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標題: 今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！ [打印本頁]
作者: JosephineSam 時間: 13-4-25 18:41 標題: 今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
不過都唔易入
作者: zman 時間: 13-4-25 18:47
好奇一問,係錢定其他問題?
作者: JosephineSam 時間: 13-4-25 18:56
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作者: zman 時間: 13-4-25 21:17
係咪己經interview咗,等result?
作者: wendy_hung 時間: 13-4-25 22:20
有幾多?大陸學生的比例有冇佔兩成?
作者: Babybaby2011 時間: 13-4-26 09:23 標題: 引用：不過都唔易入
原帖由 JosephineSam 於 13-04-25 發表
不過都唔易入
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-26 23:01 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
識個 friend，成日同內地客戶的仔女搵學位，搵得多，佢話同哈囉的校長好熟。佢又話內地客長期不在香港。有冇看過最近 pearl report 出鏡的兩位哈囉學生的英文會話？
作者: clubmed 時間: 13-4-26 23:15 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
請問你朋友對哈羅的評價如何?
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-27 07:56 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
是否那位同簿瓜瓜也熟的英國校長？他做得好嗎？
作者: Babybaby2011 時間: 13-4-27 19:02 標題: 引用：識個+friend，成日同內地客戶的仔女搵學位
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 13-04-26 發表
識個 friend，成日同內地客戶的仔女搵學位，搵得多，佢話同哈囉的校長好熟。佢又話內地客長期不在香港。有 ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-27 21:17
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-27 21:22 編輯
My friend has no children himself and he knows nothing about whether a school is good or not.
My girl told me today one of her rich classmate of her old local school just got into Haxxow. Her English was just average in the class (in a local school). Other subjects were not shining too.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-4-27 22:24
本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 13-4-28 22:56 編輯
I think it is unfair to "just" have all these negative comments from non-parents. What do Harrow's parents think about the school?
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-28 08:16 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
Is she from local elite school? Which grade? Do you think she can catch up?
Any current Harrow parents can share more about the school? It's a big decision to invest so much in a school.
作者: jsfamily 時間: 13-4-28 11:06 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+shadeslayer+於+13-04-26+發
原帖由 Babybaby2011 於 13-04-27 發表
我有睇到，令我对呢間学校有保留 ～～～ 唔知_係未只係_個別事件？
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-4-28 11:22
其實香港Harrow 前景及學術水平就如北京或泰國一樣。富家子弟學校，成績一般，勝在有錢！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-28 11:26 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Babybaby2011+於+13-04-27+發
原帖由 jsfamily 於 13-04-28 發表
一間咁需要錢既學校…咁錢從何來？？？故事自己延續下去
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-28 11:39 標題: 引用：Is+she+from+local+elite+school?+Which+gr
原帖由 hkparent 於 13-04-28 發表
Is she from local elite school? Which grade? Do you think she can catch up?
Any current Harrow pare ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-28 14:58
我睇好國內學生的鬥志及家長的無限量支持 ....... 肯讀就ok！
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-4-28 16:14
學生家人有錢，如何有競爭力？ 父母都只是用錢支持。Harrow 不是香港中產的選擇。我不是仇富，只是提醒部份人，Harrow 在英國不是好top 的學校，何況在香港 ！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-28 16:28
HKTHK 發表於 13-4-27 22:24 
I think it is unfair to have all these negative comments from non-parents. What do Harrow's parents ...
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-4-28 18:03
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I don't see how just hearing from outsiders naysayers is fair either. I am advocating responses from both, or more if there are other, sides, not just from one side.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-28 22:13 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
I mean if the girl is already in Upper primary or even secondary, it's very difficult to catch up the English. Anyway, I know a student who went to Canada at the age of 9 or 10, with very poor English. But then he developed native English and graduated from the top university there.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-28 22:14 標題: 回覆：ANChan59 的帖子
但不知道現在的富二代有否那種鬥志
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-28 22:39
hkparent 發表於 13-4-28 22:13
I mean if the girl is already in Upper primary or even secondary, it's very difficult to catch up th ...
