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作者: fatgoat 時間: 13-6-12 10:56 標題: Siblings 在CKY和傳統學校的分别
請問大家有没有子女一個在CKY，—個在傳统学校讀書呢？可不可以分享—些經驗？Many thanks!
作者: appleng 時間: 13-6-12 11:32
我都好想知，會唔會俾哂所有時間讀傳統果個？
作者: fatgoat 時間: 13-6-12 13:29 標題: 回覆：Siblings 在CKY和傳統學校的分别
其實我也想知道傳統學校和CKY的分別和優缺點。
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-12 21:25 標題: 回覆：fatgoat 的帖子
我們便是這個case，仔在CKY讀Y6，女在傳統讀P3。我可以寫一份論文關於他們的學習情況！在CKY，劉校長不斷提醒我們，孩子要有愉快學習的童年；在女兒學校，校長在小一入學家長會上已來不及警告，＂唔好唸住可以愉快學習，否則到五、六年級時你會好痛苦！＂聽到都驚，也佩服她的坦白。還有，她也說每個人都有不同的＂高矮肥瘦＂，不是每個人都可以讀倒這學校的。這跟CKY的信念：every child is good at something成很大對比！
時間方面，很自然給了妹妹80%，要應付她每周默書，每年三測三考。你不陪公主讀書也可以，除非你不介意低分過別人，名次落後吧。在CKY也有挑戰站和assessments，但不會有與人爭名次、鬥高分的壓力，不需要操卷，但我們平時也有用時間看看他的功課，了解他在學習甚麼，發現有弱的地方時便要幫幫他。少了時間給哥哥，結果是他被迫要自己學獨立，自己負責，幸好CKY是較包容的！
女兒學校的測驗考試全部有model answer，大家考試時找past papers操練。連Reading科也有，老師甚至會要求她們把部分段落背誦，那麼考試時直接默出來就可以攞分了。CKY就比較少依賴model answer，很多時要求學生要有分析能力或表達自己意見，所以書寫能力一定要學好。
我自己就很喜歡CKY經常讓學生做presentation，在人面前分享，兒子現在很獨立、表達能力強、有自信。傳統學校就課程框架清晰，大家知道每學期在學甚麼，也方便家長和補習老師。
作者: channgaki 時間: 13-6-13 09:06
多謝分享，我了解學校多了。除了學術上不同之處外，可否再告知在德育、紀律、品德、discipline等分別
作者: fatgoat 時間: 13-6-13 11:32
本帖最後由 fatgoat 於 13-6-13 11:33 編輯
SSChiu, Thank you very much for your valuable sharing of experiences. Can you please check PM? Thanks!!
作者: train 時間: 13-6-13 22:40
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好大分別！哪為什麼不讓妹妹讀CKY?
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-14 00:19 標題: 回覆：train 的帖子
主要是因為妹妹考小一時，哥哥還在小三，我們對CKY不是很有信心，當時哥哥也有遇到不好的老師（已經離開）。後來妹妹成功獲派心儀的傳統女校，就沒再想其他學校了。
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-14 00:21 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+fatgoat+於+13-6-13+11:33+編
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SSChiu, Thank you very much for your valuable sharing of ...
作者: babe725 時間: 13-6-14 08:14 標題: 回覆：sschiu 的帖子
Thanks for sharing.
作者: train 時間: 13-6-14 09:57
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哥哥六年級了, 哪麼愉快學習，是否到五、六年級時會好痛苦? 滿不滿意CKY的成果?
作者: fatgoat 時間: 13-6-14 10:49 標題: 回覆：sschiu 的帖子
I emailed to you again. Thanks.
作者: sasa1202 時間: 13-6-14 22:46 標題: 回覆：sschiu 的帖子
Thanks for the sharing. I totally agree that all CKY did is theoretically sounded, but in reality, what do u think about the academic level of your son and daughter? And since your daughter's school is also very good, does she still enjoy learning in such a demanding school or she's doing fine?
