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作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-17 15:36 標題: two kinders for your child
Hi all mommys,
Not sure if we have had made the right decision - we send our 3 years old son to two kinders. Morning time he goes to an Int'l school (which is near our home), back home, have lunch, change uniform. Afternoon he takes school bus to a local school (travel time is 45 min). The reason we do that is to secure him for the seats for the int'l school, and if he can not get it after he finishes K2, he still have chances to go to a good private school.
So far, our kid cope quite well. But we are told by friends that kid will feel exausted after a long day and it might not do good for him. Any opinion? Thanks.
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 13-9-17 16:15
如果兩間都近屋企，小朋友又無需午睡，咁又無所謂是否讀兩間，因我相信即便讀一家幼稚園，很多家庭都會安排個細路放學后或返學前返各種興趣班。。。
但travel單程都要45min，就好攰
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-17 16:18 標題: 回覆：luckyveronique 的帖子
He takes a nap on the school bus though.
作者: vnghk0001 時間: 13-9-17 16:28 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
功課都兩份啦！
比著大人，放左工再坐45分鐘車，再返另一份工，再坐45分鐘車返家，攰嗎？
小朋友仲要係車到訓，會否唔舒服？有精神上課？
自己親身去學校門口，睇下自己小朋友剛訓醒落車，再等放學，睇上車前個樣，接受到咪ok 。
作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-17 16:37 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
我好欣賞你有勇氣講出唻，因為呢個係好熱門討論而又較多負面批評既topic! 好多人一聽到就好激動！
其實，我認為個個小朋友都唔同，既然開始左，我覺得可以觀察下先，如果個小朋友無問題，個人認係可以讀兩間！如果最後都真係好辛苦就放棄囉！
根本坊間係好多小朋友讀兩間，但敢講出來就好少！努力呀
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-17 16:37 標題: 回覆：vnghk0001 的帖子
You make me feel i'm not a good mommy - all I did is to secure him for a good school in 2 or 3 years.
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-17 16:42 標題: 回覆：alovea 的帖子
Thanks Alovea. Yes I just let him try first. As otherwise we will also register for him for many other after school activities. What's more, these two kinders are both really good ones - so pity to give up either one.
作者: mamath 時間: 13-9-17 17:32
DKHd 發表於 13-9-17 16:42 
Thanks Alovea. Yes I just let him try first. As otherwise we will also register for him for many oth ...
If the local one is a good school, that means homework and other school activities will increase when your kid reaches K2. You and he will find two KGs difficult to manage, in terms of workload and culture as he goes along.
作者: minirat 時間: 13-9-17 18:05
Honestly attending 2 kinders for a 3 years old is exhausting, considering that some local schools already have decent homeworks from K1. Even if it's just playing at school, kids of this age should have decent rest, including appropriate daily naptime. There is no right or wrong answer. You know your child best and I am sure every parent wants the best for their child with a good intention. Just remember childhood is only once in a lifetime for every kid. Try not to deprive your child from what he/she deserves. Kindergarten is just a beginning and small part of the life ahead which is going to be more challenging. If we as parents get too tensed up, it will even be tougher for our kids.
作者: btrue 時間: 13-9-17 19:20
If I were you, I would drop the pm local school, and use the afternoon for ECA that may help towards applying for private schools (in case he doesn't get into int'l school)
Except for thru train schools, I don't know of any local kindi that plays a major role in sending its graduates to good schools. They graduate onto good schools because they perform well in interviews and have good ECA records to show. Which local kindi is just a small part and by itself certainly not enough to get you the private school you want.
A year from now, you'll notice that your kid's local school classmates are collecting trophies. Feeling the pressure, you may start then, but your kid will already be behind the game. To find time to crash in ECA, there is really no other way beside dropping one school. Sad reality!
作者: babymoon2012 時間: 13-9-17 19:22 標題: 回覆：DKHd 的帖子
Apart fm physical difficulties and barriers for development, kids will be frustrated and tired under 2 schools. Totally different focus, concerns, values and guidance under traditional and international k. Do the same thing in 2 schools will have contrasted response fm teachers. Even I took my boy to attend 2 different playgroups (traditional and international types), he can't accept if the responses on his involvement or actions were different.
