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標題: 10A or 10* in IGCSE to get into MBBS in HKU or MBChB in CUHK [打印本頁]
作者: homama 時間: 13-4-24 16:43 標題: 10A or 10* in IGCSE to get into MBBS in HKU or MBChB in CUHK
Will HKU or CU Medical Faculty accept a student who gets 10A or 10A* in IGCSE into MBBS or MBChB?
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-24 17:08
No.
Interview threshold: 10A* and AS 4A(>90%) for early interview before release of AL result
Interview after release of AL result: 4A* >90%
Admission usually if AL=4A* ( all 4 subjects >>90%, usually >95%)
Some students with 4A* were not granted an interview as real score of their 4A* was not high enough!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-24 19:47 標題: 回覆:73662710 的帖子
That's exactly what I know about IGCSE and GCE AL for MBBS

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-24 23:46
Also true for MBChB.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-25 00:00
In the last Admission talk, the Asso Dean of CUHK Medical School said that for international Qualifications, they aim for students as top 0.5%; for HKDSE, they aim for top 1.5%.
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-25 00:18
So may I know which way is easier, DSE vs GCE AL?
Thanks
作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-4-25 00:51
本帖最後由 Shootastar 於 13-4-25 12:58 編輯
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One competes with his fellow applicants from the same education system. It is difficult to tell which one is easier to be admitted. For non DSE qualifications, the admission tutors would assess your qualification based on your education system. If you take IB, they would require you a score at least 41 or 42 out of 45.
For AL students, they require 4 or more AL at 4 stars with index over 95 percentile. For the US system, they require SAT I score at least 2,200 above plus 3 SAT2 subjects with score of 800 or at least 5 AP subjects of score 5.
Given the fact that they admitted the top one to 1.5 percent of DSE students, it appears that it is relatively easier for DSE applicants to be admitted.
作者: homama 時間: 13-4-25 10:03
Many thanks for all your information/remarks.
作者: friendlyguy 時間: 13-4-25 10:56
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Isn't it AP is of higher level than SATII? Why AP needs 5 subjects while SATII needs only 3?
作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-4-25 12:56
本帖最後由 Shootastar 於 13-4-25 14:56 編輯
It is correct that AP is a higher level than SAT II.
However, SAT I and SAT II are the college entrance qualification in the USA. As said, the two medical schools in Hong Kong would assess your qualification based on the college entrance requirement of your education system. That is why both schools would admit medical students based on the SAT I and SAT II score.
Having said that, if one could obtain 2,200 or above in SAT1, he is in the top 0.5 to 1% of all the students in his cohort. Further, it is quite difficult to obtain 3 subjects of perfect score of 800 (other than Chinese, which is not considered by the admission tutors). Although SAT II tests are based on multiple choice, you will be deducted certain point for any wrong answer. Usually depending on different subjects, there are 60 to 80 multiple choices to be completed within one hour. If you want to score 800, I am worried that the maximum wrong answer would be around 3. It is quite challenging indeed.
For AP, there is no point deduction for wrong answers in the multiple choices session. Further you will obtain a score of 5 (the highest possible score) with raw marks about 65 to 70 (out of 100), again depending on the subjects. It is relatively "easier" to score 5 in AP than a score of 800 in the same subject of SAT II.
作者: JuiceMum 時間: 13-4-25 14:27
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-25 14:51
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Thanks for your detail explanation.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-4-25 17:03
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-25 00:00 
In the last Admission talk, the Asso Dean of CUHK Medical School said that for international Qualifi ...
Mecical schools always have the most demanding entrance requirement.
How about other "general" subjects eg. history, biology? (just guess these faculties are not HOT)
What's the least entrance requirement (any subject despite the candidate's interest) to HKU or CU if routing from IB or GCE A levels.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-25 17:13
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dsm 發表於 13-4-25 17:03 
Mecical schools always have the most demanding entrance requirement.
How about other "general" subj ...
We attended those admission talks, most focus on my son's interest and not attend other programs. I strongly recommend your kid attend those admission talks in different universities, normally from late Sept to end of Oct.
I don't have solid idea about the typical range of different programs based on IB or GCE AL, but I did some graphs based on HKDSE results, which may shed some lights on your questions.
HKU DSE 2012
CUHK DSE 2012
作者: dsm 時間: 13-4-25 17:42
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-25 17:13 
We attended those admission talks, most focus on my son's interest and not attend other programs. I ...
Thx for replying so prompt... my son is in junior secondary only, but his interested subjects are inclining to history, philosophy, religious etc, (and more likely he will opt them for senior school) It seems universities in Hongkong seldom offer these kind of subjects except CU. Glad to know they are not hottest items in CU anyway.
By the way, considering to switch to IB curriculum for him (he is currently under GCE), do you have any idea on IB pts intake {in general} to CU. Perhaps a wild guess... 36? 32? or less?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-4-25 17:45
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I don't want to pretend as an expert, you better ask your son to write an email to CU, they may provide more solid answers.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-4-25 20:19
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-25 17:45 
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I don't want to pretend as an expert, you better ask your son to write an email to ...
thx anyway.... you have been really helpful.
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 13-6-5 22:43
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 13-6-5 22:45 編輯
你好
今年仍可以有機會以10A星成績入HKU/CU 面試
CU 難度較高
HKU 難度低一點
我有2位朋友的兒女有面試
一位德瑞, 另一位名牌英國寄宿學校, 一位英基的
英基的等緊OFFER, 前兩者, 已有醫學院conditional offer
面試是在上年12月
2月有offer
我有一些面試的題目,
醫學院面試難度相當高
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-6 08:51
大家要留意10A是可以申請,但兩大醫學院已經明文規定,自今年開始學生要完成高中才可以入讀。
朋友兒子讀德瑞,11A*都要等一年。
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 13-6-6 11:01
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 13-6-6 11:04 編輯
港大醫學院主動開條件俾小朋友
港大相當鬼祟, 在EMAIL 覆小朋友時
正常情況下, 我地是不會, 但你可以...
在EMAIL 開一些條件, 你答應便很有機會面試
早的12月面試, 2月便有假期, 新年時左右
12月那批要求高
4月上旬那次面試, 我看大概有120人左右
一般面試, 15分鐘, 代表衰硬
30分鐘-45分鐘, 就很有機會
大概會是10-12條問題
醫學院教授問的問題, 毫不留情, 2位輪流問
作者: yukico 時間: 13-6-6 11:23
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願繼續洗耳恭聽, 謝謝。
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 13-6-6 11:41
yukico 發表於 13-6-6 11:23 
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願繼續洗耳恭聽, 謝謝。
4月面試, 好多人年紀比較大
所以我估到
是幾類人面試, 是一些有面試的小朋友對我說
1. 英國寄宿學校grade 12,13 學生 , 父母在隔離
2.大部份人的樣較成熟, 有些是讀完uni 的
3. 錯過第一輪12月面試的學生(IB ), 被安排在4月
好多原因, 錯過, 不一定是能力不行
4月面試的學生, 也陸續收到OFFER
港大42分
中大41-42分
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-6 12:11
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大概會是10-12條問題
醫學院教授問的問題, 毫不留情, 2位輪流問
********
是否計算埋follow-up questions?
通常好似三條,一條個人General, 一條時事,一條ethical。
不過好多條follow up questions and scenario analysis.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-6 12:13
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多謝分享。
是否42/45?
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 13-6-6 12:50
Yes 42/45 有的41
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-6 13:13 標題: 回覆:HIHinsurance 的帖子
Lower than I expect.
I heard about MBBS is 43/45.