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Difficult, agree. But as I said, there are a few who has little or no HK accent. Just watch the Singtao interschool debate teams from the local schools. They most likely develop very good pronunciation in primary years for some reason.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-28 22:44
HKTHK 發表於 13-4-28 18:03
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I don't see how just hearing from outsiders naysayers is fair either. I am advocating responses from both, or more if there are other, sides, not just from one side.
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I think it is unfair to have all these negative comments from non-parents. What do Harrow's parents think about the school?
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You thought negative comments, or comments from non parents, or both are unfair to Harrow.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-4-28 22:55
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Sorry, meant to say both sides. I wasn't as clear before since we have enough from the side of outsider naysayers already and just thought it would be nice to have some counters.
作者: NoahArk 時間: 13-4-29 09:49
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-28 14:58
我睇好國內學生的鬥志及家長的無限量支持 ....... 肯讀就ok！
作者: NoahArk 時間: 13-4-29 09:51
By the way, I have nothing to do with Harrow (except that I visited their campus in Middlesex some years ago).
作者: NoahArk 時間: 13-4-29 09:56
本帖最後由 NoahArk 於 13-4-29 09:57 編輯
And, as a side note, it is time for some of our fellow parents to completely set aside some of the unfounded prejudices against students from China. Go to IFC or Citibank Plaza in the morning, buy yourself a cup of coffee at Starbucks and look around. The scene may be shocking for the less informed: the young persons from China are the ones who speak better English, take up the better positions, have a better world vision, and ... are being served by HK kids.
作者: clubmed 時間: 13-4-29 11:29 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
呢度好像比較少Harrow嘅家長.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-4-29 13:15
NoahArk 發表於 13-4-29 09:56
Go to IFC or Citibank Plaza in the morning, buy yourself a cup of coffee at Starbucks and look around. The scene may be shocking for the less informed: the young persons from China are the ones who speak better English, take up the better positions, have a better world vision ...
作者: vivicui 時間: 13-4-29 15:14
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作者: Mighty 時間: 13-4-29 17:42
我NUM’大陸人’NEE３個字、要一段時間先可以「洗底」、這種以偏蓋全的講法、我自己都好有保留、BUT奈何、現在我地在香港見到D大陸人就真係、、、！ 当然作為大陸人好多優勢、語言以外、最重要都係人脈/人際関係。 所以香港人真係要好自為知。 NOAHARK講到IFC、JUST WENT TODAY,又想丙人LA,見到幾個大陸TOURIST、３個人企埋一斉、講野都要鬼殺GUM嘈、好無品。
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-29 18:03 標題: 回覆：Mighty 的帖子
我估依家IS 收的多數是海歸派，在外國讀書或工作多年，小朋友在外國出世（即我們常見的ABC)，跟自由行旅客是兩種不同的人
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-29 20:05 標題: 引用：我估依家IS+收的多數是海歸派，在外國讀書
原帖由 hkparent 於 13-04-29 發表
我估依家IS 收的多數是海歸派，在外國讀書或工作多年，小朋友在外國出世（即我們常見的ABC)，跟自由行旅客 ...
