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作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-24 09:58 標題: 蘇浙 v. victoria

蘇浙 (本地) & Victoria, 大家會點睇？

明白蘇浙的普通话一定較強，但不保證上K1, 要再interview, 壓力難免。

victoria的整體語文，尤其英文很好，課程亦多元化，學生普遍presentable, 有自信。

兩者各有優點，所以有點難以決定。大家有何意見？

謝共享！

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-24 10:56 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 v. victoria

你打算 aim local 定 international 小學？

作者: Edsie 時間: 13-3-24 11:19

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I was planning to send my son to both schools if he got both offers! but he only got victoria!!!
My plan was to send him to Victoria for AM class & 蘇浙 for PM class!!! but now he didn't get 蘇浙 offer...so no choice for us!!!

I think both English & Mandarin are very important...go to Victoria for English and 蘇浙 for Mandarin!!!

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-24 11:27

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I agree, but 蘇浙 doesn't guarantee for k1 seat, very risky!

作者: lui 時間: 13-3-24 11:34 標題: 引用：回復+bluigugub+的帖子 I+was+planning+to

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I was planning to send my son to both schools if he got both offers! but he ...

Rest is the important factor for brain development. Think twice before you are enrolling two KG at one time.

作者: Chujai 時間: 13-3-24 11:54 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Edsie+於+13-03-24+發表回復+

原帖由 lui 於 13-03-24 發表
Rest is the important factor for brain development. Think twice before you are enrolling two KG at o ...

Agree!

作者: kwokbobo 時間: 13-3-24 12:13

Edsie 發表於 13-3-24 11:19
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I was planning to send my son to both schools if he got both offers! but he ...

我同你想法一樣, 不過擔心午睡時間和功課量, 請問幾大開始唔洗午睡, 我知因人而異, 但多數幾大開始唔洗午睡呢?

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-24 12:17 標題: 回覆：kittyland06 的帖子

i plan to send him to local school. but 蘇浙小學 may not be my dream school at the moment .....

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-24 12:18 標題: 回覆：kwokbobo 的帖子

i think 2 yrs old is far too young to skip afternoon nap ....

作者: jessiechen 時間: 13-3-24 12:50 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Edsie+於+13-03-24+發表回復+

原帖由 lui 於 13-03-24 發表
Rest is the important factor for brain development. Think twice before you are enrolling two KG at o ...

極度同意，2歲人仔返2間學校

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-24 13:39 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 v. victoria

i am a bit worried that 蘇浙 is strict for 2 yrs old, and the promotion to K1. anyone knows that?

thsnks!

作者: lui 時間: 13-3-24 14:14 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+lui+於+13-03-24+發表Rest+is

原帖由 jessiechen 於 13-03-24 發表
極度同意，2歲人仔返2間學校

又一揠苗助長例子。真係冇需要咁早，這些小朋友以後唔會喜歡學習，又或有情緒病，何必呢？太多失敗的例子，但父母仍一相情願。考小一叻的學生唔洗咁，各位父母，請你多看育兒書籍，提高自身的心理質素，這對教育你的小孩有莫大脾益

作者: webpaupau 時間: 13-3-24 15:11 標題: 回覆：lui 的帖子

Can't agree more

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-24 17:29 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 v. victoria

我比較偏向 happy school, 所以 Victoria 會啱啲。

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-26 09:40

any more thoughts to share on the two schools? thanks~

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-26 10:03 標題: 回覆：bluigugub 的帖子

我同你一樣冇蘇浙 offer 所以唔洗揀，但係我打算比佢小學讀 local school 好似蘇浙條路好啲(不過都唔係直升小學)，不過我又鐘意 Victoria 對2歲幼童照顧得完善啲，始終多啲 resources 校舍都乾淨啲。不過 k1 我會再同佢報蘇浙，有 offer 先決定轉唔轉。

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-26 10:38

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Thanks for your comments.

I agree the Victoria environment / hygiene level is excellent, and its overall curriculum and teaching method is also very suitable for kids of young age, not to mention its outstanding language environments. These are the areas that I like Vic very much. However, it would seem that the Mandarin / Chinese level of KCS is very high, and it may also be stricter on discipline which may help when the kids later enter primary stage (whereas many think Vic tends to be more relaxed and students are given lots of freedom (which frankly is good for young kids, but not sure if they can get used to the "strictness" when they go to P1) but of course, the problem is KCS is that there is no guarantee for promotion to K1 ... my struggle mainly come from the above differences.

