港讀醫（可能受同學影響），所以考SAT的進度慢左；現在又想出國見識下先返香港，學校counselor 話都可以考慮申情英國大學。所以想請教下各位：

1. 如果讀醫，香港的水平與美國、英國大學比差幾多？係英國讀左醫之後返香港，係唔係與其他國家返來一樣都要考試先可以做醫生？
2. 英國top大學的醫與美國比，好定差？
3. 最緊要，申請英國大學讀醫，有邊的試一定要考？IGCSE、IELTS？考左TOEFL係唔係可以唔考IELTS？係唔係唔嗮好似申請美國大學一樣要其他課外活動？

好多謝各位先！

作者: elbar 時間: 14-1-29 14:56

mezk 發表於 14-1-29 14:33
個仔讀緊直資學校中五DSE，之前想讀科學，一路準備去美國升學；舊年中突然間話要留係香港讀醫（可能受同學影響），所以考SAT的進度慢左；現在又想出國見識下先返香港，學校counselor 話都可以考慮申情英國大學。所以想請教下各位：

1. 如果讀醫，香港的水平與美國、英國大學比差幾多？係英國讀左醫之後返香港，係唔係與其他國家返來一樣都要考試先可以做醫生？

英國讀左醫之後返香港，係與其他國家返來一樣都要考試先可以做醫生

作者: mezk 時間: 14-1-29 15:02

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多謝！咁會唔會易考d？始終係差唔多嗎！

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-1-29 15:24

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I would like to render my comments as follows:
1. 如果讀醫，香港的水平與美國、英國大學比差幾多？I would have thought that the standard of the basic medical training is more or less the same in US, UK and HK. All medical schools in these countries/places can offer the first class medical training to the students. 係英國讀左醫之後返香港，係唔係與其他國家返來一樣都要考試先可以做醫生？So long as you are not trained in Hong Kong, you will be required to take and pass the licentiate examination before you are allowed to practice in Hong Kong.

2. 英國top大學的醫與美國比，好定差？ For basic medical training, I would think that the standard of UK medical colleges and USA medical colleges are more or less the same, However, if we talk about medical researches, I think the medical schools of the top US colleges such as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, UC San Francisco, UCLA etc are, on the average better than those in UK (except, Oxbridge, Imperial or UCL).

3. 最緊要，申請英國大學讀醫，有邊的試一定要考？IGCSE、IELTS？考左TOEFL係唔係可以唔考IELTS？係唔係唔嗮好似申請美國大學一樣要其他課外活動？If you want to apply to Oxbridge or Imperial College, you need to take the BMAT, You need to take UKCAT for other UK colleges. The only college that does not require additional medical aptitude test is U Bristol. Apart from good academic result, I think you need to demonstrate to the admission tutor that you are passionate about medicine and you are fit to study medicine. The best way to demonstrate your passion is the activities taken outside classrooms.

作者: elbar 時間: 14-1-29 15:25

mezk 發表於 14-1-29 15:02
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多謝！咁會唔會易考d？始終係差唔多嗎！

海外醫生執業試一年增至兩次

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-1-29 17:18

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Thanks for your sharing.

作者: mezk 時間: 14-1-30 08:21

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Dear Shootstar,

Thank you so much for your kind informantion! May I ask if BMAT and UKCAT is for applying graduate study?

作者: mezk 時間: 14-1-30 08:23

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Dear Elbar, That's good news! :) Thanks a lot!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-1-30 09:06

mezk 發表於 14-1-30 08:21
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Dear Shootstar,

You ask the right person. Shootastar has hand on experience in all your scenario.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-1-30 12:52

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For all UK undergraduate medical program, only U Bristol does not require any medical aptitude test.
If you apply to Oxbridge, Imperial College or UCL, you need to take the BMAT test (arranged by Cambridge)

For other medical schools, they require UKCAT tests.

