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作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-23 17:29     標題: 點評美加神級名校

點評美加神級名校


呢篇文試著點評美加各大學。實為隨手所得,未加仔細研究同求証。文章里面有很多個人偏
見,皆因報考大學無數,多嘗試,有成功,也有失敗。希望給後學以此為引,升學路上少走
彎路。


美國大學一般以www.usnews.com排名为准。當然每科各大學都各自有長處。建議先去以上網站看
下。


何為美國神級名校?
美國有八間長青籐大學,間間有很長的歷史,排名一般在二十名以內,各有所長。由於時代
變遷,我把它們與其他大學一起比較,分三個大級別:神級,明星級,名校。



細分九級別:
一流綜合神級名校,
二流偏科神級名校,
明星級學校,
超值明星級學校(只一間),
一般名校,
一流公立名校,
二流公立名校,
香港人知道的名校,
不知名的特殊名校。




一流綜合神級名校 (排名按先后)
1)哈佛 Harvard - 商醫政強
2)耶魯 Yale - 心理人文
3)普林斯頓 Princeton - 傳統理學,如經濟(John Nash), 物理(愛因斯坦)
4)哥倫比亞大學 Columbia - 新聞,人文學和金融界關係
5)史丹福 Stanford - 工商皆強



二流偏科神級名校(排名不分先后)
6)MIT - 偏工科
6)CIT - 偏工科
6)U Penn - 偏商科



明星級學校(排名不分先后)
10)U of Chicago - Econ, Finance in Future Trading Market
10)Duke University - Bio Tech
10)Northwestern University - MBA
10)Cornell University - Agriculture Engineering



超值明星級學校(只一間)
Rice University 「大米學校」只有大概八千幾人,學費最平,入學比哈佛更難。



一般名校
Carnegie Mellon University 工科好
Johns Hopkins University 醫科好
Dartmouth College 我只識曾子墨
Brown University 政治好
Washington U in St. Louis 生化好



一流公立名校(排名不分先后)
U of Virginia
U of California - Berkeley
U of Michigan - Ann Arbor
請注意后兩間學校是要指定校園(Campus)先好,其他校園就沒有甘勁。



二流公立名校(排名不分先后)
UCLA
UNC - Chapel Hill
Penn State - College Park



香港人知道的名校
New York University
Boston University
U of Southern California



不知名的特殊名校
Georgia Institute of Technology 超強工科研究院
University of Rochester 傳統機械工程,有可口可樂公司贊助
College of William and Mary 超老歷史,是美國四大歷史悠久學府之一。其他三間是哈
佛,耶魯,普林斯頓。
U of Illinois - Urbana-champaigne 傳統工科名校,土木力學工程超強



關於MBA
哈佛(不用說太多)
史丹福(不知說什麼)
U Penn(超強金融系)
西北大學(超強eMBA)
哥倫比亞大學(超強金融界關係)
紐約大學(超強金融界關係)
維真尼亞Darden(華府政界聯系)
康內爾(一年MBA課程)


作者: missk28    時間: 13-4-23 18:11

Obiepapa 發表於 13-4-23 17:29
點評美加神級名校
Hi Obiepapa, 謝謝你的資料!
但這個"關於MBA~史丹福(不知說什麼)"是什麼意思呢?我唔明白添?!




作者: ree_luke    時間: 13-4-23 19:47

Very good, very interesting. How about universities in Canada? Thanks,
作者: elbar    時間: 13-4-23 22:58     標題: 引用:Very+good,+very+interesting.+How+about+u

原帖由 ree_luke 於 13-04-23 發表
Very good, very interesting. How about universities in Canada? Thanks,
一般公認 加國三強 Toronto, British Columbia, McGill




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-23 23:41     標題: 引用:Very+good,+very+interesting.+How+about+u

原帖由 ree_luke 於 13-04-23 發表
Very good, very interesting. How about universities in Canada? Thanks,
對加拿大學校我有我的"偏見",過兩天有時間會寫下。




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-23 23:48     標題: 引用:Quote:Obiepapa+發表於+13-4-23+17:29+點評

原帖由 missk28 於 13-04-23 發表
Hi Obiepapa, 謝謝你的資料!
但這個"關於MBA~史丹福(不知說什麼)"是什麼意思呢?我唔明白添?!
哈佛同史丹福兩間都無報過名,或深入了解過。所以不用說太多,也不知說甚麼。兩間都是好學校。




作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-4-24 11:05

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I have the following sharing:
"College of William and Mary 超老歷史,是美國四大歷史悠久學府之一。其他三間是哈
佛,耶魯,普林斯頓。"


U Penn is the 4th oldest while College of William and Mary is the 3rd. It would appears that Princeton is not one of the 4th oldest colleges in the USA.