Actually the "back-up primary school" thing is not my major concern at this stage, cus I just want to find a right kinder for my boy for the coming 4 years ... KCS Primary school is not exactly my dream school at the moment, so I won't really take this factor into account much at this stage ....

grateful for any other thoughts ~~~ hope everyone can find the right school for their kid.

作者: chansiub 時間: 13-3-26 11:15

本帖最後由 chansiub 於 13-3-26 11:18 編輯

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Vic has a very interesting program called Parental Participation Scheme.  I am not sure if it is offered across all the Vic kindergartens.  This is a program that will give you a good opporutnity to sample what your child's school life is like as you (the only parent) will be participating in the class (the whole class time).  You will be asked to observe how the class is conducted and assit in the classroom (e.g. helping kids to do the class activities, serving snacks, and storytelling, etc.).  I did this program last week in my K1 son's class.

I have the same concern on discipline before.  It's really out of my expectation that the kids are really obedient, even the kids are free to organize their class time and free time.  Kids will be asked whether they want to do PTH class, Cantonese class or English class first.  Of course the teacher will decide if the kids haven't made up their mind.  If there are something wrong (e.g. not tidying up things, aruging, or anything improper), the teacher will tell the kids how they should do immediately with a strict but proper tone. Hence, I am not to worry about discipline now.  The kids know the order and they even know how to serve themselves during snack time (it's like buffet).

The teachers emphasize on kid's discipline rather than on academic in the parent teacher conference.  So Vic doesn't overlook discipline while offering freedom!

As to Chinese, I also think that Vic is weaker as they allocate some of the resources to English.  However, it's not difficult to beef up kid's Chinese by parents.  Vic provides a lot of Chiense story books (at least 3 books a week) for you to read to the kids.  I couple this with 基礎漢字500.  My K1 son can read simple books by himself.  Probably, when he is in K2 and can manage writing skill, I will teach him how to write Chinese words.  I have been doing 基礎漢字500 since he was 2 years old and have just finished it.  For writing, I'll use the same way (step by step). I think it's a effective way of teaching Chinese with Vic's resources on providing Chinese books.  I am a working mom and I just spend 30 min. on this everyday.

For English, I don't think you have to worry too much.  Excellent phonics class!  PTH is good too and my son speaks quite well even I don't speak to him.  I just let him watch PTH cartoon.

The biggest problem that I can forsee would be the cultural shock when Vic's kids going to local school.  Vic's approach is very creative.  They don't do drilling.  Kids are free to plan their own time and express their own feeling.  Aii, but a lot of local schools are deterring these.  How "devastating" this problem on a kid will depend very much on how your kid can cope with changes....

作者: Muimuichu123 時間: 13-3-26 17:27 標題: 回覆：chansiub 的帖子

Thank you for your detailed sharings !

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-27 10:15

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thanks so much for your kind sharing. they are so helpful! although i am now tied up with something, i just feel the urge of thanking you first for your detailed analysis before i come back later to write further.

thanks again!!

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-27 10:37 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 v. victoria

honestly don't you guys think mandarin is actually not difficult to learn? I wasn't from a mandarin speaking family nor a mandarin speaking school, I was in a Cantonese speaking primary school But I speak fluent (not native) mandarin everyday!

Moreover, I have a nephew graduated from kcs primary so he has an excellent pronunciation of mandarin But when we traveled to China he wasn't willing to speak, so having the ability but no confident is still useless?

To me, language is not all about pronunciation and grammar, language was meant to be for communication. I'm Sure if the kid is smart enough, he'll be able to communicate even in simple body language.

Just a little comment, 不喜勿插

作者: wonderland07 時間: 13-3-27 10:43 標題: 回覆：kittyland06 的帖子

Totally agree.
I never apply KCS. To me, Vic vs KCS = eng vs PTH. My husband learns mandarin at college and can speak fluently because of need at work. I learn mandarin since primary but cannot say a word now because I don't need to speak mandarin. Therefore, I strongly believe learning mandarin early is useless.

作者: chansiub 時間: 13-3-27 11:13 標題: 回覆：wonderland07 的帖子

I think it is always good to have kids to learn a language earlier. mmm....cannot say it is useless. Kids with early exposure to PTH may speak and write better.

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-27 11:28

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Just some thoughts ...

to me, mandarin is not only a form of "spoken language", rather, it is a form of "written Chinese" which is different from Cantonese. 我手寫我口 is something that Cantonese can't do. i think this is another good thing for having good mandarin foundation ... it may also lay a good foundation for learning Chinese.

Of course to me, both English and Chinese are equally important, but perhaps Chinese is even more difficult to master.

