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標題: 上緊 EETC 應否比囝囝出年入讀 S 位 [打印本頁]

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 13-12-2 13:00 標題: 上緊 EETC 應否比囝囝出年入讀 S 位

囝囝去年我私人讀佢地N班, 佢地講左我仔有S位要走, 我當時答應了, 今年開學讀K1,我問可否讓孩子在這裏讀,去上 EETC, 學校話唔得, 因為下午仍有課程要上, 不可能幾年都给我上 EETC, 但最近佢地兼收位老師覺得囝囝可讀他們的兼收位, 但我覺得支援唔夠, 但又怕無幼稚園肯收佢, 因為我去年係將軍澳搵左十幾間, 得呢間收佢,囝囝現在聽字令,自己收拾玩具,識讀晒 N 班書D字,另識500多個中文字, 識寸小小英文字約50個,,數目字 1-100, 中英文講到, 現在教佢中文字, 佢會問我英文点解,自己睇題目做功課, 識讀晒三字經D字, 仲識背哂, 但要提佢第一句, 每段48個字, 唔識全部順序背出來, 識讀晒全部同學仔D名, 複述整套爱牙運動VCD故事內容對白,別人物品要問過至可以取, 但間中會搶小朋友D玩具, 但我話佢錯佢會道歉, 但現在係街推人, 我唔知乜事, 重有d情緒和固執, 佢識自己洗頭沖涼,要少少協助,自己擦牙洗臉穿衣服, 識幫我執拾餐具去廚房,認識全屋家居物品及用途,捉住我同佢玩,認得十幾種顏色,很多型狀, 相悉D人會主動同人打招乎, 唔悉要提,老師也覺得他有小聰明,現在已與老師溝通, 同小朋友就無乜,有開心和不開心識小小表達同我分享, 亦少少明白小朋友為什麽開心和不開心, 現上 EETC ST 應為他認知已接近同齢,表達差三個月,現在將三套24件車 PUZZLE 溝埋,他都能分辯砌出來,SCCW 應為他有些認知已超過同齢小朋友,她拿一堆型狀叫他認,他已急不及待話上面什麽下面什麽中英文講晒出來,她們都覺得有機會讀到主流小學,而家睇到唔識的字會叫我教他讀.EETC OT 治遼師覺得感统問题我已幫他解決,能力已達標,但是高中低能力是低至中,一個月做一次,以免退步,PT評估左話佢肌肉張力底,要加强訓練, 有些能力達標, 但有些能力相差好遠, 今年3月我去參觀S位, 即將畢業小朋友我衹見過－個小朋友導師問佢會主動作答, 其他都要提, 佢地當時教超級市場及講故事,但我仔己經識係超市排隊買野, 如祇買一件佢知道要比幾$,知道可比現金, 百達通或信用咭
1. 孩子在學校和公園很守秩序及规矩, 買野及搭交通工具守規矩, 但在街上無端端推人, 但做左後知錯肯同人道歉
2. 有情緒同固執, 經常衹講自己想講, 唔多理人問佢, 衹想做自己想做D野, 但迫佢都肯做, 但維持唔耐, 同唔專心.
3. 大肌肉整體差5個月才達標, 但最近成日唔肯做 PT.
有無家長小朋友同我仔差唔多,由 EETC 轉去S位有更大進步可分享一

作者: celia1606 時間: 13-12-17 01:42

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作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 13-12-17 09:56

本帖最後由 bauhiniakan2000 於 13-12-17 09:59 編輯

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我覺得E位適合囝囝,但來緊要轉校,囝囝係度返學好開心,放左學間中有和同學仔玩,唔想佢從新適應,又怕無學校收 A仔,現在搵左兩間上午既知道係Ａ仔都唔收.