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-15 01:18 標題: 引用：多謝分享，我了解學校多了。除了學術上不同
原帖由 channgaki 於 13-06-13 發表
多謝分享，我了解學校多了。除了學術上不同之處外，可否再告知在德育、紀律、品德、discipline等分別
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作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-15 01:28 標題: 引用：Thanks+for+the+sharing.++I+totally+agree
原帖由 sasa1202 於 13-06-14 發表
Thanks for the sharing. I totally agree that all CKY did is theoretically sounded, but in reality, ...
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-15 01:54 標題: 回覆：sschiu 的帖子
Continue...at CKY there are also a lot more opportunities to learn about doing presentions, group discussions and team work. There is a stronger environment of English and Putonghua, I believe it is because there are A LOT MORE native English and PTH teachers. At my daughter's school, they are required to speak in English in school but their motivation is not as strong and they do not speak as naturally as CKY kids. May be it is because most teachers are local they just don't have the feel of an "English speaking environment". For PTH, can't be compared with CKY at all! Hope the above information is helpful!
作者: cutienat 時間: 13-6-15 05:31 標題: 回覆：sschiu 的帖子
多謝你的分享，令我更肯定自己對CKY的選擇和堅持是正確的。
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 13-6-15 10:29 標題: 回覆：Siblings 在CKY和傳統學校的分别
兩種制度都有其利弊，選學校要考慮到孩子的性格及家長的耐性。
看重成績的家長，傳統學校會容易見功，亦會知道孩子的程度。係蔡繼有，初小可能係渾沌期，家長可能不懂如何跟進。但若能把握學校的優點，訓練孩子多聽，多
講，多寫，多說及多讀的能力。到中學就可日見成效。
如sshiu所說，學校除了是教學的地方，還可以培育孩子的價值觀及影響其性格。對傳統學校，我感覺勝利者只屬少數，大多數學生可能會迷惘，甚至有學生可能會認為自己是失敗者。但蔡繼有，每個學生一定都有其強項。這是我深深體會的。
作者: channgaki 時間: 13-6-15 11:38 標題: 回覆：Siblings 在CKY和傳統學校的分别
我現在更覺自己為她選對了！
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-15 15:50 標題: 引用：回復+sschiu+的帖子
哥哥六年級了,+哪麼愉
原帖由 train 於 13-06-14 發表
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哥哥六年級了, 哪麼愉快學習，是否到五、六年級時會好痛苦? 滿不滿意CKY的成果? ...
作者: train 時間: 13-6-16 00:23
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謝謝你的分享！請問該如何在初小打好語文基礎？學校沒有默書測驗家長可以如何幫他們？
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 13-6-16 11:09 標題: 引用：回復+sschiu+的帖子
謝謝你的分享！請問該
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謝謝你的分享！請問該如何在初小打好語文基礎？學校沒有默書測驗家長可以如何幫他們？ ...
作者: sasa1202 時間: 13-6-18 15:53
Thanks for the sharing of SSChiu and Kyliema. One thing I observed in Edu Kingdom is that CKY parents' are mostly helpful and insightful in terms of education. My daughter in going to CKY this year. See u one day.
SSChiu, just wonder if your daughter also enjoy studying in traditional school?
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-20 19:07 標題: 回覆：sasa1202 的帖子
sads1202, I can't say she "enjoys" very much but she adapts well in three years. She is the "good girl" type and follows teachers' instructions closely. She has got some very good friends at school so she is happy. She also likes some of her teachers and enjoys their lessons.
We try to keep a balance on school work and extra curricular activities for her. I let her spend a lot of time and energy on her favourite ballet, gymnastics, art...you can imagine we haven't pushed her for high scores but keep her at a "comfortable" level. I am not the helicopter kind of mum that checks homework and schoolbag everyday. So, she is fine, and me too...for now!
作者: mandyk105 時間: 13-6-25 14:51
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好開心聽到你的分享. 有一個問題想問, 仔仔 及囡囡的性格如何 ? 你考慮IB or 傳統學校時係咪根據性格來選凙?
