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作者: elock 時間: 14-1-21 10:28 標題: Nord Anglia, 大家有何意見?

Any comment about this new school in Hong Kong? It runs British curriculum.

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-21 10:54

hard to say as it is not opened yet.

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-21 21:16

English National Curriculum

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-22 09:48

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Hi, yes you are right. I mentioned that already.
Even though this school is new in HONG KONG. does anyone have any idea about this school from the branches it has in other parts of the world.
Similar school in Hong Kong will be Harrow and Kellett, I guess!

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-22 10:13

I have a colleague who lived in UK for a few years before.

He asked his friends and most of them know Harrow (in terms of branding and reputation). Some of them start to recognize Kellett but no one has heard of Nord Anglia before (according to him).

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 10:18

我報左仍考慮中會唔會讀

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-22 10:20

dorothy313 發表於 14-1-22 10:18
我報左仍考慮中會唔會讀

Got an offer already?

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 10:29

yes所以考慮中

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-22 10:45 標題: 回覆：dorothy313 的帖子

Which year are you applying?
When did you get the reply?

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-22 10:50 標題: 回覆：victoryu19 的帖子

I guess in other areas it uses another name.
I wonder why in UK they don't have a school?

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-22 11:13

elock 發表於 14-1-22 10:50
I guess in other areas it uses another name.
I wonder why in UK they don't have a school?

you want to apply?
I think they have finished the interviews already?

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 11:58

我申請是YEAR 2
首輪申請已經結束不過仍接受申請中

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-22 13:03

dorothy313 發表於 14-1-22 11:58
我申請是YEAR 2
首輪申請已經結束不過仍接受申請中

is the interview difficult by the way?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-1-22 13:40

victoryu19 發表於 14-1-22 10:13
He asked his friends and most of them know Harrow (in terms of branding and reputation)

This is true, Harrow is a very well known and highly regarded school in UK. Although Harrow HK is not quite the same beast as Harrow UK, not many Brits are aware of that, so if the child is going to be living and working in UK eventually, having the name Harrow on his/her CV will certainly help to open some doors.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-1-22 13:54

elock 發表於 14-1-22 10:50
I guess in other areas it uses another name.
I wonder why in UK they don't have a school?

Nord Anglia only do international schools, in most parts of the world, they are called "The British School of Somewhere". For example, in China their schools are called "The British School of Beijing" and "The British School of Guangzhou" etc ...

http://www.nordanglia.com/index.php/our-schools.html

Why isn't it called "The British School of Hongkong" here? Haha, I guess some Chinese Hongkongers are just overly eager to be politically correct

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 14:26

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story time同埋同小朋友傾計

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-22 15:12 標題: 回覆：dorothy313 的帖子

How many days after the interview did you know the result?

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 15:58

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1 week

作者: cici1010 時間: 14-1-22 20:25

We got an offer but the capital enrollment fee is as high as 80K, and it's non refundable. We are still thinking if we should take it.

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-22 21:13

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me too

What year group of you kid?

作者: banbanban 時間: 14-1-22 22:29

The deposit is horrendous for a new school. Even the most sought-after IS in Hong Kong are not charging this amount, I believe. One may not easily agree with its expansion strategies such as IPO:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2 ... USL1N0JP1P320131212

http://www.scmp.com/comment/lett ... t-investors-profits

作者: Jackieson 時間: 14-1-23 09:40

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其實教育&商業好難做到掛勾, 最終可能苦了家長學生!

"An IPO must ensure for investors a reasonable return and potential for growth.

The natural consequence would be to continually focus on ways to increase profits (for example, larger class sizes, higher tuition fees and debentures, cheaper teachers, and the elimination of more costly school programmes and activities) while spending much time and energy planning for new schools instead of helping students."