作者: babymoon2012 時間: 13-9-17 19:28 標題: 回覆：btrue 的帖子
Agree. You may keep the international k and attend ECA after taking enough rest (lunch, nap, play and then tea). Then, your kid will have full energy to achieve and learn more. Nap and free play are good for brain development.
作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-17 19:31 標題: 引用：Hi+all+mommys,Not+sure+if+we+have+had+ma
原帖由 DKHd 於 13-09-17 發表
Hi all mommys,
Not sure if we have had made the right decision - we send our 3 years old son to two ...
作者: vnghk0001 時間: 13-9-17 19:42 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
係激動左啲，但當你成日見到呢啲小朋友嘅疲態，就心痛！我唔係佢地父母真係唔明。
我有一個比較熟嘅長輩（同阿女同校），佢個孫k1唔識問，今年k2，都識問點解人地讀一間，佢要讀兩間！仲攪到唔想返學，日日喊住入學校！
作者: pppwong 時間: 13-9-17 20:46 標題: 引用：Hi+all+mommys,Not+sure+if+we+have+had+ma
原帖由 DKHd 於 13-09-17 發表
Hi all mommys,
Not sure if we have had made the right decision - we send our 3 years old son to two ...
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-17 20:47 標題: 回覆：btrue 的帖子
Thanks for your opinion. The more opinions I got, the more uncertain I feel. Still struggling between the local education and the international school.
作者: notcool 時間: 13-9-17 21:07
My kid likes to play especially with friends and cousins. In many cases, she felt very happy running around. She did not want to leave the party until exhausted. Quite often, she cried and was edgy at the end of the party.
Many people say their kid feels happy and can cope with the xxx and yyy and zzz. Kids do not have discipline and self control.
Life is full of choices and sacrifices. To be blunt, this is a selfish decision. You cannot decide and you subject your kid to this kind of exhausting schooling.
作者: addisonto 時間: 13-9-17 21:22 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
當我多事插下咀，如果幼稚園有好大機會直升或者同某小學好有關係最好keep 住。如果兩間都唔係我自己覺得無乜原因要自己同小朋友都辛苦。如果第時有考慮要叩門，不如用少少時間俾小朋友學一啲學校未有，或者更深入既課程可能效果會比現在好，有cert 更好。 有啲學校會收portfolio 到時有料填好過得個一版紙。我個女家下返半日但趣班7個佢有一日問我，爸爸我好想玩，其實佢唔係無時間玩但真係好少（因為我個囡基本上係需要訓中午）所以可用性時間真係好少。我覺得小朋友係玩個時自己會有自己思想空間，佢自己develop 緊佢個思維其實並非壞事。我已經決定減少佢興趣班同埋集中係2-3日本其他時間同佢玩
當然一日2校係無問題，我只係覺得「可苦」
純粹自己睇法
作者: 剛果公主 時間: 13-9-17 21:26 標題: 引用：當我多事插下咀，如果幼稚園有好大機會直升
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作者: 剛果公主 時間: 13-9-17 21:27 標題: 回覆：addisonto 的帖子
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作者: bbalau 時間: 13-9-17 22:03 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
Speechless
作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-17 22:05 標題: 引用：呢個post,都算奇，有咁多理性討論！真係難
原帖由 剛果公主 於 13-09-17 發表
呢個post,都算奇，有咁多理性討論！真係難得！
作者: Sumyeema1 時間: 13-9-17 22:11 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
見過一個例子：
小朋友上午讀本地出名幼稚園， 下午返國際學校。 體力上不講了， 只講兩間學校要求不同， 一間要坐定定聽老師講， 另一間老師鼓勵小朋友發問....