作者: Anan3388 時間: 13-12-17 10:14

我仔讀過s和e, 睇你情況，e比較啱，因為s位始終睇返間中心嘅做法，和當年同學嘅程度。

我仔當年好細就入，認知叻入咗最叻那班，但個個大佢一二年。佢社交好弱，但同咁大嘅相差就更遠，結果都係無乜機會社交。

始終a仔社交和語言上吸收返普通小朋友嘅較好。

但一般學校係無支援，變咗要加返d小組嚟學社交

而當年就算我仔入咗s位，pt ot 都係自己跟，學校就算一對六，都係擺時間在認知，自理，小肌為多，大肌都係自己操。

個人經驗only

作者: Anan3388 時間: 13-12-17 10:15

若仔真係好鍾意呢間學校，我會選i位留在原校，自己另外加訓練

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 13-12-17 14:28

Anan3388 發表於 13-12-17 10:15
若仔真係好鍾意呢間學校，我會選i位留在原校，自己另外加訓練

學校唔想我請假,下午自費做訓練和 EETC有什麽分别,分別在做 EETC 每月$60,自費做現在 D 訓練要$6000.

作者: Anan3388 時間: 13-12-17 17:21

我都明白呢樣係好難嘅抉擇。真係個人意見only.

我自己全職，所以eetc其實第一年幫到些，第二年好多都係自己已學哂，好多係自己教，上堂成效不及家教，所以我會咁講啫。。。

我間e位，st, ot都只係一個月一堂
St唔太識教自閉，那個鐘頭真係作用不大。。。
當然，若你找到另一間好學校就太好了。咁就唔駛放棄個e。。。

我自己仔讀咗咁多款，真係無款完全fit佢，所以一切都係‘取’和‘捨’，同衡量返你自己個case嘅考慮點。

祝你最後可順利解決啦！

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 13-12-18 11:42

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其實我係全職爸爸,辭左工無請工人,想留多一点將來用,家務自己做,全力照顧囝囝及做3T巳經19個月了,以前囝囝一個月請13日假去做 3T及睇醫生,除訓練外,我每日用3-5個鍾同佢做3T家居訓練及ABA行為訓練,他不會全程合作,要用很多方法及安裝家居設施,自己做一些導師用我找不到的玩具或他可能有興趣的玩具吸引他,仍要逼,要讚,但我從來未打過佢,但我覺得今天兒子比我预期已超額回報了,我有点貪心,希望他能再好一点,其實在出 POST到今天他都有繼續進步,現在 EETC PT每月 2H,OT 每月1H,ST 每月1H,PST每月 1H,社交小組 4H由 ST& PST負責,遊戲治遼 4H,當然我仍有同佢做家居訓練,因為要做學校功課,所以時間缩短了.

作者: apple~y 時間: 13-12-18 12:01

daddy其實你仔進步到超額回報,你會唔會打算出番來工作

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 13-12-18 12:10

本帖最後由 bauhiniakan2000 於 13-12-18 12:25 編輯

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多謝關心,你很久没上來了,現在上緊 EETC,我想可能他讀小學時找一份可照顧囝囝時間的工作,你囝囝明年也升小學了吧,有囝囝同學家長講佢仔明年讀黃澡森,佢個 A 仔真係唔以,中英文都講到,寫字好靚,體能很好,衹覺佢無其他小朋友精靈,見到網頁有 45%教師受過 SEN 學生訓練,希望亞仔都可以去到呢間.

作者: Anan3388 時間: 13-12-18 15:17

哇，原來係爸爸，仲咁有心機，失敬失敬！你都俾咗好多心機時間，佩服佩服！
其實你間e位都算多hrs.唔知你找到幼園未？
至於我仔間幼園我返咗年幾都係返三日，我同老師講咗佢要訓練，加上我仔都坐唔定，減低老師workload，所以返少些大家都同意。
後來佢定返少少，先每日返學。

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-1-18 02:15

13-JAN-2014去 CAC 再做評估,囝囝認知和語言理解與同齡相符,表達及體能較慢,醫生應為囝囝不適合讀 S 位,現在會繼續返 E 位到升小學,重未搵到學校收,有無家長知‧將軍澳肯收A仔的幼稚園嗎,官塘籃田都可以.