作者: iamfine 時間: 13-4-29 20:19 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+hkparent+於+13-04-29+發表我
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 13-04-29 發表
我諗你是對的，但他們每星期能見雙親多過幾個鐘頭的我估好少。
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-4-29 20:23
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I think the reference is to the mainlanders who work in HK and not the ones who are here on a tourist visa
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-29 21:02 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
大陸人有好多種層次，由超級 Smart, 超級勤力，超級國際視野，到參加造假蛋課程被呃的也有。前者可能是 1% 尖子。
來香港的過江龍，在 ibank 工作，是前者居多。以他們比一般香港人，並不公道。
這只是指工作能力方面，但人民質素？我不願置評。我只想起堂堂大國，不能為人民提供奶粉，餅乾，金飾，是何等羞恥的事。振災的錢被拿來私用，是何等滅絕人性的事。
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 13-4-30 15:45
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 13-4-30 16:00 編輯
學校越來越多大陸人嘅學生係事實, 亦都係現實. 唔止香港, UK boarding schools 亦都係一樣. 睇吓這一個 thread 就知幾誇張
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/ ... ean%20vs.%20beneden
總之, 大家各自努力就 OK 咯.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-30 18:25 標題: 回覆：bobbycheung 的帖子
I have heard that ESF and GSIS have some 80-90% of HK students and Mainland students in the secondary sections, respectively. Can someone tell if these figures are believable?
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-4-30 19:16
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For ESF, I am quite sure that over 70% are HK residents. So called mainland Chinese are mostly oversea Chinese. There is nothing wrong with it because most foreigners will not stay in HK with their family. Even teachers are difficult to recruit from UK. If someone want more mixture of different nationalities, Harrow HK will be a good option.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-4-30 19:37 標題: 引用：I+have+heard+that+ESF+and+GSIS+have+some
原帖由 hkparent 於 13-04-30 發表
I have heard that ESF and GSIS have some 80-90% of HK students and Mainland students in the secondar ...
I notice generally schools located near HK island closer to central has a lower percentage of local and mainland Chinese. When you reach Kowloon and NT, the % is higher.
作者: Mighty 時間: 13-4-30 22:04
HKTHK 發表於 13-4-29 15:23
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I think the reference is to the mainlanders who work in HK and not the ones who ...
可能這一代（現在是２０左右的）的大陸人会好小小、、、、、。 我AUNTIE是在香港XX大学工作的、這１０年内来了非常多的大陸教授（助教）、初初以為教授級応該好D身教、但係真係不敢恭維、個人自身的修維、大声吐痰、一大陣煙味等等、用過的宿舎、真係生人勿近。 総知覚得KUI地有種観念就係、５係自己GE野、GE地方、話知你死。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-30 22:30
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No one washes a rental car !
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-4-30 23:28 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
I think most Chinese are in GSIS' English section, not the German section. I have a friend in the secondary section of KGV. There are only one or two foreigners in the class, with the rest being Chinese.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 06:01
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-5-1 06:36 編輯
hkparent 發表於 13-4-30 23:28
I think most Chinese are in GSIS' English section, not the German section. I have a friend in the se ...
Did you really think the German section has as many as 19.4% HK local? The number I quoted was for English section.
KGV has 13.6% Chinese.
There are 8.7% and 12% Canadians in GSIS and KGV respectively. A large number of them may be emigrated Chinese. They may have grown up in Canada and do they really count as Chinese in terms of culture?
Imagine these schools before 97, there is no denying every IS has more local and mainland Chinese. I am not overly bothered by this in general except for some schools with extra ordinarily high percentage of locals/mainland like YCIS/Kingston. That is just my personal preference, you may like them for their better Chinese learning environment.
Find out more for yourself
http://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment/en/student-parents/ncs-students/overview/Prospectus-Dec%202012-final.pdf
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-5-1 09:20 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
Thank you for the statistics. I don't think the Mainland Chinese in the International schools in HK hold HK or Mainland passports. Most if not all hold US, Canada or Australian passports. They have money or other means to become citizens of these countries. I know quite a number of them.
作者: cindyinhk 時間: 13-5-1 09:21
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I actually see a lot of parents originated from mainland china devoted a lot of their time to their kids education, working as volunteers at school, etc. Not anything like generalization here...
作者: cindyinhk 時間: 13-5-1 09:28
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Yes, there are a lot of dark side under the current situation but do you think people are also the victim? How many Hong Konger are actually originated from mainland China, like they swam across the sea to reach Hong Kong? Pointing fingers at people's quality... I think it is totally prejudice.