"Rice University 「大米學校」只有大概八千幾人,學費最平,入學比哈佛更難。"


The admission rate of Rice for 2013 is about 17% while the admission rate of Harvard is less than 7% for 2013.






作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-24 14:56     標題: 引用:回復+Obiepapa+的帖子 I+have+the+followi

原帖由 Shootastar 於 13-04-24 發表
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I have the following sharing:
證明記憶遠左就會糢糊。




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-25 10:24

---- Top 3 ----

1) UT – Business/Engineering/Medical schools are all top 3 in Canada. Acceptance high school average >90 for both business and engineering school. TOFEL >600.
2) McGill – the best medical school in Canada, has veterinary medicine program. It’s within top five engineering schools in Canada as well.
3) UBC – known as top 3 in Canada

---- Top 10 ----

University of Waterloo (UW) – it’s the MIT in Canada. Top engineering school. Very good co-op program starting in 3rd year. It will offer 4 year scholarship for ones with strong academic background and who can maintain good grades. Average >90 and TOFEL 600 will be more confident. If TOFEL < 600, it would require students to take one year ESL program.

Queen's – 1st rank MBA program in Canada. Top liberal art school. Only students > 85 average in high school and TOFEL 580 will apply. Average >90 and TOFEL 600 will be more confident.
McMaster – it is quite a well-known university amount Hong Kong students, it has a very good nuclear engineering program.

York – very good at space engineering

Western – it is known as the top business school in Canada, both undergrad and grad (2nd in MBA I think). Students with 85 average or above in their high school will apply.

---- others ----

Guelph – I remember this school has many undergrad majors. Its location is quite close to McMaster.

Ryerson - Canada's largest (not the best) undergraduate business school

Carleton – back in the old days, it was very good in undergrad architecture major, UT was the second

Windsor – will offer 4 year scholarship to ones that maintain good grades

Brock – This is what I heard when young, “you can talk, you can walk, you can go to brock.”

作者: mayc    時間: 13-4-25 11:56

Thank you for your sharing!
作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-4-25 14:57

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Thanks for your sharing.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-4-25 16:12

跟美國朋友以前傾開大學,他提及幾間私立在美國好出名,香港較少人知,可以一搏,但冇心裝載,忘記了,有一間在加卅,好似P字頭,分幾間學院。
作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-4-25 16:19

Pomona College, Claremont College something like that.
作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-25 16:44     標題: 引用:Pomona+College,+Claremont+College+someth

原帖由 ANChan59 於 13-04-25 發表
Pomona College, Claremont College something like that.
These sounds like liberal art colleges with three year diploma instead of four year universities.




作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-4-25 17:42

Obiepapa 發表於 13-4-25 16:44
These sounds like liberal art colleges with three year diploma instead of four year universities.



  ...
自己不熟美國大學,多謝提醒!
From wiki

Claremont Graduate University (CGU) is a private, all-graduate research universitylocated in Claremont, California, a city 35 miles (56 km) east of downtown Los Angeles. Founded in 1925, CGU is a member of the Claremont Colleges consortium which includes five undergraduate (Pomona College, Claremont McKenna College, Harvey Mudd College,Scripps College, Pitzer College) and two graduate (CGU and Keck Graduate Institute of Applied Life Sciences) institutions of higher education. Adjoining and within walking distance of one another (refer to the map), design was based on that of Oxford University and Cambridge University.

CGU is the oldest all-graduate institution in the United States, with many notable alumni in different fields all over the world. The university is organized into nine separate schools; the School of Community & Global Health, formed in 2008, is the newest. Deborah Freund took office as University President in fall 2010.

