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作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-11 01:02 標題: CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS BoxHill讀K1, 因為太細，所以報了st Cath repeat K1，點知CCKG收了k2，小孩很聰明，但害怕升上小學後，比超大仔大㚢細一歲有多，怕他會無自信。過來人可給些意見嗎？謝謝。
作者: ME1227 時間: 13-4-11 01:15
CCKG k2
作者: IPSSJ 時間: 13-4-11 01:32 標題: 引用：弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS+Bo
原帖由 73662710 於 13-04-11 發表
弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS BoxHill讀K1, 因為太細，所以報了st Cath repeat K1，點知CCKG收了 ...
作者: cmir 時間: 13-4-11 09:28
CCKG of course. If he is accepted by CCKG, that's mean he has the ability. 
作者: yocoffee 時間: 13-4-11 09:35 標題: 引用：弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS+Bo
原帖由 73662710 於 13-04-11 發表
弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS BoxHill讀K1, 因為太細，所以報了st Cath repeat K1，點知CCKG收了 ...
作者: rcool 時間: 13-4-11 09:44
一定cckg no need to think
作者: kerkermui 時間: 13-4-11 10:08
cckg收得，都唔駛擔心"自信"問題啦！
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-11 11:04
擔心拔苗助長，考小學面試時會得不償失。無論身高和能力都交大B差，長遠下去會破壞自信心。家人會這星期決定，盡快放位，傾向repeatK1.
謝謝。
作者: 小冬姑 時間: 13-4-11 11:22
CCKG for sure, if you targeted brand names primary.
作者: lalawowo 時間: 13-4-11 11:43 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
點解對佢咁無信心呢？cckg收得佢，证明佢有能力，potential.学校都唔怕影响校譽，家長就對佢多啲信心吧。每年st. Cat都有好多人考cckg, 放棄好可惜。細仔唔一定比大仔差，不要埋沒天份呀！
作者: mobaba 時間: 13-4-11 12:21
我傾向ST CAT repeat K1. CCKG係好學校但無直屬小學, 比起ST CAT 對升小無絕對優勢, 除左DGJS, 但佢係男仔所以無關係. 佢去到CCKG要面對身形和心智發展大佢一年的仔同女, 一個唔覺意打沉佢自信心就唔好啦. 同埋到佢大個d佢開始識野就好難叫佢repeat K2/K3.
如果佢係好聰明的, 佢去到ST CAT 讀K1唔係更加容易顯得佢出色嗎? 咁對佢的自信咪仲好? 講到尾大家都係想小朋友升小有好的結果, 一個有自信的小朋友去interview成功機會一定大d. 同埋你唔可以排除有d小學係對細仔有bias. 如果做細仔有2-3個offer, 做大仔好可能會有5-6個offer.
如果佢真係叻過同年小朋友好多, 咪升到心儀小學後升考慮俾佢跳班囉, 唔急在一時呃. 我個仔都係年尾bb, 佢做大仔考PN間間都收, 我肯定如果我要佢做細仔考K1佢會少好多offer.
作者: poloking 時間: 13-4-11 12:29 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
點解12月就一定要做細囝喎，呢個case CCKG for sure
作者: kerkermui 時間: 13-4-11 12:59
poloking 發表於 13-4-11 12:29 
點解12月就一定要做細囝喎，呢個case CCKG for sure
係呀！如果小朋友搞得掂，當然去試試，遲一年就入唔返cckg！
作者: marcuscyrus 時間: 13-4-11 13:11 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
Cckg for sure. It's always easier to switching from cckg to other kinders if u face hardship than to getting in I think. Cckg already informed the kid was born in dec and still willing to take him, at least should give him a try
作者: Ononma 時間: 13-4-11 13:13
幾間都係好學校，不如掉返轉來唸，讀完Boxhill K1 再 repeat SC K1，怕吾怕個小朋友 悶親。
作者: Isaacmommy 時間: 13-4-11 13:53
Will choose CCKG for sure.
Small boys are in general not as mature or as smart as big boys, but this rule does not apply to all.