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/%E8%8B%B1%E8%B2%B4%E6%97%8F%E6%A0%A1nae%E6%93%AC%E4%BE%86%E6%B8%AF%E4%B8%8A%E5%B8%82-222323742.html

英貴族校NAE擬來港上市

(綜合報道)(星島日報報道)新股市場暢旺，吸引新鮮概念股陸續有來。繼醫院股和殯儀股後，本港有望迎來首隻學校股。消息稱，國際貴族學校運營集團Nord Anglia Education（NAE）擬在港上市，集資最多兩億美元（約十五點五億元）。該校已聘請瑞信、高盛以及摩根大通作為安排行，計畫明年啟動招股事宜。

外電引述消息人士報道，NAE很可能於明年上市，上市地點除了香港之外，紐約和新加坡亦在考慮範圍之內。NAE今年正式進駐本港，首席執行官費安魯（Andrew Fitzmaurice）表示決定將全球業務中心設在香港。分析人士認為，考慮到集團意欲大力擴展以內地為主的亞洲區業務，在本港上市可能性甚高。Nord Anglia本部辦公室和香港分校均未回應本報記者查詢。

NAE起源於英國，為全球最大私立學校辦學團體之一，現時擁有二十七所學校，分布於東南亞、中國、歐洲、北美和中東等地。

香港Nord Anglia國際學校是集團在本港的第一所學校，今年四月獲批藍田安田街聖言中學前校舍地皮，於十月底開始接受首輪入學申請，並將於明年九月開學。

學校標榜採用英國國家課程，初期設小一預備班至第七班，提供六百六十個學額，小學學費為十三點一八萬元，中學學費為十四點七萬元，略低於本港另一家私立國際學校哈羅（Harrow），亦低於NAE上海分校每年學費一半以上。

此外，校方曾透露有意與香港教育學院合作，將香港分校打造成「教學學校」，通過已設的虛擬大學Nord Anglia University，舉辦網上研討會、論壇及工作坊，預計每年培訓二百五十名本港教師及準教師，提升其解難能力及專業發展。

新鴻基金融高級證券分析員李惠嫻表示，Nord Anglia在香港的業務尚未啟動，前景如何很難下判斷，只有看到招股書才能做出評估。不過教育股在市場上一向冷門，其一是因為足夠達到上市盈利條件的私人學校屈指可數，港交所對申請公司的審批過程亦緩慢；其二是學校跟其他上市企業營運模式不同，投資者對學校的盈利模式不熟悉，未必願意給予高溢價。

她表示，較之私人學校，補習機構的盈利更易符合上市要求，但現代教育（後改名為香港教育，1082）上市後僅兩年，就要以賣殼收場，或打擊市場對行業信心。李惠嫻直言，就算教育機構有心擴張業務，惟若股票交投量相對較淡靜，上市後在二級市場再融資，如發行債券等亦有困難。

作者: cici1010 時間: 14-1-23 11:03

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year 2. Also, the 80K CEF can not be used as tuition later on, it's extra. It feels like I am buying a placement there.

作者: cici1010 時間: 14-1-23 11:05

Year 2.

作者: cici1010 時間: 14-1-23 11:06

And the 80K CEF cannot be used as tuition later on, it's extra. I feel like I am buying placement there.

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-23 11:26

Yes感覺好似買位

只有兩星期決定, 好煩

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-23 16:05

本帖最後由 victoryu19 於 14-1-23 16:07 編輯

dorothy313 發表於 14-1-23 11:26
Yes感覺好似買位
只有兩星期決定, 好煩

People need to pay even more (ex: debenture) in some other schools as well.
Kingston, for example, requires you to pay $80,000 for PN and another $80,000 for primary.

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-23 16:21

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但NAIS係一間新學校所以有些擔心, 同埋NAIS的學費都幾貴

作者: caa 時間: 14-1-23 16:47

Listed companies aim at making profit and increasing value to shareholders, not parents. How can a listed company's aim be compatible with an education organization?

作者: smith 時間: 14-1-24 09:30

本帖最後由 smith 於 14-1-24 09:31 編輯

I asked a friend who was grown up in UK. He never heard "Nord Anglia".

作者: Jackieson 時間: 14-1-24 09:45

dorothy313 發表於 14-1-23 16:21
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但NAIS係一間新學校所以有些擔心, 同埋NAIS的學費都幾貴

一位難求, 就算學費唔係問題, 讀到中學時可能要轉校, 又要煩多次

作者: clubmed 時間: 14-1-24 10:11 標題: 回覆：Jackieson 的帖子

如果係我會入咗去先，否則第日肯定又係好難考得入了。

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-24 14:42

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我都有同感, 不過又擔心自已係白老鼠

都唔知呢間學校好唔好

作者: clubmed 時間: 14-1-24 14:57 標題: 回覆：dorothy313 的帖子

又或者係一間好學校呢

作者: Jackieson 時間: 14-1-24 15:16

clubmed 發表於 14-1-24 10:11
如果係我會入咗去先，否則第日肯定又係好難考得入了。

都係既, 小學學位難求d, 中學學位又會多返d, 而且IS小學轉去IS中學又會易咗d...