History

Founded in 1925, CGU was the second of the Claremont Colleges to form, following Pomona College and preceding Scripps College. Claremont Graduate University is the oldest remaining all-graduate university in the United States. The school has undergone several name changes since its inception. After being called Claremont University College for thirty-seven years, in 1962 the school officially became known as Claremont Graduate School and University Center. Five years later, in 1967, the name was again changed to Claremont University Center, and in 1998 it acquired the name Claremont Graduate University.

The Claremont Colleges were designed to incorporate the Oxford Model of higher education. Instead of one large university composed of several separate schools, the Claremont Colleges are made up of different institutions designed around differing theories of pedagogy. CGU was founded upon the principle that graduate education is separate and distinct from undergraduate education. Students discover and cultivate their disciplines during undergraduate course work; at CGU students continue cultivation of their own disciplines, but are also expected to augment this with research that incorporates other disciplines as well. This is called "Transdisciplinarity", and is an essential component of Claremont Graduate University’s functioning theory of pedagogy.

The school is home to about 2,200 masters and PhD students, as well as approximately 200 full and part-time faculty members. TheCarnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching has classified Claremont Graduate University as a CompDoc/NMedVet: Comprehensive doctoral (no medical/veterinary) with high research activity.[2] Its nine academic schools and one independent department award master's or/and doctoral degrees in 31 disciplines. Enrollment is limited and classes are small.








作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-4-25 18:35

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Pomona used to be a top 5 liberal art college in the US offering a 4-year degree, not 3-year diploma. Its degrees are highly regarded by the postgraduate colleges and employers. It is not easy to gain admission to Pomona.
作者: HKTHK    時間: 13-4-25 19:52

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Quality amongst the diff Claremont colleges are uneven but some are really good.  Think the toughest to get into is probably Harvey Mudd.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-4-25 19:55

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Quality amongst the diff Claremont colleges are uneven but some are really goo ...
You know, I am not an expert. I just quote and unquote from a friend in CA.
Harvey Mudd is strong in Engineering and Science?

作者: HKTHK    時間: 13-4-25 20:04

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Yes, think mostly engineering.  Websites suggests 22% acceptance rate but I remembered it used to be quite a bit lower before.  Not sure what happened.  
作者: HKTHK    時間: 13-4-25 20:06

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Since when are liberal arts colleges 3-year non-degree programs?
作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-26 08:08     標題: 引用:回復+Obiepapa+的帖子 Since+when+are+lib

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Since when are liberal arts colleges 3-year non-degree programs?
I think I mean 3 yr community college.




作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-4-26 09:40     標題: 回覆:點評美加神級名校

Sorry to raise some examples which may be fall in Community College category.

My intention just emphasis some colleges or universities not known in HK, can be reputable locally.




作者: HKTHK    時間: 13-4-26 10:06

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Community college in the US are two-years and do not offer a degree.  Liberal arts colleges like Claremont, Pomona, Harvey Mudd or the top ones listed on usnews like Williams and Amherst are four-year degree programs. They are called liberal arts colleges since they tend to be smaller with a focus on undergraduate programs and they also offer a more well-rounded liberal arts education.  I would say Williams and Amherst are as good as some of the lower-tier Ivies.
作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-26 12:01     標題: 引用:Sorry+to+raise+some+examples+which+may+b

原帖由 ANChan59 於 13-04-26 發表
Sorry to raise some examples which may be fall in Community College category.

My intention just em ...
No worry




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-26 12:03     標題: 引用:+本帖最後由+HKTHK+於+13-4-26+10:14+編輯+

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Good information to note




作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-4-26 14:05

ANChan59 發表於 13-4-25 16:12
跟美國朋友以前傾開大學,他提及幾間私立在美國好出名,香港較少人知,可以一搏,但冇心裝載,忘記了,有一 ...
I think you might be talking about Pepperdine University.  Very good private school.  The law school is one of the best.  Famous faculty member included Arthur Laffer (The Laffer Curve in named after him).
作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-4-26 14:18

HKTHK 發表於 13-4-26 10:06
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Community college in the US are two-years and do not offer a degree.  Liberal  ...
I concur with HKTHK and like to strongly reiterate that "Community Colleges" are entirely different from "Liberal Arts Colleges".   Admissions to Liberal Arts colleges are becoming more and more sought after by US students.  And professional schools (medical schools, law schools, etc.) and graudate schools (Ph.D degrees) increasingly take in undergraudates from liberal arts colleges.
In fact, they have become such a distinctive education stream that the US News and World Reports now rank them separately from the traditional unversities. Pls see http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges.   For the latest ranking: #1 - Williams College, #2 - Amherst College, #3 - Swarthmore College, #4 - Middlebury College, #5 - Pomona College.

