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標題: My girl wants to study grade 9 in UK next year, your suggestion please. [打印本頁]

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 00:10 標題: My girl wants to study grade 9 in UK next year, your suggestion please.

Though she is my only daughter and is a little bit sticky, she is willing to study aboard.
She is quiet, plays piano up to level 6 and likes swimming. Her favourite subjects are English, Spanish, Science and Geography. I think her academic results should be at the upper middle level.

Any recommended school for her?

I have approached an agent (da**) at Grand Plaza of Mongkok. Is it reliable?

作者: bigfoothk 時間: 13-11-19 01:15

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作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 08:46

Thanks.

As I saw many ppl have quoted AA, may try it later.

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-11-19 09:34 標題: 回覆：ah_chong 的帖子

經AA申請排名一百以內的中學例如Charterhouse, Tonbridge, Brighton，Harrow等學校最好是每年九月中前經AA辦理，因AA舉辧的名校周通常是每年約十月校長過來香港進行面試和筆試，現在才經AA相信AA會説很多名校已夠人而介紹其它排名較後的學校。

作者: bigfoothk 時間: 13-11-19 10:06

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作者: Pizza_Hut 時間: 13-11-19 10:31

bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-19 10:06
網上見有校長來推介學校，直接對話，好過隔山買牛

請問邊個website?
已去過British council schools fairs , 入便嘅學校係ft ranking 無排名, 網上資料都吾多

Thx

作者: bigfoothk 時間: 13-11-19 11:22

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作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 11:44

bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-19 11:22
海外升學服務中心, 29/11Stover School,30/11Gloucestershire College.3/12Cambridge Regional College (CR ...

Thanks for information. But the ranking of these schools are very low...

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 11:53

CPU1995 發表於 13-11-19 09:34
經AA申請排名一百以內的中學例如Charterhouse, Tonbridge, Brighton，Harrow等學校最好是每年九月中前經AA ...

Would these high rank schools have quota for different agents?

If it is too late, I may consider to defer the plan to 2015.

I'm also gathering some information of Cheltenham, Headington, St Catherine and Badminton as you have recommended in another post.

In fact, would these high rank schools difficult to apply. Where can I find the number of HK students accepted by them.

I have shortlisted Burgess Hill and St Mary (Cambridge) from my agent. Any view on them?

作者: bigfoothk 時間: 13-11-19 11:58

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作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-11-19 12:08

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作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 12:12

bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-19 11:58
thx,合理低,但之前見sherfield school 也是低,現任校長是st paul 前校長,舊教師去新校任教,會較st paul 易 ...

Thanks, but I would rather prefer full boarding girl school.

作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-11-19 12:54

本帖最後由 peter_pan 於 13-11-19 12:55 編輯

Looks like you are keen on girls' schools rather than co-ed schools.
If your daughter is quiet, she may benefit from a smaller school where there is a more cozy family feel rather than a big school where one can get lost easily. That will mean St Catherine & Badminton (both ~ 500 girls) rather than CLC & Headington (both ~ 800 girls).
Another 2 even smaller schools I would recommend highly are St Mary's (Ascot) and Tudor Hall (both ~350 girls).
You should take a look at their websites and write / e-mail the schools & apply directly, but you need to do it soon as most schools will have their entry exams in Jan.

作者: spiderlily 時間: 13-11-19 13:01

sancheng138 發表於 13-11-19 12:08
大部分D家長淨係知道AA, 搞到D申請好公式化，又跟唔貼，遲申請又下下話無位，又叫你選其他，其實市面上仲有 ...

Agreed.

I don't like AA as well.

If they have enough "qualified" applications for high ranking schools, they would suggest you to take other schools, not a fair game to every applicants.

Besides, AA treats applicants from local elite schools and those ordinary schools differently.

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-19 14:05 標題: 回覆：CPU1995 的帖子

AA's Top School Week is hosted in end September, and better apply as early as June or July! I called the consultant in early July and she said that I was rather late and not many timeslots available for my son during Top Schools Week.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 14:29

peter_pan 發表於 13-11-19 12:54
Looks like you are keen on girls' schools rather than co-ed schools.
If your daughter is quiet, she ...

Quoted from St Mary's website:

"If you wish to apply for entry to St Mary's, we suggest that you register your daughter at least two years prior to the year of entry. This will place your daughter on the candidate list to sit our entrance examination."

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-19 14:44 標題: 回覆：ah_chong 的帖子

Yes ar, most top uk schools would have this policy stated in their website, but no harm send email asking them if you are keen, especially you are overseas student! Tonbridge also have this policy on their website but we can still apply a year before!