作者: wankapo 時間: 13-4-11 14:42 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
cckg
作者: dingu 時間: 13-4-11 15:38
If your son is smart, if you force him to repeat, he will lose interest in studying, and use his talent to behave as naughty kid.
CCKG for sure.
作者: 濼晴 時間: 13-4-11 15:43 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
sure cckg
作者: Aaby 時間: 13-4-11 16:13
cckg
作者: Tami 時間: 13-4-11 17:59
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I won't choose to repeat if he has such ability. check PM
作者: lui 時間: 13-4-11 19:10 標題: 引用：擔心拔苗助長，考小學面試時會得不償失。無
原帖由 73662710 於 13-04-11 發表
擔心拔苗助長，考小學面試時會得不償失。無論身高和能力都交大B差，長遠下去會破壞自信心。家人會這星期決 ...
作者: dingu 時間: 13-4-11 19:49 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
Cckg is an elite school. Once in cckg , your other children and his future children will all have higher chance to get in.
You sure he would agree with your decision after he grows up?
作者: ABDADDY 時間: 13-4-11 21:16 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
cckg for sure. if the kid has potential, why waste time to repeat to learn something he may have already known. self esteem can be built up by taking up challenges.
作者: picture 時間: 13-4-11 21:19 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
CCKG la
cheaper and smaller school and better environment
作者: MYPPBB 時間: 13-4-11 21:29 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
cckg for sure. there are small boys around me who born in dec but able to get several offers while some other big boys who born in jan got only one or nil offer this year.
as far as i know, cckg boys hv probably the highest successful rate in applying dbs in recent yrs.
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-11 22:33
The question is if a boy cannot be admitted by DBS, his competiveness is not obvious when applying other dss/private school, moreover, he may even be at the lower hand being a small boy. The teaching at CCKG is not particularly outstanding when compared with st cat n kv esp Chinese. Last year DBSps admitted more than 80% boys from cckg, n only 60% this year, what next? Those who faile DBSps need to compete with elite boys from other school and small baby is at a very disadvantageous position. That is our worry.
作者: rcool 時間: 13-4-11 23:00 標題: 引用：cckg+for+sure.++there+are+small+boys+aro
原帖由 MYPPBB 於 13-04-11 發表
cckg for sure. there are small boys around me who born in dec but able to get several offers while ...
作者: mobaba 時間: 13-4-11 23:32 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
Seems like we are the minority here but i totally agree with you. I'm sure CCKG is a great school but i would only go there if i am sure the kid is at least the top 50pct of the boys there, in order to have a better chance of getting into DBS. Whereas if he goes to St Cats for K1 he has a great chance of being the top 5 pct of the boys in his class. I'm sure DBS will prefer the cream of St Cats to the below average ones in CCKG. Nobody knows for sure and of course there are exceptions, but it's all about probability and over the years big boys have advantages over small boys everywhere around the world, just read the book Outliers.
Also he's repeating K1 in a new school (also a very good one i should say) with new teachers and new methods of teaching, how bored can he be? If you think it's not challenging enough then by all means take other interest classes that would provide the challenge. Kids (and adults) want to work less and play more, i really don't think they will be complaining about how easy the homework is.
Sorry for being long winded but i just want to give you the reasons to convince you that you are doing the sensible thing, among all others "cckg for sure" opinions. Good luck!
作者: JoyceNgYY 時間: 13-4-12 01:34 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
如果樓主咁擔心小朋友自信心問題，咁想問樓主小朋友在Boxhill成績好嗎？如果已經好好，咁又點解要幫佢轉校？即使在SC重讀K1，SC咁多人讀，d父母又對小朋友有期望，希望佢哋入到好既直資私小，自然就會谷d小朋友，課餘學8樣10樣野時有聽聞，可想而知競爭有多大，即使你係大B都未必有著數，因為SC根本唔收細B，你係12月囝，大過你小朋友既同埋細少少既囡仔都可能佔咗一成，所以想提醒樓主你咁concern自信心問題，SC都未必係你所想。
作者: mobaba 時間: 13-4-12 10:12
做超細仔的另一考慮就係身形問題. 去到男校讀小一如果佢係最矮好容易會俾d多口仔叫佢做矮仔, 又或者會俾人"烚". 話就話讀得到書唔怕人笑, 但我諗如可避免無人會想個小朋友俾人笑/烚掛? 所以如果樓主個弟弟本身唔係高大的人就要認真考慮呢一點.
