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作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-2 16:36 標題: St. Catherine Teachers Standard

小兒剛剛在St. Catherine開學, 就讀K1, 聽說這是一間幾全面的學校, 尤其著重語言發展. 但開課兩天, 發覺班上的英文老師的英文水平實在太差, 她聲稱自己是外國回流, 但英語卻完全是local accent, grammar亦不正確, 還夾雜很多廣東話助語詞, "嗱, 嘅.." 等等. 究竟是我bad luck, 還是這間學校的師資下降? 我對本地學校制度並不熟悉, 當初讓小兒進這學校是想讓他多接觸中文. 有沒有parents可給我中肯些的意見?

作者: marcoli8 時間: 13-9-2 17:34 標題: 引用：小兒剛剛在St.+Catherine開學,+就讀K1,+聽

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-02 發表
小兒剛剛在St. Catherine開學, 就讀K1, 聽說這是一間幾全面的學校, 尤其著重語言發展. 但開課兩天, 發覺班 ...

st.cat哪一分校?

作者: rai_fc 時間: 13-9-2 17:50

Really? It didn't happen to my boy. iIn 3 yrs, 2 English teachers and both are very experienced. The current one is from US......., so more American accent.

作者: bearcat2003 時間: 13-9-2 17:54 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

我小朋友升K3,沒遇過這問題，英文學得很好。

作者: crazymum 時間: 13-9-2 18:01

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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生升小一的成績又神級般好, 這個原因, 你兩年後自會明白...........

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-2 18:21

Not sure if I should mention here that she's from which campus. I also doubt why it happens as the school has reputation for high standard of academy, and I heard many good things about it, especially english level. But now... I'm really perplexed...

作者: janelle427 時間: 13-9-2 18:29 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

it didnt happen to my boy. the NETs are all very experienced and caring!

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-2 19:00

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O really crazymom?! Hopefully things are getting better and just like what you said.

作者: jason1978 時間: 13-9-2 19:36 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子 St.+Cat+優勝之處

原帖由 crazymum 於 13-09-02 發表
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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生 ...

咁即係點？

作者: wingyan008 時間: 13-9-2 22:44 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子 St.+Cat+優勝之處

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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生 ...

甘神奇……

作者: annayu 時間: 13-9-2 23:48 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子 St.+Cat+優勝之處

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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生 ...

吾明，可否說明一下?thanks

作者: elizamama 時間: 13-9-3 02:22 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子 St.+Cat+優勝之處

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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生 ...

我都想知，可否分享一下？

作者: jshho1018 時間: 13-9-3 11:44

家長背景囉....
家長背景好, 自然好的小學就會收...
咁佢間幼稚園 profile 自然 very nice !!

作者: summato 時間: 13-9-3 11:53

其實好多名牌中學, 老師一樣都吾識教書, 學生咪一樣拎A? 我覺得St Cat既學生, 除左老師, 屋企既培養都吾少. 至於你遇到既老師, 我小朋友個朋班就冇

作者: happy.rita 時間: 13-9-3 19:53 標題: 引用：家長背景囉....+家長背景好,+自然好的小學

原帖由 jshho1018 於 13-09-03 發表
家長背景囉....
家長背景好, 自然好的小學就會收...
咁佢間幼稚園 profile 自然 very nice !! ...

有朋友同佢另一半只是讀到中五，職業只是普通文員，講句英文都有困難，佢個小朋友今年讀 St. Cat PN，所以家長背景唔好，都未必入唔到。（當然假設佢地填表時無作大啦）

作者: lovebb2 時間: 13-9-3 20:42 標題: 引用：家長背景囉....+家長背景好,+自然好的小學

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家長背景囉....
家長背景好, 自然好的小學就會收...
咁佢間幼稚園 profile 自然 very nice !! ...

如是，讀那一間都冇大分別。why choose st cat?

作者: halflower 時間: 13-9-3 20:44 標題: 回覆：happy.rita 的帖子

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作者: crazymum 時間: 13-9-4 10:23 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+jshho1018+於+13-09-03+發表

原帖由 happy.rita 於 13-09-03 發表
有朋友同佢另一半只是讀到中五，職業只是普通文員，講句英文都有困難，佢個小朋友今年讀 St. Cat PN，所以 ...

Really??

作者: minirat 時間: 13-9-4 14:38

lovebb2 發表於 13-9-3 20:42
如是，讀那一間都冇大分別。why choose st cat?

The same question strikes me!