作者: YingYin 時間: 14-1-18 08:50

已pm你

作者: kennyrita 時間: 14-3-6 10:44

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我囡4歲, 讀k1, 我囡未及你仔一半, 但上年年9,10月去見cac, 個兒科醫生都話佢無事, 死都唔肯比服務佢, 好彩我地之前係step 做左評估, 已排e 位, 另係外面做私人訓練約一年。
你仔識咁多野, 都要轉s位?

其實是否我對s位有錯誤觀念呢

讀到E 位, 可以識咁多野, 我好期待, 但可能都要掛到差不多5歲先到佢, 唉, 諗起心灰, 我囡可以坐係位度, 但個心雲遊緊, 極度唔專心個d, 又唔好學, 我都唔知點算。

自己又要返工

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-19 01:44

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我仔都可以坐係位度, 但個心都雲遊緊, 都唔專心, 但記性好,祇鐘意佢想學個D,我剛上完兒童精神科課程,,亦都和一位同小兒同校家長去上,亦有和其他家長討論,亦有很多得著,其實一個了解小朋友很重要,我仔之前上過 ABA,TEACC課程,專家都給很多意見,但他們都同意照顧者要懂得個別差異來制定方向策略幫助小朋友.

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-19 01:52

交了 CAC REPORT 話阿仔不適合讀 S 位,建議繼續上 EETC,學校亦答應囝囝原校升K2,終於可放下心頭大石,好開心呀!

作者: Capricorn2521 時間: 14-4-19 08:54 標題: 回覆：bauhiniakan2000 的帖子

恭喜哂!👍

作者: kennyrita 時間: 14-4-22 10:14

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兒童精神科課程係邊度上? ABA,TEACC課程咩課程?

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-22 10:34

兒童精神科要睇左醫生,等醫生轉介,ABA係關愛基金提供機構比我上,TEACCH係我自費既一星期 5 天密集課程.

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-22 10:50

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首先你要比佢知道你好錫同関心佢和了解佢既需要就容易入手好多,2012年4至8月私人S位有埋 ST 25分鍾,9月返全日 N 班,請假去做訓練,除左上服務機構D 訓練,每天家居訓練,大肌肉 PT,公園玩至少一個鍾,OT一個鍾,ST一個鍾,佢唔肯睡或唔使訓練就加碼至5個鍾,他不是每次連續一個鍾都同你合作,有時要車輪戰要佢做,但也有很多不合作的時候,星期六星期日及假期日就去公園玩足三個鍾,落雨或天氣太凍就在屋企同佢玩跑步機或到坑口政府綜合大樓室內遊樂場比佢玩,除非係好不當行為,如打人,推人,大叫,很影響人D野,如果唔係我都會包容佢,在一些不當行為如未發生前不斷同佢講唔好做及後果,要簡短清楚,如火好熱,會辣情,痛痛,我個仔會入廚房睇我煮飯但绝唔會攪煮食爐,ST 比玩具爐佢玩佢都會講,火好熱,會辣情,痛痛,佢從來未搞過危險野,到今天都從未打過佢.
以下是我兒子2012年9月至2013年8月既每日時間表,同 2012年5月 ABA心理學家導師建議我同佢做既項目.
List of all daily routines and favourite activities

Monday :7:45 take him to Kindergartens by walk, 15:00 take him to ST, always by Bus, and tell him what is outside of the Bus , sometimes ask him what is outside e.g. what kind of car is running on the road, Building, Shops, Traffic light and what things of people to do. If time and weather is O.K. take him to playground to play Slide, swing, and climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. The ST training will do at 17:00 to 18:00 leave about at 18:15, go to home by MTR. GET back to home about 19:45 to 20:00. Dinner time at 20:00 to 21:00, ST training with toys at home at 21:00 to 21:30,Bubbles blowing, Teeth bush training ,Bath training and Dressing training at 21:30 to 22:15.IF he do not want to sleep ,will enhance the ST Training. Sometime, the ST and PT training held on same day, will take him to PT by Taxi at 14:00 .Take him to ST on foot and then by MTR at 15:30, there should no time to go to playground. The S T training have complete, the same procedures as every Monday.

