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作者: daddy2000 時間: 13-8-12 13:20 標題: HKU or UCL(UK)?

My son has got the offers from:
HKU - Bachelor of Economic / Economic & Finance

UCL (University College London) : Master of Engineering

Which one is better? Which one should we give up?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-12 15:01

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UCL (University College London) : Master of Engineering

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Did you check this program with HKIE?

Normally, UK BEng is acceptable to HKIE, sometimes 4 years MEng may not comply to Washington Accord. Call HKIE Membership office asap.

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What's his career inspiration and priorities? Two programs are quite different.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-12 15:02

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In terms of reputation, UCL is better than HKU.

作者: kym 時間: 13-8-12 15:13 標題: 回覆：daddy2000 的帖子

兩科咁唔同, 我會興趣先行.

作者: daddy2000 時間: 13-8-12 15:31

本帖最後由 daddy2000 於 13-8-13 01:49 編輯

Thanks for your reply!
My son loves Maths & Physic and he can always gets good marks on these subjects.

Therefore, I think "Mechanical Engineering" is quite suitable for him.

However, we are not familiar with "Economics & Finance", is it also suitable for the one who loves Maths?

Which subject has a better career path in HK?

作者: jessimm 時間: 13-8-12 16:09

本帖最後由 jessimm 於 13-8-12 16:21 編輯

BBA in econ & finance [size=15.555556297302246px]再加 second major or minor in risk management 就 good for maths 強的學生, 前景

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UCL[size=15.555556297302246px] similar course http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate-study/degrees-1314/ubsstassef08

作者: Unclejt 時間: 13-8-12 17:32

My nephew graduated from a similar programme (4 year MEng Mechanical Engineering) a few years ago, from IC, though. He is doing quite well now.

作者: daddy2000 時間: 13-8-12 17:55

Thanks for your reply.
So what is your nephew's career now? Was it difficult to find a job after he graduated?

作者: Bluegene 時間: 13-8-12 17:55

daddy2000 發表於 13-8-12 15:31
Thanks for your reply!
My son loves Maths & Physic and he can always gets good marks on these subjec ...

Master Vs Bachelor?

He got a degree before this application?

作者: daddy2000 時間: 13-8-12 18:03

No. MEng from UCL is a 4-year course. That means he can gain a master degree once he finished his 4 years study at UCL.

作者: fion6406 時間: 13-8-12 18:20 標題: 回覆：HKU or UCL(UK)

我認識的Mech. engineer 最理想都是畢業後入政府，入政府要香港牌（即HKIE member）,我所知回歸後 HKIE 已逐步唔認英國大學的degree，但英國大學畢業仍可考英國那邊的牌(大學那邊應有說畢業生有那學會承認），而HKIE 與英國那邊學會應該會有reciprocal agreement（當然具體你要check 返HKIE）,咁樣考香港牌雖然有點迂回，但也是可行的。如果唔入政府，私人公司，一般有英國牌都OK , 但當然要在香港做嘢都係考番個香港牌好D.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-12 20:14 標題: 回覆：fion6406 的帖子

妳所提供的資料大部份是正確，但有部份可能誤解了，希望作少少澄清。

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我所知回歸後 HKIE 已逐步唔認英國大學的degree，＜HKIE 沒有唔承認英國學位，而HKIE跟全世界大部份工程師學會一致，跟Washington Accord 的要求，只要符合WA，HKlE便承認那個工程學士學位，只有小部份個別工程課程不承認而已。因為WA只應對BEng，所以MEng 要核實。＞

但英國大學畢業仍可考英國那邊的牌(大學那邊應有說畢業生有那學會承認），而HKIE 與英國那邊學會應該會有reciprocal agreement（當然具體你要check 返HKIE）,咁樣考香港牌雖然有點迂回，但也是可行的。＜正確，HKlE網上應該有詳細互認資料，under Membership and Qualification. >

作者: cow 時間: 13-8-12 21:19

Unlike 1 year MSc, British 4-year MEng is usually recognized by HKIE. In the old days HKIE recognized Charactered Engineer status but now it seems engineers working in HK only could not directly register for the Member of HKIE after getting the CEng status.

HKIE has added the following rule starting from YYYY:
Applicants who have obtained their substantive training and experience in a jurisdiction shall apply for membership in that jurisdiction first...

作者: Bluegene 時間: 13-8-12 21:22

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daddy2000 發表於 13-8-12 15:31
However, we don't familiar with "Economics & Finance", is it also suitable for the one who loves Maths?

Econometric, game theory, financial modelling, forecasting and engineering all involve maths. It is not uncommon for those who studied physics or engineering to switch to economic and finance in postgrad.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-12 21:54 標題: 回覆：cow 的帖子

樓主一直冇透露MSc定MEng。

就算lC的BEng都有些不符合WA，所以HKlE都唔承認，穩陣d都是問HKlE。如果在海外講工程，一定要問清楚。

作者: cow 時間: 13-8-13 00:48

UK usually offers 4 years MEng degree and 1 year MSc degree. Accredited degree for CEng is recognized by HKIE. Accredited BEng and BSc in UK are only eligible for IEng and therefore not recognized by HKIE as professional member. Just check the univeristy or the institution web site will know whether the degree is accredited or not.

作者: Unclejt 時間: 13-8-13 01:04

daddy2000 發表於 13-8-12 17:55
Thanks for your reply.
So what is your nephew's career now? Was it difficult to find a job after he ...

He is now working in an engineering firm. The last time he told me he was working on some infrastructure in Singapore (of course, as a "len").

After he graduated, he spent quite a few months in UK looking in vain for jobs. But he found one not too long after returning to HK. The present one is his second.