If I have the money, I will no doubt send my kids to a liberal arts college.  I reckon it is the best undergraudate education.   I know a kid from HK who graduated from ESF, then Swarthmore College, now he is a Ph.D candidate at UC Berkerly with a full scholarship.  



作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-4-26 14:27

One more thing.  In Liberal Arts Colleges, students are taught by professors, whereas in state universities (and I heard in many of the large so-called Ivy League schools), lower class courses (and sometimes even upper class courses) are taught by graudate students (those who are pursuring their doctorate degrees).  The qualities of teaching are very different.
作者: HKTHK    時間: 13-4-26 14:48

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In large universities, I think the lectures are still taught by professors but the tutorials are taught by teaching assistants who are graduate students.  I have also heard of some classes that are so large that the lectures are simultaneously played in other lecture halls or class rooms since the lecture hall is not large enough to fit everyone.
作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-4-26 15:43     標題: 引用:回復+Fatrara+的帖子 In+large+universiti

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In large universities, I think the lectures are still taught by professors but  ...
This indeed would happen in some big size university.




作者: vicky2jennifer    時間: 13-4-30 20:00

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 13-5-1 01:21

Fatrara 發表於 13-4-26 14:05
I think you might be talking about Pepperdine University.  Very good private school.  The law school ...
Thanks for your info, I remember, should be Pomona.
作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-5-1 02:24

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I have the impression that Emory's Oxford College is a community college. Please correct me if I am wrong.
作者: vicky2jennifer    時間: 13-5-1 09:55

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作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-5-3 15:47

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Thanks for your information.
I just go to Wikipedia which said that Oxford College is a 2-year introductory liberal art college and the students can continue at Emory University after Oxford College for a degree.

The admission rate for 2013 is 41%. When compared with the Emory College's admission rate, which I understand, is less than 20%. In terms of popularity, there is a difference between Oxford College and Emory College. Anyway it is a short cut to obtain an Emory degree. It is just like many students go to study community college in California with the hope to switch to UCLA or UC Berkeley after the community college.

作者: kkbbkk    時間: 13-5-8 12:31

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My son's school mate in high school went to Emory Oxford last year. The campus is located 5-10 km away from main campus. No of students are smaller. He is a bit upset about the college life, as he reckons it no different from prep school life.
The reason for him to choose Emory Oxford is that he was so aggressive in college application and was rejected by all top tier uni (all ivy league). Two years in a place away from main campus will also mean that you have less chance to extend the social network and less chance to participate in the main campus activities/opportunities.

Though indirect, Emory Oxford is a good choice for those who aims at Emory or its equivalent but academically marginal. Those from Emory Oxford will end up with the same Emory degree.



作者: Shootastar    時間: 13-5-8 13:29

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Thanks for your sharing.
It is true that it is a short cut to obtain an Emory degree by applying to Oxford College of Emory first and then switching to Emory College after 2 years.

作者: Annie123    時間: 13-5-11 19:09

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作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-5-16 13:23

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thank you so much for introducing liberal arts colleges :)
My kids are still small.  But if they have no objections, and if finances allow, I surely want them to go to the US for Liberal Arts Education.   I am a product of Liberal Arts Training.   It was the happinese moment in my life (on par as when I saw the coming of new lives - my sons).  My favroite would be Swarthmore (the Quaker traditions)..  or College of the Holy Cross (the Jesuit traditions)... But all other liberal arts colleges in the US are very fine schools no matter what religious traditions they come from.   I guess yours is from the Methodist Church, isn't it?
By the way, just posted an article on Liberal Arts Education.  Even Britain now is opening its first Liberal Arts College - The Regent College.  Read it.  And enjoy your time at school and let your mind expand and explore; one of my economics professor (one of the best and brighest - later went on to work for the Federal Reserve) told me once, "the most terrible thing to waste in the world is a bright mind.'   And I reckon, in our Asian traditional education system, we are doing exactly that - wasting so many bring minds.