For post-graduate entry, as far as I know, none of them requires the applicants to take BMAT test. However, some of them would require the applicant to take the UKCAT test.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-1-30 12:58

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Thank for for your kind words.
I have the information just because my daughter had gone through the applications to UK and HK medical schools two years ago, She had also applied and admitted to the pre-med program of one of the top US college. I provide the information for sharing purpose to my best ability but information may change during these two years. Would the parents feel free to correct me if any information I wrote is outdated.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-1-30 13:01

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Sure, we will....

作者: mezk 時間: 14-2-4 11:44

Dear Shootastar, ANChan59 and Elbar,

Thank you very much and Happy New Year to you and yourfamily! J

作者: JuiceMum 時間: 14-2-4 15:58

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作者: bbfish1992 時間: 14-2-5 15:21

Shootastar 發表於 14-1-30 12:58
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Thank for for your kind words.

would you mind to share information on "pre-med program"?
what is it?
is it compulsory to study this program prior to apply medical school?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-2-5 15:41

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The cornerstone of an US education is the liberal art studies – you have a lot of choices to take and explore so as to find out your true interest during your college time. Apart from some compulsory subjects such as creative writing or a foreign language, you can choose whatever subject you like in the first 2 years of study. Most US colleges only require you to declare your major subject in the 3rd year.

The medical schools require the students to have solid foundation on science and related subjects. If you miss the prerequisite subjects, you cannot fulfill the requirement of admission to medical schools.

Some US colleges would therefore create a program called pre-med program for its undergraduate students.The program ensures that the students who graduate from the program have taken all requisite subjects to apply for medical schools. For top US colleges which offer pre-med program, their graduates would have a higher chance to be admitted to the medical schools according to the statistics. This is because the competition for the pre-med program is very keen and the number of spaces is limited. Only the top students are admitted. If they could perform reasonably good in the pre-med program, they have better odds to be admitted to the US medical schools after graduation.

作者: bbfish1992 時間: 14-2-5 15:49

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The cornerstone ofan US education is the liberal art studies – you have a l ...

Thanks a lot of the information!

Does it only apply for the US medical school?

作者: bbfish1992 時間: 14-2-5 15:52

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The cornerstone ofan US education is the liberal art studies – you have a l ...

it is a good idea for students to find out their interest & to taste the medical school life in pre-med program

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-2-5 16:17

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The UK and Hong Kong system are a little bit different from the US's liberal art system. In UK or HK, you will study your specific program in the first year, although recently the colleges in Hong Kong would require students to take some elective subjects offered from other departments in the first 2 years in order to broaden their horizon. So there is no pre-med program offered by the UK or HK colleges to its students. Having said, if you have a science degree with majors in Chemistry, Biochemistry, Biomedical Science, Biology or other related subjects, you are eligible to apply for medicine through graduate entry.
If you are a pre-med graduate of US colleges, you are eligible to apply to the UK or HK colleges for medicine through the graduate route.

作者: mezk 時間: 14-2-6 10:54

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Thanks Shootastar for the kind valuable information shared!

作者: crystalcbh 時間: 14-2-24 07:36 標題: 回覆：讀醫：香港vs美國vs英國

香港讀醫，每年幾多錢學費？

作者: ivankan 時間: 14-2-24 15:02

$41.xxx

作者: 魚王 時間: 14-2-24 20:56 標題: 回覆：讀醫：香港vs美國vs英國

To be honest, if your child gets medical degree from aboard, you have to plan yr child to stay and work aboard in long term to continue his profession. Dont expect yr child to come back to hong kong. It is because the licenciate examination in hong kong for all outsiders who want to work in hk is extremely diff and the passing rate is extraordinary low. If really want to come back US students are most diff, because the medical learning in US is totally diff from hk. Uk, australia and Hong kong are similar. As such we do look palpate , auscultate and percuss, but the US sequence is totally diff.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-2-25 01:57

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HK$42,100 per year at the present fee level.

作者: jennybbb 時間: 14-2-26 16:11 標題: 引用：To+be+honest,+if+your+child+gets+medical

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To be honest, if your child gets medical degree from aboard, you have to plan yr child to stay and w ...

May i ask a u a doctor?