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 10:22 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+shadeslayer+於+13-5-1+06:36+
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原帖由 shadeslayer 於 13-05-01 發表
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-5-1 06:36 編輯
The figures can only tell u the nationality of students.
Canadians are most probably offsprings of Hong Kongers that emigrated to Canada；not necessarity western kids
They have separated "hk local" (ie those with SAR passport only) from "Chinese" ( those from chiina with no rights of abode, ie what people call 大陸人).
Yew Chung has 27% Chinese, 41% HK local
Shatin Junior has 22% Chinese, 18.2% HK local
Shatin College has 10% Chinese, 17.9% HK local
Harrow has 0% Chinese, 30% HK local
Harrow has zero Chinese national.
PS These are facts and I am not trying to reach any conclusions. Whether parents like this combination is up to them. I have no problem with being in the same schools with children of B6 since I see most of the B6 parents are educated and behave decently.
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 10:27 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+shadeslayer+於+13-05-01+發
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 13-5-1 10:45 編輯
duplicated, deleted
作者: Mighty 時間: 13-5-1 10:40
其実都好GE,多D B６離開大陸、在外面看一看、知道下貪汚Ge悪果、希望KUI地将来帯D好習慣帯番去。 但香港「児家」真係要GAU好亞湯単野、成個ICAC被KUI一個人製衰SAAI ！！
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 11:04
hkparent 發表於 13-4-30 23:28
I think most Chinese are in GSIS' English section, not the German section. I have a friend in the secondary section of KGV. There are only one or two foreigners in the class, with the rest being Chinese.
Those statistics are most misleading.
A lot of students are children of parents from Hong Kong, Taiwan and CHina that have a foreign passport. My children and my nephews and nieces are all considered non "HK locals" because they have only foreign passports (born outside Hong Kong and never got HKSAR passport). But they are 100% ethnic Chinese.
In any case, I do not see how these figures can tell use anything other than the passport they hold.
To be honest, asian kids normally preform a lot better academically, while western kids would like to spend more time with sports.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 11:58 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-5-1 12:32 編輯
If HK local have Canadian passport, or mainlanders have American passport, they may have been brought up in Canada or America, with western culture. Or they are just 100% HK/mainland with a foreign passport, we never know.
What is your concern here? Chinese and HK as a race in IS, or Chinese and HK as a culture in IS.
As I said I am not overly bothered by the percentage and am definitely not over-analyzing the situation, a waste of time in my opinion. The % is going up, with fewer expats compared to 97 and more and more HK mainlanders entering IS in HK.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 12:19 標題: 引用：Quote:hkparent+發表於+13-4-30+23:28+I+th
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-5-1 12:54 編輯
原帖由 nintendo 於 13-05-01 發表
Those statistics are most misleading.
A lot of students are children of parents from Hong Kong, Tai ...
If you want to find out the mix of ethnicity, yes they are misleading. Then again the table was not put together for that purpose. What is important here? American Chinese or Canadian Chinese may have western culture.
The numbers are still useful not literally on the percentage, but broadly speaking the student mix. You can tell schools like island school, west island school or south island schools have a much lower percentage of Chinese community (which ever way you define that) than say Kingston or YCIS.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 13-5-1 12:49
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 13-5-1 12:50 編輯
依個世界好現實, 如果 Harrow HK 將來成績好好, 好多同學入到一流大學, 話之佢全校都係大陸人, 大家一樣爭崩頭想入. 如果成績好差, 就算全校都係純種外國人, 大家一樣覺得唔係咁吸引.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-5-1 14:34 標題: 回覆：bobbycheung 的帖子
I see that most top students in international schools in Hong Kong are Chinese. I am curious to know whether the westerners do not put enough efforts or they are less intelligent. But ironically, those successful MNCs are founded or managed by westerners, and most Nobel prizes are awarded to westerners. So, are academic results the only thing we are looking at?