Tuesday :7:45 take him to Kindergartens by walk, 16:30 take him from Kindergartens if the weather is O.K. Take him to playground to play Slide, Swing, Spinning climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Supermarket to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, make dinner at 19:30, let him to watch TV , sometime let him to see me how to cook and tell him the name of kitchen tools and utensils. Dinner time at 20:00 to 21:00, ST training with toys at home at 21:00 to 21:30,Bubbles blowing, Teeth bush training ,Bath training and Dressing training at 21:30 to 22:15.IF he do not want to sleep ,will enhance the ST Training. Sometime he go to OT training, will take him from Kindergartens at 14:30 by Taxi, the same procedures as every Tuesday.

Wednesday: 7:45 take him to Kindergartens by walk, 16:30 take him from Kindergartens if the weather is O.K. Take him to playground to play Slide, Swing, Spinning climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Supermarket to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, make dinner at 19:30, let him to watch TV, sometime let him to see me how to cook and tell him thename of kitchen tools and utensils. Dinner time at 20:00 to 21:00, ST training with toys at home at 21:00 to 21:30,Bubbles blowing, Teeth bush training ,Bath training and Dressing training at 21:30 to 22:15.IF he do not want to sleep ,will enhance the ST Training.
Thursday: 7:45 take him to Kindergartens by walk, 16:30 take him from Kindergartens if the weather is O.K. Take him to playground to play Slide, Swing, Spinning climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Supermarket to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, make dinner at 19:30, let him to watch TV, sometime let him to see me how to cook and tell him the name of kitchen tools and utensils. Dinner time at 20:00 to 21:00, ST training with toys at home at 21:00 to 21:30,Bubbles blowing, Teeth bush training ,Bath training and Dressing training at 21:30 to 22:15.IF he do not want to sleep ,will enhance the ST Training.

Friday: 7:45 take him to Kindergartens by walk, take him from Kindergartens to Behavioral Goals by MTR at 14:45 .when the Behavioral goals is complete if the weather is O.K. Take him to playground to play Slide, Swing, Spinning climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Mac Donald to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. Let him say what he need, pay and money exchange. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, make dinner at 19:30, let him to watch TV, sometime let him to see me how to cook and tell him the name of kitchen tools and utensils. Dinner time at 20:00 to 21:00, ST training with toys at home at 21:00 to 21:30,Bubbles blowing, Teeth bush training ,Bath training and Dressing training at 21:30 to 22:15.IF he do not want to sleep ,will enhance the ST Training.

Saturday: he will wake up at 10:00, then take him to teeth brush and wash training, give different drinks to try, play toys with him.11:300 lunch time. 13:00-15:00 took him to a more facilities playground to play by MTR, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Mac Donald to take him to queue to buy one foods and say what he need and pay, money exchange. let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. OT training with toys and afternoon sleep.18:00-19:00 free time for him to do what he like. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, 19:30 Make dinner for him and let him watch TV, some time let him see me how to cook what kind of food I 20:00-21:00 dinner time.ST training with toys at 21:00, 21:30 Bubble blowing, Teeth bush, Bath, dressing Training to 22:15.
If he do not want to sleep, will enhance the ST training.

Sunday: he will wake up at 10:00, then take him to teeth brush and wash training, give different drinks to try, play toys with him.11:300 lunch time. 13:00-15:00 took him to a more facilities playground to play by MTR, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Mac Donald to take him to queue to buy one foods and say what he need and pay, money exchange. let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. OT training with toys and afternoon sleep.18:00-19:00 free time for him to do what he like.19:00 OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00 Make dinner for him and let him watch TV at 19:30, some time let him see me how to cook what kind of food I make.20:00-21:00 dinner time.ST training with toys at 21:00, 21:30 Bubble blowing, Teeth bush, Bath, dressing Training to 22:15.
If he do not want to sleep, will enhance the ST training.

What are the expected procedures?

