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作者: lpanna 時間: 14-1-17 13:36 標題: 好有錢先可以讀CIS?!
我聽過唔止一次，有d中產人士就算鍾意都唔敢報名cis，因為印象中cis係勁有錢先可以讀，睇bk有人家庭月入30萬，都只敢報esf ,但我見cis學費又未至於天價，究竟家庭月入大概幾多先可負擔到小孩讀cis呢？
作者: gwaichuchu 時間: 14-1-17 13:43
D人嚇下你，嚇到少左人報，佢咪有機會囉
作者: lpanna 時間: 14-1-17 14:21
有D佢仔女已讀緊其他is,有d係我上網睇comment ，真係唔知⋯⋯
有冇cis家長可以講下你地家庭月入幾多？
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-17 14:36
學生家庭勁有錢 =/= 勁有錢先可以讀
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 14:53
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作者: oooray 時間: 14-1-17 15:15
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香港好多人月入零但有花不盡的錢；你點去統計?不如直接打去學校問下月入得30萬收唔收?
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 15:23
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作者: Shootastar 時間: 14-1-17 15:30
I estimate that the average family income of the "ordinary" parents of the kids who study in CIS may be around $120,000 to $200,000
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 15:30
我認識讀cis的，真係月入都吾只30萬一人。
有中上產讀的，但吾算多，尤其近年。近年多買debenture，以確保有得
in。
去過佢seminar，想過報，但佢推杭州一年寄宿programme，順勢吾報。一來我吾會捨得個女十幾歲離開一年，二來確係齊大非偶。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 15:38
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作者: himching 時間: 14-1-17 15:38
好似話讀到CIS唔係有冇錢問題, 因為對佢地黎講有錢係基本要求. 講錢耀中應該貴過CIS. 重點係父母家庭背景, 但都有兩類, 一係有影響力人士, 第二係嘅父母教育背景, 哈佛/M記/長春物物乜乜/牛記/劍記, 就機會大啲, 可能佢地講得父母都咁勁, 佢地仔囡應該唔會差得去邊.
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 15:38
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作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 15:41
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HKIS華人家庭可能係，但佢幾多expat的，果d家庭住好、食好，有公司package，無咗份工，其實無也自己錢。我以前做ibank大把呢d同事。
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-17 15:42
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I thought debenture being recalled and phased out?
作者: himching 時間: 14-1-17 15:43
不過我都想知有冇父母係類似天水圍街坊學校畢業, 但係有錢而冇社會影響力,而啲仔女讀到 CIS?
作者: donut012 時間: 14-1-17 15:44 標題: 回覆：好有錢先可以讀CIS?!
其實CIS嘅personal debenture 只係$75,000，好多人都afford到, 買corporate debenture 入嘅其實佔好少數。不過afford到同收唔收係兩回事。我見過讀CIS嘅學生大多非常outgoing, 唔怕羞, 有自信, 英文普通話流利。可以咁講，可以陪育到咁嘅小朋友嘅家庭大多都是有錢的。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 15:51
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作者: donut012 時間: 14-1-17 16:02 標題: 回覆：好有錢先可以讀CIS?!
仲有除咗有錢，父母大多係好有學識的。唔係嗰D暴發戶
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 16:18
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鬼佬稅重，同埋佢地果種使錢法，儲吾到就儲吾到。老婆吾做嘢，2個讀HKIS，佢地失咗業真係吾係講笑。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 16:18
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himching 發表於 14-1-17 15:43 
不過我都想知有冇父母係類似天水圍街坊學校畢業, 但係有錢而冇社會影響力,而啲仔女讀到 CIS? ...
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作者: hkparent 時間: 14-1-17 18:56 標題: 引用：Quote:himching+發表於+14-1-17+15:43+不過
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Interview會問父母那裹畢業嗎？只要唔好用天水圍地址就無問題，
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-1-17 20:26
Why?
How about CIS offers excellent education and have a very good university placement record?
Is that good enough reason?
