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作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-9 03:27 標題: 請教:如果大學一定番美國讀

好怕HK教育，但爲了完整家庭，焗住留港(先生在港工作)，我和小朋友本身美藉，先生則加藉。決定18yr入U必回美國，問題在中小學期間又冇能力讀國際，咁情況，我小朋友上小和中學是否不用過於進取呢？(例如勁谷她考名校)，還是由她開開心心朝普通學校爲目標呢？(目標是直資/私校，因n無人士唔夠分自行收生，加上爸爸工作關係有少少教津約$3K，小朋友現於Kv讀K1)

作者: yinwing 時間: 14-1-9 07:39 標題: 回覆：請教:如果大學一定番美國讀

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作者: MrBeast 時間: 14-1-9 07:52

Unless u know exactly what u r doing, 我覺得名校呢家野有時真係要隨緣，kv的課程學術上已很足夠，無為過份吹谷，補下eng 加強oral便可，不過如你target 係ivy league 都要good gpa score，揀中小學都不可掉以輕心。

作者: MrBeast 時間: 14-1-9 07:58

yinwing 發表於 14-1-9 07:39
國際唔係貴直資好多。

我諗都要睇乜is 和dss

作者: conniemar 時間: 14-1-9 08:01 標題: 引用：好怕HK教育，但爲了完整家庭，焗住留港(先

原帖由 siufung 於 14-01-09 發表
好怕HK教育，但爲了完整家庭，焗住留港(先生在港工作)，我和小朋友本身美藉，先生則加藉。決定18yr入U必回 ...

我跟你情況差不多，不過我認為學中文較重要，所以俾小朋友讀本地津小。中學時才回美升學。

作者: kittyland06 時間: 14-1-9 09:04 標題: 回覆：請教:如果大學一定番美國讀

18歲先返美國，你要 make sure 小朋友入英中，考大學唔係你係公民話考就入。我同你類似，不過我會讀完小學就走，所以不用考慮上中學的問題。

作者: iamiris 時間: 14-1-9 09:15 標題: 回覆：siufung 的帖子

我先生都係加藉，但会比小朋友試係hk讀中學，如佢跟到就係hk讀大學，我地target係比佢入英小英中…始終係中國人，想佢學好Ｄ中文。

作者: kbac 時間: 14-1-9 10:25 標題: 引用：我先生都係加藉，但会比小朋友試係hk讀中學

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作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-9 10:30

Focus on Mandarin and English I guess? The kids can always learn Cantonese at home and through the HK living environment.

作者: 晞晞爸b 時間: 14-1-9 10:46

siufung 發表於 14-1-9 03:27
好怕HK教育，但爲了完整家庭，焗住留港(先生在港工作)，我和小朋友本身美藉，先生則加藉。決定18yr入U必回 ...

能感受到樓主的擔心..
我覺得視乎你日後想你既小朋友在邊處發展(即係大學畢業後做野)
如果日後會在華人圈子既...中文始終要打好基礎
當然英文好緊要..但除非他日後都唔會有機會接觸中國人/華人客戶..始終多一種語言.尤其係中文徬身係有利無害既..

我身邊有兩個例子或者可以俾你參考下..
1.我公司既partner係CBC(加拿大出世但係chinese origin)..他由細到大在Nova Scotia省(白人圈子/社區)長大..家裡父母講廣東話之外..全無機會接觸使用中文...現在在港執業(律師)...問題出現..中文睇唔明(唔識睇唔識寫).只識講少少....面對local客戶吹兩句就得...但次次上庭如果對手係一般市民要用中文審訊既..就唔去得要搵人代替(因為他雖然吹得兩句廣東話..但去到法庭他唔敢搏...)
2.我表哥都係CBC...從小父母離異.跟媽媽...媽媽在家同他只講英文完全唔講中文...所以中文對他來講係完全第二種外國語言..他亦無念過日後會需要用到中文...直到他30幾歲出來執業(律師)...在LA執業...點都估唔到現在會做中國人生意(大陸移民去美國及相關事宜)...他由零開始學中文...由講都唔識講焗住要學中文....

上面兩個例子只是參考...當然可能會有人講話日後可以選擇入鬼佬公司做野..無需要接觸到中文/華人客戶....我始終覺得學識自己母語(中文)無壞...你永遠唔知幾時會需要用到...

