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作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-19 11:29 標題: 有家長後悔選IS嗎？
有家長為放棄本地名幼，選國際學校而後悔嗎？
作者: oooray 時間: 13-9-19 13:53
選IS的家長，對本地教育無暇想，何來後悔?
打個比喻；iPhone fans會唔會因為冇買到Galaxy S4後悔?
作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-19 15:00
如果真的有遺憾，我想是犧牲了學好中文及中國文化的机會，但魚與熊掌，無奈！我吾想小朋友小三背基本法，小四呈分試etc
作者: Mrslot 時間: 13-9-19 15:10 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
選得IS應該都清楚個分別，唔會後悔吧，而IS同名小學其實成個path同學習模式分別極大，決定時要諗得好清楚
作者: 小之爸 時間: 13-9-19 16:11
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作者: happy.rita 時間: 13-9-19 16:14 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
本地名幼？一間都無報過。
作者: leegbd 時間: 13-9-19 16:17 標題: 回覆：alovea 的帖子
只有慶幸選了IS。
作者: ssant 時間: 13-9-19 16:23 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
lucky that my kids in IS...thanks God!
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-9-19 16:23 標題: 引用：有家長為放棄本地名幼，選國際學校而後悔嗎
原帖由 alovea 於 13-09-19 發表
有家長為放棄本地名幼，選國際學校而後悔嗎？
作者: 小之爸 時間: 13-9-19 16:24
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作者: ssant 時間: 13-9-19 16:25 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+alovea+於+13-09-19+發表有家
原帖由 sschiu 於 13-09-19 發表
這裡是國際學校的forum，你又可試吓去傳統學校那邊問吓為何不選國際學校？
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作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-19 17:08 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+alovea+於+13-09-19+發表有家
原帖由 sschiu 於 13-09-19 發表
這裡是國際學校的forum，你又可試吓去傳統學校那邊問吓為何不選國際學校？
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作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-19 17:09 標題: 引用：如果真的有遺憾，我想是犧牲了學好中文及中
原帖由 Fish777 於 13-09-19 發表
如果真的有遺憾，我想是犧牲了學好中文及中國文化的机會，但魚與熊掌，無奈！我吾想小朋友小三背基本法，小 ...
作者: ikerberg 時間: 13-9-19 17:18
it was the best decision I vw ever made
作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-9-19 17:21
Hahaha What a question!
Let's look at some facts:
1. DSE Chinese Exam 2013:
今天清晨，我交給你一個歡欣誠實又穎悟的小男孩，多年以後，你將還我一個怎樣的青年？Students were asked about the rhythm and rhyming - even the author cannot answer correctly as reported by the news!
2. Ever-changing curriculum (Liberal Studies becoming optional while Chinese History becoming compulsory etc) without comparable international recognition as IB or GCSE.
We just feel blessed to have chosen IS for the kids hahaha
作者: DreamKid 時間: 13-9-19 17:59 標題: 引用：如果真的有遺憾，我想是犧牲了學好中文及中
原帖由 Fish777 於 13-09-19 發表
如果真的有遺憾，我想是犧牲了學好中文及中國文化的机會，但魚與熊掌，無奈！我吾想小朋友小三背基本法，小 ...
作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-19 18:49
我也有聽人說，很多IS有濫藥問題。
另也會說: 真係讀得書的就吾會揀IS。
大家怎樣看這兩說法？
作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-9-19 18:58 標題: 回覆：Fish777 的帖子
Facts don't cheat.
Take a look at the IB results of ESF, CIS etc and you will know there are smart kids in IS.
作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-19 19:00
我自己係傳統名校大，一直都覺得讀書辛苦咪辛苦，我相信我小朋友讀得掂的。
但最近見DSE不倫不類，母語教學，教育局班人..，國教...比人馬騮咁玩
想讀直資，但個班怪獸家長，吾想同佢地顛埋一份，又學十樣野又portfolio....
作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-9-19 19:01 標題: 回覆：Fish777 的帖子
About the substance abuse issue, I gather it's still good parenting that counts. I notice one interesting point though: there are more LS students who commit suicide than IS kids.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 13-9-19 19:05
Fish777 發表於 13-9-19 18:49
我也有聽人說，很多IS有濫藥問題。
另也會說: 真係讀得書的就吾會揀IS。
大家怎樣看這兩說法？
Obviously the one who said 真係讀得書的就吾會揀IS has no idea what IS are doing academically.