Try to let him to walk to Kindergartens and let him see facilities of the street, what kind of things people to do. Let him tell me. Take him to ST, always by Bus, and tell him what is outside of the Bus, sometimes ask him what is outside e.g. what kind of car is running on the road, Building, Shops, Traffic light and what things of people to do. If time and weather is O.K. take him to playground to play Slide, swing, and climbing games, and try to let him modeling play with other kids. This is such as PT and Social contact and Behavioral goal. Go to Supermarket to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience, let him
say what he need pay and money exchange. Go to Mac Donald to take him to queue to buy one things, let him to know the procedure of buying things and patience. Let him say what he need, pay and money exchange. OT training with toys and pens to do with him at 19:00, and let him say what is he doing.

What are his need and wants during those times? What does he dislike?

He need more encourage during this time, such toys and food, and speech. He dislike with not encourage and some of training he feel hard to do and he ever do.

Start with one routine, make a list of the phrases that he can learn to say

Turn off the light, he can say the environment is dark, turn on the light, the switch is near the door. Take his chair for him to urinating, he can say go to kitchen to take the chair. Hide some part of his toys, he can say lost the parts. Hide his toys always to play he can ask me find out for him.

Respond enthusiastically when he vocalizes, especially with eye contact.

Play Train and Tracks with him and let him count trains and tracks with me near my face, alternate to play with trains and tracks, alternate to blow bubbles, bath with him and let him to see me how to use the towel. Take the thing he like to bath with him and put it near my face, then let him ask me to take.

E.G. Lunch time
a. He can ask different food and utensils.
b. Request different actions (e.g. pour water or juce, cut up veggies)
c. Unexpected events (e.g.no utensils, no water in cup)

E.g. Playdough stamping
a. Take out the playdough, some time he cannot open he can say cannot open,BA BA help
b. Roll the playdough ,he can say roll the playdough.
c. Press shapes onto playdough ,he can say what shape is on the surface.
d. naming the shape ,showing to others. He can say the ssapes only

Prompt: by modeling, not by question-asking or forcing child imitate verbally.

2. Play skills Behavioral goal: He will beable to enage in constructive play independently.

Example of age –Appropriate play
Playdough, can making shapes but no food.
He can building train tracks and push the train, refill Battery, and say what parts of the train.
He can complete a little part
He can Building a block tower about 10 blocks.
He can stamping on paper with a frame.
Farm set is doing now, cook set is done, doctor’s kit not done.

Reinforcement: Lavish praise and tangible reinforces.
3. Imitation
Behavioral goal: He will be able to imitate other’s sounds, actions,gestures and movement spontanaeously.
Activities to try:
Singing Songs with hand or fingers movements ,some times can do.
Cannot imitating animals sounds.
Commenting in daily activities. E.g.”yum!”or “I am full” while Patting tummy.
Using musical instruments,e.g. rattle or drums.
He can Cooking food or drinking from a cup in cook set play

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-22 11:19

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兒子現在4歲了, ST 評估兒子語言認知及表達巳達標,能力 4-4歲半,OT評估小手肌達標,PST 評估認知比同齡快兩年,但 PT 評估體能慢了7個月,因為經常流鼻血,PT經常要停左等佢唔流兩三曰才做得.

作者: Vichang 時間: 14-4-22 11:44 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+bauhiniakan2000+於+14-4-22+1

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兒子現在4歲了, ST 評估兒子語言認知及表達巳達標, ...

叻叻囝囝，叻叻爸爸。

作者: bauhiniakan2000 時間: 14-4-23 11:52

囝囝同學仔同佢媽咪講,某小朋友病左唔返學比老師鬧,但我囝講,唔係呀,因為佢扭媽咪計,遲到窄.

作者: Vichang 時間: 14-4-23 18:41 標題: 引用：囝囝同學仔同佢媽咪講,某小朋友病左唔返學

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囝囝同學仔同佢媽咪講,某小朋友病左唔返學比老師鬧,但我囝講,唔係呀,因為佢扭媽咪計,遲到窄. ...

咁叻識得分析喎。

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