作者: retriever 時間: 13-9-9 14:33

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wingyan008 發表於 13-9-2 22:44
甘神奇……

what i d heard is that st cat could train up the kids to be presentable and confident. that s quite important in school interview.

also, the reputation or to be exact the track records of st cat graduates could enable sc kids being offered an interview when they knock the doors of the aided school... that's the trick to win the game becuz there are many kids to knock the door but the schools could only have time to interview a few of them only.

作者: CapricornO 時間: 13-9-9 18:25

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作者: siuap 時間: 13-9-9 19:19 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

It doesn't happen to my girly who is studying in K1 too. Her eng teacher is from Australia, really nice!

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-9 19:21

No, I haven't talk to the principle as don't want to overreact at the early stage. Afterall, it's just started school for a week, trying to give more time to observe... But I told my son if he doesn't understand what the teacher said, ask her to repeat at once...
I have no idea why other parents keep silent, maybe they have same thoughts with me or don't care an accent issue... Anyway, hope thing will be getting better... Sigh~~

作者: tim38 時間: 13-9-9 22:31

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好多家長也說 St. Cat 的英文水平很差

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-9 23:23 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子 St.+Cat+優勝之處

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St. Cat 優勝之處不在於學術, 很多St. Cat學生學術都是家長谷的, 但St. Cat畢業生 ...

好讚成，八九成家長都會係校外谷！升小一成績，我覺得好。我當年小朋友小一開學後發現有唔少同學叩入神級津小，如maryknoll , st Mary 等。我自己小朋友，全無補習，雞精班，都有英小私校收，最後叩入英文津小。好好彩。

作者: bearcat2003 時間: 13-9-9 23:40 標題: 引用：回復+vivian-chy+的帖子好多家長也說+St.

原帖由 tim38 於 13-09-09 發表
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好多家長也說 St. Cat 的英文水平很差

作為家長，我沒有聽其他家長這樣說過。

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-10 01:02 標題: 回覆：vivian-chy 的帖子

Talk to school management !! After all it is your kid who suffer if the NET is not real. The 3 NETs in St Cat for my kids are all Caucasians.

作者: rai_fc 時間: 13-9-10 09:12

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Really? I only hear parents complain the Chinese standard of St Cat. For all the parents I come across, they are happy with the English standard.

作者: CapricornO 時間: 13-9-10 11:07

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作者: mimwing 時間: 13-9-10 12:46

每年呢個時候都有呢類post,sc,hkps,km,kv話呢樣唔好那樣唔好，但每年呢幾間派位就次次都咁好！你唔想讀，記得出聲呀

作者: breadbb 時間: 13-9-10 12:59 標題: 引用：每年呢個時候都有呢類post,sc,hkps,km,kv話

原帖由 mimwing 於 13-09-10 發表
每年呢個時候都有呢類post,sc,hkps,km,kv話呢樣唔好那樣唔好，但每年呢幾間派位就次次都咁好！你唔想讀，記 ...

作者: marcoli8 時間: 13-9-10 14:01 標題: 引用：每年呢個時候都有呢類post,sc,hkps,km,kv話

原帖由 mimwing 於 13-09-10 發表
每年呢個時候都有呢類post,sc,hkps,km,kv話呢樣唔好那樣唔好，但每年呢幾間派位就次次都咁好！你唔想讀，記 ...

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-10 14:04

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Mimwing, 本人並沒有在此說三道四, 或揑造任何與事實不符之事情. 所有comments都是作為一個媽咪的顧慮, 亦希望在此得到不同而客觀的意見, 亦很appreciate有不少熱心家長作出討論. 而這正正是這平台的主要功能. 如閣下覺得這樣的open talk屬於"話呢樣唔好, 那樣唔好", 更jump to conclusion叫大家"唔想讀出聲", 實在讓我難以理解閣下之邏輯.... 作為家長, 不要忘記自己是子女的一面鏡, 同理心和容人之量遠勝入到好學校. 祝貴子女健康快樂成長!

作者: Susu922 時間: 13-9-10 14:16

vivian-chy 發表於 13-9-10 14:04
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Mimwing, 本人並沒有在此說三道四, 或揑造任何與事實不符之事情. 所有comments都是作 ...

支持你。谢谢分享你的经历。

当家长很难，向校长complain的话会不会得罪老师？万一没得换老师，老师又知是你complain，对孩子恐怕不妙。

也许多观察一阵，有机会时和同班的其他家长沟通下。如果大家都有同感，这样的complain更有说服力。

作者: jamiee_c 時間: 13-9-10 15:21

我個女剛在SC升讀K1，NET來自英國，英文一流!
如遇問題，我想你可以向學校反映及查詢!!