作者: kkbbkk    時間: 13-5-16 14:31

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Fatrara,
It is glad to find that more and more HK people appreciate the beauty of liberal arts education. As many other HK people, I was trained under the subject based/ professional based education (typically UK type). May be I am stupid, it took me years to be enlightened and my views broadened from my narrow professional/vocational field.

To me, it is never be too late to be trained professionally. But it would be better to train a person early the way we should look at our world, our people and our life ( sound philosophical, but it involves the interplay of the skills of critical analysis, creative thinking, problem solving,....). The skill sets that will not obsolete with the advancement of technology and irreplaceable by machine.

My son is studying in a liberal arts focus university in the states and he enjoys the education so much.

Apart from UK, Singapore has a liberal arts university established in 2012: Yale - National University of Singapore. Should be a very good university for those who does not want to go too far to the US or the UK.


作者: MCDlove    時間: 13-5-16 23:38

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Why college of the holy cross is your favourite? Any specific reasons?I'm considering sending my daughter to a LAC in the US as well.
What's your opinions towards college of the holy cross, mount Holyoke college, union college, Gettysburg college, Wheaton college ma, Sarah Lawrence college, Knox college?


作者: vicky2jennifer    時間: 13-5-17 13:57

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作者: elbar    時間: 13-5-17 15:22     標題: 引用:點評美加神級名校+呢篇文試著點評美加各大

原帖由 Obiepapa 於 13-04-23 發表
點評美加神級名校
能否點評英澳神級名校?




作者: MCDlove    時間: 13-5-17 20:31

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Thank you so much for your sharing.Do u mind sharing with me your experience in Mt. Holyoke?
How do you feel about studying in an all-girls school?
Why did you choose this school at first?
Do you think LACs are less advantageous than Research universities in finding jobs?



作者: vicky2jennifer    時間: 13-5-17 23:19

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作者: kkbbkk    時間: 13-5-18 10:40

Dear McDlove,

There a fewer employers in HK know the LAC other than the top top ones, such as Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin. Panmona, etc. It is absolutely no problem to find jobs in US from LAC. In addition, undergraduate students may pursuit post graduate studies.

I conducted college visits two years ago when my son took interviews with these colleges. All LAC in East Coast. I also share some views / impression with you. All the colleges I visited are very good, except that some are too far away.

NY upstate:
Hamilton - very good school and nice environment. Ranking improved substantially. Rich in endowment. Locally too far away from city.

Connecticut
Wesleyan - the one 陳家強 studies his undergraduate degree prior to his post graduate degree in  U Chicago. Nice environment. Great school. Locally good.

Massachusetts
Turts - not purely LAC, but strong in LAC subjects. Relatively small and a highly selective college. Beauty is in the heart of Boston

Brandeis - Small research university in Boston, with LAC focus. Undergraduate students body is small. College environment is inferior to Turfts, But also an excellent university.

Boston College - Well connected to  Boston city centre. It has strong LAC tradition.

Maine ( for location reason, we did not apply any of the LAC in Maine)
Bowdoine - excellent college. impressive staff. So high the ranking that I am not need to describe more. Location is an issues, however. Thus we did not apply.

Bates - the least on my son's list after the visit

Colby - nice environment and good staff.

Separately, my son talked to the staff of Amherst when attending college fair in his prep school. He was very impressed. Yet he was rejected.

Some others we didn't visit but consider very good.
Carleton the one 練乙錚 attended. - my son did not choose as he wants to stick to MA.

Vassar - my son told me that it is unique ( or waired) in terms of school culture.


For women college, of course, Wellesley is top on the list. One college I will strongly recommend to women is Smith. Good location. The college even offers a paid internship (college pay to employers for employing their students as interns) for students.

One distinctive features of LAC is their smaller in size and thus students can access to more opportunities - opportunities to build closer relationship with professors and staff and opportunities for internships, exchanges, school jobs, etc.
作者: vicky2jennifer    時間: 13-5-18 13:31

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作者: MCDlove    時間: 13-5-19 14:22

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Thank you for your information.I'm actually wondering if there's an education fair in HK which features LAC representatives so that my daughter and I can obtain much more information.