作者: talent2000 時間: 14-2-27 05:55

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作者: A-Mum 時間: 14-2-27 14:29

本地醫科近年加左好多學位，依家醫管局唔夠醫生，但只要等幾年＂大班＂畢業，其實已經會填滿晒D位。據以往經驗，唔夠位後，醫管局會有壓力要先請本地畢業生，否則又會俾人鬧浪費資源。

就算有位，本地生都係佔地利。醫學生上堂、做 assistant intern 時，已經有機會 impress 心儀嘅 department, 揾定 Intern 位；Intern 時又可以乖乖巧巧勤勤力力的表現自己，揾定 resident 位。外地返嚟，少好多機會。

當然，特別超班，無信心係香港考到，或者識人嘅，另計。普普通通，唸住係香港做醫生的話，都係係香港讀好。

作者: 魚王 時間: 14-2-27 18:31 標題: 引用：本地醫科近年加左好多學位，依家醫管局唔夠

原帖由 A-Mum 於 14-02-27 發表
本地醫科近年加左好多學位，依家醫管局唔夠醫生，但只要等幾年＂大班＂畢業，其實已經會填滿晒D位。據以往 ...

我上司D仔女要讀医，都特定要個女從外國回來讀医，入了cu medic, 開心死！

作者: ivankan 時間: 14-2-28 14:58

my son hku medi IB 43/45

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-2-28 15:07

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Congratulation.
Rumors come from the students that the number of NJ medical students to be admitted this year would be around 20% of the total number of places. It is therefore more difficult to get into the medical program this year.

作者: jennybbb 時間: 14-2-28 20:07 標題: 引用：my+son+hku+medi+IB+43/45

原帖由 ivankan 於 14-02-28 發表
my son hku medi IB 43/45

恭喜！

作者: ivankan 時間: 14-2-28 20:17

可能今年要更高分！！

作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-1 08:54 標題: 引用：回覆+ivankan+的帖子 Congratulation.+Rum

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Congratulation.

20％ or 25％？

作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-1 08:54 標題: 回覆：ivankan 的帖子

Congratulation.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-3-1 10:33

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Officially Professor Leung, the Dean said that HKU would not admit NJ medical students more than 25% of the available spaces.
However, unofficially, some of the professors told to the students that the quota may be limited to 20% in order to give more chance to the JUPAS applicants - to give more chance to the grass-rooted talents.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-1 10:56 標題: 回覆：Shootastar 的帖子

明白，事實上跟草根關係不大，成績反而是重點。

不同教授有不同理解！

作者: talent2000 時間: 14-3-2 04:44

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 14-3-2 13:43 標題: 回覆：talent2000 的帖子

曾經有一位前輩講過，如果想在外國做医生又係外國公民，最好去外國讀医，因為外國不會給出太多医科位給非公民，不知道係不係？

True.

本地医科學生競爭會否非常大？

Yes and no,

If all local students want to study MBBS, yes it's.

If you are top 1.5%, it's easy.

作者: talent2000 時間: 14-3-3 06:15

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作者: mezk 時間: 14-6-17 13:04

Shootastar,

Please check pm. Many thanks!

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-6-17 20:41

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Mezk
Please check PM.

作者: yovin 時間: 14-6-18 01:06 標題: 回覆：Shootastar 的帖子

朋友說她的囡囡在英國讀醫，由於是英聯邦政府，所以回港不用考港試便能執業……她的說法正確嗎？

作者: mezk 時間: 14-6-18 11:19

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DearShootastar,

Reallyappreciate your detail information! Because I think your information is sovaluable and most parents also want to know some general information onapplication, I would like to get your kind clarification here:

1. Arepersonal statement and interview for application of HK medical schools as criticalas those for application in US universities? Because as I know, personalstatement and interview are much critical for application in US universities,while HK universities look most on DSE results?

2.Are those books for applying UK medical schools also useful for applying HKmedical schools?
Thankyou so much again!

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-6-18 12:04

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(1) Personal Statement and Interview are important components in the application process of admission to US colleges.
(2) For NJ applications to medical schools in Hong Kong, as you know, applicants come from different education system such as IB, A-level, US-AP etc. It is difficult and unfair to compare NJ applicants simply on their academic performances in different public examination. As far as I know, the admission tutors therefore look for more information about the applicants from their personal statements and the performance in interview. Needless to say, they would consider their ECA and see how the applicants make use of their time outside classroom.