作者: rai_fc 時間: 13-9-10 16:21

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I understand your worry and you don't mean to spread rumor.
If I were you, I will monitor for a month or two before talk to the principal.

作者: byhui 時間: 13-9-10 16:56

Have you misunderstood anything? My child is now in English/Cantonese class. What I know is every class will have one Class teacher, one English teacher, two assistant teachers and one Mandarin teacher. Is the English teacher absent on the Orientation day and the one who present was the assistant teacher? I am so curious on what your class/campus is as from my observation in the Nursery Fun day, all classes have foreigners as their English teachers.....

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-10 21:33

My son's class teacher is Cantonese speaking, you could tell she's sophisticated, know how to draw kids attention. Mandarin teacher is native, from Beijing, cheerful lady. I chatted w the english teacher for more than 15 mins and frankly, I can scarcely believe what I've heard... But so far I retrieved a ton of positive comments on st catherine, I think I can remain an anticipace to longer. Thx everyone!!

作者: Vlone778 時間: 13-9-10 22:16 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

每年一到報名時間就會突然好多負面新聞哈哈

作者: ac421 時間: 13-9-11 01:01

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Totally agree

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-11 01:35 標題: 引用：回復+mimwing+的帖子 Mimwing,+本人並沒有

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Mimwing, 本人並沒有在此說三道四, 或揑造任何與事實不符之事情. 所有comments都是作 ...

Support u !! Hope the fake NET can be replaced by a real one soon. My kid's experience in st cat was very positive. Sadly my younger kid can't get into st cat. I personally like st cat as they strike a good balance in many aspects ... My kid learnt a lot in an happy environment . I also heard some story about the not so good teachers there but they are the minority

作者: retriever 時間: 13-9-11 12:38

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may i know which class and the name of the teacher?

作者: newdaddy 時間: 13-9-11 15:07 標題: 回覆：retriever 的帖子

Pls tell us which class and which campus the fake NET teacher is in. Nobody will know your child's identity. Don't worry.
With sufficient information, anyone here (or I) can help you to convey your message to school, or you can write a letter to Ms Chan directly about it. I am very mpressed with SC.

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-11 15:30

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Haha the term of "fake net" is really funny. Thx samchan. By the way, are you saying that no priority for sibling? I think it's essential at kinder and primary level. It makes family build a stronger relationship w the school and frankly makes life much easier.... I have a friend who has 3 kids, none of them have gone to the same school.

作者: sibylyau0421 時間: 13-9-11 16:04

我諗係樓主英文本身太好...可能因為咁, 咪覺得個位老師相對差....

作者: sibylyau0421 時間: 13-9-11 16:05

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vivian-chy 發表於 13-9-11 15:30
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Haha the term of "fake net" is really funny. Thx samchan. By the way, are ...

可以問一下,

你小朋友是否大B...幾多月B?

我聽人講SC吾收6月打後既BB...佢地中意收大B...真的嗎??

因我都打算TARGET SC, 我囡囡係12年12月出世....我係咪比佢做大B至有機會入SC??

作者: applelove 時間: 13-9-11 16:21

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不好意思! 想知道為什麼有哥哥/姐姐在讀, 學校都不收弟妹呢?

作者: breadbb 時間: 13-9-11 16:52 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+sibylyau0421+於+13-9-11+16:0

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Sc收form唔記得係9月or10月截 12月一定要等下一年做大b!

作者: summato 時間: 13-9-11 17:58 標題: 回覆：sibylyau0421 的帖子

根據今年要求，pn cut 31Aug 出世，你小朋友係12月，就應該要等多一年

作者: crazymum 時間: 13-9-11 18:03 標題: 引用：回復+samchan2179+的帖子不好意思!+想知

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不好意思! 想知道為什麼有哥哥/姐姐在讀, 學校都不收弟妹呢? ...

學校policy....冇辦法！

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-11 18:49

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如st cat真的official拒收小b, 唯有待明年. 其實做大b對小朋友及你都有好處, 以他們的年齡來說, 相差數月已很大分別, 吸收及表達能力好些, 他們的自信心都相應強化. 所以不用心急.... 小兒是大b.

作者: Eytc 時間: 13-9-11 19:22 標題: 引用：小兒剛剛在St.+Catherine開學,+就讀K1,+聽

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-02 發表
小兒剛剛在St. Catherine開學, 就讀K1, 聽說這是一間幾全面的學校, 尤其著重語言發展. 但開課兩天, 發覺班 ...

to be fair I think you should disclose which class you kid is from, so parents can have fair discussion here! If your kid is in K1 now, why you post this on PN page? And if you are K1 parent, we have a close group Facebook page, you can raise this concern there, or even in Whatsapp group (if your class has created one)... Why Education Kingdom?
But more appropriately I think you should talk to the English Department head at the school, I'm sure you know who right?!