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-19 15:28

你依家申請真係太遲啦, 排名高一定無可能啦。我9月頭都試過自己send email去幾間申請, 全部都話close晒啦。

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-19 15:42

Just send email to CLC and St Mary. Try my best la!

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-19 16:50

Bigfoot HK

我無諗過插班，我send email俾嗰幾間都係講到明係for year 10/2014, 全部都好快就覆我話已close啦。

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-19 17:13

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yes la. no harm try try, my friend applied for year 10 and year 8 for her daughters even in the Jan/Feb of the same 入學 year ! she could get chance to sit entrance exams of 4-5 top girl schools. 世上無難事,只要有心!吾試一定吾得,試咗可能又得! don't hesitate to try! I learned this from my friend and I teach my son to think and act so too !

作者: skIII 時間: 13-11-19 17:50

本帖最後由 skIII 於 13-11-19 17:50 編輯

AA都有個好處，多人搵佢，佢接觸過的學生及學校多，只要報上學生就讀學校及成績，佢已經可以話比你聽個學生的程度及可以報的學校，可能其他agent都可以，但我覺得佢真係幾準，因為一般家長最難的是搵與子女能力匹配的學校，有佢呢一方面的資料，下一步就會容易。

作者: victoriatio 時間: 13-11-19 17:52 標題: 引用：Just+send+email+to+CLC+and+St+Mary.++Try

原帖由 ah_chong 於 13-11-19 發表
Just send email to CLC and St Mary. Try my best la!

R u preparing for year 9 admission ?

作者: 思樂媽媽 時間: 13-11-19 17:54

Cheltenham Ladies' College. The deadline of the application is 1st Dec 2013. And the exams will take place during the week commencing Monday 6th January 2014. and girls will take five exam papers in total; English, Maths, Science, Verbal Reasoning and Modern Language.

Headington School
The deadline of the application is 22nd November 2013
Exams date will take on 12th January, 2014

Badmington School
The deadline of the application is 21st November 2013
Exams date will take on 4th January, 2014

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-19 21:57 標題: 回覆：My girl wants to study grade 9 in UK next year, your suggestion please.

Headington & badminton 9月尾嚟過香港interview,係through AA. In 咗ok 先俾registration fee再考試，咁其實都幾方便。

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-20 08:53

Just received the reply from St Mary :

"Thank you for your email but our 2014 lists are closed, and actually have been for some months now. We have already started the admissions process for the 2014 entry.

I am sorry we cannot help."

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-20 09:04

思樂媽媽發表於 13-11-19 17:54
Cheltenham Ladies' College. The deadline of the application is 1st Dec 2013. And the exams will take ...

Thanks for your information. Will try Headington and Badmington today.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-20 09:17

For the two schools which are recommended from my agent, I have gathered the following information.  Grateful for your comment.

St Mary (Cambridge): Campus is small.  Rules are very strict.  New campus (?) for year 12 & 13.  Has photography, Psychology and Drama subjects.  Private room for Year 12 & 13 students.  Good results in Arts and Music subjects.

Burgess Hill : Big Campus (14 acres). 1 hr to London & Heathrow Airport. 10% students (70+) are boarders and nearly all are Chinese.  Good results in Science subjects.

作者: caa 時間: 13-11-20 09:50

AA is the exclusive agent of headington if things haven't changed

作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-11-20 12:23

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作者: caa 時間: 13-11-20 12:47

sancheng138 發表於 13-11-20 12:23
甘hard sell? I have a very bad experience with AA, 搵日係我的日誌分享俾你地知，借以為鑑!mo ...

Why do you say "hard sell"?

I am not with AA or any agent. I am telling the truth because I know even if you email directly to Headington, Headington would refer you to AA (if things haven't changed). I just tell what I know and hope it is helpful to someone needing the info.

作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-11-20 13:03

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作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-20 13:05

sancheng138 發表於 13-11-20 12:23
甘hard sell? I have a very bad experience with AA, 搵日係我的日誌分享俾你地知，借以為鑑!mo ...

我,touch wood, 暫時個consultant都follow 得幾好, 起碼有問必答，安排考試, interview都算交帶，好定唔好都會答我。

作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-11-20 13:07

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作者: 茱媽 時間: 13-11-20 13:12 標題: 回覆：hahe 的帖子

8月底開始聯絡AA, 個agent一路都跟得幾好，暫時幾滿意。

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-20 13:19

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希望我哋大家都有好消息啦!