作者: kkbbkk    時間: 13-5-20 09:20

Dear McDlove,

Every Sept, the IIE (http://www.iiehongkong.org/?page_id=675# ) will organize a US higher education fairs in HK, though not LAC focus. But I believe you may find some there.

Unless you go for college tour, doing web search nowadays is not far inferior than education fair. Here are some useful links:

www.collegeboard.org
www.collegeconfidential.com
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsa ... beral-arts-colleges

作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-5-20 13:52

MCDlove 發表於 13-5-16 23:38
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Why college of the holy cross is your favourite? Any specific reasons?I'm consi ...
HI, MCDlove,
I think vicky2jennier is quite knowledgable about the LAC on the East Coast.  Keep talking to her, and get your daughter to talk to her.   Besides, she is in the market,  I graduated many years ago, and am out of the market.

(But vicky2jennier, please tolerate my ignorance, what is "LOL"?)

Anyway, I do not know much of any of the schools you mentioned other than reading their websites, and from Wikipedia.  I like College of the Holy Cross because I like the Jesuit tradition.  The Jesuits are some of the most outspoken and intellectual in the Catholic Church.  The current Pope Francis is a Jesuit, and the first Jesuit to become Pope.  He was chosen because the Cardinals hope he can change the Church big time.  I guess only a Jesuit would have the intellect and the guts to do big changes.  We will see.

I guess you and your daughter can outline a few most important criteria in choosing a school: TUITION, TRADITION, RANKING, PROXIMITY to big cities (I think it is important, students need to get out of the suburbs and mingle back to the crowd once in a while, especially for Hong Kong students), ACCERLATION programs (some LACs have deals with graduate schools in which they can proceed to obtain their professional degrees in shorter time - e.g, getting a Law degree in 6 years - 4 in undergraduate and 2 in law school (law school normally takes 3 years)), , CROSS campus/schools class taking, etc.   All these things can be very enriching during the 4 years of studies, and they should be part of the learning process.

One school caught my eyes though -- Sarah Lawerence College.  It is not ranked in the US Word Reports.  It is expensive, but it has some very distinguished alumni. One is Rahm Emmanuel.  He was Obama's Presidential Campaign Manager, and later his White House Chief of Staff.  He now is the Mayor of Chicago.  I think he is one of the smartest Political Strategists.   He was able to help Obama going from a junior Senator, practically unknown  in the US political scene, to becoming the President of the United States.  Amazing.

Thank you for asking for my opinion, but like vicky2jennier said, it is the opinion of your daugther that is the most important.  She is the one who has to stay in the college for the next 4 years.  Good Luck.  



作者: Fatrara    時間: 13-6-11 13:18

vicky2jennifer:

You might be interested to take a look at this.  The University admission list of HKIS for the graduates of 2013.  It looks like there are 3 girls are coming your way.    http://dragonnet.hkis.edu.hk/index.php?option=news&id=1063


作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-6-15 17:17     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+Obiepapa+於+13-04-23+發表點

原帖由 elbar 於 13-05-17 發表
能否點評英澳神級名校?
英國我只識三間學校:牛津,劍橋,LSE




作者: hellohihi123    時間: 13-6-20 16:38     標題: 回覆:Fatrara 的帖子

I went to Pepperdine for MBA, they have have a JD/MBA programs, it's true that they have very good connections.




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-7-10 23:28     標題: 回覆:hellohihi123 的帖子

Mba主要是識下人,以後找份好工




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-10-23 23:21     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+Obiepapa+於+13-04-23+發表點

原帖由 elbar 於 13-05-17 發表
能否點評英澳神級名校?
我老婆話澳洲間間差吾多,無乜好評喔感覺澳洲學校相對平均。英美學校就好吾同,參次更多。




作者: luingan    時間: 13-10-24 11:11     標題: 回覆:Obiepapa 的帖子

係吖,例如入神級名校但讀唔係咁強嘅科目,質素好唔同,例如入哥大engineering, barnard, 同入arts & science 差好遠,另外NYU 最好係business school, 其他科就易入好多




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 13-10-24 18:57     標題: 引用:係吖,例如入神級名校但讀唔係咁強嘅科目,

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係吖,例如入神級名校但讀唔係咁強嘅科目,質素好唔同,例如入哥大engineering, barnard, 同入arts & scien ...
哥大金融工程都吾差。傳統工程好一般。