兩套不同的準則， 令小朋友在學校有挫敗感， 討厭番學 
作者: cloudwingwing 時間: 13-9-17 23:02 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
如果有一日你小朋友同你講，叫你返2 份工，返埋夜更，搭車時訓覺當作休息，目的係為你好想你儲多些錢享受生活及作退休用，不知你有什麼想法？
作者: rbi_hk 時間: 13-9-17 23:25 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
其實我覺得問題不太。個個小朋友情況唔同。如果個小朋友適應到就ok。其實返兩間學校而小朋友又早訓，平均夠10to12小時就可以。何況佢車上可訓一陣都可以補充精神。況且其他小朋友返一間，下午都係兩三樣活動，咪又同返兩間差唔多。
作者: winbun 時間: 13-9-17 23:26 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
一位兒科e生曾經同我講過，小朋友可能唔知咩叫辛苦，但佢哋會覺得累，身體會變得差易病。尤其開學後，會多咗小朋友病，因為學校係最容易傳染嘅地方。3歲小朋友應該還需要起碼一至兩個鐘午睡吧！在車上那45分鐘其實應該休息得不太好吧，你有想過實質小朋友可以休息到幾多呢？
作者: siufung 時間: 13-9-18 00:22 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
人各有志...但我一定不會這樣做....小朋友很需要自由思想的空間，發下白曰夢，比佢自己個腦做主導，而在課堂他們只能被動的接收訊息和執行指示！我見每日女兒儍妹一樣的玩玩具自由發揮、自問自答創造她的幻想空間，我看得到她好快樂！！人生可以這樣的時間只有這一段，錯過了被剝奪了，以後也不可補償！
作者: Jane1983 時間: 13-9-18 00:44
cloudwingwing 發表於 13-9-17 23:02 
如果有一日你小朋友同你講，叫你返2 份工，返埋夜更，搭車時訓覺當作休息，目的係為你好想你儲多些錢享受生 ...
好父母，定忤逆仔！？
作者: siufung 時間: 13-9-18 01:03 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
很多人說小朋友適應能力強，只要他們表現“不辛苦、能適應“便oK....可憐的是，他們只是在無可選擇的情況下“適應“大人的安排...他們犧牲了一些自己也不知是犧牲了的權利....有個朋友的父母從少不給她糖果吃，她沒吃過也慣了適應了不吃...長大了見小朋友吃糖菓的雀躍和期盼，只能想像那種糖菓的甜蜜對於孩子可引起有多歡樂，因爲作爲一個大人，嚐同一顆糖菓已沒有了混集童真發酵出的那種快樂，已不是那回事了！父母們忍心剝削孩子快樂自主的權利嗎？？
作者: summato 時間: 13-9-18 08:41 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
我覺得，讀两間幼稚園係比較少數，返一間幼稚園但興趣返足一星期五日係一樣的其實都吾少人咁做，普，數，英，音樂，游水，仲可能畫畫，跳舞，其實咪又一樣？
小朋友知吾知咩叫辛苦？呢個係一個好好既題目，吾識講，佢可能開心又可能吾開心，不過小朋友有一樣係睇得出，就係攰。小朋友要有充足時間運動，休息，吾夠就好易病，健康是無價的。
反而樓主你要諗，想佢讀國際小學？定本地小學？呢個就係重點，解左“你心結”就咩都解哂，“選擇恐怕症”係父母既通病，但都要揀架。
作者: teambuilder 時間: 13-9-18 08:46
可以確保到一個國際學校位，已經免除了未來六年的痛苦。如果來緊六要讀local school，果種辛苦慘過大人番兩份工。先甜後苦定先苦後甜的決擇。
作者: himuimui 時間: 13-9-18 09:05
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作者: Kenixangel 時間: 13-9-18 12:41
Hi DKHd,
Appreciated your courage to tell the truth of letting your beloved kid to attend 2 schools in a day. It is the first time I ever heard of such case and it's surprising. It is pity sure you struggled a lot before making this decision.
Personally, if your kid is able to manage it both physcially and mentally, it would be fine. However, when he promotes to upper grade, more predictable problems might arise. Some reputable kindergartens have quite a few homeworks at upper class. Even your child might be able to finish it at school, he will be exhausted after the entire school day. Will you expect him to be physically able to spend extra time in reading, talking and sharing with you at night? Do treasure the the early childhood with him and fill his childhood memories with joy and happiness, which will never come back when he grows.