作者: cici1010 時間: 14-1-26 23:11

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But debenture is refundable, their 80K CEF is one-off non-refundable.

作者: banbanban 時間: 14-1-27 00:08

Agreed that if this is the only offer one has, should probably take it. But I suppose a lot of P1 applicants are waiting for results from other schools too.

作者: vivicui 時間: 14-1-27 13:42

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作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-27 15:46

The most important that is....... will it be a famous school

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-27 15:53 標題: 引用：it+is+a+profit+making+school+as+one+of+t

原帖由 vivicui 於 14-01-27 發表
it is a profit making school as one of the former teacher commented.

School must be making a profit in order to survive.  When it involves expenses, it is a business.
Most importantly is how well it will provide education and resources to the students.
As it is a new school in HK, no wonder many parents are fear of the unknown.  Same here.
My main query is why it doesn't have any school in UK?  This actually is one of the reason that no UK people know about the school, I guess.

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-27 16:34

see this, is it helpful?...
http://www1.investhk.gov.hk/zh-h ... 7-nordanglia-tc.pdf

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-27 16:46

I am interested in this school. Of course, the fee is quite high. However, I am notice on the teaching method is good and useful for children? I worry that It will very difficult to enter after few years later.
So, I want to discuss more and found the web site :
http://www.nordangliaeducation.com/our-schools/hong-kong
http://hongkong.geoschools.com/forum/166/thread4706.html

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-28 14:35

keepcalm 發表於 14-1-27 16:46
I am interested in this school. Of course, the fee is quite high. However, I am notice on the teachi ...

you applied and got an offer too?

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-28 15:08

Yes. So want to know more amd hope this school is famous in the coming years

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-28 15:10

Though the fee is expensive, if my child can learn more and useful. It is valueable.

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-1-28 15:55

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What year group of you kid?

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-29 00:04 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

Coz Kellett registered the words The British School, so in Hong Kong Nord Anglia chooses to use the words of the organization.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-1-29 00:20

elock 發表於 14-1-29 00:04
Coz Kellett registered the words The British School, so in Hong Kong Nord Anglia chooses to use the ...

I see. On Kellett's website they have the words "The British International School in Hong Kong" under their emblem, not exactly "The British School of Somewhere" typically used by Nord Anglia, but I guess Kellett might have registered other variations of those words.

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-29 21:22

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Year 1. Will pay it on tomorrow. I think it is quite difficult to enter in the coming years since many people apply.

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-29 21:23

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Year 1. Will pay it on tomorrow. I think it is quite difficult to enter in the coming years since many people apply.

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-30 09:06 標題: 引用：回覆+dorothy313+的帖子Year+1.++Will+pay+

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Year 1. Will pay it on tomorrow. I think it is quite difficult to enter in ...

According to the school, Year 1 is full. They are planning to open up one more Year 1 class.

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-1-30 12:27

Yes. It is very lucky to me. I think quite many applicant to apply year 1. ..,. How about u

作者: elock 時間: 14-1-30 13:27 標題: 回覆：keepcalm 的帖子

Year 3. Still considering.

作者: bxxd 時間: 14-1-30 16:42

O. C. Still have several date to consider.

作者: bxxd 時間: 14-1-30 16:43

Ok. Still have several days to consider.

作者: elock 時間: 14-2-1 09:01 標題: 引用：Ok.+Still+have+several+days+to+consider.

原帖由 bxxd 於 14-01-30 發表
Ok. Still have several days to consider.

Which year are your applying?
You received an offer too?

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-2-1 23:47

我都考慮中未比錢

作者: elock 時間: 14-2-3 18:42 標題: 引用：我都考慮中未比錢

原帖由 dorothy313 於 14-02-01 發表
我都考慮中未比錢

Wonder how many parents actually take the offer?

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-2-3 20:20

new school, start from zero ( year one to year nine )and not many people know it now. So, it seems many offers

作者: elock 時間: 14-2-5 14:48 標題: 引用：我都考慮中未比錢

原帖由 dorothy313 於 14-02-01 發表
我都考慮中未比錢

Have you finally decided to pay or not?