作者: spiderlily 時間: 13-11-20 16:19

AA 一般採取門當户對策略, St Pxx Co-edu, DXS.等報Tonbridge / Charterhouse / Headington 一律沒問題, 若地區學校 even band 1 top batch 會叫你報排名低一大截的, 有一例子是某朋友兒子在band 1 成績優異, 在AA被拒報Charterhouse, 結果他找另一agent 報而又被取錄

In fact, AA would choose those schools that would definitely take your kids rather than letting them a fair chance to try some challenging one. That is why people think AA is good in selection. However, AA refuses to grant a chance for those who might be seen as boarder line by themselves. This is good and bad depending on which angle we look at.

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-20 16:36 標題: 回覆：spiderlily 的帖子

so u mean if AA quickly recommend a school to the kid, it's likely he can match the level, pass the exams and get an offer ?

作者: skIII 時間: 13-11-20 17:01

可能我地好彩，AA跟我個CASE嗰agent真係幾好，不過這是幾年前的經驗，另外佢建議的學校是我地上去傾的，當然我地帶哂學生學校成績，我地同AA冇任何關連，只係講出自己同佢接觸的體會。

作者: DoReMi媽媽 時間: 13-11-20 17:09

想知有冇學生係經AA入到CLC？

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-20 18:04

caa 發表於 13-11-20 09:50
AA is the exclusive agent of headington if things haven't changed

Just get the reply from Headington and it matches what you say:

"Provided that you meet our Noon deadline with Academic Asia we can accept the application."

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-20 19:29 標題: 回覆：DoReMi媽媽的帖子

CLC係冇用agent 㗎，所以AA唔會同你報。

作者: DoReMi媽媽 時間: 13-11-20 21:12

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hahe 發表於 13-11-20 19:29
CLC係冇用agent 㗎，所以AA唔會同你報。

正確嚟講， CLC係唔會俾佣agent, 所以縱使小朋友成績達到，學校有幾好，佢都唔會recommend俾學生，我有朋友囡想入CLC，揾佢哋幫手，佢哋只係不斷話佢聽佢囡成績唔夠，入唔到的，朋友後尾知道，原來CLC唔會俾佣agent，所以佢哋唔會幫佢搞，因為冇錢賺，最後佢揾鬼婆嗰間幫佢搞，人哋明知冇錢賺，都幫佢辦手續，最終佢囡經鬼婆間agent入咗CLC, 以我所知，鬼婆嗰間唔會因為冇錢賺而免去一啲學校唔俾學生選擇，白做都冇所謂。

我有另一個朋友女都係經鬼婆嗰間入咗CLC（agent根據佢女成績sort out一啲學校出嚟俾朋友選擇， CLC係其中一間，結果佢女入咗CLC），佢一直唔知agent冇錢賺白做， agent亦冇提（係後尾經其他人口中先知agent白做的）過程中， agent好幫手，完全冇冷待，仲跟晒學生所有嘢，一直至佢女畢業，白做都咁上心，我覺得鬼婆哩間好好

。

CLC唔係冇用agent, 學生一樣可以經agent apply CLC, 問題係agent會唔會白做。

佢哋只係當一盤生意咁做，佢哋嘅意見，會牽涉到利益，如果想攞中肯意見，佢未必係最好選擇。

作者: DoReMi媽媽 時間: 13-11-20 21:15

sancheng138 發表於 13-11-20 13:03
可能AA跟得你CASE好掛, 但有經AA apply的家長們吾覺得佢地做得很流水作業，跟得很公式化嗎？因為top school full左所以要報第二間排名低一大節的學校，我吾覺得AA真心為小朋友著想，顧住做生意多囉! 唉.....純個人經驗，請不要介意!

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-20 21:55 標題: 回覆：DoReMi媽媽的帖子

純粹個人意見，上得呢啲agent都預咗佢會賺＄，佢冇＄賺點俾租同請咁多staffs. 但AA都同我講得好清楚佢哋唔會幫我報邊幾間，如想申請可以自己去直接同學校申請，咁我緊係明AA一定係冇＄賺所以先唔會幫我報，但個consultant都冇講類似話好難入好難收呢啲說話。我之後都有幾間係唔會俾＄agent䁠嘅學校想報，亦都打去問過另一間agent,佢話佢都可以幫我報嗰幾間，不過我過唔到自己個關，因為其實自己申請都好容忍，唔想要搵人幫我白做又冇＄賺。

作者: 思樂媽媽 時間: 13-11-20 22:11

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1. Headington 如果校方接受申請, 可做registration 先, 比registration fee, 就算9月冇 1st interview 過, 佢地都會可以安排香港的獵頭人SEND EMAIL 約小朋友作一次 2nd interview, 不過這個interview 要比$1600 獵頭人的, 之後1月12日安排筆試.