作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-19 19:08
newdaddy 發表於 13-9-19 19:01 
About the substance abuse issue, I gather it's still good parenting that counts. I notice one intere ...
作者: 小之爸 時間: 13-9-19 19:09
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作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-19 19:21
本帖最後由 Fish777 於 13-9-19 19:22 編輯
The other point to consider, if you are a ,say DBS/la salle alumni, you seems to have the advantage of connection because of the school heritage. However for most IS they are relatively new and of smaller scale (assume I cannot get into the first line IS).Just brainstorm because I am convincing myself into IS.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 13-9-19 19:29
Fish777 發表於 13-9-19 19:21
The other point to consider, if you are a ,say DBS/la salle alumni, you seems to have the advantage ...
imagine you are a manager hiring new employees. what are the qualities you are looking for in the candidates and which education system you think will have a higher chance of nurturing those qualities.
作者: Mrslot 時間: 13-9-19 20:55 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
I am more simpleminded, I want my kid to study in IS only because I want him to be happy
作者: Ruby1219 時間: 13-9-19 21:17 標題: 回覆：小之爸 的帖子
agree. 11 years ago when looking for Lindy for my son, I did apply for local schools first. He got admitted by a few "very hot" local kindies such as St Catherine, Kentville and Keenmind, we paid deposit for St Catherine and Keenmind, but finally chose Anfield which was a very new international Lindy at that time.
I made the decision after the school interviews at all those local kindies. I also disliked the approach of those local kindies. Too commercial and killing kids' confidence and creativity.
作者: fanfanbb 時間: 13-9-19 21:58
Vote for IS and LS has too many uncertainties. I am from LS, with very good public exam results but simply know nothing. Any my common sense is actually being adversed affected by the LS system.
作者: fanfanbb 時間: 13-9-19 21:59
And, can you trust the officials in EBD?
作者: Mrslot 時間: 13-9-19 22:13 標題: 引用：Vote+for+IS+and+LS+has+too+many+uncertai
原帖由 fanfanbb 於 13-09-19 發表
Vote for IS and LS has too many uncertainties. I am from LS, with very good public exam results but ...
作者: elizatyy 時間: 13-9-19 22:23
其實好些IS 對學術成績有頗高要求、你估入外國名uni 不用看成績表？
作者: trees999 時間: 13-9-19 23:10 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
家長亦應考慮小朋友會否留港或到海外讀書，因為本地大學只留十分少的學位給Non-JUPAS生，而Non-JUPAS位還有很多不是應屆IS生競遂，例如有些海外歸來的學生、大陸學生、甚至有些想讀第二個degree的學生，加上越來越多LS學生考IB都係用Non-JUPAS來報大學，扣除這些人後所剩給IS嘅位真是很少。所以，如非考得十分好成績，否則，要在香港爭到學位是十分難。
當然，若打算到海外升學，就完全沒有此問題了！
作者: happyhealthymin 時間: 13-9-19 23:49 標題: 回覆：trees999 的帖子
呢點的確要考慮清楚。各位國際學校的家長有多少打算俾仔女留學，有多少想non jupas入本地大學呢?
作者: samsam123321 時間: 13-9-20 02:35
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Del.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 13-9-20 02:55 標題: 回覆:有家長後悔選IS嗎？
fanfanbb:"And, can you trust the officials in EBD?"
前教育局副局長陳維安和現教育局局長楊潤雄都是把小孩送進國際去了。
作者: Fatrara 時間: 13-9-20 02:58 標題: 回覆:有家長後悔選IS嗎？
應該是教育局副局長楊潤雄。
作者: Fatrara 時間: 13-9-20 02:59 標題: 回覆:有家長後悔選IS嗎？
fanfanbb:"And, can you trust the officials in EBD?" 前教育局副局長陳維安和現教育局副局長楊潤雄都是把小孩送進國際學校去了。
作者: Fatrara 時間: 13-9-20 03:00 標題: 回覆:有家長後悔選IS嗎？
fanfanbb:"And, can you trust the officials in EBD?" 前教育局副局長陳維安和現教育局副局長楊潤雄都是把小孩送進國際學校去了。
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-9-20 09:41 標題: 引用：家長亦應考慮小朋友會否留港或到海外讀書，
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作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-9-20 09:53 標題: 引用：我自己係傳統名校大，一直都覺得讀書辛苦咪
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作者: ssant 時間: 13-9-20 11:16 標題: 引用：Vote+for+IS+and+LS+has+too+many+uncertai
原帖由 fanfanbb 於 13-09-19 發表
Vote for IS and LS has too many uncertainties. I am from LS, with very good public exam results but ...