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-11 20:24 標題: 引用：回復+samchan2179+的帖子不好意思!+想知

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不好意思! 想知道為什麼有哥哥/姐姐在讀, 學校都不收弟妹呢? ...

有兄姐讀，細果個都要自己考，無優先。今年st cat 唔收十月後細B，以前收的

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-11 20:27

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First of all, I posted on pn page is purely because I posted on wrong page. What's the problem? I have no idea which fb group you are talking about, why don't you just simply give me the details so that I can join immediately? And why you so sure that every parents joined the fb group and what's group? You know all the parents at st catherine? Im a working mom and the post was on the second day of the school start, how can I get "close" w other parents? Lastly, I refused to disclose the teachers name since my son is already there, anyone can 100% guarantee me theres no aftermath to my son.... Also, I haven't expected such a changelle to seek for opinions.

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-11 20:52

samchan2179 發表於 13-9-11 20:24
有兄姐讀，細果個都要自己考，無優先。今年st cat 唔收十月後細B，以前收的

...

會否方便透露最後你選擇了那間kinder給她/他?

作者: alfredw88 時間: 13-9-11 22:04

唔係好明，一個外籍人士講英文點夾雜廣東話？不過如果係真，我勸你都係無謂投訴，因為你之後點都會覺得被針對。轉校吧！

作者: bbalau 時間: 13-9-11 22:44 標題: 引用：唔係好明，一個外籍人士講英文點夾雜廣東話

原帖由 alfredw88 於 13-09-11 發表
唔係好明，一個外籍人士講英文點夾雜廣東話？不過如果係真，我勸你都係無謂投訴，因為你之後點都會覺得被針 ...

外國回流呀。

作者: bbalau 時間: 13-9-11 22:59 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

樓主，I hv sympathy for you. You simply wanted to express your concern and disappointment. Sc has a long history for preschool education. I think this is an isolated case. I m sure parents will do the right things for their children. There is nothing for other parents to worry about if they don't believe what u wrote.

Anyway, good luck !

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-11 22:59 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+vivian-chy+於+13-09-02+發表

原帖由 Eytc 於 13-09-11 發表
to be fair I think you should disclose which class you kid is from, so parents can have fair discuss ...

Take it easy , no one know who are real St Cat parents here. Anyone can post some comments here even their kids are not studying in St Cat

Again I strongly advise u to "discuss" , not complain , this issue with school management unless u really decided to quit the school. I m sure the school want to maintain their English standard as much as u do

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-11 23:05 標題: 引用：Quote:samchan2179+發表於+13-9-11+20:24+

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-11 發表
會否方便透露最後你選擇了那間kinder給她/他?

My younger kid is studying in another "well known" kindergarten with NET teaching everyday . The work load is a bit more n the syllabus is more difficult than St Cat but I personally St Cat as we are lazy parents n we do not aim at 神級小學. But that school is also a good school with even higher academic standard but comparing with St Cat it's seem life in St Cat is a bit happier

作者: oooasis 時間: 13-9-11 23:37

本帖最後由 oooasis 於 13-9-11 23:37 編輯

現在好多假net的（金髮碧眼就稍微可靠d），其他膚色好多都係本身有母語，只不過英文好就當係net（口音吓死人）。甚至有d亞洲人，只不過係外國住過幾年，讀過下書，講野扮到捲舌d，就扮係net。只可以話市場需求太大。
幼稚園有都唔出奇，英基都有喇。
所以有d家長唔好“被害妄想症”上身，認為有人提出學校不足之處就話人地係打手，係唱衰學校。客觀講句，st.cat又唔係咩好難入的學校。cckg，寶山都無人請打手喇

唔通只可以贊，見到問題就視而不見？

作者: vivian-chy 時間: 13-9-12 10:04

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Happy for you that both of your kids got in a gd school. You must be very pound of them... The teacher at st cat said there will be homeworks everyday starting from Oct. Do u still remember how much time your elder kid usually spend on? I'm a lazy parent too, can't constantly urge them on to study hard... Thx for sharing

作者: HaYi 時間: 13-9-12 13:16

會不是是個中文老師在有需要時說英文?

我大仔是SC 英普的畢業生, 現陳守仁(直資英小)P2,  佢個時冇PN, K1-K3 3年在SC, 覺得老師未必個個好關心學生個樣但語言的質素幾好, K2/K3的中文老師都嚴格同要求高的.

