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作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-28 19:05 標題: ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

I can't believe it! We have applied for K1 at Esf tsing yi and were looking forward to have interview / play session. Unfortunately just got a letter saying our son would be placed on the wait list. They said they have received a large number of application and they are not in the position to offer our son a place. Application fee is 300 peer person, I wonder how much money they make from it. Feel ripped off!

作者: chumiguan 時間: 13-10-28 19:15 標題: 回覆：ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

Oh! I just applied this Sun. $300 is just wasting money!

作者: 小之爸 時間: 13-10-28 20:38

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作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-28 21:15

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Don't be disappointed until you receive their letter. You may get an interview. Just that I wonder what they look for when selecting candidates for interview. Or is it first come first serve? Anyone knows?

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-28 21:27

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Yea.... They should have just stopped accepting application if the are not going to offer any more interview or they should have refunded the 300. I don't see they have processed our application, why do we have to pay the 300 processing fee? I feel like HKTV, got rejected for no/unknown reason.
Anyone of you here has an interview offer? How early did you send out your application?

作者: steplovebb 時間: 13-10-28 22:13

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If you have read their website carefully, you should know ESF has priority system, children of ESF staff, siblings have highest priority.There are only 4 kinders but around 20 ESF schools (including primary and secondary and private schools plus ESL staff....
Then the siblings of these school, the places for outsiders are very limited. It's not surprised that no interview is offered. Unlike local schools which interview must be offered, many international schools do not offered interview even you paid for several hundred or thousands

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-28 22:52

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We are actually aware of their priority system, but possibly underestimate the number of siblings and kids of staff. We have never thought of the fact that the net extends all the way up to primary and and secondary school and of course good that you pointed out there are 20 esf schools! We understand that making an application does not guarantee interview for most schools, and 300 is a lot less that many other schools are charging, but I feel odd to receive the rejection letter this soon and I suppose my application had just gone directly to the bin once they received it. Processing fee? Where is the processing? That's my point.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-10-28 23:27

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123mummy 發表於 13-10-28 22:52
I feel odd to receive the rejection letter this soon and I suppose my application had just gone directly to the bin once they received it. Processing fee? Where is the processing? That's my point. ...

It is not exactly a rejection, they have placed you on the waiting list, and may well invite your family to a play visit (interview) later on.

What it really means is, you are not in the first round of play visits, but as time progresses, there will be people who decline offers and there will be further rounds of interviews.

作者: chowbeanbeanchu 時間: 13-10-28 23:30

robbing?! crazy! i have applied too but not yet submitted the document! should i proceed?

作者: Starbuck 時間: 13-10-29 08:49 標題: 回覆：chowbeanbeanchu 的帖子

Yes you should. It's no different from buying lottery. The difference is you are buying hope if you don't have priority.

作者: c200 時間: 13-10-29 09:52

It is so strange! ! ! They sent out the waiting list letter during the application period .....

作者: lanjarbi 時間: 13-10-29 10:18

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hi, may i know if u ever visit the school (which for parents only) when u apply it? just wondering if it's related to getting a place for interview. thanks

作者: listergirl 時間: 13-10-29 10:32

Same here. I applied for K1 at hillside last year, we also got the letter saying my daughter placed on waiting list. My friend applied first time this year but can get the chance for interview. What's the rule?

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-29 10:55

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To me "on the waitlist" is just a better term than "you are rejected". But thanks, your explanation lights up my hope again. You sound familiar with their intake process. Is there anything you can share regarding their second round interview? Was there even one in the past?

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-29 11:01

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We didn't schedule for a parents tour. The first one started on 8th Oct. If attending the tour makes a difference they should have arranged some tours earlier than 1st Oct (the application start date).

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-29 11:02

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Do apply for it. Maybe you would get an interview, who knows?

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-29 11:16

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Yes..... Totally puzzled! For those of you who do not have priority but get an interview, I would be grateful if you could share your specifics, say application date, and any other related aspects.