原因是本人大仔現讀直資傳統學校, 學習非常理想 (因性格較內向, 喜歡有規炬地跟從學習)
細仔外向, 主動學習, 喜歡表演, 從不害羞, 表達力強. 那我是否應選擇IB , 而非跟傳統, 因他會覺得很悶蛋
此外, 有多少人升CKY中學後, 是否只有五分一學生可讀IB ?
希望以你過來人身份, 可以給予真誠的分享. 感激
作者: MCLIAN 時間: 13-6-26 11:48
mandyk105 發表於 13-6-25 14:51 
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好開心聽到你的分享. 有一個問題想問, 仔仔 及囡囡的性格如何 ? 你考慮IB or 傳統 ...
For details, u can find it in the CKY school web.
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-27 18:54
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好開心聽到你的分享. 有一個問題想問, 仔仔 及囡囡的性格如何 ? 你考慮IB or 傳統 ...
其實當年的阿仔都屬較内向，被動的類型，我很擔心他如果入傳統學校，會變成更被動，只會死讀書的呆子！所以不如賭一鋪讓他讀CKY，希望能開啓他的小腦袋。我記得Yr 1-2時他是有點吃力的，但幸運地，Yr 3遇到了一位很好的老師，竟能使他開竅起來，那年還獲得最佳進步獎！Yr 4-5他已經變成了另一個人，非常talkative並且很主動！
妹妹就屬動靜皆宜的乖女型，能集中上課，聼老師話又很自動自覺做功課那種，也喜歡說話，我覺得她反而是傳統或國際學校都可以適應的。
只是一點點分享希望幫到你。
作者: mandyk105 時間: 13-6-28 12:14
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謝謝你的分享.
但CKY本身不是走PYP, MYP. 你認為點睇 ?
你仔仔基礎在CKY打得好嗎 ?
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-6-29 20:28 標題: 回覆：mandyk105 的帖子
基礎很好我不敢說，我估不能與傳統名校直接比較。但他們剛考完TSA，阿仔說覺得容易，所以CKY學生水平應該不差的。
如果讀PYP，MYP一條龍，學費一定貴很多！
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-7-10 12:01
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作者: dearjames 時間: 13-7-11 21:26
sschiu 發表於 13-6-15 15:50
哥哥到五、六年級時仍然很愉快！不過工作量和要求是突然加重的。五年級集中教寫論文，由資料搜集開始至寫好 ...
作者: 陳皮爸媽 時間: 13-7-12 18:54 標題: 引用：基礎很好我不敢說，我估不能與傳統名校直接
原帖由 sschiu 於 13-06-29 發表
基礎很好我不敢說，我估不能與傳統名校直接比較。但他們剛考完TSA，阿仔說覺得容易，所以CKY學生水平應該不 ...
另外如果學課外活動，要另外比學費嗎？
多謝解答
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-14 11:54 標題: 回覆：dearjames 的帖子
哥哥也不會支持不住，問題是家長有幾支持得住出來的"產品"？
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-14 12:09 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+sschiu+於+13-06-29+發表基礎
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Sschiu: 請問家長的involve 多不多？如溫習，projects 等，仔仔的功課量又多不多？
另外如果學課外活動， ...
課外活動是要另外收費的！
作者: 陳皮爸媽 時間: 13-7-15 11:28 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+陳皮爸媽+於+13-07-12+發表Ss
原帖由 sschiu 於 13-07-14 發表
請問你是否準備入小一的呢？聽說現在的小學的情況跟我們那些年的已經很不同，不如請現在在低小階段的家長回 ...
作者: lewis5 時間: 13-7-18 18:20
sschiu 發表於 13-7-14 12:09
請問你是否準備入小一的呢？聽說現在的小學的情況跟我們那些年的已經很不同，不如請現在在低小階段的家長回 ...
May I jump in and ask "what is the difference you heard about the primary school now?" because I am still considering whether to accept an offer for my little girl from CKY. Many thanks!!