作者: matsushima 時間: 13-4-12 10:24
CCKG
作者: gisoleung 時間: 13-4-12 10:24 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
Cckg
作者: evacalbee 時間: 13-4-12 11:35
73662710 發表於 13-4-11 01:02
弟弟的兒子在2009年12月出世的細仔在MOS BoxHill讀K1, 因為太細，所以報了st Cath repeat K1，點知CCKG收了 ...
你弟弟道聽途說太多而諗多左, 個個都唔同, 細仔一定"無自信"咩!
最無自信反而係大人.
作者: AAATT 時間: 13-4-12 14:01
I'm Just thinking it in a simple way - If a kindergarten accepts K2, why wasting 1 year repeating K1? I thought some people repeat 1 year simply because they want to get into a much much better KG?
I wonder whether CCKG will allow you to repeat K3 if you find him not competitive with other big kids during P1 interview. I heard a mother repeat K3 SKH so that bigger chance for him to get into DBS.....
作者: meloeskie2 時間: 13-4-12 14:36
唔好只体小朋友既出生月份而斷定佢既能力，既然CCKG都覺得佢識合，點解唔比機會佢一試？ 機會錯過咗就冇架啦！ 好好把握！
作者: Keibu 時間: 13-4-12 14:42
咁WHAT IF 佢响SC唔係好叻呢? 咁係咪再REPEAT多年?
自信心唔係靠踩响其他人上面建立既.
如果社會所有人既能力係用probability計出嚟既話, 咁會簡單好多. 所有人鬥REPEAT咪得囉.
作者: mobaba 時間: 13-4-12 17:19
What if he's not very good at SC at K1? I think that means his chance of being very good at CCKG K2 is even lower. There are always exceptions obviously but you can't make a decision based on hoping your son to be the exceptions right?
大人當然要有自信但有自信唔代表會有offer. 我地的討論係最終希望呢個小朋友升小過程會有好的offer. 升小面試只得一次, 點解要佢同全香港大過佢的小朋友一齊爭學位? 點解要佢去承受部分小學對細仔的偏見呢?
去CCKG讀一年如果唔對路就去返SC讀K2......你之前個年reject完佢你想佢第二年收返係唔係有d難呢?
自信心當然唔係靠踩响其他人上面建立, 但佢去到SC K1最起碼唔會同一d手指肌肉比佢發展多一年的人同班, 佢唔需要响寫字方面要被逼追趕一d 响KV寫左一年中文字的同學. In fact 佢係12月BB佢根本都唔會係最大個個, 大家正正常常咁高咁大, 無人俾佢踩. 但佢去到CCKG K2就一定係最細個個. 大家成日都話要相信CCKG的interviewers的眼光, 但係佢地學校每年都有十幾個仔去唔到DBS, 由K2到DBS面試只有一年多時間, 如果個仔入唔到DBS個D interviewers 根本唔需要負責任, 因為無人講過話CCKG保送男拔.
我學得repeat呢樣野只可以細個(PN, K1)做同埋响轉另一間學校時做, 因為:
1) 3, 4歲小朋友去到新環境, 有新同學, 唔會覺得自己係"冧"班. 到佢K3 考左N咁多間小學你先同佢講話 "阿仔, 我地不如讀多年幼稚園好唔好?" 佢唔傷心就奇.
2) 一年的分別只會係4歲時前特別明顯 (1 year out of 4 is 25%), 5歲後基本上分別越來越少, repeat的作用不大, 反而有機會傷害佢自尊心.