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-6 23:36
HIHinsurance 發表於 13-6-6 12:50 
Yes 42/45 有的41
42/45 is lower than that mentioned in their admission website. Is it because these students have extraordinary ECA?Thanks.
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-6 23:37
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I meant 41/45
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-7 07:14 標題: 回覆:73662710 的帖子
This year conditional offers.
For HKU, I know it's 43. PG 45, attachment at QMH.
For CUHK, 41-42. PG 43-45.

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-7 07:34
Anyway, no matter it is 41,42,43, these are a academically very competent!
作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-6-7 09:27
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This is also what I understand the situation this year.
However, there is one exception. I was told by my friend that her daughter's close friend obtained an offer of IB 36 from HKU (her PG is 45). She is from an IS.
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-7 10:02
The grade for conditional is almost meaningless given that the PG is 45
作者: poonseelai 時間: 13-6-7 10:09
73662710 發表於 13-6-7 10:02 
The grade for conditional is almost meaningless given that the PG is 45
yes, why not offer an unconditional one?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-7 10:38 標題: 回覆:Shootastar 的帖子
Interesting.
She got other qualifications?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-7 10:42 標題: 引用:Quote:73662710+發表於+13-6-7+10:02+The+g
原帖由 poonseelai 於 13-06-07 發表
yes, why not offer an unconditional one?
PG is PG....
What I heard from professors that they suspected the PG may be overstated for all qualifications, like DSE, and IB.
Also they granted less CO this year, as they expect keener competition of DSE and IB or other qualifications this year, they need to wait and see the actual results before making offers.

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-7 11:41
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This is medical school, we have never heard of any unconditional offer!
作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-6-7 11:44
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I do not know whether she has any other qualification. However, my friend told me that she has 2 offers from medical schools in the UK (including one from IC).
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-7 12:37 標題: 引用:回復+ANChan59+的帖子
I+do+not+know+whet
原帖由 Shootastar 於 13-06-07 發表
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I do not know whether she has any other qualification. However, my friend told ...
UK are CO?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 13-6-7 15:58
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I have no idea but I think it should be an CO because UK would not give an unconditional offer unless you have already obtained the qualification which is equal or exceeds the requirement of an usual offer.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-7 19:14 標題: 回覆:Shootastar 的帖子
We are on the same page.
For 36 UO, I talked to a couple Medic professors, they doubt about that. Even last year, double cohort, 40 is the min.

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-8 12:30
ANChan59 發表於 13-6-7 19:14 
We are on the same page.
For 36 UO, I talked to a couple Medic professors, they doubt about that. ...
40/45 or 40/42?Thanks!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-8 12:51 標題: 引用:Quote:ANChan59+發表於+13-6-7+19:14+We+ar
原帖由 73662710 於 13-06-08 發表
40/45 or 40/42?Thanks!
40/45, only for last year, because of double cohort effect, not all 840 spaces are filled finally.

作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-8 13:20
I see, some lucky boys/girls last year.
Though they did not admit enough year 1 students last year, the faculty will admit some graduate students this year to fill up the vacancies as advance standing will be granted!
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-6-8 13:22
Last year was an excetional year, my friend's child who was not even granted an interview in 2011 was admitted in 2012!!!!!!!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-6-8 13:37
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That's fair enough.
作者: bbchow936 時間: 13-6-11 00:01
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