作者: ssant 時間: 13-9-20 11:17 標題: 引用：回復+Fish777+的帖子
如果你去問下啲執法
原帖由 小之爸 於 13-09-19 發表
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如果你去問下啲執法者(例如：警察、法官、懲教及感化官)有關濫藥問題，佢地一定會話 ...
作者: ngwy 時間: 13-9-20 11:30 標題: 回覆：alovea 的帖子
選了本地學校就會後悔
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-9-20 11:50 標題: 引用：Vote+for+IS+and+LS+has+too+many+uncertai
原帖由 fanfanbb 於 13-09-19 發表
Vote for IS and LS has too many uncertainties. I am from LS, with very good public exam results but ...
作者: trees999 時間: 13-9-20 12:50 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+trees999+於+13-09-19+發表家
原帖由 ckwliu 於 13-09-20 發表
Sorry you are wrong. More and more universities welcome non-jupas too! If you are a HK citizen you a ...
其實我絕對唔係叫大家唔好讀IS,相反，我其實十分支持IS的理念，無奈我睇到本地大學因受政府資助的關係，一定要以照顧本地生為主，加上有政治壓力，所以實在唔好期望個non-JUPAS比例會在未來大幅上升。
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-9-20 13:54
trees999 發表於 13-9-20 12:50
加上有政治壓力，所以實在唔好期望個non-JUPAS比例會在未來大幅上升。 ...
Of course, since this quota increase has a specific aim, it won't necessarily benefit Hongkong students studying in international schools.
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-9-20 15:17 標題: 回覆：trees999 的帖子
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作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-9-20 19:27 標題: 引用：Quote:trees999+發表於+13-9-20+12:50+加上
原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-20 發表
I do believe there is political pressure, but I think the pressure works in the opposite way, which ...
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-9-20 20:23
shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-20 19:27
Is it a wild guess or is your belief based on evidence?
It is fine to ask others how they formed their views, but to hint that others are simply making wild guesses is the kind of behaviour that gets you banned. Care to tell us how many new identities you have used to come back over the many years you have been here?
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-9-20 22:32 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ckwliu+於+13-09-20+發表Sorr
原帖由 trees999 於 13-09-20 發表
其實唔好攪錯,JUPAS只是給報考DSE的學生申請本地大學的機制，如香港學生以其他考試成績報本地大學就要用non ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-9-20 23:58 標題: 引用：Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+13-9-20+19:27+I
原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-20 發表
Did I ever say anything about evidence? I said it is my belief, and I gave my reason, which is to al ...
It was just a clarification and why so agitated. It is ok to make wild guess and I make wild guesses sometimes. But you cannot say it is your belief and therefore it needs no explanation. Can I say i believe the sky is going fall tomorrow and give no evidence?
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-9-21 01:43
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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-20 23:58
You think you know a lot? Obviously not. If asking a question is not allowed, show me the rule that ...
Oh come on, you're an adult (a not so wild guess) so try to act like one. I never claimed to know a lot, and I always give my reasons. No one has to agree with any of it, but there is a difference between questioning someone and suggesting someone is just making wild guesses.
This is not my agitation, this is a reminder of why YOU are the one who keeps crawling back here with new identities, obviously you have not learned any etiquette after all these years.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-9-21 02:22
FattyDaddy 發表於 13-9-21 01:43
Oh come on, you're an adult (a not so wild guess) so try to act like one. I never claimed to know a ...
"Did I ever say anything about evidence? I said it is my belief, and I gave my reason, which is to allow more mainland students.to study in Hongkong universities, based on the fact that the number of mainland students has been rising steadily over the past 15 years or so."
You gave your reason? Which is to allow more mainland students to study in ..... That is not a reason, you were reiterating your assertion which I questioned. If your belief came from linking the number of mainland students rising and political pressure, that is fine. Everybody can make up their mind whether it is reasonable. I only want your basis for your statement.
I have been active with shadeslayer for more than a year and how is this not having etiquette. Show me the relevant etiquettes please.
Don't waste your energy on me. If you think my question (or hints, as you put it) would get me banned, go ahead and report me and save your breathe here discussing etiquette.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-9-21 02:45
shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-21 02:22
I have been active with shadeslayer for more than a year and how is this not having etiquette ...