我唔明白點解同一D同年的小朋友讀多一年K1係浪費時間. 大家趕住去邊呢? 早一年讀完大學? 2003年大學畢業生遇著沙士, 好多人都搵唔到工, 但2004畢業的就無呢個問題, 所以其實早未必一定好過遲. 人生漫漫長路, 又何必急於一時呢?
先旨聲明, 我對CCKG無偏見, 如果題目係 1)CCKG K2 vs SC K2 我會選CCKG; 2) SC K3 (細仔) vs CCKG K2 (大仔) 我會選CCKG; 但樓主呢個題目我就選SC K1.
作者: twllc 時間: 13-4-12 17:39 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
我都會揀cckg。
我小朋友同你弟弟小朋友同年同月，我小朋友一個班主任唔建議我咁快俾佢地repeat(雖然另外都有人話佢比同齡發展慢）。因為依家先k1，未有好多證據佢真係跟唔上，所以班主任建議我地睇定d，k1唔repeat仲有好多位可以repeat(如k2,k3,小一等）但如果咁快就用左呢個quota,以後就冇repeat位了。
當然，呢個班主任佢本身的小朋友都係細仔，其中12月細仔，依家讀緊p3,學校建議佢跳級添。
以上係我的想法，不喜勿插
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-12 18:15
多謝大家的意見，根本現在很多10／11月的小朋友都會做大仔，我們repeat K1,小朋友都只是同同齡的小朋友做同學，從來沒有想踩別人的意思。
另我們決定repeat K1了，漫漫長路，樣他輕鬆點吧！
祝各位心想事成，入到好學校。
作者: 藍藍媽 時間: 13-4-12 18:19 標題: 引用：多謝大家的意見，根本現在很多10／11月的小
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多謝大家的意見，根本現在很多10／11月的小朋友都會做大仔，我們repeat K1,小朋友都只是同同齡的小朋友做同 ...
作者: 藍藍媽 時間: 13-4-12 18:29 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+73662710+於+13-04-12+發表多
原帖由 藍藍媽 於 13-04-12 發表
其實有無讀cckg k1 的 option呢？
作者: pppwong 時間: 13-4-12 18:46 標題: 引用：擔心拔苗助長，考小學面試時會得不償失。無
原帖由 73662710 於 13-04-11 發表
擔心拔苗助長，考小學面試時會得不償失。無論身高和能力都交大B差，長遠下去會破壞自信心。家人會這星期決 ...
作者: mobaba 時間: 13-4-12 21:53 標題: 回覆：73662710 的帖子
I'm happy you made this decision. Maybe your brother can try writing to CCKG and ask if he can defer the offer to next year, stating his preference for him being the big boy.
If CCKG are willing to do that then it's like winning the mark six!!!! You don't even need to switch to SC to repeat K1! But i guess it's highly unlikely of course.
作者: dingu 時間: 13-4-12 22:43
CCKG makes it clear that it doesn't allow super big kids.
I think the school agrees with most people here that we shouldn't really ride on age difference to decide if a person is smart or not.
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-13 09:07
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Thank you very much!
作者: evacalbee 時間: 13-4-13 09:14 標題: 引用：多謝大家的意見，根本現在很多10／11月的小
原帖由 73662710 於 13-04-12 發表
多謝大家的意見，根本現在很多10／11月的小朋友都會做大仔，我們repeat K1,小朋友都只是同同齡的小朋友做同 ...
作者: JoyceNgYY 時間: 13-4-13 14:24 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
恕我直言，既然一開始都唔打算讀CCKG，咁何苦去考呢？第一，浪費雙方人力物力，又等本來有Offer的變咗waiting要等你放位先有得讀，第二，對你自己都冇著數，因為下年你再想讀恐怕你今年reject咗個offer佢哋下年唔會再收你。根據你所講的論點，無論有冇SC既offer，你都應該唔會考慮CCKG，咁你應該係報之前就考慮清楚啦！假如沒有SC你會考慮CCKG的話，咁你講的就前後矛盾了。
作者: 73662710 時間: 13-4-13 16:30
原本想如果cckg收可能会直上，结果还是退一步，小孩轻松一点。这是个艱難決定。我们並非缹事找事做。
作者: melonfans 時間: 13-4-13 17:13
73662710 發表於 13-4-13 16:30
原本想如果cckg收可能会直上，结果还是退一步，小孩轻松一点。这是个艱難決定。我们並非缹事找事做。 ...
cckg考砌圖, 已經考緊小朋友小肌肉同智力. 個interview 內容係經過設計. 政府個智力/大小肌肉測驗內容都考呢d!