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-2-5 15:18

i paid

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-2-5 15:19

i paid

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-2-5 16:18

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無接受offer

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-2-5 16:36

dorothy313 發表於 14-2-5 16:18
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無接受offer

You got a better offer elsewhere?

作者: dorothy313 時間: 14-2-6 09:36

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留在原校

作者: keepcalm 時間: 14-2-6 11:20

victoryu19, elock, ...... how about your decession.

作者: readymama 時間: 14-2-6 11:23

i am also looking to apply Nord Anglia for Year 1 for my girl.

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-2-6 11:55

keepcalm 發表於 14-2-6 11:20
victoryu19, elock, ...... how about your decession.

My son is still in PN so we are not eligible yet.
We are still thinking whether we should apply.

作者: elock 時間: 14-2-6 12:08 標題: 引用：victoryu19,+elock,+......+how+about+your

原帖由 keepcalm 於 14-02-06 發表
victoryu19, elock, ...... how about your decession.

Haven't decided yet but probably will take the offer. Other schools' results will not be ready at least 2 months later. Not too worry Nord Anglia is new in HK. I am more concern if it can really deliver the education that the principal said they will, and whether the curriculum is well-balanced enough. I really don't want a pure academic school.
Also, students will take the IB diploma in the final 2 years. This makes this school a hybrid with English curriculum and eventually IB.

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-2-20 17:23

filed for IPO?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2 ... USL3N0LN4RO20140218

作者: readymama 時間: 14-12-21 00:33

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hi hi elock, would like to know if at the end your kids goes to NAIS for primary school study?

作者: ilnay 時間: 14-12-22 23:01 標題: 引用：i+paid

原帖由 keepcalm 於 14-02-05 發表
i paid

May I know how is the school life so far? Are you satisfied with the academic standard? Thx

作者: elock 時間: 15-1-3 15:55 標題: 回覆：readymama 的帖子

Yes, my kid is studying there and he enjoys his school life everyday.

作者: JM_wyw 時間: 15-1-5 21:58 標題: 回覆：Nord Anglia, 大家有何意見?

From web, it said $2000 for applying fee, when got interview, need to pay extra $2000, is it means that need to pay $4000 before the interview?
Is the school worth to study?

作者: elock 時間: 15-1-15 22:09 標題: 回覆：JM_wyw 的帖子

Application fee for international school is similar. Worth it or not is too personal. Most importantly is whether the school fits your kid rather than the number of like and dislike. My kid used to attend a quite well known private school (even though many outsiders still consider it as int'l school), but it didn't fit him and he ended up not enjoying going to school nor did the school fit what we are looking for in terms of overall education.
In summary, I believe no one can answer your question about "worth" precisely.

作者: readymama 時間: 15-1-16 00:21

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Hi elock, thank you for your sharing. So in comparing with your kids's previous school, what is the advantage you/ your kids see and like about NAIS than the previous one? is the old one too stress on academic?

作者: elock 時間: 15-1-19 14:47 標題: 回覆：readymama 的帖子

Hi readymama, this school is more all rounded to me. The previous school focuses on academic much much more. But the main difference I see in my kid is how open up and excited he is by attending this school. He talks about school life everyday. In the past, he hardly uttered a word about school life and even when asked he showed no interest in discussing it.
I believe more people are interested in this school now because there are lots of applicants.
Hope you'll find more comments useful!

作者: readymama 時間: 15-1-19 19:54

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Thank you for your sharing! Great to hear that your kids enjoy the school! I at the end didnt attend NAIS interview due to the location & expensive fee & cost but now is a bit regret of missing the chance.

作者: elock 時間: 15-1-20 09:05 標題: 回覆：readymama 的帖子

Hi readymama, so which school did your kid attend interview(s)?
Don't regret! As I said, a school that fits your kid is more important than how famous a school is.
It is happy to see your kid bringing a smile to school!!

作者: victoryu19 時間: 15-1-21 11:03

is it difficult to get in?

作者: elock 時間: 15-1-22 13:29 標題: 回覆：victoryu19 的帖子

HI Victoryu19, I don't really know, but for Sept 2014 admission, the school did fail aome interviewees.

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