But you're right, pointless discussing etiquette with you, if you haven't learned it by now I don't think there is any hope of you ever learning it. Anyway, I'm done with you.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-9-21 09:40 標題: 引用：Quote:FattyDaddy+發表於+13-9-21+01:43+Oh
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 13-09-21 發表
Hear what you said:
"Did I ever say anything about evidence? I said it is my belief, and I gave my ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-9-21 11:12 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+shadeslayer+於+13-09-21+發
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-9-21 11:48 編輯
原帖由 hkparent 於 13-09-21 發表
I have also noticed that shadeslayer and some others have been quite critical in various discussions ...
Can you elaborate what exactly is not acceptable? I don't want to cause hard feelings for the sake of causing hard feelings. But don't we all want our children to have critical thinking and their pursuit of answers and reasons? Now you don't want their parents to be critical? Swear words are allowed in the legislative council and EK cannot tolerate "wild guess"?
When somebody makes big claims/beliefs/conjectures, like CY is going to shelf universal suffrage, or there is a political pressure to increase non Jupas quota just for mainlanders which does not benefit HK residents, others want to know whether there is substance in the beliefs, right? Or it is not?
作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-21 11:23 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+shadeslayer+於+13-09-21+發
原帖由 hkparent 於 13-09-21 發表
I have also noticed that shadeslayer and some others have been quite critical in various discussions ...
作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-9-21 12:20
The total number of university spaces is fixed.
I cannot give concrete evidence but I had seen some official documents that the number of NJ spaces in each university does not exceed 20%. Some universities may not admit NJ students up to 20%.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-9-21 12:57
Shootastar 發表於 13-9-21 12:20
The total number of university spaces is fixed.
I cannot give concrete evidence but I had seen som ...
In case more than 20%, universities need to self-finance the difference.
作者: 123kachi 時間: 13-9-21 15:59
Number of JUPAS, local Non-Jupas & non-local students to UGC-funded undergraduate programmes, 2010/11 to 2012/13
http://gia.info.gov.hk/general/2 ... 305_0305_107336.pdf
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-9-21 16:46
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作者: Ononma 時間: 13-9-21 17:28
咁即係local 學生考IB，吾理from local school or international school, 都分享80% local U 學額，又吾錯吖，不過吾知我有無理解錯，請各位指教。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 13-9-21 17:50
Ononma 發表於 13-9-21 17:28
咁即係local 學生考IB，吾理from local school or international school, 都分享80% local U 學額，又吾錯 ...
According to 123kaichi's information, the allocation is roughly as follows:
Local students - JUPAS 73%
Local students - Non JUPAS (sub-degree) 9%
Local students - Non JUPAS (IB, GCE AL etc) 6%
Non local students 12%
作者: Norwood 時間: 13-9-21 23:22
I would like to say, most of the kids studied at international schools in HK are targeted to get offers from Ivy Leagues, Oxbridge, not HKU, CU...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-9-21 23:57
Norwood 發表於 13-9-21 23:22
I would like to say, most of the kids studied at international schools in HK are targeted to get off ...
作者: Fish777 時間: 13-9-22 14:54
Norwood 發表於 13-9-21 23:22
I would like to say, most of the kids studied at international schools in HK are targeted to get off ...
作者: kykyma2000 時間: 13-9-22 16:58
I just feel much relax after switching my little boy to non-DSE stream and go for IB curriculum. While my elder son is still studying in the DSE stream, the lessons/ curriculum is much less interesting and stimulating.
I just become alert of the DSE problem after assisting my friend's daugther to attend the DSE Chinese exam in April. I really can't stand for the MC question for :
DSE Chinese Exam 2013:
今天清晨，我交給你一個歡欣誠實又穎悟的小男孩，多年以後，你將還我一個怎樣的青年？Students were asked about the rhythm and rhyming
Yes, even the author cannot answer correctly as reported by the news! How can they evaluate the kids with these close question?! that ridiculous!
Just thinking when to switch my elder son to IB if situation doesn't improve
作者: fanfanbb 時間: 13-9-22 17:14
kykyma2000 發表於 13-9-22 16:58
I just feel much relax after switching my little boy to non-DSE stream and go for IB curriculum. Wh ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-9-22 18:03
kykyma2000 發表於 13-9-22 16:58
I just feel much relax after switching my little boy to non-DSE stream and go for IB curriculum. Wh ...