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-27 11:39 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 v. victoria

I agree Chinese language is important that's why I want to stay in HK longer for my kids to learn Chinese characters. Alot of the language specialists and 教育家 already suggest kids to learn only mother tongue before 5-6 years old, and my choice of kindergarten for them based on environment and teaching method which I wish they can freely develope their inner talent. I guess I'm a bit contradicting as well, seems like I want a Chinese environment international school for my kids education.

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-27 11:42 標題: 引用：回復+kittyland06+的帖子 Just+some+thoug

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Just some thoughts ...

seems like you already made up your mind! that's excellent!

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-27 11:46 標題: 引用：I+think+it+is+always+good+to+have+kids+t

原帖由 chansiub 於 13-03-27 發表
I think it is always good to have kids to learn a language earlier. mmm....cannot say it is useless ...

I'm sorry , the word 'useless ' is a bit too strong,.I wanted to say was personality is also as important as language development

作者: a328 時間: 13-3-27 11:50

I will choose KCS, as it is more easy and lot of choice to find english course outside. my niece studied K is KCS, she is really confident in mandarine. moreover I think it is important to let kid learn more chinese in K as once they go into Primary, the chinese part can be very difficult. These are the comment form those mom whose their kid are in P1 now, so dun neglect it, and kid always think chinese is boring. so we must keep them interested in it at early stage.

作者: chansiub 時間: 13-3-27 11:57 標題: 回覆：kittyland06 的帖子

I know where you are coming from. I kind of agree that it is not necessary to have such a heavy weighting on PTH.

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-27 12:14

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thanks for your comments. but the truth is that i still haven't made up my mind (and there seems to be quite a long way before i can). On the one hand and as said, i do appreciate the significance of Chinese, but on the other hand, i likewise recognize the importance of giving the kids an environment that they could freely explore and learn, and also a place where they can nurture their self-confidence. This is an area that Victoria is doing very good (on top of its excellent English language environment - and importantly, that's learning by exposing to the language, rather than "stuff-duck" style of learning).

So ... really tough choice ...

作者: ychon005 時間: 13-3-27 14:02 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+jessiechen+於+13-03-24+發表

原帖由 lui 於 13-03-24 發表
又一揠苗助長例子。真係冇需要咁早，這些小朋友以後唔會喜歡學習，又或有情緒病，何必呢？太多失敗的例子， ...

十分同意！要小朋友返兩間幼稚園，學多d野，咁點解d家長唔返多幾份工，搵多d$呀？

作者: chansiub 時間: 13-3-27 14:45

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Is it you have a son/daughter studying Vic before? If yes, you should know Vic better than anyone else. Especially the weakness of Vic..........

作者: kittyland06 時間: 13-3-27 15:06

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From my guessing, you will apply for another k1 school for your kid at the end of this year anyway (since kcs does not guarantee for k1 nor p1), and I believe your kid is so smart to be get both offers this year, she'll be able to get a even better k1 offer next year!

Nothing to worry about!

作者: jessiechen 時間: 13-3-27 15:16

我有朋友個仔今年讀緊KCS PN, 佢話去年12月所有學生都要面試, 考K1, 我啱啱whatsapp問佢, k1收番幾多成學生, 佢覆咗我, 我上嚟同大家報告

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-28 11:02

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Thanks so much! Will wait for your sharing then. This is definitely an important factor to consider.

Many thanks!!!

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-3-28 11:04

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duplicated post

作者: mr123 時間: 13-3-28 11:20 標題: 引用：蘇浙+(本地)++&+Victoria,++大家會點睇？+

原帖由 bluigugub 於 13-03-24 發表
蘇浙 (本地) & Victoria, 大家會點睇？

明白蘇浙的普通话一定較強，但不保證上K1, 要再interview, 壓 ...

victoria

作者: mummyJ 時間: 13-4-3 21:02 標題: 引用：我有朋友個仔今年讀緊KCS+PN,+佢話去年12月

原帖由 jessiechen 於 13-03-27 發表
我有朋友個仔今年讀緊KCS PN, 佢話去年12月所有學生都要面試, 考K1, 我啱啱whatsapp問佢, k1收番幾多成學生 ...

妳好。請問妳朋友䨱了妳味呀？

作者: bluigugub 時間: 13-4-8 11:50

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Hi Jessiechen,

Can I know if you have any info on the % of PN students going up to K1 at KCS ? Thanks for sharing!

Cheers!

作者: ltpp 時間: 13-6-5 00:23

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Hi chansiub, 請問你小朋友是那分校?

歡迎光臨教育王國 (/)