My little girl has some common character as your daughter and she is now studying P1 in a traditional school, which is also regarded as a very good local school though, that is why I still cannot make up my mind to let her switch to CKY up to now. Sigh!!
作者: sasa1202 時間: 13-7-18 22:20 標題: 回覆：lewis5 的帖子
If your daughter is already adjusted to traditional school, why change?
作者: lewis5 時間: 13-7-19 00:04
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It is because we, as parents, are exhausted with the school's pace - too much HW every day and frequent tests/ exams, and we think it's too much sacrifice of time and effort for everybody in the family and it's not worth it.
Does CKY have HW to hand in every day or they allow some time eg. 1 week, for you to get them done? Their HW content is like those of traditional schools' or more like projects (for Year 2)?
What's the format of the Assessment? Is it like a Written Exam at end of term together with some daily performance evaluation during the term?
Do you mind sharing detailed HW/ Assessment style of CKY so that we could understand its teaching style better? MANY THANKS!
作者: lewis5 時間: 13-7-19 09:26
Continue... My girl can actually fit both schools. She also likes CKY besides her own school.
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 13-7-19 10:10
fyi
http://find-kindergarten.blogspo ... &max-results=50
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-7-19 10:40
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作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-19 11:47
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lewis5 發表於 13-7-19 00:04
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It is because we, as parents, are exhausted with the school's pace - too much ...
lewis5: It is very wrong to think that CKY is a place for escape from the traditional school pressure you are experiencing now! Actually you may be even MORE frustrated with CKY's style of teaching if you are already used to the traditional style. While in your daughter's school they will give you full details of curriculum structure (at least from the textbooks) and full guidelines of expectations (as in my girl's school, pages of rules to tell you how marks will be deducted in dictations, e.g. the letter "a" is "taller" than the blue line, commas cannot be too long, etc). At CKY, they only give you a high-level objective of the unit's learning (e.g. about "inventions" at Y6, for example) and then give students reading materials and worksheets around that topic. Occasionally there were grammar notes and exercises and then some quizzes to "test" their understanding. However, quizzes were not announced beforehand and they would not have revised (or learnt) to prepare for them. Some parents prefer this style because there will not be any pressure in helping children to excel in the quizzes. There is also no need to compare with other classmates and aim for higher scores next time. I think some parents like this kind of teaching style which is in between traditional and international schools. For those who monitor more closely may step in more to support the child (e.g. with extra tuitions), for those who are more care-free will be most happy when they see the brilliant booklets and posters the child created but may be horrified when one day they found that the child's ICAS scores has dropped suddenly! The question is, can you let go of being able to control / monitor your daughter's progress, and to know exactly what she is going to learn, in return for less pressure?
I think there are pros and cons for both traditional and CKY style schools. For your case I will also consider the chance of going on to a good secondary secondary. (How is the banding of your daughter's school right now? What is the chance of getting into a good band 1 secondary school, etc?) You may also want to consider if you want to take DSE? If you choose CKY your daughter will be taking international exams at the end. Also, will you send your daughter abroad for university? If not, probably staying with a GOOD traditional school may be more guaranteeing!
Just my two cents. Hope can help a bit. You may also see this thread for a reference:
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2622878&extra=page%3D1
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-19 19:58
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lewis5: you asked about assessments at CKY. When my son was in primary, the teachers told parents that there is no need to help them study, and worksheets and workbooks were not allowed to bring home for revision (a few occasions for my case). In fact even if my son had brought his worksheets home, I would not have known how to help him study since there was no textbooks at all! I think the school really wanted children and parents not to have any pressure in tests and assessments, as this is the ideal of Principal Lau. They wanted to know how children have been learning in daily classroom. For children who were not able to do well in the assessments, they will be recommended to attend after-school intensive classes. My son had attended the Chinese ICC and it really helped him improve. I am sure you know how different it is in traditional schools about exams and tests and there is no need for me to compare here.
I have to emphasise that this was the case several years ago and I really do not know if they are handling assessments differently in primary now.