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 14:41
shadeslayer 發表於 13-5-1 11:58
What is your concern here?
I am sure your question was not addressed to me. Or was it?
Because I am not concerned at all with culture mix. May be some people are, but well, they have their rights to be concerned. And if they are that concerned, then they may just as well avoid schools like Yew Chung or STC as theses schools have more Chinese/HKers.
The reason why I posted my messages were that you put a link here regarding passports. Well, I am sure that tells us something, but other than that, it cannot proof or dis-proof anything ----- ie which schools have more ethnic Chiense. And that is it.
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 14:46
bobbycheung 發表於 13-5-1 12:49
依個世界好現實, 如果 Harrow HK 將來成績好好, 好多同學入到一流大學, 話之佢全校都係大陸人, 大家一樣爭 ...
True.
I suggest people check out the university placements of different IS, in particular compare within ESF, since ESF schools have similar curriculum etc. Most students that perform well are asians from STC and KGV (probably other ESF schools on the island too but again mostly asians). Still dislike asians or chinese students? Well, may be schools should thank them. These are the students that help schools to earn recognitions because they usually have very good grades.
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 14:59
shadeslayer 發表於 13-5-1 12:19
The numbers are still useful not literally on the percentage, but broadly speaking the student mix. You can tell schools like island school, west island school or south island schools have a much lower percentage of Chinese community (which ever way you define that) than say Kingston or YCIS.
That was why I said it was misleading.
No, you cannot tell from the figures.
A lot of Chinese have foreign passport and with this in mind, you cannot come to any conclusion.
However, I agree that may western families are living on the island. And from information provided by friends at ESF schools on the island, we can SEE that there are fewer chinese or asian.
I was not trying to correct you or anything. I am sure you know so much. I just wanted to point out to OTHER PEOPLE that the figures were only about the passport people hold.
I am not in any way concerened. I think we must look at a school as a whole and decide whether it is good. I am not going to judge a school by counting how many Chinese there are. Ask any people that know ESF schools well and they will tell you that STC and KGV are good schools for different reasons, actually a lot of the ESF community know that those on the island are a lot less academic (the students). And I have a friend with a child that was once with Yew Chung and he later went to an ivy league school. Of course, some people will say that the person must be an outlier. Oh well, whatever. I think people that are biased would be biased anyway, so statistics would not be of any use anyway.
In any case, looks like I have said something a lot of people would not like to hear. So I would rather not discuss this further.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 15:24 標題: 引用：Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+13-5-1+12:19+Th
原帖由 nintendo 於 13-05-01 發表
That was why I said it was misleading.
No, you cannot tell from the figures.
A lot of Chinese have ...
What you seem to be after, the cultural mix, is almost impossible to get, whether you (or anyone) are interested in that or not.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 15:25 標題: 引用：Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+13-5-1+12:19+Th
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-5-1 17:25 編輯
原帖由 nintendo 於 13-05-01 發表
ESF community know that those on the island are a lot less academic (the students).
You said this matter of factly, but the fact is SIS has the best IB score this year and it is on the island. The results are on the ESf web site.
作者: nintendo 時間: 13-5-1 15:50
shadeslayer 發表於 13-5-1 15:24
What you seem to be after, the cultural mix, is almost impossible to get, whether you (or anyone) are interested in that or not.
I am not after anything.
Good bye.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 17:19 標題: 引用：Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+13-5-1+15:24+Wh
原帖由 nintendo 於 13-05-01 發表
I am not after anything.
Good bye.
How could you say something is misleading, when you don't have something ELSE in mind?
Or you have something in mind but you are not after it, nor are you concerned about it?