其實收得嘅小朋友都係outstanding, 點解樓主會覺得你個小朋友力有不棣!
細b能力超越人大有人在, 只要多加培訓, 教導就可!
我個年代都吾會有人repeat kg, 近年真係聽好多為咗考名幼而repeat!
作者: jijincat 時間: 13-4-13 18:14
咁難得考入cckg, 要repeat都係cckg repeat啦！
作者: picture 時間: 13-4-14 09:03 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+73662710+於+13-04-11+發表擔
原帖由 lui 於 13-04-11 發表
You make the right choice! The best seller book " outliner" analyze that big b has been in advantage ...
And is it fair to assume that all kids grow at the same pace and someone a couple months older are definitely taller stronger smarter and faster than the so called small b?
Life is a long journey. Smarter people progressed faster and further. Take a look around. Some people rise to CEO or managing director before 35!
This illustrates that age is not a determinant factor of your success but ability.
作者: oooasis 時間: 13-4-14 22:04
當然係cckg，我覺得某一年份的小朋友就應該係某一年份讀書，除非特別理由，例如跟唔到，發展遲緩，咁先需要遲一年。
一間合格的幼稚園，課程設計一定是適合這一年紀的小朋友。何必認為細b會跟唔到呢？
而且，讀多一年，大過人地，做的好過人地就有自信？咁對其他小朋友豈不是又不公平？
既然計劃去考而後又考到，我覺得應該讀。
當然，放cckg的offer出來會珍貴過st.cat好多。
作者: lui 時間: 13-4-14 23:39 標題: 回覆：picture 的帖子
I need not to take a look around. I was a CFO of a listed company at the age of 32. I am a super small B. In my days, a jan bb like me can get a place a year ahead so during my school life, I was the smallest in class all the way from kindy to university. If there is another chance, I would not choose to be a small b. I was always behind of my peers and I can say I had a feel that I have no talent at all. This was all about the ability, confidence that came with me at the school life. The book outliers makes an analysis on the big b on why they are successful and the major reasons are their recognition and involvement by the teachers are different from small b ( as big b usually outperform small b, they are given more opportunity). It stated that these factors lead to an ultimate success in a particular aspect as the above two factors themselves are important for schoolers. Also, if you ask the education specialist, they can tell you the difference of small and big b up to the age of 10 at least. This can explain why most schools in Hong Kong do prefer big b. so for playing safe, why one still risk to take it as most of us know the game of p1?
作者: tabo.eddy 時間: 13-4-14 23:48 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
恕我直言，難得小朋友有能力，但家長試都唔俾佢試，讀都未讀就話怕面對失敗。仲要以為重讀做大仔一定會好d！咁樣安排條路真係會順利d嗎？個人覺得反而握殺了小朋友的能力，而這樣不願面對挑戰的心態亦會影響小朋友日後發展。
純粹個人意見，多多得罪。
作者: evacalbee 時間: 13-4-15 08:27
lui 發表於 13-4-14 23:39
I need not to take a look around. I was a CFO of a listed company at the age of 32. I am a super sma ...
多謝你的分享!
但都想知, 會唔會因為你係細B, 所以比人更努力去追, 致今天的成就呢?
會唔會, 開頭十年比別人辛苦, 往後收成?
因為我覺得, 望住別人去追, 有target, 思想行為上的進步一定會比那些『自以為大過人就叻D的大舊衰』多 
. 不過都因應個人性格係遇强越强, 定自認失敗.