2. St. Mary 都有幾間, 而其中一間Ascot, 如小朋友是天主教徒才會有優先考慮接受申請的.

3. CLC 和 St. Catherine 是可以經某些agent 報的, 但當然要比額外 $2000 的手續費.

4. Burgess Hill School for Girls 如報了, 估計12月初會有筆試.

GOOD LUCK FOR ALL OF YOU

作者: DoReMi媽媽 時間: 13-11-20 22:25

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hahe 發表於 13-11-20 21:55
純粹個人意見，上得呢啲agent都預咗佢會賺＄，佢冇＄賺點俾租同請咁多staffs. 但AA都同我講得好清楚佢哋唔 …

當然，有家長識得自己去揾資料，識得自己去比較學校，自然識得選擇，識得自己直接聯絡學校報名，但同時亦有家長，本身對英國學校學制不熟悉的，就要借助agent的專業，根據孩子的能力，去為孩子選擇合適的學校，為孩子辦理入學手續，所以，當agent有利益誘因影響下，就會剥削學生應該入讀到好學校的權利，雖然係agent，但哩門生意係干係到莘莘學子的前途，喺揾錢的同時，係咪都可以有一點厚道呢？

我亦相信，家長揾得agent去搞，唔會諗住要佔agent便宜，純粹希望以agent的專業去為孩子作出最穩妥的安排。

其實，哩個回文，不是要針對任何agent，只係剖析俾有意揾agent為孩子選擇學校的家長，明白到，有agent會因為學校冇俾佣金，而免去哩啲學校唔俾家長選擇，但同時，亦有啲agent，會根據孩子能力，安排合適學校俾家長選擇，哪怕學校係唔會俾佣agent，安排孩子進入合適學校係主，賺錢係次。

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-20 22:36 標題: 回覆：思樂媽媽的帖子

其實我反而唔明點解headington飛嚟hk 1st in 完後，仲要2nd in 兼要俾$1600，其實in完一次再加埋考試都應該足夠，再唔係都可以Skype嚟in, 唉，希望倒完水有好消息啦。

作者: Cathyleung63588 時間: 13-11-21 00:09

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作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 13-11-21 07:12

本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 13-11-21 07:17 編輯

CLC, 我印象中, 可以選在香港AA 考, 或去英國考

AA 我印象良好, 跟得貼....

幾乎身邊的朋友都係AA跟去英國

AA 公式化, 你考試,, 夠什麼成績

便可以選那些

否則, 好多人想博名校

200人, 第一輪面試

西走淨下50人

不滿意人多

PS: 不是AGENT

CLC 第一輪收生結果, 應該12月左右有

等第二輪, 我怕你好成績都冇用, 冇位俾你

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 09:11

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hahe 發表於 13-11-20 22:36
其實我反而唔明點解headington飛嚟hk 1st in 完後，仲要2nd in 兼要俾$1600，其實in完一次再加埋考試都應該 ...

Do you mean the 2nd in needs to be held in UK?

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 09:32

本帖最後由 ah_chong 於 13-11-21 09:41 編輯

Got the reply from Badminton and she also adviced me to apply via AA.

I start to understand their value of existence and business model, but also has little concern on the keen competition as the school of my daughter is not so famous.

Anyway, I have got a lot of good information here and I should blame my late decision and action.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 09:40

本帖最後由 ah_chong 於 13-11-21 09:45 編輯

I have gathered some location information of different schools and wonder if the transportation is a critical factor as she needs to return HK three times yearly. What do you think?

Also,as Cathyleung63588 said, is it not preferable to be near London as there are too many Chinese?

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-21 09:56 標題: 回覆：ah_chong 的帖子

Headington 揾個人係hk 2nd in. 但要直接俾＄抬頭寫俾呢個人

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-11-21 10:19 標題: 回覆：ah_chong 的帖子

個人認爲交通從來都不是選校的因素，一些遠至wales的學校在exeat會安排coach送學生到機場，一些學校則會安排數個學生乘搭一部的士到機場，視乎學校的安排，小兒就算回港都是搭九千多元機票的轉機，而不是BA或CX.

至於中五或以下的學生，一般都不准獨自離校，多唔多中國學生很視乎學校的排名，同近唔近倫敦冇乜關係。友人就讀一間排名二百多的學校，有成三成中國學生，讀了一年便幫他兒子轉校。

至於AA, 的確是徧愛傳統名校的學生，我識讀傳統名校的學生經AA都會入到排名頭幾十的學校。

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-21 10:40 標題: 回覆：CPU1995 的帖子

does it mean even HK famous international school is "inferior" in the eyes of AA and UK top schools ?