No idea about the job market in UK or HK now.

作者: cow 時間: 13-8-13 09:09

Engineering in HK?
I can't see the future.

作者: Bluegene 時間: 13-8-13 23:54

cow 發表於 13-8-13 09:09
Engineering in HK?
I can't see the future.

Civil is ok because of a no. of infrastructure and housing projects. Other eng disciplines are not.

作者: mattsmum 時間: 13-8-14 10:38

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but HK still needs engineers for electricity companies, gas, lifts, MTR, airport authority, building maintenance. All these public listed companies needs engineers, is there a huge supply?

作者: abcd0001 時間: 13-8-14 11:10

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Engineering gets a huge supply in Hong Kong(3big+ 2poly+ive) but the demand is weak.

Simply, there is no heavy industry or big manufacturing firm in HK. Only servicing or utilities firm which is steady and low demand.

Civil is only good when there is a continuous investment in infrastructure ie depend on Govt policy.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-14 11:16 標題: 引用：回復+mattsmum+的帖子 Engineering+gets+a

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Engineering gets a huge supply in Hong Kong(3big+ 2poly+ive) but the demand is ...

We offered posts for engineering graduates, but need to station in PRD, they don't want to take it, the most popular reasons are

1. My gal doesn't like it
2. My parents don't like it
3, it's too dangerous......

Hong Kong bosses prefer HK engineers with many good reasons, we are forced to take more local graduates and tighten all those control and audit procedure to protect our IP and prevent corruption.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 13-8-14 11:30

I understand your point and totally agree. In fact, I mean " the jobs in Hong Kong" is limited, Hong Kong has changed the position, no more industry. Only finance and properity!

Actually, those ask the questions are parents! not kid. Kid is kid!

What are they concern about? The questions you posted!

Not career or future!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-14 11:42 標題: 回覆：abcd0001 的帖子

Years ago, we offered attachment posts for HD students. One boy's parent didn't like it, but it's the graduation requirement, so they were reluctant to let him go.

Both boys have great attitude and willing to learn, the engineering manager offered them a summer job, one took it happily and the mentioned one, his parents preferred him to work in McDonald instead of engineering job, because he needed to station in PRD.

Both got BEng offers after HD and graduated years ago.

Finally, one became an engineer and the other one changed the field, I am not sure it's his plan or his parents plan.

作者: jessimm 時間: 13-8-14 11:49

Not just engineering, but also architecture and surveying sector is diminished. Moreover, civil servant posts of the mentioned profession have been cut

作者: mattsmum 時間: 13-8-14 11:50

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.. 52 歲的徐浩良，曾就讀於中國同濟大學土木工程學院橋樑系，其後在美國史蒂文斯理工學院獲得管理學碩士學位， 1996 年，徐浩良獲得美國哥倫比亞大學國際政策分析與管理碩士學位後，進入聯合國工作。 "

can hong kong children thinks big, even with a first degree in engineering, there are other career path.

作者: Bluegene 時間: 13-8-14 11:51

ANChan59 發表於 13-8-14 11:16
We offered posts for engineering graduates, but need to station in PRD, they don't want to take it, ...

Yes, hk graduates are still suffered from Home-mania and Mainland-phobia. For EE, ME, IE/SE graduates, they should have prepared for a job in mainland and may be SE Asian countries. Jobs from public utilities can only generate a stable demand but may not be able to accommodate engineering graduates. Accounting graduates have long been working in the Mainland. I know that the degree related to construction industry may have golden ten years because of the stronger demand in HK.

作者: mattsmum 時間: 13-8-14 11:58

looks like master degree can be very interesting, if the kid is curious enough, there are many kind of master degrees, look at one sample:

"何建宗（Henry Ho），香港特別行政區政府發展局局長前政治助理、香港論政組織三十會理事、前香港大學傳訊及公共事務處高級經理、....
何建宗畢業於中文大學社會系，及後往倫敦政經學院進修環境評估碩士及科技大學工管碩士"

作者: abcd0001 時間: 13-8-14 12:03

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Nowadays, a degree only means general education. There is still a long way to go. Nomatter your choice or carrier. If you just want to stay at the back of your parents, your future is limited.

Everyone has his own way to go.

I always tell my son if you can fly, just fly away. I just want to know how far and how high you can go.

作者: jessimm 時間: 13-8-14 12:18

Ha ha, leave HK as soon as possible

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-14 13:18

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Yes, undergraduate is not good enough nowadays.
Also, they may change fields along their career life, 3-4 fields is not uncommon in other continents.

作者: hohoLearn 時間: 13-8-17 13:25 標題: 回覆：daddy2000 的帖子

Is there any exit award in case the student cannot finish the 4-year programme?

作者: eschung 時間: 13-8-17 18:24

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Why prefer local engineers to those from overseas? I thought the standard of local engineers is worse than before because of more uni space available and lower admission grade. Those without passion in this industry will not perform well.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-8-17 20:11 標題: 引用：回復+ANChan59+的帖子 Why+prefer+local+e

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Why prefer local engineers to those from overseas? I thought the standard of ...

最近做過比較，3大工程系的收生標準事實上不低，只是參差，有超高成績選讀，亦有21-22分，其他院校會低些。

香港僱主都樂意聘請海外工程系畢業生，因為語文質素較佳，成績整體會好少少。大部份海外畢業生都希望在本港工作，而非國內。如果出自名校，申請大機構機會不低，較輸蝕是面試時間跟本港不太吻合，有些機構都用了長途視象面試。

這些只是我的個人看法，未必太全面。

作者: mattsmum 時間: 13-8-21 22:16

http://www.thecompleteuniversity ... hanical+Engineering

this website is very useful, it even got the salary level of different degree.

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