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I can' agree with you more. Rice is definitely a top top top college in the USA.
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Thanks for your sharing.
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作者: annie40    時間: 14-1-13 13:02

Thank you for all information.  Very useful!
作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-1-15 14:31     標題: 回覆:點評美加神級名校

仲有間叫Rockefeller University. 它醫科好好。聽的學生講,他們的醫學Nobel price仲多過普林斯頓物理系。有時間大家證實下。要知道愛恩斯坦就敎普大,物理系超強。




作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-1-16 10:55

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美國的醫科系讀完大學先報, 最主要睇interview, MCAT, GPA等。。。。undergrad讀邊無乜大關係。

作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-1-16 10:58

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Rice is a good school, but I wouldn't say that it is comparable to Harvard/Stanford....It is comparable to Cornell, Columbia, etc. (I am from Houston, so I am extremely familiar with the school....I got in many years ago on full scholarship, but chose not to attend).
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作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-1-17 11:49

simonlawht 發表於 14-1-16 15:20
這間學校當然不能跟哈佛/史丹福比, 不過RICE 在全國排名18已經很好啦, 我兩個姪女在HOUSTON讀書, 如果佢二 ...
I think it depends...some programs at UT Austin may be better than Rice actually.  Rice is not that difficult to get in if you are studying high school in Houston.  Both my uncle and my sister in law graduated from Rice.

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點評美加神級名校
A best friend of mine, who is a graduate of Princeton and Harvard, has been an Admission reader for one of the lvy league  school. He said many many students are with sound background with perfect scores, but they just can't take them as competition is super keen. He said he dont know how he can get in at his day.
Here is an interesting piece to share. By someone

http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/its_more_than_a_job




作者: HKTHK    時間: 14-1-19 01:27

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More and more difficult to get admitted to good schools seem to be the trend.  With more and more Chinese students applying, can't see how this won't get worse for the foreseeable future.
作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-1-20 10:22

simonlawht 發表於 14-1-18 07:20
Two of my nieces want to become physicians, so I want them to apply for the Rice/Baylor Medical Sch ...

My brother went to the Baylor College of Medicine MD/PHD program.  Personally, I do not like med school early admissions program as I find it very limiting.  Many people change their majors during colleges.  Why limit yourself?  If you get into a good school, maintain your GPA and study for your MCAT, you can get into good med school.  My ex- went to the USC med school early admission program.  I entered college as pre-med but left with a completely different degree.  Academically I know i can do fine for med school, but I don't think i can deal with the stress of being a MD.  I also didn't like the idea that I wouldn't graduate from med school until I am 26, and still having to enter into residency.

Rice U. is similar to all other universities / colleges...Apply in the fall with your standard tests and grades...i think has an interview as well.  nothing too difficult or out of ordinary.

Hosuton Premed Academy only take admissions in 9th grade i think.  I don't think you can enter as a hgih school senior.

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作者: webeheld    時間: 14-1-30 16:50

Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, JHU, Brown, WUSTL --> Underrated in HK?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 14-1-30 17:44     標題: 引用:Duke,+Dartmouth,+Northwestern,+JHU,+Brow

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Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, JHU, Brown, WUSTL --> Underrated in HK?
I don't think so.




作者: elbar    時間: 14-1-30 19:36

webeheld 發表於 14-1-30 16:50
Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, JHU, Brown, WUSTL --> Underrated in HK?
看看 全球大學畢業生 就業能力排名榜
作者: torunpoland    時間: 14-1-31 10:34     標題: 回覆:webeheld 的帖子

No, they are less known. But anyone who is paying constant attention to this wouldn't be surprised to see their top rankings, if u ask me. If my sons can get into one of them, I'd be extremely thankful... (dreaming)




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-2-2 01:13     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+Obiepapa+於+13-04-23+發表點

原帖由 lui 於 14-01-18 發表
A best friend of mine, who is a graduate of Princeton and Harvard, has been an Admission reader for  ...
應該話一直都好難入。去波士頓,一餐飯,五個人,會考可以四十六條A




作者: lui    時間: 14-2-2 08:06     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+lui+於+14-01-18+發表A+best+

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應該話一直都好難入。去波士頓,一餐飯,五個人,會考可以四十六條A



  ...
Yup and good scores is not enough for them to you!