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 20:42
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咁講，如果佢無杭州計劃，我真係報，佢又收，我吾會太care其他人點樣，始終小朋友前途最緊要，Cis又真係一流的學校。小朋友的價值觀可以教，佢地都有學生坐校車，較平實。
你小朋友讀書讀得出色，你吾會怕同其他家長rub shoulders。
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 14-1-17 21:59
有種講法，即係月度學費以低於或等於家庭月收入的1/10為宜。
CIS最貴學年約20幾萬學費，則家庭年收入300萬既話，應付學費應不會有問題。
作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-17 22:14
what is the 杭州計劃 about?
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-17 22:16
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I don't think they are talking about affordability
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 14-1-17 22:26
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I don't think they are talking about affordability
我覺得學校的確好，女兒性格適合，學費承擔的起，便嘗試報讀了。也幸運地被邀請到參加今年的面試。請問還有其他我需要考慮的問題嗎？山外有山，我不會研究什麽所謂階級和背景問題，也是我攀比不了的
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 22:28
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舊年聽簡介會，佢地開始實行吾記得係咪中三，學生mandatory要去佢地杭州campus寄宿一年。
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-17 22:34
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I thought they were referring to 階級和背景問題. But I will let them speak for themselves
作者: ckwliu 時間: 14-1-17 22:35 標題: 回覆：好有錢先可以讀CIS?!
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作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-1-17 22:47 標題: 回覆：好有錢先可以讀CIS?!
Many IS have rich people, very rich people. Parents should focus on their own finance and the choice of the best education for their little ones. Anything else is secondary. If it happens to be CIS/HKIS, then why hesitate.
That is exactly the same as low income patents who are shamed of applying to DSS even though they have scholarships from the schools.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-17 22:52
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In a way, yes, very similar to some people not applying to DSS
作者: lpanna 時間: 14-1-17 23:02
其實我都唔相信cis只重金錢，只係奇怪d人講到咁好咁鍾意，但月入30萬都唔敢報，而cis學費又唔係天價，所以好奇問下。
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-1-17 23:22 標題: 引用：其實我都唔相信cis只重金錢，只係奇怪d人講
原帖由 lpanna 於 14-01-17 發表
其實我都唔相信cis只重金錢，只係奇怪d人講到咁好咁鍾意，但月入30萬都唔敢報，而cis學費又唔係天價，所以 ...
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-17 23:42
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香港人有時會「太自量」，害咗自己。以前大陸有句，「人有多大膽，地有多大產」，係浮誇，但有道理。
太自量，未搏先宿，邊有得發圍。
有舊同事，月入30以上，住陽明，長期以「我地呢種人」自居，都係出身寒苦的緣故。
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-17 23:46
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作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-18 00:20
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But 月入30 in ibank is like a VP? Which is hardly a senior person
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-18 00:24
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作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-18 10:11
過了一晚，覺得在forum講錢，吾係好恰當。畢竟這是開放給所有人討論，吾係圍內傾計。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-1-18 10:21 標題: 引用：回覆+Jane1983+的帖子 But+月入30+in+iban
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But 月入30 in ibank is like a VP? Which is hardly a senior person
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 14-1-18 10:42
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家庭月入大概幾多先可負擔到小孩讀 cis?
1. 睇 http://www.cis.edu.hk/admissions/tuition-costs/index.aspx
2. 跟住打電話去 cis 問有甚麽其他駛費.
3. 之後就自己計自已條數.
負唔負擔得起要睇吓你自己點睇. 有D人用月入10%去比學費都話負擔唔起. 有D人用晒所有錢都話無問題.
至於驚有富2代同學睇低自己, 依D野又係好睇個人嘅. 有D人驚會自卑. 有D人恨不得識多幾個比自己有錢10倍同學. 最重要嘅係富2代第2間學校都會有. 你怎樣處理先係關鍵.
作者: lui 時間: 14-1-18 11:21 標題: 引用：回覆+lpanna+的帖子
家庭月入大概幾多先可
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家庭月入大概幾多先可負擔到小孩讀 cis?
作者: angelaaki 時間: 14-1-18 14:59
CIS 的家長多是 bankers 或者 lawyers，有錢都未必入得到。重要填十幾頁的報名問卷...