作者: simoncho1 時間: 13-10-29 11:36 標題: 回覆：ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

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作者: simoncho1 時間: 13-10-29 11:41 標題: 回覆：simoncho1 的帖子

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作者: vinvillalee 時間: 13-10-29 11:42

ESF d 學校就是這樣. 我上年報ESF 小學及RC 。一樣收左$$之後連面試機會都冇! RC 成$800報名費.

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-10-29 12:03

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Thanks for checking it out. But it is not even the end of October yet! If I interprete it correctly, for those who send out application after 31st Oct will definitely be placed on the wait list. I always think there is a chance of interview as long as we send the application in Oct but looks like first come first serve is also applied to the pool of applications they receive within the suggested application period, i.e., 1st to 31st Oct, or there are some other screening criteria that we do not meet.
P. S. We did the application between the first and second week of Oct, would it make a difference if we had sent it out earlier? what is the secret of being screened out?

作者: pollybell 時間: 13-10-29 12:05

vinvillalee 發表於 13-10-29 11:42
ESF d 學校就是這樣. 我上年報ESF 小學及RC 。一樣收左$$之後連面試機會都冇! RC 成$800報名費. ...

唔係ESF 先係咁，其他有些收左錢都係無面試，話放在waiting list，每年會問下你重繼唔繼續排。

作者: vinvillalee 時間: 13-10-29 12:19

冇收過ESF的信/email 問我

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-10-29 12:23

123mummy 發表於 13-10-29 10:55
To me "on the waitlist" is just a better term than "you are rejected". ...

Being on the waiting list means your child has a chance, but how big or slim that chance is I wouldn't know because it will depend on so many variables.

In the past, first round of interviews typically starts in January, and they do hold further rounds. By April things are mostly settled, so if your family is not invited by then you will know the chance is quite slim.

作者: simoncho1 時間: 13-10-29 12:24 標題: 回覆：123mummy 的帖子

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作者: simoncho1 時間: 13-10-29 12:34 標題: 回覆：ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

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作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-10-29 13:04

Why did you still aplly for ESF K1 instead of Year 1?
Last year, there were lots of ESF Kinder students who could not get intervews for ESF Year! Also if you don't belong to the "priority group", you chance of finally getting promoted to Year 1 is slim :(

作者: c200 時間: 13-10-29 15:45

ESF should not send out the waiting list letter during the application period, if they send it out in NOV, I dont think "123Mummy" will complain about it.

作者: chumiguan 時間: 13-10-29 23:19 標題: 回覆：ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

I just wonder how do you fill in the form. My hubby and I are both having Cantonese as our first language. I speak in English with my daughter.
My co-worker's daughter get a place in ESF TY last year (she is K1 now). She was in ESL playgroup the quarter before application, and my co-worker also stated both of them are having English as their first language. I'm not sure whether these criteria distinguish between those will be granted an interview and those are not. I also think that my chance of getting an interview is very low. As mentioned in previous post, I just submitted the application 3 days ago, and sent the supporting doc today. If the wait list is by date if application, I must be at the last of the queue.

作者: ktschan 時間: 13-10-31 10:36

simoncho1 發表於 13-10-29 12:24
Apply ESF = Lucky Draw
但入到K都要考慮一點
入到K唔一定入到grade 1

Any reason why so many K students not admitted to primary school? I thought there's still some priority.

作者: epsonprinter 時間: 13-10-31 11:04

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作者: luckyveronique 時間: 13-10-31 11:42

约60%入到esf primary，加埋两間PIS，可达90%，“so many”入唔到應該有D夸。。。

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-10-31 12:51

luckyveronique 發表於 13-10-31 11:42
约60%入到esf primary，加埋两間PIS，可达90%，“so many”入唔到應該有D夸。。。

60% and 90% is about right.

"So many 入唔到" could be an impression one gets from internet forums, because people tend to post bad news more than good news, this is natural.