作者: DoReMi媽媽 時間: 13-11-21 11:05

本帖最後由 DoReMi媽媽於 13-11-21 11:31 編輯

哈哈～哈，或者唔應該叫agent（縱使佢係收佣

作為家長，我只會留意佢會點樣幫到我，好小留意對佢哋的稱謂，原來有家長會介意點稱呼佢哋

），叫返education consultant會好聽啲，對於CLC嚟講，AA係考試中心罷了，我冇記錯，朋友係喺鬼婆office考，Badminton就喺AA考(唔係經AA申請），一個考試中心。

作者: JoannMok 時間: 13-11-21 11:36

bigfoothk 發表於 13-11-19 11:22
海外升學服務中心, 29/11Stover School,30/11Gloucestershire College.3/12Cambridge Regional College (CR ...

is it opened for public to visit? or is it a school fair?
i just want to start on getting the information now. but not the stage to apply

作者: JoannMok 時間: 13-11-21 11:42

Ruby1219 發表於 13-11-19 14:05
AA's Top School Week is hosted in end September, and better apply as early as June or July! I called ...

can you share with me on your searching? tks

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-21 12:02 標題: 回覆：JoannMok 的帖子

what do your want to know ?

作者: hahe 時間: 13-11-21 12:13 標題: 回覆：My girl wants to study grade 9 in UK next year, your suggestion please.

我覺得係毫無經驗之下，去AA到take咗個tests 先，睇下自己小朋友既程度，AA會俾返個分數你睇，你順便check下佢邊方面弱啲，咁可以自己返去谷下嗰方面既問題。至於之後你聽唔聽佢advice報啲乜學校或through 唔through佢報，都係你哋自己決定，就算take咗個tests都唔一定要揾佢報。另外其實英國嗰邊都係咁上下，佢哋特別鐘意某啲香港學校既學生。

作者: bigfoothk 時間: 13-11-21 12:25

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作者: JoannMok 時間: 13-11-21 12:53

Ruby1219 發表於 13-11-21 12:02
what do your want to know ?

in many of post, mami is talking about the ranking. is there any website that i can find the information? there are mani give the link. but some are saying that there are limination etc........ just see where can i start on

tks

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-11-21 13:08

點評
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bigfoothk 如學校安排的士數個學生share嗎? 發表於 2 小時前"

學校會book taxi及在School bill 入數，當然是數個學生share, 就算是160 pound, 4個學生每人都是40 pounds.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 14:14

Just find a news dated last year from Google:

"CONFIRMED – Drugs Found At Burgess Hill School For Girls"

Need to re-consider la.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 14:30

CPU1995 發表於 13-11-21 10:19
... 多唔多中國學生很視乎學校的排名 ...

Is it because those top rank schools offer limited seats for Chinese students or the competition is keen among the boarders from different countries?

I still cannot find any source reporting the country distribution of boarders of the schools.

I also heard that "small circle" is common in top rank schools because they like to accept students of particular famous schools in HK.

作者: ah_chong 時間: 13-11-21 14:56

Anyone heard about Woldingham School?

Her 2013 A-level (%A*/A) and GCSE (%A*/A) are 55.3% (rank 58) and 78.14% (rank 17). Seems quite good. Also, its campus is huge (700 acres).

作者: demio 時間: 13-11-21 15:05

hahe 發表於 13-11-21 12:13
我覺得係毫無經驗之下，去AA到take咗個tests 先，睇下自己小朋友既程度，AA會俾返個分數你睇，你順便check ...

家長要留意如果已經自行向心儀的學校報名, AA係唔會中間接手跟進；所以家長如想用Agent全程代為跟進, 應經Agent報名! 由其是那些名校, 自己報名的可能要2年前入申請表，但經agent可能只要一年已足夠；詳細情況最好同你地的agent查詢。

作者: 思樂媽媽 時間: 13-11-21 19:57

回覆 hahe 的帖子

其實2nd INTERVIEW 都不是有什麼特別的, 多是問關於申請者的家庭背景及一些學校生活的事.
至於不做 SKYPE 之類的 INTERVIEW, 這個不敢肯定.
我只知美國有些的做法是要家長安排去到當地才 INTERVIEW, 因為有試過案例 SKYPE INTERVIEW 時 INTERVIEW 中的所謂申請人與到當地讀書的人樣子有出入. 所以有些美國學校比較嚴.

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-11-22 08:23 標題: 回覆：JoannMok 的帖子

u can search uk school ranking of financial times

作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-11-23 11:51

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