作者: kykyma2000 時間: 13-9-23 10:21
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Yes, we'll pray for that!
But a bit sad if have to leave the school as they haven't got IB stream! My elder son is studying in a DSS Christian school at Shun Li!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-9-23 10:25
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作者: kykyma2000 時間: 13-9-23 12:13
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Sadly! Both of them are not good at Chinese!
The other way might be get off after taking ICGSE!
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-9-23 13:14 標題: 回覆：kykyma2000 的帖子
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作者: selialee 時間: 13-9-23 18:33 標題: 回覆：有家長後悔選IS嗎？
Hi all! I'm new to this forum and I'm a new mom! My son is turning two soon. I've been doing some research and looking through information between LS and IS. Me and my husband don't like the pressure going to interview for little kid as young as a year old. After all, my son was not even speaking at that time.
So we sent him to Tutortime for playgroup and now at Anfield for Nursery. We also plan for him to go back to the US to study when he's around 13-14. My only concern is ( and I wonder if anyone of you have the same situation) his proficiency in Chinese reading and writing. My in-laws are Taiwanese and my husband's base is in HK/china. I would like to take the advantage of the 10 years time while my son is in HK to learn the basic of reading/writing Chinese.
So I start looking into some LS school (though some claim to be IS but i still believe they are not truly IS) like Learning Habitat, st cath, Keen mind, victoria, Ming sung, etc. but I'm very afraid I may regret.....
Do you guys, who picked IS, take your kids to ECA for extra help in Chinese?
作者: kykyma2000 時間: 13-9-23 20:56
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Tks ckwliu!
Yes, sure we'll further review and pray together.
This summer, when his little brother made the decision to join Y6 of the IB stream, my elder son had told me that he preferred IB. He said it's more interesting and stimulating. However, I considered him suitable for the DSE as he used to have a good memory and more willing to follow instructions.
As I haven't expected he'll like to join the IB stream, I haven't taken any action yet as I's also not ready. If his little brother got settle down in these few months, I might further review with him this year and hopefully it's not too late as he's in F.2. Will say the prayer for our Lord to lead the way!
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-9-25 19:02
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Will you put him in a price or public school in the US? If private, how is he going to catch up?
作者: selialee 時間: 13-9-27 22:20 標題: 引用：回復+selialee+的帖子
Will+you+put+him+i
原帖由 HKTHK 於 13-09-25 發表
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Will you put him in a price or public school in the US? If private, how is he ...
Do u mean if I consider LS then he is less likely to be able to catch up at private in the states? Can you elaborate?
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-9-27 23:27
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Public is not a big deal, you can pick district. Private is another matter, you also have to worry about getting in. Will the Eng be good enough to get in?
作者: selialee 時間: 13-9-28 20:32 標題: 引用：回復+selialee+的帖子
Public+is+not+a+bi
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Public is not a big deal, you can pick district. Private is another matter, y ...
Sending him back to the States not solely for the "English" environment. We love the space and the culture there. I think he will benefit from more fun activity options and fresh air etc. Something quite important for kid besides top-notch education. 
So private or not...it's not my main concern at this point.
作者: MaryBrown 時間: 13-9-29 17:12 標題: 引用：選得IS應該都清楚個分別，唔會後悔吧，而IS
原帖由 Mrslot 於 13-09-19 發表
選得IS應該都清楚個分別，唔會後悔吧，而IS同名小學其實成個path同學習模式分別極大，決定時要諗得好清楚
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作者: samsam123321 時間: 13-9-29 18:42
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作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-9-29 20:39
samsam123321 發表於 13-9-29 18:42
如果一開始就打算去外國讀大學，讀國際學校又點會後悔？
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作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-9-30 09:22 標題: 引用：讀IS+此終有英文優勢，因為大部分LS+學生英
原帖由 samsam123321 於 13-09-29 發表
讀IS 此終有英文優勢，因為大部分LS 學生英文都太爛。
I need to look up the dictionary from time to time when my kid asks me / uses new vocabulary haha
作者: hb12699 時間: 13-9-30 09:48 標題: 引用：讀IS+此終有英文優勢，因為大部分LS+學生英
原帖由 samsam123321 於 13-09-29 發表
讀IS 此終有英文優勢，因為大部分LS 學生英文都太爛。
作者: clubmed 時間: 13-9-30 11:14 標題: 回覆：newdaddy 的帖子
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