我自己都有加籍...我仔一出世我都已幫他拿了加籍...我的想法係...由於他太細..所以在小學前呢段時間我想要他留在我們身邊...有家庭溫暖(太細個就去寄宿好慘既)..打好中文/數學基礎..當然英文都要學好...另一方面..我唔想他太細個就dun懶既心..鬼佬教育係比較relax...但我覺得太過鬆懈...
另外..中一好去美國/加拿大喇..因為18歲先去我驚太遲..中一去早D去適應..口音都會好D...

你小朋友讀緊KV已經好好..可以打好既底自動自覺學習...P1入直資..學好D中英數..國際學校我覺得除非你好想入...我反而唔想我仔讀...原因都係唔想太細個太hea...

以上只是個人意見..共勉之..

作者: victoryu19 時間: 14-1-9 10:51

It also depends on which city you go to.

作者: Chujai 時間: 14-1-9 11:04 標題: 引用：Quote:siufung+發表於+14-1-9+03:27+好怕HK

原帖由 晞晞爸b 於 14-01-09 發表
能感受到樓主的擔心..
我覺得視乎你日後想你既小朋友在邊處發展(即係大學畢業後做野)
如果日後會在華人圈 ...

Can't agree more. Same case for me and I think it is better for kids to go overseas after primary. Then they will have a basic foundation of Chinese and start a more open learning methodology in a critical learning age.

作者: picture 時間: 14-1-9 11:31

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If I were you I would send my kid to reputable DSS/Private/ Subsidised local primary and early secondary schools in HK.

then send him/her to boarding school when he/she turns 15.

it is not worth paying costly tuition to International schools at this point given you will be providing international exposure to him later on during his teenage years.

Instead, I would focus on moral values education, family life and Chinese/Putonghua learning at this stage.  There are good subsidized schools in HK that provide good English language training which may not necessarily be inferior to that provided by international school.... For instance, La Salle, St Joseph, Maryknoll, Marymount, Wah Yan.  Those are all good English schools.

As I haven't studied in the US, I am not sure about the entry requirements for the universities there.  I have heard that high SAT scores are paramount.  And some says entrance essays are important.  So I guess, the best way is to send the kid overseas for senior high school years so that some university entrance guidance can be obtained locally from school teachers.

Some International schools in HK are IB through-trained which means primary years are rather relaxed deferring the real-deal to high school years.  Other internal schools in HK use either Canadian,  Australian, UK based curriculum and is not any more suitable for your purpose than the HK curriculum.  Hence you might as well, stay local stream and save up money.

作者: Potato001 時間: 14-1-9 11:47 標題: 回覆：siufung 的帖子

有親戚之前移民加拿大溫哥華，最細的女兒當時只有三歲，在香港讀過一年幼稚園，識講廣東話，在家都講廣東話，返學講英文。親戚有叫我地寄香港小學的中文課本，在家自己教中文，又有訂中文報紙。女孩現在剛大學畢業，能講流利廣東話和英文，普通話ok(有台灣和大陸移民的同學)。中文讀寫程度不清楚，但我們用中文whatsapp和facebook 佢睇得明，有時用中文有時用英文回覆。其實就算外國長大，一樣可以學識中文，所以在香港如果讀國際學校，也一樣可以學。

作者: iamiris 時間: 14-1-9 11:53 標題: 回覆：晞晞爸b 的帖子

我反而想阿仔青春期時陪住佢，唔想佢一個人寂寞，又唔想佢做錯事。

作者: 晞晞爸b 時間: 14-1-9 12:09

iamiris 發表於 14-1-9 11:53
我反而想阿仔青春期時陪住佢，唔想佢一個人寂寞，又唔想佢做錯事。

我太太都係咁念..
到時可以考慮陪太子讀書...

作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-9 15:45

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How are you going to get into good US universities by being "hea" at a so so LS? Being a citizen has better chance of admission but it is still difficult. Or are you happy with any community college or university in the US?

作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-9 15:47

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How did you figure that a good English school is not necessarily inferior to an IS?

作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-9 15:49

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I am sure there are children with very good standard of English at these English schools but if one is comparing the average standard across a class, how can these schools be better in English?

作者: picture 時間: 14-1-9 16:06 標題: 引用：回覆+picture+的帖子 How+did+you+figure+

原帖由 HKTHK 於 14-01-09 發表
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How did you figure that a good English school is not necessarily inferior to an ...

Are you suggesting that an IS student with the worst English proficiency will nonetheless (in any circumstances) still outstanding the best English student from a local school?