作者: lewis5 時間: 13-7-19 21:50
sschiu and ckwliu : Thank you for your very clear explanation! You are indeed very helpful CKY parents. Actually, we don't mind "project type" of HW which we can find the time to do research together during the week. Just can't stand the every day HW load since we've to be available every single night. I suppose teachers will also guide them on how to do the projects (not totally rely on parents), right?
Our expectation is : what she learns is not too far away from traditional school afterall, but in a more interesting and interactive way, and she's competitive in the international public exams like IGCSE and IB.
作者: lewis5 時間: 13-7-19 21:53
continue... of course, we do wish that her English and Putonghua spoken and written skills are much better than in local school, in which they are not taught by native speakers.
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-7-19 22:24 標題: 回覆：lewis5 的帖子
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 13-7-19 22:55 標題: 回覆：Siblings 在CKY和傳統學校的分别
看來ckwliu對學校頗為不滿。我在蔡繼有所見的孩子，有些越來越強，亦有些賣老本的學生，對中學係被大市拋離。學校的強項是空間，孩子可以好好培養良好的閱讀習慣，懂得珍惜的，孩子自己已經可以學得好好，走得好遠。但若不能掌握此優點，要老師教才會學的，就一定很迷失，亦不甚適合此類學校的教育模式。
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-7-20 02:08 標題: 回覆：kyliema2006 的帖子
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作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-20 08:27 標題: 引用：看來ckwliu對學校頗為不滿。我在蔡繼有所見
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看來ckwliu對學校頗為不滿。我在蔡繼有所見的孩子，有些越來越強，亦有些賣老本的學生，對中學係被大市拋離 ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 13-7-20 09:51 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+kyliema2006+於+13-07-19+發
原帖由 sschiu 於 13-07-20 發表
Kyliema2006: 你的意思是，被大市拋離了的學生應要走是吧？不能自學自強的不適合...這是學校／劉校長／老師 ...
ckwliu. 你要我慳d乜呢？點解要咁無禮貌呢？！我唔會話學校適合所有學生或者係家長。學校仍有不足。我對學校處理ib成績的手法也有不滿，不能只報喜不報憂。
作者: train 時間: 13-7-20 23:59
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No matter what is the reason, I'm surprised and very disappointed to know that CKY has parent who use "你慳啲啦" to comment somebody else :(
作者: lamlam412 時間: 13-7-22 01:10
非常多謝大家的意見，令我對CKY了解深咗，但我仍對CKY有一些問题想知，想知詢大家的寶貴的意见。小女讀根徳園幼稚园，一向接受開在老師教導下，遵守老师規舉下完成功课，而她本身在校內show and tell 的表现不是太理想，即唔會好presentable 又有點兒緊張，請問她如果讀CKY會不會成為迷失的一羣呢?
她现在有一間傳统幾好的學校收咗她，但那所學校是没有中學的，雖然間學校本身派位都有90%入band 1的中學，但由于我自己心儀一些傳统較出名的女校，故foresee到嚟緊6年都要比较努力，，才可以在6年後入到自己心儀的中學，以我自己觀察她的性格不是很內向，但屬觀察形，通常不太主動，會留意咗人地先去嘗試，所以真的很想聽下大家寳贵的意见，睇下應否選擇CKY，有勞大家。
作者: miriam 時間: 13-7-22 10:47
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作者: Twinings 時間: 13-7-22 15:02
本帖最後由 Twinings 於 13-7-24 09:26 編輯
After my six years' CKY experience, I can't be so positive as other parents. Turnover of teacher is a real issue, especially secondary.