作者: clubmed 時間: 13-5-1 17:24 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+nintendo+於+13-5-1+10:51+編
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作者: hkparent 時間: 13-5-1 18:07 標題: 回覆：clubmed 的帖子
因為我們大部份香港人都負擔不起，所以估計大陸人才有錢讀。好似豪宅，我們都估大部份俾大陸人住。
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-5-1 18:09 標題: 回覆：hkparent 的帖子
酸葡萄心理，所以希望這所學校不好。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 19:08 標題: 引用：因為我們大部份香港人都負擔不起，所以估計
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因為我們大部份香港人都負擔不起，所以估計大陸人才有錢讀。好似豪宅，我們都估大部份俾大陸人住。
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作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 19:10 標題: 引用：酸葡萄心理，所以希望這所學校不好。+
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原帖由 hkparent 於 13-05-01 發表
酸葡萄心理，所以希望這所學校不好。
What should others be soured about? The name? The academic excellence? The big and new campus? Very difficult to get in?
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-5-1 22:03 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子
Then why? Is it because of the three million debenture? I can't afford.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-1 22:59
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The way I understand it, you don't need a debenture to get admitted. The debenture just gives you priority.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 13-5-1 23:01
hkparent 發表於 13-5-1 14:34
I see that most top students in international schools in Hong Kong are Chinese. I am curious to know ...
Once these top students are qualified to be doctors and lawyers, they will then devote their entire time and energy towards making money and I doubt any of them would be interested in doing research works let alone getting a Nobel prize.
作者: whitesky 時間: 13-5-2 01:54
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I usually see it is the parents want their children to be a doctor or a lawyer. Those parents I know are simply practical and they just want their children get into a profession which can enable them to earn more money. This is the major driving force I see Chinese parents push their kids and make sure their children stay the top. Even though their kids study in International schools, some Chinese parents still push the kids like those in local schools.
作者: cindyinhk 時間: 13-5-4 23:00
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But a lot of top professors in HK universities are also from mainland China. Who can judge them simply according to one's own biased assumption? A lot also have higher aims than being lawyers or doctors, typical most wanting jobs by a lot of elite local graduates as well.
作者: cindyinhk 時間: 13-5-4 23:03
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Yes, if someone won't push or behave as tiger mum... but in IS, things are much easier with less homework. Actually, more time is allocated to reading widely, so as to know the whole world better, and to get rid of the narrow bias.
作者: Annie123 時間: 13-5-5 13:19
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-5-5 18:38 標題: 回覆：Annie123 的帖子
I agree with your point, IS more focus on exposure for future success.
For medic and law degrees, HK follows British system and not like American system. So it's the difference of systems and may not purely exposure and students show off their academic excellence. That's my observation from doctors.
作者: Littleho 時間: 13-5-5 18:53 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
I have resisted the temptation of teaching my son to learn the short-cuts (viz higher year maths ' techniques ) . It took a longer time for my son to struggle with a math question , but it improved his understanding of the basic concept .
作者: Littleho 時間: 13-5-5 19:06 標題: 回覆：今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！
There were many Asian students believing that they were good in maths especially those who were educated in Asia until junior high schools and subsequently went to study senior high schools in the West . They scored highly in tertiary entry exams and studied maths in university , but subsequently found they lacked behind their western counters when they were doing their 3rd and 4th year of bachelor degree . They just could not cope with the abstract concepts . I was one of then
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-5 22:08
There is a flip side to the IS way of teaching and discovery approach to learning, ie, the efficiency of teaching and exams scores are not as high as the Asian way. The variance of capability of students is also higher than Asian. In other words, their best students are better than ours but their worse students are worse than Asian too.
作者: Annie123 時間: 13-5-5 22:30
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作者: shadeslayer 時間: 13-5-6 00:00
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Annie123 發表於 13-5-5 22:32
What I see is, there is a whole spectrum of students from any system.
Yes, what I am saying is that I suspect the spectrum (variance) of students' ability of the West is "wider" than the Asian's exam/execution oriented type of education. I have no proof, my opinion is formed by my interaction with so many different types of people over the years and the nature of discovery approach vs exam oriented approach.
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