唉, 大細呢個話題沒完沒了, 大家還是隨心去做吧
作者: lui 時間: 13-4-15 09:15 標題: 回覆：evacalbee 的帖子
在學時真的沒有那種衝競，因為自己也不知道是什麼原因，反正就是比人差，我是很後期成績有些突破，上了大學。現在不是有很大成就，只是比一些人好一點。這個是因為我對工作的承擔及熱情。或者當初不是細b,現在更有成就吧。我也只是用自己及其他人的分析帶出覌點，認同不認同也是家長的決定：）
作者: kerkermui 時間: 13-4-15 10:47
其實我從少身邊都有兩個超細b
一個5月，一個7月
當年由調景嶺搬出九龍，學制唔同，讀緊高班下學期，出到嚟插高班/小一上學期，好好彩有小一收，學校講明讀唔掂就留班，最後係以學能測試成績入讀神級中一(成個區得兩個位)
第二個，响鄉村小學讀書，都唔知點解會細咁多都得，只知年年考第一，當年以A-level 最佳成績入HKU
我都係信"大B"讀書會jetso d，我係度住預產期生咗兩個年頭仔
但係，咁細就話佢唔得？定係比佢試試先呢？
當然，每個人有自己嘅決定，在我...正反思將來如果有機會，應唔應該跳班...
作者: breadbb 時間: 13-4-15 11:32 標題: 引用：其實我從少身邊都有兩個超細b一個5月，一個
原帖由 kerkermui 於 13-04-15 發表
其實我從少身邊都有兩個超細b
一個5月，一個7月
當年由調景嶺搬出九龍，學制唔同，讀緊高班下學期，出到嚟 ...
作者: LWL1212 時間: 13-4-15 12:13 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+kerkermui+於+13-04-15+發表
原帖由 breadbb 於 13-04-15 發表
5月7月都算超細b?
作者: ffaye 時間: 13-4-15 12:33 標題: 引用：在學時真的沒有那種衝競，因為自己也不知道
原帖由 lui 於 13-04-15 發表
在學時真的沒有那種衝競，因為自己也不知道是什麼原因，反正就是比人差，我是很後期成績有些突破，上了大學 ...
其實小朋友發展各異，我個二月大b除左身高外我唔覺佢比其他細b有優勝既地方。所以我覺得如果能力ok,做細b未必係壞事。
作者: wankapo 時間: 13-4-15 14:20 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
我覺得細b喺幼稚園分別大，但上小學就無分別！
我自己係9月細b, 官小讀，小四時我考全級第7， 小六考全級第二，中學入brand 1學校，中一考第一，所以我覺得小學校無分別！
作者: picture 時間: 13-4-15 21:20
wankapo 發表於 13-4-15 14:20
我覺得細b喺幼稚園分別大，但上小學就無分別！
我自己係9月細b, 官小讀，小四時我考全級第7， 小六考全級 ...
however, lui is also right that perhaps the kid will grow up in an environment when he is not naturally and effortlessly better off then its peers. on the other hand, I think it is good training and up to the parents to make-up for the seemingly disadvantaged position.
i am end Sept small b myself, but neither me nor my classmate, a end-oct b felt unhappy about it because we were neither bottom of class nor top of class and we didn't deliberately attribute our grades to being disadvantaged as a small b.
afterall, no one will be successful without some hard work or sacrifice.
but one thing of concern is that as far as my understanding goes, each kid may only join the government primary allocation scheme once. So perhaps the parent need to plan ahead just in case participating as small b will be a problem.
作者: Mcmugs 時間: 13-4-15 23:14 標題: 回覆：CCKG K2 還是St Cat K1？
其實我地讀書年代都無大細B分。身邊唔小同學朋友都係年尾出世，成绩成就都比唔少大B好。
其實比左小朋友去考，但放棄呢個機會為乜呢?老師俾信心但似乎自己父母都無信心俾小朋友…
作者: aliceyoyotang 時間: 13-4-17 13:52
CCKG for sure!
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