作者: tinching821 時間: 13-7-22 22:43
Tx twinins for the sincere sharing. Hope other senior forms parents can shed some lights to us as we'll. tx a lot
作者: sschiu 時間: 13-7-23 08:58
如果要孩子不要迷失就要有人帶領他們，教他們有用的知識，用地圖和指南針找到方向，迷失時便要引領他們囘正確航道。我覺得這是老師應有的責任！在CKY六年，我見到有的老師做到了（阿仔也有幸遇過幾位），但也有些是令人失望的。我覺得學校真的要加強品質管理 (quality management)，不能讓迷途的學生自生自滅。
作者: ckwliu 時間: 13-7-23 10:42
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作者: Twinings 時間: 13-7-23 11:14
本帖最後由 Twinings 於 13-7-24 09:25 編輯
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作者: BB20111102 時間: 13-7-23 11:52
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你的分享很客觀及詳盡！我的女兒現在21個月，今年11月會讀GREENFIELD的PN，另外她有YORK k1 OFFER。她比較活潑，不過有點慢熱，在這階段還是很難確定是怎樣的性格。在教育方面，我對她的期望除了有學識外，還要懂得思考及分析，CYK似乎是我杯茶，最重要是學費比同類學校低。如果我以CKY為目標，K1應該如何選擇？有GREENFIELD及YORK為BACKUP，我還會報其他K1，哪些幼稚園比較適合？是英普的較好？哪些幼稚園上CKY的機會比較高？另外，CKY是否只能出國讀大學，上本地大學容易嗎？
作者: Chau444 時間: 13-7-23 14:21
作為曾經是cky的家長, 分享下自己一些經驗及想法.
小囡小一至小四就讀cky, 小五轉讀傳統學校, 今年9月將升讀中二了. 我們選擇離開cky, 主要是小囡較適合有清晰框架下學習, cky的學習框架可以很廣很闊, 她反而有點無所適從. 轉讀傳統學校, 雖然功課, 測驗, 默書, 考試接踵而來, 但她願意努力配合, 溫習好了, 她心安理得, 見到自己成績逐漸進步, 對她是一種鼓勵及推動力. 加上小五小六要呈分考中學, 經歷過後她明白一分耕耘一分收穫的道理, 最後成功派入第一志願的中學. 在中一時, 她要求我全盤放手給她自己溫習, 她想試驗自己的能力, 暫時效果都算理想.
在尋求轉校的過程中, 坦白說, 我曾經有一度後悔當初選擇cky, 心裡很忐忑及徬徨, 但隨著時間及小囡的學習情況, 我明白到沒有一間十全十美的學校, 在每件事, 很多時候有得也有失. 小囡在cky的最大得著, 是培養了良好英語聽講能力, 做project從搜集資料開始, 到powerpoint, 3D model及presentation 顯然比較得心應手. 就讀傳統學校, 無疑在語文文法上的根基會較紮實, 有成績上會有清楚的指標, 明白自己的強弱, 從而尋求改善.
對於考慮選擇cky的家長, 我建議你們首先要認真了解IB的學制, 在BK高中教育版有資深網友的寶貴資料, 不是每個學生都適合. 另一方面千萬不要因小朋友不願做功課而選擇cky, cky的自由度大, 其實更講求自律性, 學術成績的差異取決於個人學習態度, 而且到了中學階段, 學科多了內容深了, 如果不自律學習, 有時父母已無從插手糾正了. 最後, 也要明白家長自己追求甚麼, 如果你是緊張成績學習成果, 傳統學校會較清晰, 容易去做比對; 但如果你是追求學習的過程, 希望小朋友有較多時間去閱讀, 發展其他興趣所長, cky無疑可提供較大的空間.
最後, 在品德方面, 我認為父母要負起最大的責任, 必須在中學前灌輸正確的態度及價值觀, cky有較多的外籍老師, 大家的文化及量度標準不同, 他們也未必認同華人虎媽的做法呢!
作者: poonamy 時間: 13-7-23 15:11
請問各位cky家長, 我最關心的是: bully 真的如有些網友所說普遍嗎？
作者: babe725 時間: 13-7-23 23:23 標題: 回覆：Chau444 的帖子
Chau444, Thanks for your sharing.
作者: lamlam412 時間: 13-7-24 00:20
Thank you so much for all your sharing. It is very good to hear chau444 to share your experience as your child has studied both CKY and traditional school.
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