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-2-2 09:35     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+Obiepapa+於+14-02-02+發表應

原帖由 lui 於 14-02-02 發表
Yup and good scores is not enough for them to you!
心態問題同一句話,吾同人聽有吾同的解釋大新年,無謂挑起不必要的矛盾




作者: lui    時間: 14-2-2 09:40     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+lui+於+14-02-02+發表Yup+and

原帖由 Obiepapa 於 14-02-02 發表
心態問題同一句話,吾同人聽有吾同的解釋大新年,無謂挑起不必要的矛盾



  ...
我自己就無咁多A,我都晤期望我d女有




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-2-2 16:14     標題: 引用:Quote:原帖由+Obiepapa+於+14-02-02+發表心

原帖由 lui 於 14-02-02 發表
我自己就無咁多A,我都晤期望我d女有
My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."




作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-2-4 10:40

Obiepapa 發表於 14-2-2 01:13
應該話一直都好難入。去波士頓,一餐飯,五個人,會考可以四十六條A



  ...

我以前個間﹐如果香港直接入的話﹐最少8A9A/10A都唔少。識左他們後就覺得呢D會考狀元都係普通人一個﹐我仲嫁左俾個10A添﹗

作者: annie40    時間: 14-2-4 14:04

看了大家的诚意分享, 让我这个妈咪十分流口水, 哗! 原来如此多叻仔叻女, 实在是香港之福!!!!!

话说回头, 孩子们多本事也是人一个, 幸福开心就是好! 祝大家马年如意, 身体健康!
作者: webeheld    時間: 14-2-5 20:48

ivyscyip 發表於 14-2-4 10:40
我以前個間﹐如果香港直接入的話﹐最少8A﹐9A/10A都唔少。識左他們後就覺得呢D會考狀元都係普通人一個﹐我 ...

是春藤嗎?

作者: ivyscyip    時間: 14-2-6 10:07

webeheld 發表於 14-2-5 20:48
是春藤嗎?

nope...春藤其實都唔係間間好。。。。很久以前﹐我都入左幾間春藤﹐不過入唔到最想的那間﹐去了那間旁邊的讀。

作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-2-19 23:06     標題: 引用:Quote:Obiepapa+發表於+14-2-2+01:13+應該

原帖由 ivyscyip 於 14-02-04 發表
我以前個間﹐如果香港直接入的話﹐最少8A﹐9A/10A都唔少。識左他們後就覺得呢D會考狀元都係普通人一個﹐我 ...
他幾年會考呀,可能系熟人播,哈哈




作者: song    時間: 14-4-24 10:39

I am successfully enrolled into the summer program offered by Stanford. May I know is it worthy to study?

http://www.stanford.edu/group/efs/688v.html
Thanks!!
作者: jani_delta    時間: 14-4-24 14:34

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作者: 武航    時間: 14-4-25 09:36

本帖最後由 武航 於 14-4-25 09:37 編輯

http://m.discuss.com.hk/index.ph ... 9715&extra=page%3D1
幾年前看過隔離臺某前軰的文章,挺風趣的
作者: Shootastar    時間: 14-4-25 10:53

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Thanks for sharing.
作者: webeheld    時間: 14-4-25 21:52

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I got into both of the 2 I applied to out of the 6 I listed :)
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原帖由 song 於 14-04-24 發表
I am successfully enrolled into the summer program offered by Stanford. May I know is it worthy to s ...
好似ESL的物體。如果想入神校,不如你先考英文托福過六百,SAT過千五仲有用播。




作者: Obiepapa    時間: 14-9-6 00:59     標題: 引用:偶然看見,特種十大神級名校  1.哥倫比亞

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偶然看見,特種十大神級名校

  1.哥倫比亞聯邦大學Columbia Federal State University





作者: Y2kqk    時間: 14-9-6 08:53

我想問女今年考DSE , 她說想到US 升大學. 她對phy, chem有興趣,

特別chem 成績也是比較好 ( top 10), 會在 10 月考sat, 因一直她也沒有提出

想到US,( 故我沒有做功踝), 那間大學會適合, 若chemical eng , civil eng , 藥剤

那間比較好, thanks







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