Not sure the kind of international of son attending is a real one like Yew chung/ ESF, etc, or those just named itself as international school. Suggested to let him go to the International school first in the first few school years. Observe and understand his ability and character for deciding what kid of P1 will be suitable for him. It will never too late to shift back to local school at K2/K3 if he has outstadning performance in K1/K2 should you wish. In addition, nowadays many international kindergartens also balance the curriculum by having lessons like that in the local kindergarten. So no need to worry too much about that. The old Chinese saying goes, 寧缺勿濫 (Put quality before quantity).
For us parents, I think we should not only focus on his academic development but also physical and mental developments. The above are just my personal opinion and sharing.
Last but not least, do make your own decision to fit your kid's growth. All the best.
作者: rbi_hk 時間: 13-9-18 12:42 標題: 回覆：himuimui 的帖子
Strongly agree
作者: rbi_hk 時間: 13-9-18 12:50 標題: 引用：My+son+studies+in+a+pm+local+school+and+
原帖由 himuimui 於 13-09-18 發表
My son studies in a pm local school and attends Montessori playgroup in the morning 4 days per week. ...
作者: alovea 時間: 13-9-18 13:46 標題: 引用：其實我覺得問題不太。個個小朋友情況唔同。
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其實我覺得問題不太。個個小朋友情況唔同。如果個小朋友適應到就ok。其實返兩間學校而小朋友又早訓，平均夠 ...
作者: rosebb 時間: 13-9-18 17:17
其實小朋友真係未必知幸苦，但如果為SECURE個學位，我就真係覺得無必要，因為幼兒階段最重要是家庭教育，學校教育輔助性的，樓主都應該係想選國際學校STREAM，更加會接受外國的教育理念，自由同埋真正按照佢地的成長需要的課程，那為何讀多一間LOCAL學校，我不會覺得樓主或讀兩間學校的小朋友的家長不是好媽媽，因為出發點是為他們好，但我只是覺得你們太緊張，同香港的教育制度真係好失敗。
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-18 17:57 標題: 回覆：himuimui 的帖子
My son sleeps 11 hours and he manages well so far. We will continue observing him though.
作者: addisonto 時間: 13-9-18 20:51 標題: 引用：其實小朋友真係未必知幸苦，但如果為SECURE
原帖由 rosebb 於 13-09-18 發表
其實小朋友真係未必知幸苦，但如果為SECURE個學位，我就真係覺得無必要，因為幼兒階段最重要是家庭教育，學 ...
作者: BravenBright 時間: 13-9-19 00:20 標題: 回覆：DKHd 的帖子
樓主，明白你嘅擔憂。但學位唔係一切，讀書都唔係一切。莫講小朋友需要多啲休息時間，快樂自由自在的童年，對一個小孩嚟講都好重要，難道你想你嘅小朋友第二時大個對童年嘅記憶只有返學返學再返學？連些少輕鬆，可以發下夢，自己思考下幻想下嘅空間都剝奪！最終你可能保到學位，但失去嘅可能係佢自我發展能力，只懂依從學校教育下的路向。現今父母因壓力好易把找一好學位看似天般大，父母往往以爲咁會對兒女好。坦白講，我對這樣做很反對。做每樣嘢，選擇每樣嘢都有風險。我在選k1時很爭扎，要在兩間很好的學校之間選擇，但從來唔諗過俾佢讀兩間，最終放棄咗一間100%直上嘅龍校，而揀一間唔保證嘅亦在所不計。呢啲係我嘅真心說話，得罪莫怪！
作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-19 07:56 標題: 引用：樓主，明白你嘅擔憂。但學位唔係一切，讀書
原帖由 BravenBright 於 13-09-19 發表
樓主，明白你嘅擔憂。但學位唔係一切，讀書都唔係一切。莫講小朋友需要多啲休息時間，快樂自由自在的童年， ...