(3) For the JUPAS applicants to the medical schools, it is relatively easier for the admission tutors to compare their academic ability. So it is fair to rely more on their performance in the DSE. For borderline cases, the admission tutors would also consider their personal statements and performance in interview and their ECA, just like the factors they would consider in case of the NJ applicants. In other words, there is no harm for JUPAS applicants to present a strong personal statement and demonstrate their knowledge of the medical profession during the interview.

(4) Nearly each book on how to write a personal statement for the application for medicine would give you about 50 to 100 examples of successful applications to UK medical schools.

(5) The book on interview would let you know many things you do not know about the medical profession, what doctors would do etc. For example, the admission tutors would ask you whether nursing is a health care profession. Your answer should be "yes". The admission tutor would ask you "why do you not apply to "nursing" but apply to "medicine" since both are health care profession, Unless you have the preparation, usually the applicants could not perform well on this question, You will be amazed by the sample questions which may be asked and the proposed answers to those tricky questions. If your son can read the books, certainly he could acquire much knowledge about the medical professions (which are similar in UK and HK).

Good Luck!

作者: mezk 時間: 14-6-18 12:33

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Your kind sharing is really appreciated! We will find some books and study carefully!

作者: riccichu 時間: 14-6-20 21:21 標題: 引用：回覆+mezk+的帖子 (1)+Personal+Statement

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(1) Personal Statement and Interview are important components in the application p ...

你好，還記得我嗎？去年聽了你的意見後，在面試前給我仔仔買了你所講的參考書，結果。。，多謝你的寶貴意見。

作者: poonseelai 時間: 14-6-20 21:46 標題: 引用：朋友說她的囡囡在英國讀醫，由於是英聯邦政

原帖由 yovin 於 14-06-18 發表
朋友說她的囡囡在英國讀醫，由於是英聯邦政府，所以回港不用考港試便能執業……她的說法正確嗎？

...

回歸前就可以，現在好似要考試喎

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-6-21 00:22

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Is your son successful in his application?
I hope the books are useful to him.

God bless!

作者: talent2000 時間: 14-6-21 02:47

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作者: riccichu 時間: 14-6-21 07:55 標題: 引用：回覆+riccichu+的帖子 Is+your+son+succes

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Is your son successful in his application?

Both books can give him useful ideas in writing his P.S and prepearing the interview. The most important is the acedemic result.

作者: nahs88 時間: 14-6-22 11:47

本人也想替小兒申請到英國讀醫，但去agent查詢，他們只叫我考UKCAT,其他要自己去UCAS報名，我唔知應該點開始，請大家教教我整個申請程序，報考UKCAT要有什麽準?英國讀醫要求DSE要什麽成績？回流香港會睇你响边間大學讀醫嗎?

作者: nahs88 時間: 14-6-22 13:06

小兒現就讀大學一年級，應該連同DSE成績一併申報？

作者: ivankan 時間: 14-6-22 13:13

http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/who-takes ... an-i-take-the-test/
UKCAT Test Centers in Hong Kong

Telephone
852 21678568

娯楽行
30 Queen's Road, Central

Hong Kong

作者: nahs88 時間: 14-6-22 13:28

thanks! ivankan

作者: cheungdzinyung 時間: 14-7-3 11:35

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作者: mansdom 時間: 14-7-4 09:23

Shootastar 發表於 14-6-21 00:22
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Is your son successful in his application?

Dear both Shootastar & riccichu,
你們好, 可否給予該兩本書的名字, 如不方便,請可否PM我.

謝謝

作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-7-5 00:54

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I I suggest you to surf Amazon UK site and search for "application for medicine". You can find more than 10 books on how to make a successful interview or to make a successful application. Some books teach you how to write a personal statement for medicine. They also give you samples of 50 to 100 samples which were successful in the past.

作者: mansdom 時間: 14-7-5 22:22

Thanks for your advice

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