至於HKIS的debenture要2M，想買都要排waiting list。
作者: clara1477 時間: 14-1-18 15:16 標題: 回覆：好有錢先可以讀CIS
就算適合讀CIS, 我覺得家庭收入仍是一個重要的考慮因素。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-1-18 16:13
lui 發表於 14-1-18 11:21
A friend of mine who is a ibanker with over 6m annual income has his two sons study at Esf. They are ...
There are many considerations in choosing a school. It does not mean anyone earning less than 6M a year should not consider any schools more expensive than ESF, and that they are not "down-to-earth".
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-1-18 17:21
一百個人選學校，有一百個理由。
你覺得做的是小朋友best interest，你又吾會後悔就得。無也大不了，鍾意就去考，今年吾收又可以考插班，考左去讀，吾口岩讀咪轉校。不過系間學校，吾好睇到它甘大。
作者: lui 時間: 14-1-18 18:09 標題: 引用：Quote:lui+發表於+14-1-18+11:21+A+friend+
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There are many considerations in choosing a school. It does not mean anyone earning less than 6M a ...
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-1-18 20:25
Yes, majority of the families are very very rich. They have no concern about the cost of an overseas summer school of $60-70K.Almost all of the parents are very educated. Only hear English with native accents when any parent raises questions at any forum or information session. Maybe parents without native accents don't want to ask questions at all! Can easily spot parents around graduated from Oxbridge, Ivy Leaque...
CIS admits some students from "middle class". My personal opinion is that they want to keep the student profile diversified. Last year, CIS started to introduce scholarship for senior students who " could not otherwise afford a CIS education". This is an evidence that CIS wants to diversify further the student profile, though they only admit a handful each year. The students on scholarship are kept confidential so that they won't feel bad about the different family background.
When my kid was at junior primary (at another IS), he asked me why we were living in a flat while most of his classmates were living in houses. I told him ordinary people in HK live in flats! In recent years, I tell him that with our family background, he should not be studying in CIS, as his parents are not rich, and not graduated from Ivy league or Oxbridge. But as he was smart enough to be admitted, we wanted to provide him with the best education he can have.
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作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-1-18 22:25
$30K income for a parent or $60K for a family may be a bit tight to pay for CIS school fee + other activity learning (music and sports etc.) for a kid. Do you agree? Another parent mentioned 10% of family income for education. I think using up to 20% of family income for children education is still affordable. Just my personal opinion.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-1-18 22:59 標題: 引用：$30K+income+for+a+parent+or+$60K+for+a+f
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$30K income for a parent or $60K for a family may be a bit tight to pay for CIS school fee + other a ...
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作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-1-18 23:38
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I think students from local school are possible. Even without scholarship, CIS admits students from local school (usually famous ones), though very limited in no., & they are top students with exceptional English ability.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-19 01:00
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Is the distribution of "affluence" similar in lower and higher grades? I would have thought a lot of the very wealthy families would start from reception and then move to boarding schools over time?
作者: amethyst123 時間: 14-1-19 10:02 標題: 回覆：foolish.mom 的帖子
Totally agree. I went to their information session and the school interview. I have to say it s a very good school and I don't think they only accept students from $$$ families. My focus is to give best education to my kids so they have more options in the future. Whether we are too ordinary compare with other parents, I really don't care much. schools give your kids all academic knowledge and parents teach kids the 'value'.
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 14-1-19 11:47
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My kid joined CIS at year 7, so I have no idea the affluence level of primary. Tend to think there are more middle class in secondary, because CIS admits around 30% more students at year 7, mostly based on academic excellence. Student turnover at secondary is not high, around 5-10% each year.
作者: nintendo 時間: 14-1-19 12:19
bobbycheung 發表於 14-1-18 10:42
家庭月入大概幾多先可負擔到小孩讀 cis?
咁多個 message，係 bobby 兄最實際，但似乎冇人有興趣理呢個較有建設性的 message。
個個就識話自己識邊個邊個點點點，有 d 搞笑。其實某一個人點做，關自己做 decision 乜事？
每個家庭的身家，收入，經濟負擔都唔同。點比？
作者: samsam123321 時間: 14-1-19 13:46
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咁多個 message，係 bobby 兄最實際，但似乎冇人有興趣理呢個較有建設性的 message。
個個就識話自己識邊 ...
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