作為家長, 去好多活動, 見中文老師上下堂及同家長對答都全部國語, 但有家長如果是native外國人不懂PTH, 可能中文老師會搭句英文, 佢地的英文就不可能全部好出色, 但英文老師的英文就不會, 全部很地道, 以英美音為多. .

我識不少SC畢業的小學生初小開始都選擇去補中文, 尤其是入中文小學的好多有此需要. 其實SC中文程度比起其它幼稚園不是差,  只不過大部份小朋友的英文比中文出色, 好似我個仔K3時程度可以類同普通官津小學的P3, 剛過去的P1暑假, 他可以做對大部份坊間P5的英文作業, 唯一是文法需要再加強.

但相對中文佢K3之前好少看中文書, P1入學時中文的寫字作句較弱, 經過一年, 冇補習, 平時同暑假時由我地自己教, 亦可做番到坊間P2-P3的中文,依家要多睇書加強.

作者: alfredw88 時間: 13-9-12 13:55

其實都唔知邊個老師，如果有姓名或班别都可以有其他家長可以comment 下，如今捕風捉影，對SC老師們不公平。

我也是SC家長，只能說這老師不是教我的兒子吧。

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-12 14:03 標題: 引用：回復+samchan2179+的帖子 Happy+for+you+t

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Happy for you that both of your kids got in a gd school. You must be very p ...

My elder kid graduated already so my info sy not be most updated. I met the class teacher of my kid in st cat few wks ago, she told us that the school change the syllabus a bit n now with a bit more difficult homework than before eg K3 second sem homework in the past has to be done in first sem now. I remember , may be I m wrong , in K1 homework was very simple n easy n my kid can finish it in 15-20 mins everyday. However many of my kid's classmates attend extra tutorial class like Enopi Kumon etc . We never did that n we were happy with the school curriculum. In K1

作者: samchan2179 時間: 13-9-12 19:29 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+vivian-chy+於+13-09-12+發表

原帖由 samchan2179 於 13-09-12 發表
My elder kid graduated already so my info sy not be most updated. I met the class teacher of my kid ...

N progress seems to be slow in K1 but by the end of K3 she read Oxford reading tree stage 5 n I m happy with the progress yet ii know many smarter kids read stage 6 or 7 in k3 . we speak Cantonese at home n we did revision with my kid occasionally, may be twice a wk , 20 mins each time when my kid was in K2 n k3. Workload in k3 is much higher than k2 as school tried to prepare them for primary school . U may feel more pressure in k3. Afterall i m happy that st cat gave good enough academic training to my kid n also a very happy school life .
Besides , There are always not so good teachers even in the best school .

作者: Eytc 時間: 13-9-20 13:18 標題: 回覆：St. Catherine Teachers Standard

師奶甲一天遇到師奶乙, 有以下對話 -

師奶甲: 你個仔好曳! 真係睇唔出!
師奶乙: 下? 幾時呀? 喺邊度呀? (師奶乙只想進一步了解下, 等自己可以管教一下自己個仔)
師奶甲: (為難地)唔講喇...縂之就好曳...
此時剛巧師奶丙、丁、戊經過, 加入討論...
師奶丙: 下? 乜佢個仔唔係出哂名乖嘅咩? 而家曳咗喇?
師奶丁: 唔出奇嘅, 小朋友越大越曳!
師奶乙: 不如你講清楚d 我個仔點曳吖?...或者交俾學校處理?
師奶甲: 唔得, 我講咗出嚟, 你個仔實知邊個打小報告, 我驚我個仔返到學校俾人bully...
師奶乙: 咁其實嗰個係咪真係我個仔嚟㗎? 你有無認錯人呀?
師奶戊: 咁你又唔好有被迫害妄想症, 阿甲講得俾你聽應該無錯㗎喇...
師奶甲: 係啦係啦, 唔緊要啦, 我都係抒發自己感受啫... 不過無諗過你個仔咁曳, 睇下啦, 希望遲d佢會乖返d...
師奶們各自散去... 師奶丙丁戊帶回家的印象, 或多或少就是"師奶乙個仔好曳!"
師奶乙無從得知事情來由和真相, 甚至嗰個係咪真係佢個仔, 天曉得!!
這翻討論沒有對師奶乙管教兒子帶來正面訊息; 對她兒子"疑似"不正當的行為毫無幫助...

作者: 菲比B 時間: 13-9-23 17:18

我小朋友upper class, 由prenursery開始都係net teacher, 我暫未見過唔係net做st cat既英文老師

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