作者: hoyau 時間: 13-9-19 09:45 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
就算小朋友唔需要午睡，他的學習能力及專注力也會下降。番2間KG既小朋友其實都有時間發白日夢，只不過是在課室入面發而已。
作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-9-19 11:24 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
先唔去討論啱定錯，首先我唔明點實行，呢個年紀唔係你叫佢食就食換就換衫，扭下計有時大半個鐘至食完一碗飯
作者: MrBeast 時間: 13-9-19 18:34
Can share my kids experience in k1, got up at 7 and back at 1. go take mtr to attend english class right after school. I dropped the class after a couple of months when my helper told me my kid fell asleep on the way.
But look, i appreciate parents have their own reasons and im not here to judge. Also each kid is unique so our experience might not apply to others.
作者: notcool 時間: 13-9-19 21:24
A good point about rest. For a 3 year old kid, rest and naps are important for them to reboot and grow.
While every child is different, some biological facts are common.
作者: hollymama1124 時間: 13-9-20 22:01 標題: 回覆：notcool 的帖子
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作者: DKHd 時間: 13-9-22 21:44 標題: 回覆：MrBeast 的帖子
Thank you for your comments. But my son will go to the clubhouse for 2to3 hours if he is not going to school on weekends - which is what he does in one of the school ( IS normally give kids lots of free play time ) . So I thought we just change the play place from club house to school for half day, and same time secure the seats for primary school.
作者: mamath 時間: 13-9-23 13:15
DKHd 發表於 13-9-22 21:44
Thank you for your comments. But my son will go to the clubhouse for 2to3 hours if he is not going t ...
作者: MrBeast 時間: 13-9-23 13:28
DKHd 發表於 13-9-22 21:44
Thank you for your comments. But my son will go to the clubhouse for 2to3 hours if he is not going t ...
Anyway, just keep an eye on mood or behaviour changes and reevaluate.
作者: poodlema 時間: 13-9-25 10:36 標題: 回覆：two kinders for your child
我睇過研究話小朋友返三個鐘等如大人返八個鐘工，你連續開ot通頂攰唔攰吖？佢仲咁細個你比佢享受下童年生活啦！放學去下公園玩好過啦！
作者: DCMaMe 時間: 13-9-25 10:56
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Be frank, I think you may really need to think about the whole development for your little one.
I am not judging it is good or not to have 2 KGs for such little age. But please think deeply, if you have be put at a close environment 2-3 hrs every weekend, even it is full of fun and exciting for your first visit, but this feeling won't be the same after your 5-6 visits. (even shorter for kids).
Clubhouse is one of a choice for kids to play in a safety env. with air-con and softy protection around.
But what children need is to release their energy and sweat. Give them sunshine, fresh air, plants and the sound of countryside are important.
I am a mother too. And understand the comparative studying env. in HK. You have a choice and please do make up your mind. To safe a place is important or to let your child have a healthy and memorial life is more vital.
作者: crg 時間: 13-9-25 11:17
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作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-25 13:32 標題: 引用：Quote:poodlema+發表於+13-9-25+10:36+我睇
原帖由 crg 於 13-09-25 發表
how about attending one full-day school? is it not recommended to put the kids to full-day school at ...
作者: poodlema 時間: 13-9-26 10:37
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全日學校又唔同喎, 佢有午睡時間, 下午又係輕鬆時段, 玩下做下功課咁, 無咁辛苦, 但返兩間, 上午同下午都要學野! 想攰下都唔得!
作者: 小寶貝兒 時間: 13-9-26 11:26
siufung 發表於 13-9-18 00:22
人各有志...但我一定不會這樣做....小朋友很需要自由思想的空間，發下白曰夢，比佢自己個腦做主導，而在課 ...
老老實實, 我曾經有一刻考慮過比個女讀一間國際一間本地, 原因係而家個女讀緊國際班, 好開心, 英文好大進步(3歲未夠可以用英文同我傾計, 老師真係好勁! 同老師溝通得多, 我D英文都好左), 但由於國際班無中文學(普通話都係每日20分鐘), 無寫中文字, 所以我有D擔心, 將來入到小學點算呢? 係咪下午讀多間本地既會好D?
但最終都係覺得個女會太辛苦, 我打算自己教下佢中文, 希望OK啦.......
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