作者: JeanTUNG 時間: 13-10-31 13:16 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

Remember that ESF changes the priority this year. The offer rate for this year will change.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-10-31 14:05

JeanTUNG 發表於 13-10-31 13:16
Remember that ESF changes the priority this year. The offer rate for this year will change.

This is true, so how that will turn out has yet to be seen, but I don't think it will be very different.

From 2015 onwards, ESF primary schools will no longer give interview priority to ESF kindergartens, but I should think the preference is still there. If ESF primary schools starts to accept less and less pupils from ESF kindergartens, it will make the kindergartens less attractive and unless ESF is planning to phase out their kindergartens altogether (a possibility nonetheless), I see no reason why ESF should do something to hurt their own kindergarten business.

作者: steplovebb 時間: 13-10-31 14:13 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

Can't agree more
The new policy makes them easier to screen the kids they really look for without the pressure from ESF kinders parents

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-11-3 01:54

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Yes. They said all applications will be processed after end of Oct. They are super efficient, aren't they?

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-11-3 02:00

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How I filled in the form....we put down English as our family language. We didn't join their playgroup though.... It could be one of the reasons. Great if you could let me know how it goes with your application. Good luck.

作者: 123mummy 時間: 13-11-3 02:19

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By the way I have heard that holding a foreign passport may help, but this is not the case. We are holding American passport ( but our kids were born in hk though) , do they prefer European and those who were born abroad? I would have just enrolled my son into a local school downstair if HK education syllabus is not this disappointing. Looks like IS is a better option but I hate the fact that most ISs in hk have become too commercial.

作者: lalasmile 時間: 13-11-5 08:32 標題: 回覆：123mummy 的帖子

really cant believe they reponded so fast!

作者: MrsChikChik 時間: 13-12-4 01:28 標題: 回覆：ESF Kindergarten Tsing Yi - not even given an interview?

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I received a letter from them saying play session will be conducted in Jan. Only child. We are not rich, didnt attend their playgroup, holding hk passport.

作者: minirat 時間: 13-12-4 11:21

newdaddy 發表於 13-10-29 13:04
Why did you still aplly for ESF K1 instead of Year 1?
Last year, there were lots of ESF Kinder stude ...

My understanding is that ESF kinder students no longer have priority for interviews to ESF schools, except RC. Is this correct?

作者: minirat 時間: 13-12-4 11:27

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-10-31 14:05
This is true, so how that will turn out has yet to be seen, but I don't think it will be very differ ...

I agree with your theory. Nevertheless it is weird that they did not include their kinder students in the priority criteria. Anyway if there is no clearly stated priority, it will be risky to put our child in ESF kinder and then rejected by ESF school at Year 1. By then, it will be too late to apply for some of the IS, since most of them start from K2 or K3. This is the reason why we decided not to apply for ESF kinder, but try our luck with ESF school at later stage instead.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-12-4 12:56

minirat 發表於 13-12-4 11:27
Anyway if there is no clearly stated priority, it will be risky to put our child in ESF kinder and then rejected by ESF school at Year 1 ...

Yes, not having a clearly stated priority is hardly reassuring, but if you are aiming for ESF primary schools for your child, attending an ESF kindergarten will not be any more risky than attending a non-ESF one.

I also think it is weird for ESF to not give priority to their own kindergartens, at least not officially, this will only harm their kindergartens but bring no overall benefits to the foundation. One possible explanation is they are planning to phase out their kindergartens altogether, and not giving priority is a step preparing for that eventuality, but this is unlikely because they are going to open a new kindergarten in Tung Chung, so ... I'm just as baffled as you.

作者: minirat 時間: 13-12-4 15:13

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-12-4 12:56
Yes, not having a clearly stated priority is hardly reassuring, but if you are aiming for ESF primar ...

I share your views. Another reason why we decided not to apply is becoz there is no ESF kinder which is close to us, and for the "not stated priority" and the fact that ESF school is not our first choice, we are reluctant to switch to ESF at K1 (from his current PN school) even if we are lucky enough to get a spot. Of course now that I read this thread, it is unlikely that we will get a spot anyway...

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