作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-9 16:11

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Please read all my messages above

作者: picture 時間: 14-1-9 16:17 標題: 引用：回覆+picture+的帖子 How+did+you+figure+

原帖由 HKTHK 於 14-01-09 發表
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How did you figure that a good English school is not necessarily inferior to an ...

Thomas Fung 17 from local St Joseph's college won the Young Writers Award in 2012

http://www.timeout.com.hk/books/features/50290/hong-kong-young-writers-awards-2012.html

作者: picture 時間: 14-1-9 16:20 標題: 引用：回覆+picture+的帖子 Please+read+all+my+

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Please read all my messages above

Read them all. I MAINTAIN that IS students are not necessarily better in English proficiency than local school students.

An American high school dropout may be less proficient in English than a malaysian who has been well educated in English.

作者: HKTHK 時間: 14-1-9 16:22

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Genius, I am talking about the average. Saying one school can have an outstanding student is like saying the Sun rises from the East.

作者: picture 時間: 14-1-9 16:43

HKTHK 發表於 14-1-9 16:22
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Genius, I am talking about the average. Saying one school can have an outstand ...

So Super Genius,

how do you determine the average???
Are there any systematic way you can get all data from all schools and find out what proficiency level is the so called average?

Surely the sun does rise from the East, and yes, thanks you did agree to that.

A local school student's English proficiency is NOT NECESSARILY inferior to that of an IS student.

Grow up and stop calling me names!!!

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 00:38 標題: 回覆：請教:如果大學一定番美國讀

多谢大家的寶貴意見！真心感激！

我當然希望小女到時入到較好的卜美國大學.....如能考進我自己以前那間(加州柏克萊大學)我已心滿意足！不用話top到什麽哈佛、耶魯....·我不想她hea....但我本人真想等她完成中學才去，因我和先生不想和她在成長中分開....

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 00:50 標題: 回覆：請教:如果大學一定番美國讀

另外，我和先生退休會返美(加州三藩市)，希望小女第日也在美落地生根..其實本人所有親人也在美也有廿幾年了....我因做了“回歸新娘“才留港....基本上，自己中意美國多好多.....

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 01:00 標題: 回覆：MrBeast 的帖子

其實講真，名校要考已超難，小女不才，機會亦渺茫.....而家諗係咪有必要盡谷而已.....不過，即使入到也未必一定是好事，好怕聽見人地話“每晚做功課做到十一、二點

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 01:03 標題: 回覆：kittyland06 的帖子

讀完小學就走會好好多....但我情況不許可....

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 01:04 標題: 回覆：iamiris 的帖子

同你一樣，想入英小和英中....

作者: siufung 時間: 14-1-11 02:56 標題: 引用：Quote:siufung+發表於+14-1-9+03:27+好怕HK

原帖由 晞晞爸b 於 14-01-09 發表
能感受到樓主的擔心..
我覺得視乎你日後想你既小朋友在邊處發展(即係大學畢業後做野)
如果日後會在華人圈 ...

多謝你的分享！！中文是大趨勢之個是不爭的事實。我甥女在美高中，也選修一科中文！不諳中文的竹昇仔其實很蝕底！

作者: cscsmlkyh 時間: 14-1-11 22:11

我都有打算大學送小朋友去美國，先生意思係讀完中學過去，而我覺得at least grade 10 過去，咁起碼有幾年high school, 考大學計分都係由十年級開始計，會好d.  我自己覺得如果 grade 9 開始最好，因為一年適應，之後grade 10, 11 真正計分，grade 12 好輕鬆。咁直接入到大學機會大d, though if start with community college then university can also do but I think it is better to go 4 year college directly.

I have experienced high school in America myself and think if the kid start at a younger age, he/she can fit in a lot better.

Another advantage to start at grade 9/10 is that they can pick up English better.  My friends who go college only  in America might get very good grades in a very good college, but their oral skills really need to be improved.

To me I don't think international school is a must and I too think local school / dss has better training in Chinese which I think is needed as a Chinese, no matter where the kids would locate in the future.  So....i am trying to look for English primary and secondary school for my kid, of course, provided that my kid got accepted.  If my kid is not accepted for the so called ideal school, local school will do the job too.  Since I have experienced it myself, I think local school provide you a pretty good training (academic wise), so that when I study high school in America, I can handle all my classes except English.  I got bad grades in English during high school years (as my writing skills not good enough) but good grades for all other classes.

So.....relax!

Btw, UCB is a good school and very competitive too!  I hope your kid can get in graduate the same college as you!

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